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Grealish every day of the week
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For which position?
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Wherever he can get on the ball in the opposition half.
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Like Rashford or Pogba put Grealish on the right and he’ll be half the player.
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Thats a lie,
Greenwood will probably gets more goals and assists than sancho. Most of our build up play goes through the left, so a specialist finisher on the right will have more of an impact.
Sancho is a much better option on the right than Grealish. Sancho is not some young prospect like some on this thread suggests. He is a bona fife top class player, and he will be an excellent addition to our squad. But we are better of focusing on buying a top class CB and a DM this summer.
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Sancho’s skillset is more suited to premier league than the other two. Kagawa and Mikhy were more team oriented players who heavily dependent on the team playing style and the players around them. Sancho is more individualistic, which generally translates well when changing teams and leagues.
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I think we have bigger priorities in centre back and defensive midfield. Areas we look very weak in. If we are to go for a forward a striker is more imperative also.
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Totally agree. Ideally we should be looking to bring in three top class players in the summer CB, DM and RW, but we all know Ed is not capable of doing it. I don’t think we ever bought three top players in one window. Getting two will be a miner miracle.
So we are better of focusing on a CB and a DM, which are more pressing concerns.
“What do we think of this?”
Clickbait trash.
Greenwood will probably gets more goals and assists than sancho.
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Based on what?
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Most of our build up play goes through the left, so a specialist finisher on the right will have more of an impact.
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The majority of our play goes through the left because that's where our best attackers are so the ball naturally gravitates toward that side. We've not made a conscientious decision to attack more from the left.
Most teams attack primarily from the left side now because most teams play with inverted wide players who prefer to come inside onto their stronger foot and there are far more right footed players than there are left.
If we were to sign Sancho for the right, more attacks would naturally develop down that side, giving our attack a bit more balance and variety.
Also, if you look at Greenwood's goals, most of them are from chances he creates for himself and quite a few of them aren't from the easiest of positions. I can't remember too many of his goals coming from him converting a chance from close range or at the back post, something Sancho probably has more of a knack for currently.
On the subject though of creating better chances from close range, this is something we aren't that good at compared to other teams and Sancho would help us with that.
We’ll still have AWB at RB. Some teams stopped marking him all together because he doesn’t offer anything on the ball. So even if we did sign sancho, he will be doubled up and marked out of the game.
Just as easy that?
Sancho's excellent in tight spaces and being the tricky sort of dribbler that he is he shouldn't have too many problems when it comes to teams putting more pressure on him, besides if teams do decide to start paying more attention to the right side of our attack, it'll only open up space elsewhere and that's only a good thing.
Having somebody like Sancho on the right gives us so many more attacking possibilities.
Sancho will improve our right side attack. As I said earlier, he is a bona fide top class player, but I don’t think he will significantly improve our attack. The main reason most of our build up goes through left is because both LW and Shaw offer attacking threat, so it’s difficult to double up on one player. Sancho won’t have that option on the right, so his impact on the game will be much reduced compared to the LW.
In anycase, I don’t think sancho will be a bad transfer. I think our priority should be CB and a DM. Adding top class players to those positions will significantly improve the team compared to buying sancho. RW should be the third highest priority. I haven’t seen anything t suggest that United is capable of signing 3 top class players in one window. So we are better off prioritizing CB and a DM.
As I said earlier, he is a bona fide top class player, but I don’t think he will significantly improve our attack.
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You don't think a bona fide top class player will significantly improve our attack? Seriously?
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The main reason most of our build up goes through left is because both LW and Shaw offer attacking threat, so it’s difficult to double up on one player.
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It's because our right side is currently non-existent but with Sancho that will change.
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Sancho won’t have that option on the right, so his impact on the game will be much reduced compared to the LW.
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How do you know it will be much reduced? You're just speculating. Sancho doesn't just stay out wide anyway, he'll come inside, find space where it's available and combine with the midfield and attack. He'll link play better than any of our other wide players which is another advantage of having him.
I think because he doesn't play in the PL and hasn't been wonderful in his limited opportunities for the national team, people are greatly underestimating how good Sancho is. He's a top player, with great movement, skill, link up play, passing and finishing. He would greatly improve us. And he's a far better wide player than Greenwood, who is viewed as a long term centre forward for a reason.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 9 hours, 16 minutes ago
As I said earlier, he is a bona fide top class player, but I don’t think he will significantly improve our attack.
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You don't think a bona fide top class player will significantly improve our attack? Seriously?
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The main reason most of our build up goes through left is because both LW and Shaw offer attacking threat, so it’s difficult to double up on one player.
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It's because our right side is currently non-existent but with Sancho that will change.
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Sancho won’t have that option on the right, so his impact on the game will be much reduced compared to the LW.
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How do you know it will be much reduced? You're just speculating. Sancho doesn't just stay out wide anyway, he'll come inside, find space where it's available and combine with the midfield and attack. He'll link play better than any of our other wide players which is another advantage of having him.
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You are also speculating. Have you seen Dortmund play? Their FBs make off the ball runs to create space, and their midfielders attack the box. At United he will have AWB and Mcfred. You are expecting him to single handedly have the same impact and SIGNIFICANTLY improve our attack without any of the support he had at Dortmund.
As I said earlier, he is a brilliant player, but RW should be our third highest priority. Most of our CBS are crap and CMs are mediocre. Buying top class players for these positions will SIGNIFICANTLY improve the team. You keep on ignoring that point.
I think AWB has improved the attacking side of his game over this season, and if Sancho frightens defenders more than Greenwood, it creates pockets of space and opportunity that can make AWB more productive.
On the wider point about priorities, I think we need to be partly guided by what deals are possible this summer (and what opportunities will pass us by if we don't act). If we significantly strengthen in any of the key positions, that will have knock on effects that strengthen other parts of the team. I'm just about of the opinion that a world class DM might be the most transformative addition, but if there isn't a world class DM available to us, maybe it's not the place to spend money. Or if we can upgrade that position cheaply, why wouldn't we also bring in Sancho?
I watch a lot of Dortmund and I'm fairly confident that I've seen them play more than you have since Sancho's been there. I've been watching them with interest since the mid to late noughties and I try to watch as many of their games as I can.
Sancho will benefit from us having a more dangerous attack than Dortmund, Haaland aside. Bruno and Rashford are better players than any of Dortmund's equivalent and as such, they'll help with creating more space for Sancho, just as he'll do for them.
In no way shape or form have I ignored the fact we need to upgrade in other positions. If you're even vaguely familiar with my posting history you'll know our midfield is a huge bugbear of mine, it has been for many years along with the right side of our attack.
Signing Sancho though won't have any bearing on what midfield or defensive signings we make anyway, unless you're wanting us to spend obscene money on somebody like Rice.
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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
If we neglect the defensive mid and cb positions in favour of sancho we won’t finish top. What happens also do Greenwood when sancho comes? And why spend 40m on Amad if he will barely start. Seems terrible planning to me
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It would be an odd move, especially if funds are tight.
Maybe it’s just paper talk again.
Signing Sancho will absolutely have a bearing on midfield or defensive signings we make. Have you seen how the club operates? Do you think we are capable of making three decent signing for three different positions this summer? Have we ever made three decent signings in one window?
If sancho is our priority this summer, we will chase sancho all summer and end up with panic buying for other positions, or could end up with nothing. This is our modus operandi these days. Then we will go into next season with same weaknesses in the squad, just like we did for last how many years?
And our DM options shouldn’t be Declan Rice or noone. We have loads of scouts all over the world, if the best option they can come up with is Declan freaking Rice, then they should all find different jobs.
I think AWB has improved the attacking side of his game over this season, and if Sancho frightens defenders more than Greenwood, it creates pockets of space and opportunity that can make AWB more productive.
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AWB already finds lots of pockets of space. Some teams seem to ignore him even if he is in a dangerous area, and usually he does feck all with it.
I think he doesn’t have the mentality to be at a top club. He doesn’t have the confidence to put a first time cross in, or get to the byline when there is space. I don’t think this can be coached.
comment by The Luke Show (U8522)
posted 1 minute ago
I think AWB has improved the attacking side of his game over this season, and if Sancho frightens defenders more than Greenwood, it creates pockets of space and opportunity that can make AWB more productive.
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AWB already finds lots of pockets of space. Some teams seem to ignore him even if he is in a dangerous area, and usually he does feck all with it.
I think he doesn’t have the mentality to be at a top club. He doesn’t have the confidence to put a first time cross in, or get to the byline when there is space. I don’t think this can be coached.
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tbf, this was Luke Shaw a couple of years ago
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posted on 24/5/21
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 4 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 17 seconds ago
Grealish every day of the week
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For which position?
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Wherever he can get on the ball in the opposition half.
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Like Rashford or Pogba put Grealish on the right and he’ll be half the player.
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Thats a lie,
posted on 24/5/21
Greenwood will probably gets more goals and assists than sancho. Most of our build up play goes through the left, so a specialist finisher on the right will have more of an impact.
posted on 24/5/21
Sancho is a much better option on the right than Grealish. Sancho is not some young prospect like some on this thread suggests. He is a bona fife top class player, and he will be an excellent addition to our squad. But we are better of focusing on buying a top class CB and a DM this summer.
posted on 24/5/21
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Sancho’s skillset is more suited to premier league than the other two. Kagawa and Mikhy were more team oriented players who heavily dependent on the team playing style and the players around them. Sancho is more individualistic, which generally translates well when changing teams and leagues.
posted on 24/5/21
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posted on 24/5/21
I think we have bigger priorities in centre back and defensive midfield. Areas we look very weak in. If we are to go for a forward a striker is more imperative also.
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Totally agree. Ideally we should be looking to bring in three top class players in the summer CB, DM and RW, but we all know Ed is not capable of doing it. I don’t think we ever bought three top players in one window. Getting two will be a miner miracle.
So we are better of focusing on a CB and a DM, which are more pressing concerns.
posted on 24/5/21
“What do we think of this?”
Clickbait trash.
posted on 25/5/21
Agreed Rosso.
posted on 25/5/21
Greenwood will probably gets more goals and assists than sancho.
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Based on what?
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Most of our build up play goes through the left, so a specialist finisher on the right will have more of an impact.
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The majority of our play goes through the left because that's where our best attackers are so the ball naturally gravitates toward that side. We've not made a conscientious decision to attack more from the left.
Most teams attack primarily from the left side now because most teams play with inverted wide players who prefer to come inside onto their stronger foot and there are far more right footed players than there are left.
If we were to sign Sancho for the right, more attacks would naturally develop down that side, giving our attack a bit more balance and variety.
Also, if you look at Greenwood's goals, most of them are from chances he creates for himself and quite a few of them aren't from the easiest of positions. I can't remember too many of his goals coming from him converting a chance from close range or at the back post, something Sancho probably has more of a knack for currently.
On the subject though of creating better chances from close range, this is something we aren't that good at compared to other teams and Sancho would help us with that.
posted on 25/5/21
We’ll still have AWB at RB. Some teams stopped marking him all together because he doesn’t offer anything on the ball. So even if we did sign sancho, he will be doubled up and marked out of the game.
posted on 25/5/21
Just as easy that?
Sancho's excellent in tight spaces and being the tricky sort of dribbler that he is he shouldn't have too many problems when it comes to teams putting more pressure on him, besides if teams do decide to start paying more attention to the right side of our attack, it'll only open up space elsewhere and that's only a good thing.
Having somebody like Sancho on the right gives us so many more attacking possibilities.
posted on 25/5/21
*Just as easy as that?
posted on 25/5/21
Sancho will improve our right side attack. As I said earlier, he is a bona fide top class player, but I don’t think he will significantly improve our attack. The main reason most of our build up goes through left is because both LW and Shaw offer attacking threat, so it’s difficult to double up on one player. Sancho won’t have that option on the right, so his impact on the game will be much reduced compared to the LW.
In anycase, I don’t think sancho will be a bad transfer. I think our priority should be CB and a DM. Adding top class players to those positions will significantly improve the team compared to buying sancho. RW should be the third highest priority. I haven’t seen anything t suggest that United is capable of signing 3 top class players in one window. So we are better off prioritizing CB and a DM.
posted on 25/5/21
As I said earlier, he is a bona fide top class player, but I don’t think he will significantly improve our attack.
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You don't think a bona fide top class player will significantly improve our attack? Seriously?
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The main reason most of our build up goes through left is because both LW and Shaw offer attacking threat, so it’s difficult to double up on one player.
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It's because our right side is currently non-existent but with Sancho that will change.
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Sancho won’t have that option on the right, so his impact on the game will be much reduced compared to the LW.
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How do you know it will be much reduced? You're just speculating. Sancho doesn't just stay out wide anyway, he'll come inside, find space where it's available and combine with the midfield and attack. He'll link play better than any of our other wide players which is another advantage of having him.
posted on 25/5/21
I think because he doesn't play in the PL and hasn't been wonderful in his limited opportunities for the national team, people are greatly underestimating how good Sancho is. He's a top player, with great movement, skill, link up play, passing and finishing. He would greatly improve us. And he's a far better wide player than Greenwood, who is viewed as a long term centre forward for a reason.
posted on 25/5/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 9 hours, 16 minutes ago
As I said earlier, he is a bona fide top class player, but I don’t think he will significantly improve our attack.
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You don't think a bona fide top class player will significantly improve our attack? Seriously?
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The main reason most of our build up goes through left is because both LW and Shaw offer attacking threat, so it’s difficult to double up on one player.
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It's because our right side is currently non-existent but with Sancho that will change.
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Sancho won’t have that option on the right, so his impact on the game will be much reduced compared to the LW.
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How do you know it will be much reduced? You're just speculating. Sancho doesn't just stay out wide anyway, he'll come inside, find space where it's available and combine with the midfield and attack. He'll link play better than any of our other wide players which is another advantage of having him.
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You are also speculating. Have you seen Dortmund play? Their FBs make off the ball runs to create space, and their midfielders attack the box. At United he will have AWB and Mcfred. You are expecting him to single handedly have the same impact and SIGNIFICANTLY improve our attack without any of the support he had at Dortmund.
As I said earlier, he is a brilliant player, but RW should be our third highest priority. Most of our CBS are crap and CMs are mediocre. Buying top class players for these positions will SIGNIFICANTLY improve the team. You keep on ignoring that point.
posted on 25/5/21
I think AWB has improved the attacking side of his game over this season, and if Sancho frightens defenders more than Greenwood, it creates pockets of space and opportunity that can make AWB more productive.
On the wider point about priorities, I think we need to be partly guided by what deals are possible this summer (and what opportunities will pass us by if we don't act). If we significantly strengthen in any of the key positions, that will have knock on effects that strengthen other parts of the team. I'm just about of the opinion that a world class DM might be the most transformative addition, but if there isn't a world class DM available to us, maybe it's not the place to spend money. Or if we can upgrade that position cheaply, why wouldn't we also bring in Sancho?
posted on 25/5/21
I watch a lot of Dortmund and I'm fairly confident that I've seen them play more than you have since Sancho's been there. I've been watching them with interest since the mid to late noughties and I try to watch as many of their games as I can.
Sancho will benefit from us having a more dangerous attack than Dortmund, Haaland aside. Bruno and Rashford are better players than any of Dortmund's equivalent and as such, they'll help with creating more space for Sancho, just as he'll do for them.
In no way shape or form have I ignored the fact we need to upgrade in other positions. If you're even vaguely familiar with my posting history you'll know our midfield is a huge bugbear of mine, it has been for many years along with the right side of our attack.
Signing Sancho though won't have any bearing on what midfield or defensive signings we make anyway, unless you're wanting us to spend obscene money on somebody like Rice.
posted on 25/5/21
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posted on 25/5/21
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
If we neglect the defensive mid and cb positions in favour of sancho we won’t finish top. What happens also do Greenwood when sancho comes? And why spend 40m on Amad if he will barely start. Seems terrible planning to me
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It would be an odd move, especially if funds are tight.
Maybe it’s just paper talk again.
posted on 25/5/21
Signing Sancho will absolutely have a bearing on midfield or defensive signings we make. Have you seen how the club operates? Do you think we are capable of making three decent signing for three different positions this summer? Have we ever made three decent signings in one window?
If sancho is our priority this summer, we will chase sancho all summer and end up with panic buying for other positions, or could end up with nothing. This is our modus operandi these days. Then we will go into next season with same weaknesses in the squad, just like we did for last how many years?
And our DM options shouldn’t be Declan Rice or noone. We have loads of scouts all over the world, if the best option they can come up with is Declan freaking Rice, then they should all find different jobs.
posted on 25/5/21
I think AWB has improved the attacking side of his game over this season, and if Sancho frightens defenders more than Greenwood, it creates pockets of space and opportunity that can make AWB more productive.
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AWB already finds lots of pockets of space. Some teams seem to ignore him even if he is in a dangerous area, and usually he does feck all with it.
I think he doesn’t have the mentality to be at a top club. He doesn’t have the confidence to put a first time cross in, or get to the byline when there is space. I don’t think this can be coached.
posted on 25/5/21
comment by The Luke Show (U8522)
posted 1 minute ago
I think AWB has improved the attacking side of his game over this season, and if Sancho frightens defenders more than Greenwood, it creates pockets of space and opportunity that can make AWB more productive.
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AWB already finds lots of pockets of space. Some teams seem to ignore him even if he is in a dangerous area, and usually he does feck all with it.
I think he doesn’t have the mentality to be at a top club. He doesn’t have the confidence to put a first time cross in, or get to the byline when there is space. I don’t think this can be coached.
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tbf, this was Luke Shaw a couple of years ago
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