Saying people wanted Klopp sacked ‘before and after’ the CL win is an interesting way to say it if ‘after’ is a year and a half after the event. Chelsea fans wanted Mourinho sacked a year and a half after he won his last league title - it’s quite a long time in footballing terms

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Anyway I suspect the preferred model would be one that isn't monstrously in debt and actually wins something.
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Sad thing is with Clubs breaching FFP weekly how do you compete without taking on some serious debt. Spurs are extreme though. That I admit. Penny pinching at key moments have done huge damage
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Teams aren't breaking FFP.
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Well technically City are, just the governing body were pitifully slow to react

You missed out Leeds

* Full on attacking football at all costs
* High intensity football
* Every player giving 110% or the system breaks or they get booted out
* Not spending buckets of cash in the process
* Making current players much better

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 24 seconds ago
Our model is not too dissimilar to Spurs but we have Klopp and the Coutinho money helped.
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Our model is vastly different.

We didn't budget £400m for a new stadium, completely fvck it up by coming in twice over budget and decided to double our wage bill instead.

We have one of the lowest debts to turnover in the Prem.
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The 400m figure was from the very early plans in the early 2010s. It's not a complete fvck up, it's the reality of building a state of the art stadium.

You might have noticed we've also doubled our wage bill in that time. It's funny how the 'hur dur Spurs need to pay players properly' still goes on when we've got several now on 200k+

comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 24 seconds ago
Our model is not too dissimilar to Spurs but we have Klopp and the Coutinho money helped.
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Our model is vastly different.

We didn't budget £400m for a new stadium, completely fvck it up by coming in twice over budget and decided to double our wage bill instead.

We have one of the lowest debts to turnover in the Prem.
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The 400m figure was from the very early plans in the early 2010s. It's not a complete fvck up, it's the reality of building a state of the art stadium.

You might have noticed we've also doubled our wage bill in that time. It's funny how the 'hur dur Spurs need to pay players properly' still goes on when we've got several now on 200k+
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Oh right so it wasn't over budget, it didn't finish months late and Spurs didn't have to ask for special dispensation to continue playing at Wembley?

That is news to me tbf.

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 24 seconds ago
Our model is not too dissimilar to Spurs but we have Klopp and the Coutinho money helped.
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Our model is vastly different.

We didn't budget £400m for a new stadium, completely fvck it up by coming in twice over budget and decided to double our wage bill instead.

We have one of the lowest debts to turnover in the Prem.
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The 400m figure was from the very early plans in the early 2010s. It's not a complete fvck up, it's the reality of building a state of the art stadium.

You might have noticed we've also doubled our wage bill in that time. It's funny how the 'hur dur Spurs need to pay players properly' still goes on when we've got several now on 200k+
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Oh right so it wasn't over budget, it didn't finish months late and Spurs didn't have to ask for special dispensation to continue playing at Wembley?

That is news to me tbf.
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comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 6 minutes ago
You missed out Leeds

* Full on attacking football at all costs
* High intensity football
* Every player giving 110% or the system breaks or they get booted out
* Not spending buckets of cash in the process
* Making current players much better
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But like spurs , you haven’t won anything yet , so no not Leeds Shaun

Burnley smallest town, smallest budget, still maintain Premier League status with fast flowing football

comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 16 seconds ago
Burnley smallest town, smallest budget, still maintain Premier League status with fast flowing football
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No black policy too

Burnley ... flowing football

comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 19 seconds ago
Burnley ... flowing football
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To be fair booting it 60 yards up field is at least fast.

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Anyway I suspect the preferred model would be one that isn't monstrously in debt and actually wins something.
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Sad thing is with Clubs breaching FFP weekly how do you compete without taking on some serious debt. Spurs are extreme though. That I admit. Penny pinching at key moments have done huge damage
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Teams aren't breaking FFP.
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Well technically City are, just the governing body were pitifully slow to react
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Actually City aren't, the Mail just likes to publish fake emails dated from before FFP even came in.

Congratulations to Liverpool for selling Coutinho for £600m.

Good bit of business there.

comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 6 minutes ago
You missed out Leeds

* Full on attacking football at all costs
* High intensity football
* Every player giving 110% or the system breaks or they get booted out
* Not spending buckets of cash in the process
* Making current players much better
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But like spurs , you haven’t won anything yet , so no not Leeds Shaun
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Give us a break, we've only been back 20 minutes

All of those teams above except for West Ham have won trophies.

Spurs would do well to follow any of them

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Anyway I suspect the preferred model would be one that isn't monstrously in debt and actually wins something.
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Sad thing is with Clubs breaching FFP weekly how do you compete without taking on some serious debt. Spurs are extreme though. That I admit. Penny pinching at key moments have done huge damage
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Teams aren't breaking FFP.
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Well technically City are, just the governing body were pitifully slow to react
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Eh? No we’re not

comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 6 minutes ago
You missed out Leeds

* Full on attacking football at all costs
* High intensity football
* Every player giving 110% or the system breaks or they get booted out
* Not spending buckets of cash in the process
* Making current players much better
----------------------------------------------------------------------

But like spurs , you haven’t won anything yet , so no not Leeds Shaun
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Give us a break, we've only been back 20 minutes
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Couple years on can see a Leeds challenge for major trophy tbf

comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 6 minutes ago
You missed out Leeds

* Full on attacking football at all costs
* High intensity football
* Every player giving 110% or the system breaks or they get booted out
* Not spending buckets of cash in the process
* Making current players much better
----------------------------------------------------------------------

But like spurs , you haven’t won anything yet , so no not Leeds Shaun
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Give us a break, we've only been back 20 minutes
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Couple years on can see a Leeds challenge for major trophy tbf
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Audi Cup

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Anyway I suspect the preferred model would be one that isn't monstrously in debt and actually wins something.
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Sad thing is with Clubs breaching FFP weekly how do you compete without taking on some serious debt. Spurs are extreme though. That I admit. Penny pinching at key moments have done huge damage
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Teams aren't breaking FFP.
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Well technically City are, just the governing body were pitifully slow to react
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Eh? No we’re not

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I find it odd now, and lazy.

I mean in my head City spend a fair bit simply from coining it from prize money. I imagine this is not far from the case is it?

Most people don't know what prize money is on this board tbh.

spurs are a very well run company, just too bad its a football club because levy doesn't seem to care about that side of things.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
Most people don't know what prize money is on this board tbh.
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tbf not many teams get any, other than for where they finish in the standings.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
Most people don't know what prize money is on this board tbh.
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Neither would you if it weren't for oil money

Surely the model where the owners are ambitious and actually want the best for their club?

This fettish of football fans to villainise clubs with ambition while portraying clubs/fans who pander to owners like Kroenke and ENIC/Levy as moral protagonist's is very odd.

comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Everywhere you go, always take Rapinha with you! (U9955)
posted 6 minutes ago
You missed out Leeds

* Full on attacking football at all costs
* High intensity football
* Every player giving 110% or the system breaks or they get booted out
* Not spending buckets of cash in the process
* Making current players much better
----------------------------------------------------------------------

But like spurs , you haven’t won anything yet , so no not Leeds Shaun
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Give us a break, we've only been back 20 minutes
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i think in a couple of years leeds will be viewed as a model club. right now its easy to overlook our whole structure and see only the massive improvement made by the hiring of bielsa who imo is in the top three managers in the league and possibly the world.
but our whole board has been very shrewd since they bought all the grifters and hangers on out.