comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 1 minute ago
Like:

Neville
Carragher
Souness
McManaman
Keane
Linekar
Richards (don’t listen to his actual football opinion, though 😂)
Jamie Redknapp is alright

Dislike:

Ian Darke (i know he isn’t actually a pundit, but can’t stand him)
Danny Murphy
Lawro
Garth Crooks
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I like Darke! Great voice.

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I totally agree on his voice, but the words behind his silky veil are redundant

Chris “pelanty” waddle

comment by Jed Maxwell (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Chris “pelanty” waddle
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I’ve just been reminded on Twitter that Waddle predicted that United would win the league this season.

Good call, manusince, fully agreed on Pat Nevin.

Well done coming second this year. I don’t think you will get as high next season though.

The Reds are back!

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jed Maxwell (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Chris “pelanty” waddle
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I’ve just been reminded on Twitter that Waddle predicted that United would win the league this season.

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Ha

comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 1 minute ago
Good call, manusince, fully agreed on Pat Nevin.

Well done coming second this year. I don’t think you will get as high next season though.

The Reds are back!
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I'm no good at predictions, so I'll just keep my fingers crossed Jimmy.

comment by Jed Maxwell (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jed Maxwell (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Chris “pelanty” waddle
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I’ve just been reminded on Twitter that Waddle predicted that United would win the league this season.

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Ha
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Close

comment by Jed Maxwell (U1449)
posted 6 minutes ago
Chris “pelanty” waddle
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John Hartson was also 'pelanty' merchant.

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Jed Maxwell (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Chris “pelanty” waddle
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I’ve just been reminded on Twitter that Waddle predicted that United would win the league this season.

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Tbf, he was closer than most with his top 4 predictions

Waddle came top didn't he?

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback #GlazersOut (U17054)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 54 seconds ago
Television coverage just doesn’t doesn’t reflect the fact that the game is *far* more technical and intelligent than it was even 20 years ago.

Maybe the networks acknowledge this internally, and are happy catering to the casual fan. Maybe they’re just employing entertainers over analysts. Or maybe they don’t realise that Souness screaming about “desire”, “being first to the ball”, and “passion” isn’t really a very rich picture of what’s actually going on in elite football matches, and they’re just employing the wrong people.
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I’ve thought about this and wonder if they’re actually instructed to “keep it simple” - perhaps if they move too far away from accessible ideas like “passion”, “confidence” and “quality” and into more technical realms, there’s a certain kind of viewer that might be alienated.
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Whether it’s conscious or otherwise, that’s where it’s at.

You just don’t get technical and tactical analysis on TV. Not that I’ve seen anywhere, at least.

GNev and Carragher get about as close as you’ll probably see. Even then, they’re usually only really scraping the surface.
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Is it like this on TV in Europe?

Let's face it, the British public aren't the most insightful on football tactics.
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Portugal is more or less the same. Can’t speak for the rest of Europe.

France is similar, but a little better I think. I only watch if it's on free to air, and then rarely

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comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Jed Maxwell (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Chris “pelanty” waddle
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I’ve just been reminded on Twitter that Waddle predicted that United would win the league this season.

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Tbf, he was closer than most with his top 4 predictions
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You’re right - the reason he stood out was that he was the only one that picked United to win, I think.

Most called the eventual top four, if not the order.

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Micah is lighthearted. Keane the complete opposite. It’s genius to put those two together.

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If I were a TV exec I'd commission a sitcom where, due to an improbable twist of fate, Roy Keane and Micah Richards end up as room mates.

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by rosso - time to #takefootballback #GlazersOut (U17054)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 54 seconds ago
Television coverage just doesn’t doesn’t reflect the fact that the game is *far* more technical and intelligent than it was even 20 years ago.

Maybe the networks acknowledge this internally, and are happy catering to the casual fan. Maybe they’re just employing entertainers over analysts. Or maybe they don’t realise that Souness screaming about “desire”, “being first to the ball”, and “passion” isn’t really a very rich picture of what’s actually going on in elite football matches, and they’re just employing the wrong people.
—————

I’ve thought about this and wonder if they’re actually instructed to “keep it simple” - perhaps if they move too far away from accessible ideas like “passion”, “confidence” and “quality” and into more technical realms, there’s a certain kind of viewer that might be alienated.
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Whether it’s conscious or otherwise, that’s where it’s at.

You just don’t get technical and tactical analysis on TV. Not that I’ve seen anywhere, at least.

GNev and Carragher get about as close as you’ll probably see. Even then, they’re usually only really scraping the surface.
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Is it like this on TV in Europe?

Let's face it, the British public aren't the most insightful on football tactics.
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’ave it!

German TV commentary was slightly better than English when I was living there in the early 2000s. Russian commentary was significantly better. It helped that they employed journalists rather than ex-pros, i.e. people who were actually trained in analysing sport and describing it.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Micah is lighthearted. Keane the complete opposite. It’s genius to put those two together.

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If I were a TV exec I'd commission a sitcom where, due to an improbable twist of fate, Roy Keane and Micah Richards end up as room mates.
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Rising Damp vibes here. Part for Phil Jones here surely?

Miss Jones? Yes all bloody season!

Alex Scott...Danny Murphy and I do like Micah Richard's he adds some humour.

Jose is the best pundit I’ve seen on tv. There were panels with him, Neville, Carragher, sourness and Keane. Jose was head and shoulders above everyone else.

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 4 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 1 minute ago
Like:

Neville
Carragher
Souness
McManaman
Keane
Linekar
Richards (don’t listen to his actual football opinion, though 😂)
Jamie Redknapp is alright

Dislike:

Ian Darke (i know he isn’t actually a pundit, but can’t stand him)
Danny Murphy
Lawro
Garth Crooks
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I like Darke! Great voice.

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This

Alan Green was my favourite commentator. Couldn't name them but there are some good commentators around at the moment on BT Sport.

Can't stand Martin Tyler.

For pundits, Neville is the best for me but I do quite like McManaman...

I do enjoy Wright's school playground / local park enthusiasm for the game.

Rooney pretty much had the same approach to the game. But could you imagine Wazza as s pundit?

Guffaw.

comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 6 hours, 30 minutes ago
Alan Green was my favourite commentator. Couldn't name them but there are some good commentators around at the moment on BT Sport.

Can't stand Martin Tyler.

For pundits, Neville is the best for me but I do quite like McManaman...
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Couldn’t stand Green. Used to listen to the football at work and I’d be shouting at the radio for him to actually comment on the game instead prat waffling on. It’d be like “waffle waffle waffle waffle waffle waffle Ooh that was poor from Giggs, waffle waffle waffle waffle.........”

comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 3 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Becker, Liverpool's Number 9 (U3979)
posted 6 hours, 30 minutes ago
Alan Green was my favourite commentator. Couldn't name them but there are some good commentators around at the moment on BT Sport.

Can't stand Martin Tyler.

For pundits, Neville is the best for me but I do quite like McManaman...
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Couldn’t stand Green. Used to listen to the football at work and I’d be shouting at the radio for him to actually comment on the game instead prat waffling on. It’d be like “waffle waffle waffle waffle waffle waffle Ooh that was poor from Giggs, waffle waffle waffle waffle.........”
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Alan Green was the biggest LFC propaganda machine around.