This, exactly my thoughts before and after the game. I don’t give a flying f about England, but Southgate should be nowhere near this team. With the players he has, he should be dominating most opponents. You guys should get Eddie Howe or Graham Potter as new manager

Mount > Grealish

If we'd have played oysters in defence and shi1akes up front I'd have accepted a few closed cup decisions

Spot on. You need to suit tactics and approach of the game to your opponent. Southgate were far too negative and his players couldnt switch it when the needed it.

As the OP pointed out so much talent in England's squad offensively but not used it.

Had we won, it would have been like Greece winning it.

Last night was the worst display of Mourinho-style defensive shiiite I've seen in a while.

comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 3 minutes ago
Last night was the worst display of Mourinho-style defensive shiiite I've seen in a while.
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It was a textbook Mourinho game. Fast start, early goal, then sit deeper and deeper allowing your opponents to completely dominate and eventually equalise.

comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 3 minutes ago
Last night was the worst display of Mourinho-style defensive shiiite I've seen in a while.
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It was a textbook Mourinho game. Fast start, early goal, then sit deeper and deeper allowing your opponents to completely dominate and eventually equalise.
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I think the early goal was the worst thing that could happen to England.

It was Spurs fans during Mourinho who said they'd hope they wouldn't score early as they would then sit back all match and concede.

Early goals are only good if you back them up with another. We had them on the ropes first 25 mins, then sat deeper and allowed them back into the game instead of being more ruthless.

Pretty much agree with all of this.

What worries me.most is how can he and his coaches can stand there watching and think, yeah, this is working.

Lastly, Mount over Grealish? Wtf is all that about?

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Grealish has largely done nothing. Well except dive around. I think people forget that

I also think his decision to bring on Sancho and Rashford after 119 minutes just to take a pen was very disrespectful.

Southgate bottled it big time. Trying to defend a 1 nil lead from 2nd minute hardly ever works. Every time I have seen Utd try and do this it goes wrong. It's just too long to sit back and give up possession.

We had the tools to get a 2nd and maybe a third against Italy had we gone for them but the coward in charge was too scared and got what he deserved.

He found a way to lose a game we could and should have won. I hope he is replaced.

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comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 hour ago
He found a way to lose a game we could and should have won. I hope he is replaced.
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Could. Possibly

Should. RDD you are such a moron.

Unfortunately even though it gave us all a life to get to a final and dreaming of England success the simple fact is we failed to take advantage of a favourable draw and home advantage.

Truth be told we didn't use our flair players enough and played a mostly bang average style of football that bored our opponents into submission.

I can't see anything changing and Southgate will be rewarded by the FA with a contract extension and the media will completey go O. T. T licking his derriere and lauding him as a fantastic coach.

Putrid vomit Inducing celebrities and ex pro's will give their backing to nice chap Southgate and be complicit in this blind faith in a tactically dislexic individual who just does not have a pro active bone in his body and ensure England fail to fulfil their potential yet again after being graced with possibly the greatest set of young exxciting talent we have ever had but sadly not utilised by a very cautious negative thinking man.

Our only hope is Southgate is seduced by an overinflated salary from some other club daft enough to think Southgate will win them stuff.

I think he is a decent bloke and would be suitable for a bottom 6 Premier club wishing to survive but not the right man to win an International tournament with his overly defensive set ups.

Time will tell and if I'm wrong I will gladly eat humble pie but I think sadly we all know we are saddled with this guy for at least 3 or 4 more years and so 3 or 4 more years of disappointment and underachievement.

comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 5 hours, 10 minutes ago
If we'd have played oysters in defence and shi1akes up front I'd have accepted a few closed cup decisions
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you're a fun guy

Think it was the spelling of Champaign / champignons - or summat. Presuming I was very far gone at this point