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He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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It’s aimed at a number of things and Levy is a big part of it. Fonseca’s lack of quality is bloody obvious son, I don’t need to justify that. He’s a European journeyman who had about 20 different clubs. His only true success was in the weak Ukranian league where by the way, Sergei Rebrov is smashing it. You want Rebrov now as our manager ? It’s a joke mate, what ever way you try and swing it. The likes of Sandy etc moaning about other supporters accept mediocrity. Pretend they support the decisions, but in reality know deep down the club are an absolute mess. How can any Spurs fan be content with this ? From Conte to Levy’s 9th choice gimp that’s clearly bought in as a puppet. We will be 15th by Xmas and this c*** will be gone. Rinse and repeat. But, the Spurs fans on here that continuously defend Levy like some weird cult will keep doing the same. Levy appointed this DOF, so if he didn’t appoint the manager himself, he’s still directly involved. Wake the f** up!!!!
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You're issue is you see this as defending Levy. Till you wipe that red miat from you're eyes you'll continue to try and post offensively to try and sound passionate.
I dont buy it...you have no clue if this is 9th choice..you just spouting what media fed you.
Secondly...We all wanted Levy to step back..he appoints a Juventus DoF with 11 years experience of winning things..but this isn't good enough.
Thirdly..we finished 7th and in European conference league...which top.class player really wants to not be in champs league let alone manager.
Fourth: which top class manager wants to take over Spurs without Harry Kane
I.think you need a reality check to understand where Jose has left us. You need more than Conte in your life.
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
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He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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It’s aimed at a number of things and Levy is a big part of it. Fonseca’s lack of quality is bloody obvious son, I don’t need to justify that. He’s a European journeyman who had about 20 different clubs. His only true success was in the weak Ukranian league where by the way, Sergei Rebrov is smashing it. You want Rebrov now as our manager ? It’s a joke mate, what ever way you try and swing it. The likes of Sandy etc moaning about other supporters accept mediocrity. Pretend they support the decisions, but in reality know deep down the club are an absolute mess. How can any Spurs fan be content with this ? From Conte to Levy’s 9th choice gimp that’s clearly bought in as a puppet. We will be 15th by Xmas and this c*** will be gone. Rinse and repeat. But, the Spurs fans on here that continuously defend Levy like some weird cult will keep doing the same. Levy appointed this DOF, so if he didn’t appoint the manager himself, he’s still directly involved. Wake the f** up!!!!
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You're issue is you see this as defending Levy. Till you wipe that red miat from you're eyes you'll continue to try and post offensively to try and sound passionate.
I dont buy it...you have no clue if this is 9th choice..you just spouting what media fed you.
Secondly...We all wanted Levy to step back..he appoints a Juventus DoF with 11 years experience of winning things..but this isn't good enough.
Thirdly..we finished 7th and in European conference league...which top.class player really wants to not be in champs league let alone manager.
Fourth: which top class manager wants to take over Spurs without Harry Kane
I.think you need a reality check to understand where Jose has left us. You need more than Conte in your life.
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And I don’t buy your Bolloks either mate. You are no better a supporter than me just because you support this mess we are in. So, because you are content with Levy continuously making wrong decisions, I’m supposed to accept that ? I pay enough money into this club to be able to have a voice and express my anger. You talk about 7th place , Harry Kane moving etc etc, who’s fault is that ? It isn’t just down to Mourinho; it’s our chairman who has failed to provide the appropriate funds and players on the field to push the club forward. Now you want me to accept a European journey man manager that’s clearly our 6th or 7th choice? He was free all summer son. We could of got him anytime: it doesn’t take a genius to work out this is clearly desperation time and we have no other real options, so Levy just goes in a hat and picks a manager that has no real credibility whatsoever.
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 5 minutes ago
He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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Absolutely. According to the likes of Ace, his is the only opinion that counts. I don`t mind Ace, he is a bit self-opinionated, but in general posts some decent stuff. But he has a fault, that he doesn`t like to listen to other opinions.
If say Fonsecas does become the next Spurs manager, nobody knows how it may work out, including Ace and all the others that are crucifying the fella before he has even been appointed. To many posters are already judging him to be a probable failure. It`s like having a new workmate turn up, and on the first day, say I don`t think he will be any good. It is not nice. Everybody deserves a chance.
Now is not the time to judge somebody, give him a season at the very least, two really should be the minimum.
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 5 minutes ago
He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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It’s aimed at a number of things and Levy is a big part of it. Fonseca’s lack of quality is bloody obvious son, I don’t need to justify that. He’s a European journeyman who had about 20 different clubs. His only true success was in the weak Ukranian league where by the way, Sergei Rebrov is smashing it. You want Rebrov now as our manager ? It’s a joke mate, what ever way you try and swing it. The likes of Sandy etc moaning about other supporters accept mediocrity. Pretend they support the decisions, but in reality know deep down the club are an absolute mess. How can any Spurs fan be content with this ? From Conte to Levy’s 9th choice gimp that’s clearly bought in as a puppet. We will be 15th by Xmas and this c*** will be gone. Rinse and repeat. But, the Spurs fans on here that continuously defend Levy like some weird cult will keep doing the same. Levy appointed this DOF, so if he didn’t appoint the manager himself, he’s still directly involved. Wake the f** up!!!!
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You're issue is you see this as defending Levy. Till you wipe that red miat from you're eyes you'll continue to try and post offensively to try and sound passionate.
I dont buy it...you have no clue if this is 9th choice..you just spouting what media fed you.
Secondly...We all wanted Levy to step back..he appoints a Juventus DoF with 11 years experience of winning things..but this isn't good enough.
Thirdly..we finished 7th and in European conference league...which top.class player really wants to not be in champs league let alone manager.
Fourth: which top class manager wants to take over Spurs without Harry Kane
I.think you need a reality check to understand where Jose has left us. You need more than Conte in your life.
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And I don’t buy your Bolloks either mate. You are no better a supporter than me just because you support this mess we are in. So, because you are content with Levy continuously making wrong decisions, I’m supposed to accept that ? I pay enough money into this club to be able to have a voice and express my anger. You talk about 7th place , Harry Kane moving etc etc, who’s fault is that ? It isn’t just down to Mourinho; it’s our chairman who has failed to provide the appropriate funds and players on the field to push the club forward. Now you want me to accept a European journey man manager that’s clearly our 6th or 7th choice? He was free all summer son. We could of got him anytime: it doesn’t take a genius to work out this is clearly desperation time and we have no other real options, so Levy just goes in a hat and picks a manager that has no real credibility whatsoever.
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To be fair Don, you said the club was not going to get a penny of your money, so not sure why you areso concerned over who the new manager is, if you are not that interested in the club anymore, and have said your intentions are not to go to WHL anymore.
You need to chill out a bit mate. Meet me for a pint at WHL, and I will show you how to relax.
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
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He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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It’s aimed at a number of things and Levy is a big part of it. Fonseca’s lack of quality is bloody obvious son, I don’t need to justify that. He’s a European journeyman who had about 20 different clubs. His only true success was in the weak Ukranian league where by the way, Sergei Rebrov is smashing it. You want Rebrov now as our manager ? It’s a joke mate, what ever way you try and swing it. The likes of Sandy etc moaning about other supporters accept mediocrity. Pretend they support the decisions, but in reality know deep down the club are an absolute mess. How can any Spurs fan be content with this ? From Conte to Levy’s 9th choice gimp that’s clearly bought in as a puppet. We will be 15th by Xmas and this c*** will be gone. Rinse and repeat. But, the Spurs fans on here that continuously defend Levy like some weird cult will keep doing the same. Levy appointed this DOF, so if he didn’t appoint the manager himself, he’s still directly involved. Wake the f** up!!!!
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You're issue is you see this as defending Levy. Till you wipe that red miat from you're eyes you'll continue to try and post offensively to try and sound passionate.
I dont buy it...you have no clue if this is 9th choice..you just spouting what media fed you.
Secondly...We all wanted Levy to step back..he appoints a Juventus DoF with 11 years experience of winning things..but this isn't good enough.
Thirdly..we finished 7th and in European conference league...which top.class player really wants to not be in champs league let alone manager.
Fourth: which top class manager wants to take over Spurs without Harry Kane
I.think you need a reality check to understand where Jose has left us. You need more than Conte in your life.
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And I don’t buy your Bolloks either mate. You are no better a supporter than me just because you support this mess we are in. So, because you are content with Levy continuously making wrong decisions, I’m supposed to accept that ? I pay enough money into this club to be able to have a voice and express my anger. You talk about 7th place , Harry Kane moving etc etc, who’s fault is that ? It isn’t just down to Mourinho; it’s our chairman who has failed to provide the appropriate funds and players on the field to push the club forward. Now you want me to accept a European journey man manager that’s clearly our 6th or 7th choice? He was free all summer son. We could of got him anytime: it doesn’t take a genius to work out this is clearly desperation time and we have no other real options, so Levy just goes in a hat and picks a manager that has no real credibility whatsoever.
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To be fair Don, you said the club was not going to get a penny of your money, so not sure why you areso concerned over who the new manager is, if you are not that interested in the club anymore, and have said your intentions are not to go to WHL anymore.
You need to chill out a bit mate. Meet me for a pint at WHL, and I will show you how to relax.
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I am chilled mate in every day life. It’s Spurs that wind me the f** up. I just won’t bother next season. It breaks my heart, but I refuse to give these people the time of day now.
Having slept on it, I am still bemused. I read yday someone saying it feels like we are shopping at the petrol station on Xmas eve. Still rings true
I have said in the past whoever the next manager is we should be grateful to him because he accepts working under Levy but in this instance it feels like Fonseca could hit have hit the jackpot.
No way was he number 1, 2nd or even 3rd choice when the "list" was made for potential candidates. He is damaged goods. I really hope like Conte before him, this somehow falls through but if it doesn't then sod it, we ride or die with him. What a joke club?!! How can Levy accept this appointment after making that statement about DNA ect ect?
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He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
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It’s aimed at a number of things and Levy is a big part of it. Fonseca’s lack of quality is bloody obvious son, I don’t need to justify that. He’s a European journeyman who had about 20 different clubs. His only true success was in the weak Ukranian league where by the way, Sergei Rebrov is smashing it. You want Rebrov now as our manager ? It’s a joke mate, what ever way you try and swing it. The likes of Sandy etc moaning about other supporters accept mediocrity. Pretend they support the decisions, but in reality know deep down the club are an absolute mess. How can any Spurs fan be content with this ? From Conte to Levy’s 9th choice gimp that’s clearly bought in as a puppet. We will be 15th by Xmas and this c*** will be gone. Rinse and repeat. But, the Spurs fans on here that continuously defend Levy like some weird cult will keep doing the same. Levy appointed this DOF, so if he didn’t appoint the manager himself, he’s still directly involved. Wake the f** up!!!!
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You're issue is you see this as defending Levy. Till you wipe that red miat from you're eyes you'll continue to try and post offensively to try and sound passionate.
I dont buy it...you have no clue if this is 9th choice..you just spouting what media fed you.
Secondly...We all wanted Levy to step back..he appoints a Juventus DoF with 11 years experience of winning things..but this isn't good enough.
Thirdly..we finished 7th and in European conference league...which top.class player really wants to not be in champs league let alone manager.
Fourth: which top class manager wants to take over Spurs without Harry Kane
I.think you need a reality check to understand where Jose has left us. You need more than Conte in your life.
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And I don’t buy your Bolloks either mate. You are no better a supporter than me just because you support this mess we are in. So, because you are content with Levy continuously making wrong decisions, I’m supposed to accept that ? I pay enough money into this club to be able to have a voice and express my anger. You talk about 7th place , Harry Kane moving etc etc, who’s fault is that ? It isn’t just down to Mourinho; it’s our chairman who has failed to provide the appropriate funds and players on the field to push the club forward. Now you want me to accept a European journey man manager that’s clearly our 6th or 7th choice? He was free all summer son. We could of got him anytime: it doesn’t take a genius to work out this is clearly desperation time and we have no other real options, so Levy just goes in a hat and picks a manager that has no real credibility whatsoever.
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To be fair Don, you said the club was not going to get a penny of your money, so not sure why you areso concerned over who the new manager is, if you are not that interested in the club anymore, and have said your intentions are not to go to WHL anymore.
You need to chill out a bit mate. Meet me for a pint at WHL, and I will show you how to relax.
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I am chilled mate in every day life. It’s Spurs that wind me the f** up. I just won’t bother next season. It breaks my heart, but I refuse to give these people the time of day now.
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Fair enough Don, but the offer of a free pint on me at WHL is still on the table if you change your mind.
Asking random geezers from an internet forum to meet for a pint feels just wrong!
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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What, do you don’t agree re Levy and the board? You’re happy with their performance?
And - again - you have to be realistic. Park the ‘back him don’t back him’ thing to one side and look at it objectively. He is a journeyman manager, 11 clubs in 15 years, sacked from his higher profile jobs (Porto/Roma). It is not unreasonable for a fan to suggest that he lacks the quality we need.
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This is a better question..Levy has been carp at football decisions. This doesn't blind me from the fact I see progress with a DoF stepping in. The manager we appoint is the level we are at. So I'm not surprised this is who we might appoint. I even posted an article some weeks ago about Fonseca or Sarri.
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that a no then?
It's sad what it's come to but Jose appointment set us back. Our squad last season was very strong. We had a back up striker that was top scorer in his league. We signed a top left back, Ndombele and Lo Celso fit. Bergwijn with a season under his belt. BALE returned.
Not many felt Jose wasn't backed last season...even the media when we were top was excited.
So what went wrong? Did Enic take over management of football mid-season? Jose let us down and now we need to rebuild. It's going to be hard especially as our poor performance means our star striker wants to leave. End of an era for me.
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It's sad what it's come to but Jose appointment set us back. Our squad last season was very strong. We had a back up striker that was top scorer in his league. We signed a top left back, Ndombele and Lo Celso fit. Bergwijn with a season under his belt. BALE returned.
Not many felt Jose wasn't backed last season...even the media when we were top was excited.
So what went wrong? Did Enic take over management of football mid-season? Jose let us down and now we need to rebuild. It's going to be hard especially as our poor performance means our star striker wants to leave. End of an era for me.
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Any manager that was left with a squad including Sissoko, Aurier, Sanchez, Dier, Winks and Doherty, has not been backed properly.
the squad wasnt very strong at all, maybe upfront.
it was big in terms of numbers but its bloated by players who have been here too long or are just not the required quality to step in when needed.
most people got carried away by 7 new players coming in in the summer.
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If we manage to get in some decent players am sure he will do just fine. You would think Fonseca just landed from the moon and never seen a football they way some fans are going. And true, what had Poch won?potter.. yeah pretty football. I get it..fighting relegation. Am sure he could do a job to with better players.
Zidane before Real Madrid.? Am sure our fans would have kicked up a stink if we tried appointing him years ago.
So why not Fonseca!!
If we are expecting a stellar manager then they want players who can deliver trophies. Guess what, they either don’t want to come or faacked off somewhere else.
Fonseca got my backing all day. COYS!!
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It's sad what it's come to but Jose appointment set us back. Our squad last season was very strong. We had a back up striker that was top scorer in his league. We signed a top left back, Ndombele and Lo Celso fit. Bergwijn with a season under his belt. BALE returned.
Not many felt Jose wasn't backed last season...even the media when we were top was excited.
So what went wrong? Did Enic take over management of football mid-season? Jose let us down and now we need to rebuild. It's going to be hard especially as our poor performance means our star striker wants to leave. End of an era for me.
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Any manager that was left with a squad including Sissoko, Aurier, Sanchez, Dier, Winks and Doherty, has not been backed properly.
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They should all have been bench players and subs. Some here were happy with Doherty, the second most creative RWB in the prem.
Ok trying to see this from Levy's POV. There have been reports that he wants King and Mason involved in the coaching set up. This seems plausible so maybe Fonseca or the new man has to agree to these terms.
Whether both are any good is up for debate but it feels like Levy wants to help these guys develope. Fairplay but there are other lesser clubs were they can learn their trade too.
Yday I read a few snippets of Levy wanting Skipp and Sess to be involved in the squad/team too. Again fair enough but they have to prove they are good enough for the prem. Skipp played a blinder last season but the jury is still out whether he is prem ready. Same for Sess as well.
It feel like Levy wants to focus to be on young players which I am not against as they tend to be more hungry and fight for the cause so to speak more than your Sissoko's, Winks and Diers of this world but he has to bring in a few experience players to provide a good balance. I hope Paratici is able to weed the deadwood out and bring in ample replacements.
Again too many if and buts and knowing Spurs it only leads to more dissapointment in the long run.
Will wait to see what unfolds between now and the start of the season to see where we are and where we are possibly going before I start cutting my wrists lol
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If we manage to get in some decent players am sure he will do just fine. You would think Fonseca just landed from the moon and never seen a football they way some fans are going. And true, what had Poch won?potter.. yeah pretty football. I get it..fighting relegation. Am sure he could do a job to with better players.
Zidane before Real Madrid.? Am sure our fans would have kicked up a stink if we tried appointing him years ago.
So why not Fonseca!!
If we are expecting a stellar manager then they want players who can deliver trophies. Guess what, they either don’t want to come or faacked off somewhere else.
Fonseca got my backing all day. COYS!!
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This is something I would have felt 10 ten years ago but I have been there before and in the past has lead to dissapointment. Again gonna wait for official announcements before getting even getting remotely excited. COYS
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If we manage to get in some decent players am sure he will do just fine. You would think Fonseca just landed from the moon and never seen a football they way some fans are going. And true, what had Poch won?potter.. yeah pretty football. I get it..fighting relegation. Am sure he could do a job to with better players.
Zidane before Real Madrid.? Am sure our fans would have kicked up a stink if we tried appointing him years ago.
So why not Fonseca!!
If we are expecting a stellar manager then they want players who can deliver trophies. Guess what, they either don’t want to come or faacked off somewhere else.
Fonseca got my backing all day. COYS!!
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This....Jose left a shambles, underutilised the squad and played The wrong defensive combos...game after game. Brought on Sissoko when we had Bale, Bergwijn, Lo Celso, Vinicius, Alli...threw away 23 points from leading positions yet somehow....this is all owners faults.
Levy is an annoying git but last seasons performance was way below par and Jose was to blame. If we had finished in top 4. Kane wouldn't be leaving and we would be selling deadwood. And certain fans would be subdued. Such is life
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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What, do you don’t agree re Levy and the board? You’re happy with their performance?
And - again - you have to be realistic. Park the ‘back him don’t back him’ thing to one side and look at it objectively. He is a journeyman manager, 11 clubs in 15 years, sacked from his higher profile jobs (Porto/Roma). It is not unreasonable for a fan to suggest that he lacks the quality we need.
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This is a better question..Levy has been carp at football decisions. This doesn't blind me from the fact I see progress with a DoF stepping in. The manager we appoint is the level we are at. So I'm not surprised this is who we might appoint. I even posted an article some weeks ago about Fonseca or Sarri.
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Chelsea finished 10th and went and appointed Conte, Leicester were bottom half and got Rodgers. How we did last season is irrelevant, if you say “oh we had a bad season so we need to accept we’re crap and make a bang average appointment that suits our new status” then that is pathetic and shows no ambition to remedy the poor decisions that lead to that crap season in the first place. We have been a CL club for half this decade, we have elite facilities, the board claim they want us back in the CL and playing good football, we stumbled last term but stop sugar coating the fact that we could and should be aiming higher than Paulo Fonseca.
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This. Pointless even bothering to be honest, it’s a rinse and repeat merry go round. No other fans accept mediocrity other than Spurs fans.
I want to see which players we sign and if we strengthen at the back which was the major weakness. I'm giving this regime the summer window to get me optimistic until then I'm not going to be trying to make anything toxic.
3 points is what matters most. No one talks about the suits when they are winning.
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He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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It’s aimed at a number of things and Levy is a big part of it. Fonseca’s lack of quality is bloody obvious son, I don’t need to justify that. He’s a European journeyman who had about 20 different clubs. His only true success was in the weak Ukranian league where by the way, Sergei Rebrov is smashing it. You want Rebrov now as our manager ? It’s a joke mate, what ever way you try and swing it. The likes of Sandy etc moaning about other supporters accept mediocrity. Pretend they support the decisions, but in reality know deep down the club are an absolute mess. How can any Spurs fan be content with this ? From Conte to Levy’s 9th choice gimp that’s clearly bought in as a puppet. We will be 15th by Xmas and this c*** will be gone. Rinse and repeat. But, the Spurs fans on here that continuously defend Levy like some weird cult will keep doing the same. Levy appointed this DOF, so if he didn’t appoint the manager himself, he’s still directly involved. Wake the f** up!!!!
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You're issue is you see this as defending Levy. Till you wipe that red miat from you're eyes you'll continue to try and post offensively to try and sound passionate.
I dont buy it...you have no clue if this is 9th choice..you just spouting what media fed you.
Secondly...We all wanted Levy to step back..he appoints a Juventus DoF with 11 years experience of winning things..but this isn't good enough.
Thirdly..we finished 7th and in European conference league...which top.class player really wants to not be in champs league let alone manager.
Fourth: which top class manager wants to take over Spurs without Harry Kane
I.think you need a reality check to understand where Jose has left us. You need more than Conte in your life.
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He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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It’s aimed at a number of things and Levy is a big part of it. Fonseca’s lack of quality is bloody obvious son, I don’t need to justify that. He’s a European journeyman who had about 20 different clubs. His only true success was in the weak Ukranian league where by the way, Sergei Rebrov is smashing it. You want Rebrov now as our manager ? It’s a joke mate, what ever way you try and swing it. The likes of Sandy etc moaning about other supporters accept mediocrity. Pretend they support the decisions, but in reality know deep down the club are an absolute mess. How can any Spurs fan be content with this ? From Conte to Levy’s 9th choice gimp that’s clearly bought in as a puppet. We will be 15th by Xmas and this c*** will be gone. Rinse and repeat. But, the Spurs fans on here that continuously defend Levy like some weird cult will keep doing the same. Levy appointed this DOF, so if he didn’t appoint the manager himself, he’s still directly involved. Wake the f** up!!!!
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You're issue is you see this as defending Levy. Till you wipe that red miat from you're eyes you'll continue to try and post offensively to try and sound passionate.
I dont buy it...you have no clue if this is 9th choice..you just spouting what media fed you.
Secondly...We all wanted Levy to step back..he appoints a Juventus DoF with 11 years experience of winning things..but this isn't good enough.
Thirdly..we finished 7th and in European conference league...which top.class player really wants to not be in champs league let alone manager.
Fourth: which top class manager wants to take over Spurs without Harry Kane
I.think you need a reality check to understand where Jose has left us. You need more than Conte in your life.
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And I don’t buy your Bolloks either mate. You are no better a supporter than me just because you support this mess we are in. So, because you are content with Levy continuously making wrong decisions, I’m supposed to accept that ? I pay enough money into this club to be able to have a voice and express my anger. You talk about 7th place , Harry Kane moving etc etc, who’s fault is that ? It isn’t just down to Mourinho; it’s our chairman who has failed to provide the appropriate funds and players on the field to push the club forward. Now you want me to accept a European journey man manager that’s clearly our 6th or 7th choice? He was free all summer son. We could of got him anytime: it doesn’t take a genius to work out this is clearly desperation time and we have no other real options, so Levy just goes in a hat and picks a manager that has no real credibility whatsoever.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 5 minutes ago
He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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Absolutely. According to the likes of Ace, his is the only opinion that counts. I don`t mind Ace, he is a bit self-opinionated, but in general posts some decent stuff. But he has a fault, that he doesn`t like to listen to other opinions.
If say Fonsecas does become the next Spurs manager, nobody knows how it may work out, including Ace and all the others that are crucifying the fella before he has even been appointed. To many posters are already judging him to be a probable failure. It`s like having a new workmate turn up, and on the first day, say I don`t think he will be any good. It is not nice. Everybody deserves a chance.
Now is not the time to judge somebody, give him a season at the very least, two really should be the minimum.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 6 seconds ago
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posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 5 minutes ago
He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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It’s aimed at a number of things and Levy is a big part of it. Fonseca’s lack of quality is bloody obvious son, I don’t need to justify that. He’s a European journeyman who had about 20 different clubs. His only true success was in the weak Ukranian league where by the way, Sergei Rebrov is smashing it. You want Rebrov now as our manager ? It’s a joke mate, what ever way you try and swing it. The likes of Sandy etc moaning about other supporters accept mediocrity. Pretend they support the decisions, but in reality know deep down the club are an absolute mess. How can any Spurs fan be content with this ? From Conte to Levy’s 9th choice gimp that’s clearly bought in as a puppet. We will be 15th by Xmas and this c*** will be gone. Rinse and repeat. But, the Spurs fans on here that continuously defend Levy like some weird cult will keep doing the same. Levy appointed this DOF, so if he didn’t appoint the manager himself, he’s still directly involved. Wake the f** up!!!!
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You're issue is you see this as defending Levy. Till you wipe that red miat from you're eyes you'll continue to try and post offensively to try and sound passionate.
I dont buy it...you have no clue if this is 9th choice..you just spouting what media fed you.
Secondly...We all wanted Levy to step back..he appoints a Juventus DoF with 11 years experience of winning things..but this isn't good enough.
Thirdly..we finished 7th and in European conference league...which top.class player really wants to not be in champs league let alone manager.
Fourth: which top class manager wants to take over Spurs without Harry Kane
I.think you need a reality check to understand where Jose has left us. You need more than Conte in your life.
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And I don’t buy your Bolloks either mate. You are no better a supporter than me just because you support this mess we are in. So, because you are content with Levy continuously making wrong decisions, I’m supposed to accept that ? I pay enough money into this club to be able to have a voice and express my anger. You talk about 7th place , Harry Kane moving etc etc, who’s fault is that ? It isn’t just down to Mourinho; it’s our chairman who has failed to provide the appropriate funds and players on the field to push the club forward. Now you want me to accept a European journey man manager that’s clearly our 6th or 7th choice? He was free all summer son. We could of got him anytime: it doesn’t take a genius to work out this is clearly desperation time and we have no other real options, so Levy just goes in a hat and picks a manager that has no real credibility whatsoever.
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To be fair Don, you said the club was not going to get a penny of your money, so not sure why you areso concerned over who the new manager is, if you are not that interested in the club anymore, and have said your intentions are not to go to WHL anymore.
You need to chill out a bit mate. Meet me for a pint at WHL, and I will show you how to relax.
posted on 10/6/21
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
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He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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It’s aimed at a number of things and Levy is a big part of it. Fonseca’s lack of quality is bloody obvious son, I don’t need to justify that. He’s a European journeyman who had about 20 different clubs. His only true success was in the weak Ukranian league where by the way, Sergei Rebrov is smashing it. You want Rebrov now as our manager ? It’s a joke mate, what ever way you try and swing it. The likes of Sandy etc moaning about other supporters accept mediocrity. Pretend they support the decisions, but in reality know deep down the club are an absolute mess. How can any Spurs fan be content with this ? From Conte to Levy’s 9th choice gimp that’s clearly bought in as a puppet. We will be 15th by Xmas and this c*** will be gone. Rinse and repeat. But, the Spurs fans on here that continuously defend Levy like some weird cult will keep doing the same. Levy appointed this DOF, so if he didn’t appoint the manager himself, he’s still directly involved. Wake the f** up!!!!
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You're issue is you see this as defending Levy. Till you wipe that red miat from you're eyes you'll continue to try and post offensively to try and sound passionate.
I dont buy it...you have no clue if this is 9th choice..you just spouting what media fed you.
Secondly...We all wanted Levy to step back..he appoints a Juventus DoF with 11 years experience of winning things..but this isn't good enough.
Thirdly..we finished 7th and in European conference league...which top.class player really wants to not be in champs league let alone manager.
Fourth: which top class manager wants to take over Spurs without Harry Kane
I.think you need a reality check to understand where Jose has left us. You need more than Conte in your life.
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And I don’t buy your Bolloks either mate. You are no better a supporter than me just because you support this mess we are in. So, because you are content with Levy continuously making wrong decisions, I’m supposed to accept that ? I pay enough money into this club to be able to have a voice and express my anger. You talk about 7th place , Harry Kane moving etc etc, who’s fault is that ? It isn’t just down to Mourinho; it’s our chairman who has failed to provide the appropriate funds and players on the field to push the club forward. Now you want me to accept a European journey man manager that’s clearly our 6th or 7th choice? He was free all summer son. We could of got him anytime: it doesn’t take a genius to work out this is clearly desperation time and we have no other real options, so Levy just goes in a hat and picks a manager that has no real credibility whatsoever.
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To be fair Don, you said the club was not going to get a penny of your money, so not sure why you areso concerned over who the new manager is, if you are not that interested in the club anymore, and have said your intentions are not to go to WHL anymore.
You need to chill out a bit mate. Meet me for a pint at WHL, and I will show you how to relax.
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I am chilled mate in every day life. It’s Spurs that wind me the f** up. I just won’t bother next season. It breaks my heart, but I refuse to give these people the time of day now.
posted on 10/6/21
Having slept on it, I am still bemused. I read yday someone saying it feels like we are shopping at the petrol station on Xmas eve. Still rings true
I have said in the past whoever the next manager is we should be grateful to him because he accepts working under Levy but in this instance it feels like Fonseca could hit have hit the jackpot.
No way was he number 1, 2nd or even 3rd choice when the "list" was made for potential candidates. He is damaged goods. I really hope like Conte before him, this somehow falls through but if it doesn't then sod it, we ride or die with him. What a joke club?!! How can Levy accept this appointment after making that statement about DNA ect ect?
posted on 10/6/21
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comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 5 minutes ago
He had a decent win % at Roma, like 52%
The guy is decent but fans want Poch/Conte and are throwing toys out of their prams.
Good article OP. Our fans need to adjust their expectations a bit.
Currently we are not the same side that was chasing top 4!
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Conte chase was a dumb PR move but it's the press more than the club. They love Spurs fans in disarray..if its not trying to sell our players it's linking us to every manager.
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That’s not true. We were 100% in talks with Conte as confirmed by Romano and Gold. Coincidentally we were in talks with him up til season ticket deadline day, when we pulled out and a few days later we appoint Fonseca. Again, I don’t see why fans are willing to just shrug their shoulders at the clubs conduct, they are a disgrace.
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Because the club is bigger than Levy. Which is my greater concern. Supporting the manager and players or vexing for Levy. To each their own. I'm looking forward to new players and Skipp, Sessegnon, Scarlett, Tanganga getting positive support from the first game.
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Levy is Tottenham, he owns 30% of a company that owns 85% of our share capital, he is an unaccountable dictator. Fans like you are his dream - meekly shrugging your shoulders at your lot in life while he bends you over facks you right up the arrsehole with his massive, mustard coated, razor wire laced strap-on.
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This is funny. Usual case of Spurs fans turning against each other instead of analysing the squad and the team. Pathetic post. You'll offer no solutions in your bitterness but complain and spit venom. Whatever makes you happy... What have you achieved upon all your levy hatred...let me know when we sign a manager that you approve of...till then best go back to your cave and carve.
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Why are the likes of Sandy and you not getting it. This isn’t ‘throwing your toys out of the pram’ over this appointment, and it’s not ‘not backing Fonseca’. And also, for the record, I’ve been an ENIC/Levy supporter, apologist even, for a long time but my support has waned the last two years and as a grass roots coach and non league ST holder him signing us up to the ESL was the final straw, I do not expect my club to be responsible for trying to sell the rest of the English football pyramid down the river for a handful of silver.
But regardless of whether Fonseca gets my backing - which he does - I can still see this appointment for what it is. Cut price, unambitious, desperate. You can say it like it is but still support the guy, the two aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s called being honest and realistic about what’s going on.
And the criticism of Levy doesn’t stem from this appointment - this is a continuation of a series of sub par decision making over two years that warrants scrutiny - especially when the club charges the most expensive tickets in the land. Sacking Pochettino, appointing Jose, furlough, ESL, charging fans £60 for row Z tickets in the first game back vs Villa, flirting with Poch and Conte up til ST renewal day then pulling the plug and this whole manager debacle in general.
Fonseca categorically gets my backing and I hope he does well. That doesn’t mean I view his appointment as a step in the right direction by the club, and merely appointing someone doesn’t get the board off the hook for their shocking mismanagement of the club the last two or three years. It’s called applying context. I don’t expect sandy to understand this because he has history here and is both deliberately contrary and only sees things in black and white. If you can’t understand it either then it’s not even worth having the conversation.
You can be critical of a situation while offering support to an individual at the same time, it’s that simple.
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I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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It’s aimed at a number of things and Levy is a big part of it. Fonseca’s lack of quality is bloody obvious son, I don’t need to justify that. He’s a European journeyman who had about 20 different clubs. His only true success was in the weak Ukranian league where by the way, Sergei Rebrov is smashing it. You want Rebrov now as our manager ? It’s a joke mate, what ever way you try and swing it. The likes of Sandy etc moaning about other supporters accept mediocrity. Pretend they support the decisions, but in reality know deep down the club are an absolute mess. How can any Spurs fan be content with this ? From Conte to Levy’s 9th choice gimp that’s clearly bought in as a puppet. We will be 15th by Xmas and this c*** will be gone. Rinse and repeat. But, the Spurs fans on here that continuously defend Levy like some weird cult will keep doing the same. Levy appointed this DOF, so if he didn’t appoint the manager himself, he’s still directly involved. Wake the f** up!!!!
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You're issue is you see this as defending Levy. Till you wipe that red miat from you're eyes you'll continue to try and post offensively to try and sound passionate.
I dont buy it...you have no clue if this is 9th choice..you just spouting what media fed you.
Secondly...We all wanted Levy to step back..he appoints a Juventus DoF with 11 years experience of winning things..but this isn't good enough.
Thirdly..we finished 7th and in European conference league...which top.class player really wants to not be in champs league let alone manager.
Fourth: which top class manager wants to take over Spurs without Harry Kane
I.think you need a reality check to understand where Jose has left us. You need more than Conte in your life.
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And I don’t buy your Bolloks either mate. You are no better a supporter than me just because you support this mess we are in. So, because you are content with Levy continuously making wrong decisions, I’m supposed to accept that ? I pay enough money into this club to be able to have a voice and express my anger. You talk about 7th place , Harry Kane moving etc etc, who’s fault is that ? It isn’t just down to Mourinho; it’s our chairman who has failed to provide the appropriate funds and players on the field to push the club forward. Now you want me to accept a European journey man manager that’s clearly our 6th or 7th choice? He was free all summer son. We could of got him anytime: it doesn’t take a genius to work out this is clearly desperation time and we have no other real options, so Levy just goes in a hat and picks a manager that has no real credibility whatsoever.
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To be fair Don, you said the club was not going to get a penny of your money, so not sure why you areso concerned over who the new manager is, if you are not that interested in the club anymore, and have said your intentions are not to go to WHL anymore.
You need to chill out a bit mate. Meet me for a pint at WHL, and I will show you how to relax.
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I am chilled mate in every day life. It’s Spurs that wind me the f** up. I just won’t bother next season. It breaks my heart, but I refuse to give these people the time of day now.
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Fair enough Don, but the offer of a free pint on me at WHL is still on the table if you change your mind.
posted on 10/6/21
Asking random geezers from an internet forum to meet for a pint feels just wrong!
posted on 10/6/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 18 minutes ago
I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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What, do you don’t agree re Levy and the board? You’re happy with their performance?
And - again - you have to be realistic. Park the ‘back him don’t back him’ thing to one side and look at it objectively. He is a journeyman manager, 11 clubs in 15 years, sacked from his higher profile jobs (Porto/Roma). It is not unreasonable for a fan to suggest that he lacks the quality we need.
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This is a better question..Levy has been carp at football decisions. This doesn't blind me from the fact I see progress with a DoF stepping in. The manager we appoint is the level we are at. So I'm not surprised this is who we might appoint. I even posted an article some weeks ago about Fonseca or Sarri.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by LukaBrasi Ryan's mate #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
Asking random geezers from an internet forum to meet for a pint feels just wrong!
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that a no then?
posted on 10/6/21
It's sad what it's come to but Jose appointment set us back. Our squad last season was very strong. We had a back up striker that was top scorer in his league. We signed a top left back, Ndombele and Lo Celso fit. Bergwijn with a season under his belt. BALE returned.
Not many felt Jose wasn't backed last season...even the media when we were top was excited.
So what went wrong? Did Enic take over management of football mid-season? Jose let us down and now we need to rebuild. It's going to be hard especially as our poor performance means our star striker wants to leave. End of an era for me.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by Phenom - you're a wizard Graham (U20037)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Ryan's mate #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
Asking random geezers from an internet forum to meet for a pint feels just wrong!
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that a no then?
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Well you never asked..
posted on 10/6/21
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posted on 10/6/21
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 9 minutes ago
It's sad what it's come to but Jose appointment set us back. Our squad last season was very strong. We had a back up striker that was top scorer in his league. We signed a top left back, Ndombele and Lo Celso fit. Bergwijn with a season under his belt. BALE returned.
Not many felt Jose wasn't backed last season...even the media when we were top was excited.
So what went wrong? Did Enic take over management of football mid-season? Jose let us down and now we need to rebuild. It's going to be hard especially as our poor performance means our star striker wants to leave. End of an era for me.
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Any manager that was left with a squad including Sissoko, Aurier, Sanchez, Dier, Winks and Doherty, has not been backed properly.
posted on 10/6/21
the squad wasnt very strong at all, maybe upfront.
it was big in terms of numbers but its bloated by players who have been here too long or are just not the required quality to step in when needed.
most people got carried away by 7 new players coming in in the summer.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by LukaBrasi Ryan's mate #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 17 minutes ago
Asking random geezers from an internet forum to meet for a pint feels just wrong!
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how you get some of the best sooks
posted on 10/6/21
If we manage to get in some decent players am sure he will do just fine. You would think Fonseca just landed from the moon and never seen a football they way some fans are going. And true, what had Poch won?potter.. yeah pretty football. I get it..fighting relegation. Am sure he could do a job to with better players.
Zidane before Real Madrid.? Am sure our fans would have kicked up a stink if we tried appointing him years ago.
So why not Fonseca!!
If we are expecting a stellar manager then they want players who can deliver trophies. Guess what, they either don’t want to come or faacked off somewhere else.
Fonseca got my backing all day. COYS!!
posted on 10/6/21
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 9 minutes ago
It's sad what it's come to but Jose appointment set us back. Our squad last season was very strong. We had a back up striker that was top scorer in his league. We signed a top left back, Ndombele and Lo Celso fit. Bergwijn with a season under his belt. BALE returned.
Not many felt Jose wasn't backed last season...even the media when we were top was excited.
So what went wrong? Did Enic take over management of football mid-season? Jose let us down and now we need to rebuild. It's going to be hard especially as our poor performance means our star striker wants to leave. End of an era for me.
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Any manager that was left with a squad including Sissoko, Aurier, Sanchez, Dier, Winks and Doherty, has not been backed properly.
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They should all have been bench players and subs. Some here were happy with Doherty, the second most creative RWB in the prem.
posted on 10/6/21
Ok trying to see this from Levy's POV. There have been reports that he wants King and Mason involved in the coaching set up. This seems plausible so maybe Fonseca or the new man has to agree to these terms.
Whether both are any good is up for debate but it feels like Levy wants to help these guys develope. Fairplay but there are other lesser clubs were they can learn their trade too.
Yday I read a few snippets of Levy wanting Skipp and Sess to be involved in the squad/team too. Again fair enough but they have to prove they are good enough for the prem. Skipp played a blinder last season but the jury is still out whether he is prem ready. Same for Sess as well.
It feel like Levy wants to focus to be on young players which I am not against as they tend to be more hungry and fight for the cause so to speak more than your Sissoko's, Winks and Diers of this world but he has to bring in a few experience players to provide a good balance. I hope Paratici is able to weed the deadwood out and bring in ample replacements.
Again too many if and buts and knowing Spurs it only leads to more dissapointment in the long run.
Will wait to see what unfolds between now and the start of the season to see where we are and where we are possibly going before I start cutting my wrists lol
posted on 10/6/21
comment by Bale is back! .The story continues... (U12707)
posted 6 minutes ago
If we manage to get in some decent players am sure he will do just fine. You would think Fonseca just landed from the moon and never seen a football they way some fans are going. And true, what had Poch won?potter.. yeah pretty football. I get it..fighting relegation. Am sure he could do a job to with better players.
Zidane before Real Madrid.? Am sure our fans would have kicked up a stink if we tried appointing him years ago.
So why not Fonseca!!
If we are expecting a stellar manager then they want players who can deliver trophies. Guess what, they either don’t want to come or faacked off somewhere else.
Fonseca got my backing all day. COYS!!
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This is something I would have felt 10 ten years ago but I have been there before and in the past has lead to dissapointment. Again gonna wait for official announcements before getting even getting remotely excited. COYS
posted on 10/6/21
comment by Bale is back! .The story continues... (U12707)
posted 6 minutes ago
If we manage to get in some decent players am sure he will do just fine. You would think Fonseca just landed from the moon and never seen a football they way some fans are going. And true, what had Poch won?potter.. yeah pretty football. I get it..fighting relegation. Am sure he could do a job to with better players.
Zidane before Real Madrid.? Am sure our fans would have kicked up a stink if we tried appointing him years ago.
So why not Fonseca!!
If we are expecting a stellar manager then they want players who can deliver trophies. Guess what, they either don’t want to come or faacked off somewhere else.
Fonseca got my backing all day. COYS!!
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This....Jose left a shambles, underutilised the squad and played The wrong defensive combos...game after game. Brought on Sissoko when we had Bale, Bergwijn, Lo Celso, Vinicius, Alli...threw away 23 points from leading positions yet somehow....this is all owners faults.
Levy is an annoying git but last seasons performance was way below par and Jose was to blame. If we had finished in top 4. Kane wouldn't be leaving and we would be selling deadwood. And certain fans would be subdued. Such is life
posted on 10/6/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 18 minutes ago
I would agree with you if half of the anger on this forum wasn't aimed at Fonsecas lack of quality according to some.
But it is....
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What, do you don’t agree re Levy and the board? You’re happy with their performance?
And - again - you have to be realistic. Park the ‘back him don’t back him’ thing to one side and look at it objectively. He is a journeyman manager, 11 clubs in 15 years, sacked from his higher profile jobs (Porto/Roma). It is not unreasonable for a fan to suggest that he lacks the quality we need.
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This is a better question..Levy has been carp at football decisions. This doesn't blind me from the fact I see progress with a DoF stepping in. The manager we appoint is the level we are at. So I'm not surprised this is who we might appoint. I even posted an article some weeks ago about Fonseca or Sarri.
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Chelsea finished 10th and went and appointed Conte, Leicester were bottom half and got Rodgers. How we did last season is irrelevant, if you say “oh we had a bad season so we need to accept we’re crap and make a bang average appointment that suits our new status” then that is pathetic and shows no ambition to remedy the poor decisions that lead to that crap season in the first place. We have been a CL club for half this decade, we have elite facilities, the board claim they want us back in the CL and playing good football, we stumbled last term but stop sugar coating the fact that we could and should be aiming higher than Paulo Fonseca.
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This. Pointless even bothering to be honest, it’s a rinse and repeat merry go round. No other fans accept mediocrity other than Spurs fans.
posted on 10/6/21
I want to see which players we sign and if we strengthen at the back which was the major weakness. I'm giving this regime the summer window to get me optimistic until then I'm not going to be trying to make anything toxic.
3 points is what matters most. No one talks about the suits when they are winning.
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