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comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 31/7/21

Henry, The Glazers, the Kroenke's & the Juventus guy got the board positions because it's their baby, their project along with Perez. If any of those guys were owners at Chelsea or City they still would've got those positions & been at the forefront of it's creation. Barcelona needed this more than anyone, more than Real, and the concept certainly needs them to work, and they didn't have a representative on the board. I don't attach any relevance to that what so ever.

I repeat, if Perez thought this thing could take off without Chelsea & City, knowing we'd be reluctant to sign up for it cos Chelsea don't need it & the last thing City's ownership desires is negative PR, it would've! He's had aspirations of forming something like this for approx 20 years, you think he's allowing two potential flight risks to put their names to it if he didn't need us? We both panicked and massively underestimated the negative response.

It's really simple. Perez needed Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea & Man City in this thing, the standings in Europe of all four today are too big not to have them, Arsenal's a grey area but certainly wouldn't hurt. Luckily for him United, Liverpool & Arsenal have owners who've wanted to pioneer a project like this since taking business stakes in football clubs so they're no problem. Chelsea & City don't, they have owners not against the principle (they signed after all) but who'll need a reason. Fear worked 1st time, it won't work a 2nd (you'd think anyway). But because of that in the fight to prevent it we've become the de facto most important players.

The young fans (of all clubs in & out of the SL) would've been the only one's who'd swallow this with time, the older fans never will. I'm sure even Perez isn't out of touch enough to know that.

posted on 31/7/21

Bartomeu was on the board, he just got kicked out of Barca. The reason these clubs are at the forefront is because they are needed the most, it’s just simply not the case with Chelsea and City, and it wasn’t hard to convince them to join clearly.

The whole point is to get as many of the biggest clubs in Europe as possible to join, but there’s clearly a hierarchy and clubs which are fundamental to the project. I’m sorry but you’ve not put across any convincing arguments that City and Chelsea are two such clubs, and that they are somehow kingmakers in the project.

Perez is certainly out of touch, and you only have to listen to crap he spouts to realise this. But even if he isn’t, we know he’s a liar. The whole thing behind attracting young fans - like this gives City and Chelsea more importance to the project - is a load of nonsense, because there’s no truth in it.

But whatever, you’re welcome to believe what you like. We’re obviously not going to agree on this.

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