As I understand it, the stadium is totally paid for now
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This isn't true.
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Yet you’re messing about buying players that haven’t been even close to good enough for your club
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Not sure thus is true either. We are out of Europe, never mind the CL, so that massively impacts the market we are shopping in. We have signed a lot of young players for mid range prices. It is a transition period, there will be hits and misses. But along with the youngsters we already have, I am confident the team will grow and improve.
Mari - £7m
Gabriel - £27m
Partey - £45m
White - £50m
Tavares - £8m
Lokonga - £19m
Ødegaard - £35m
Ramsdale - £30m
Total: £221m
More than £200m spending under Arteta and I still can't see how their squad is top 4 quality or at least better than Leicester City.
I get that Arsenal would struggle to attract the more 'sexier' names in football considering their position today, but I still find it baffling how they choose to invest. Odegaard is a good player, and Ramsdale is probably a decent keeper, but to spend around £60million when neither of them improves their gaping weaknesses in the team baffles me. And that's not even going into spending £50million on a defender who loses the majority of aerial duels.
We tear into Arteta and rightly so (let's be honest, he's been clueless), but Edu is currently stealing a living there. Completely shocking business from them this summer.
Odegaard massively improved us last season. Getting him for £30m is a steal imo.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 10 seconds ago
Odegaard massively improved us last season. Getting him for £30m is a steal imo.
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Drifts in and out of games a little from what I've seen of him. Very early days for him in the prem tbf and he's still young but would like to see him impose himself on games more significantly and more consistently.
At the moment he looks very neat and tidy, decent close control and can move with the ball but doesn't get on it enough. As I say, early days and there are signs of his quality but I'm sure there's more to come.
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 10 minutes ago
I get that Arsenal would struggle to attract the more 'sexier' names in football considering their position today, but I still find it baffling how they choose to invest. Odegaard is a good player, and Ramsdale is probably a decent keeper, but to spend around £60million when neither of them improves their gaping weaknesses in the team baffles me. And that's not even going into spending £50million on a defender who loses the majority of aerial duels.
We tear into Arteta and rightly so (let's be honest, he's been clueless), but Edu is currently stealing a living there. Completely shocking business from them this summer.
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Blame the market and clubs like Chelsea who inflated the market with their money and players on high wages.
I’m sure there have been some form of protests but I’m just wondering why there hasn’t been (apologies if there has) serious levels of regular protesting / boycotting / crowd silence.
I feel for you guys and would much rather Arsenal be competing than the likes of City for example.
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Our owner has not interest in football. He understands football to raise this wealths.
Add that we made some mistakes in signing some flops which surely can be said for some clubs. Every clubs have signed them but in contrast the oil clubs dont care and signed more players.
It's not all about money though as the example of Leicester showing. It can be done. Not sure if Arsenal will recover under KSE and ever get back into the top 4.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 10 minutes ago
I get that Arsenal would struggle to attract the more 'sexier' names in football considering their position today, but I still find it baffling how they choose to invest. Odegaard is a good player, and Ramsdale is probably a decent keeper, but to spend around £60million when neither of them improves their gaping weaknesses in the team baffles me. And that's not even going into spending £50million on a defender who loses the majority of aerial duels.
We tear into Arteta and rightly so (let's be honest, he's been clueless), but Edu is currently stealing a living there. Completely shocking business from them this summer.
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Blame the market and clubs like Chelsea who inflated the market with their money and players on high wages.
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Your net spend has been higher than ours the last 5 years and this year is looking no different. Next time instead of spouting rubbish just state the simple truth that Chelsea are better run than Arsenal.
Bank of England funding you again ffs what is this the 20th century?
The OP asks a very valid question, and the reality is that whilst there have been a number of very public protests against Kroenke, a lot of us have become numb to what's happening.
Realistically the vast majority of Arsenal fans want Kroenke out, but he's proved very difficult and is being slow to sell the club on.
The debacle with Emery / Arteta / Edu / Vinay etc etc is something that we have little control over.
Sorry state of affairs over here at the moment.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
As I understand it, the stadium is totally paid for now
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This isn't true.
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Yet you’re messing about buying players that haven’t been even close to good enough for your club
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Not sure thus is true either. We are out of Europe, never mind the CL, so that massively impacts the market we are shopping in. We have signed a lot of young players for mid range prices. It is a transition period, there will be hits and misses. But along with the youngsters we already have, I am confident the team will grow and improve.
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Yeah ok £144m to pay off still for the stadium, my point was that it isn’t a valid excuse as it was during Wengers final years after leaving Highbury.
I appreciate that not being in Europe will not help by any means but I don’t even recognise Arsenal anymore and it’s been slowly but steadily heading in that direction for the last ten years.
I just think you guys should be going absolutely mental every single game. And I’d actually love to have the old Arsenal back.
comment by NorthLondonGunner (U22220)
posted 50 minutes ago
The OP asks a very valid question, and the reality is that whilst there have been a number of very public protests against Kroenke, a lot of us have become numb to what's happening.
Realistically the vast majority of Arsenal fans want Kroenke out, but he's proved very difficult and is being slow to sell the club on.
The debacle with Emery / Arteta / Edu / Vinay etc etc is something that we have little control over.
Sorry state of affairs over here at the moment.
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Yeah numb - that’s a better way of expressing what I’m saying. It seems to me that it’s accepted now almost in a Spurs way 😂
Its not just this season in which Arsenal's spending has been wasteful.
Xhaka
Mustafi
Kolasinac
Sokratis
Ok some decent performances every now and then not what will get you Top 4.
Arsenal light years away from that now
Arsenal have spent an absolute fortune in recent years and have done so without having the revenue from the Champions League at any time. There is no reason to complain about the expenditure, but more that they've spent it on dross all too often.
Arsenal are the biggest spenders in English football.
There should be thank you Stan articles, not this rubbish.
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How is a keeper like Ramsdale going for £30m? Every year the transfer window gets more and more shambolic.
We've spent loads but we've spent it badly. With the funds we've spent a different regime could have had us fighting at the very top, unfortunately we've trusted the wrong people to deliver and we're drifting further back every season
For some reason a few of you seem to think I’m talking about money, I’m not.
I’m saying the quality of players brought in has been poor compared to what you deserve and should be getting and I’m wondering why as a fan base you’re not protesting massively every single week.
The fans are divided.
An anti Stan Kroenke protest turned into appluad the team bus
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 54 minutes ago
They spend fortunes, particularly considering they’ve had no CL since 2016. They’ve just been badly run on the football side of things - let Wenger drag his tenure out too long then the two managers since have been bang average. Put their faith in average players on long contracts and high wages etc. It’s been a death by a thousand cuts for Arsenal over a long period, rather than a sudden crisis, and I think as a result the fans have just been desensitized to the gradual decline. For them to finish 8th two years on the trot is really poor, and you can’t see them doing any better this season with that squad, manager and standard of opposition.
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This is it.
The first mistake was selling to Stan.
The second mistake was not firing Wenger years earlier.
The third and fourth mistakes were bringing in Emery and Arteta instead of top class, proven managers (Klopp, Ancelotti, Conte, Allegri etc), and also letting the club be run by novices like Edu, Vinay and co.
It's been a shambles for over a decade and we are a very dumb, inexperienced and poorly run club.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
For some reason a few of you seem to think I’m talking about money, I’m not.
I’m saying the quality of players brought in has been poor compared to what you deserve and should be getting and I’m wondering why as a fan base you’re not protesting massively every single week.
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Did you write on of these after United bought Fred, Wan-Bissaka and Lindelof?
Arsenal should never have left Highbury.
They were already competing with the best.
Fans were sold a bunch of lies
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 10 minutes ago
I get that Arsenal would struggle to attract the more 'sexier' names in football considering their position today, but I still find it baffling how they choose to invest. Odegaard is a good player, and Ramsdale is probably a decent keeper, but to spend around £60million when neither of them improves their gaping weaknesses in the team baffles me. And that's not even going into spending £50million on a defender who loses the majority of aerial duels.
We tear into Arteta and rightly so (let's be honest, he's been clueless), but Edu is currently stealing a living there. Completely shocking business from them this summer.
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Blame the market and clubs like Chelsea who inflated the market with their money and players on high wages.
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Your net spend has been higher than ours the last 5 years and this year is looking no different. Next time instead of spouting rubbish just state the simple truth that Chelsea are better run than Arsenal.
Bank of England funding you again ffs what is this the 20th century?
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Why so rude? You have got an owner that is interested. We have an owner that wants to make money.
My comment refers to the whole KSE regime that include more than 5 years. The club run from zero to 100 when Roman came in. So in so far money brought you success.
We spend money all those years but not in the same frame as the KSE loaned us the money.
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 57 minutes ago
How is a keeper like Ramsdale going for £30m? Every year the transfer window gets more and more shambolic.
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He cost 24M
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 4 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 57 minutes ago
How is a keeper like Ramsdale going for £30m? Every year the transfer window gets more and more shambolic.
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He cost 24M
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+6m in add ons for games played and avoiding relegation
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posted on 19/8/21
As I understand it, the stadium is totally paid for now
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This isn't true.
------
Yet you’re messing about buying players that haven’t been even close to good enough for your club
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Not sure thus is true either. We are out of Europe, never mind the CL, so that massively impacts the market we are shopping in. We have signed a lot of young players for mid range prices. It is a transition period, there will be hits and misses. But along with the youngsters we already have, I am confident the team will grow and improve.
posted on 19/8/21
Mari - £7m
Gabriel - £27m
Partey - £45m
White - £50m
Tavares - £8m
Lokonga - £19m
Ødegaard - £35m
Ramsdale - £30m
Total: £221m
More than £200m spending under Arteta and I still can't see how their squad is top 4 quality or at least better than Leicester City.
posted on 19/8/21
I get that Arsenal would struggle to attract the more 'sexier' names in football considering their position today, but I still find it baffling how they choose to invest. Odegaard is a good player, and Ramsdale is probably a decent keeper, but to spend around £60million when neither of them improves their gaping weaknesses in the team baffles me. And that's not even going into spending £50million on a defender who loses the majority of aerial duels.
We tear into Arteta and rightly so (let's be honest, he's been clueless), but Edu is currently stealing a living there. Completely shocking business from them this summer.
posted on 19/8/21
Odegaard massively improved us last season. Getting him for £30m is a steal imo.
posted on 19/8/21
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 10 seconds ago
Odegaard massively improved us last season. Getting him for £30m is a steal imo.
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Drifts in and out of games a little from what I've seen of him. Very early days for him in the prem tbf and he's still young but would like to see him impose himself on games more significantly and more consistently.
At the moment he looks very neat and tidy, decent close control and can move with the ball but doesn't get on it enough. As I say, early days and there are signs of his quality but I'm sure there's more to come.
posted on 19/8/21
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 10 minutes ago
I get that Arsenal would struggle to attract the more 'sexier' names in football considering their position today, but I still find it baffling how they choose to invest. Odegaard is a good player, and Ramsdale is probably a decent keeper, but to spend around £60million when neither of them improves their gaping weaknesses in the team baffles me. And that's not even going into spending £50million on a defender who loses the majority of aerial duels.
We tear into Arteta and rightly so (let's be honest, he's been clueless), but Edu is currently stealing a living there. Completely shocking business from them this summer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blame the market and clubs like Chelsea who inflated the market with their money and players on high wages.
posted on 19/8/21
I’m sure there have been some form of protests but I’m just wondering why there hasn’t been (apologies if there has) serious levels of regular protesting / boycotting / crowd silence.
I feel for you guys and would much rather Arsenal be competing than the likes of City for example.
________________
Our owner has not interest in football. He understands football to raise this wealths.
Add that we made some mistakes in signing some flops which surely can be said for some clubs. Every clubs have signed them but in contrast the oil clubs dont care and signed more players.
It's not all about money though as the example of Leicester showing. It can be done. Not sure if Arsenal will recover under KSE and ever get back into the top 4.
posted on 19/8/21
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 10 minutes ago
I get that Arsenal would struggle to attract the more 'sexier' names in football considering their position today, but I still find it baffling how they choose to invest. Odegaard is a good player, and Ramsdale is probably a decent keeper, but to spend around £60million when neither of them improves their gaping weaknesses in the team baffles me. And that's not even going into spending £50million on a defender who loses the majority of aerial duels.
We tear into Arteta and rightly so (let's be honest, he's been clueless), but Edu is currently stealing a living there. Completely shocking business from them this summer.
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Blame the market and clubs like Chelsea who inflated the market with their money and players on high wages.
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Your net spend has been higher than ours the last 5 years and this year is looking no different. Next time instead of spouting rubbish just state the simple truth that Chelsea are better run than Arsenal.
Bank of England funding you again ffs what is this the 20th century?
posted on 19/8/21
The OP asks a very valid question, and the reality is that whilst there have been a number of very public protests against Kroenke, a lot of us have become numb to what's happening.
Realistically the vast majority of Arsenal fans want Kroenke out, but he's proved very difficult and is being slow to sell the club on.
The debacle with Emery / Arteta / Edu / Vinay etc etc is something that we have little control over.
Sorry state of affairs over here at the moment.
posted on 19/8/21
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
As I understand it, the stadium is totally paid for now
-------
This isn't true.
------
Yet you’re messing about buying players that haven’t been even close to good enough for your club
-----
Not sure thus is true either. We are out of Europe, never mind the CL, so that massively impacts the market we are shopping in. We have signed a lot of young players for mid range prices. It is a transition period, there will be hits and misses. But along with the youngsters we already have, I am confident the team will grow and improve.
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Yeah ok £144m to pay off still for the stadium, my point was that it isn’t a valid excuse as it was during Wengers final years after leaving Highbury.
I appreciate that not being in Europe will not help by any means but I don’t even recognise Arsenal anymore and it’s been slowly but steadily heading in that direction for the last ten years.
I just think you guys should be going absolutely mental every single game. And I’d actually love to have the old Arsenal back.
posted on 19/8/21
comment by NorthLondonGunner (U22220)
posted 50 minutes ago
The OP asks a very valid question, and the reality is that whilst there have been a number of very public protests against Kroenke, a lot of us have become numb to what's happening.
Realistically the vast majority of Arsenal fans want Kroenke out, but he's proved very difficult and is being slow to sell the club on.
The debacle with Emery / Arteta / Edu / Vinay etc etc is something that we have little control over.
Sorry state of affairs over here at the moment.
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Yeah numb - that’s a better way of expressing what I’m saying. It seems to me that it’s accepted now almost in a Spurs way 😂
posted on 19/8/21
Its not just this season in which Arsenal's spending has been wasteful.
Xhaka
Mustafi
Kolasinac
Sokratis
Ok some decent performances every now and then not what will get you Top 4.
Arsenal light years away from that now
posted on 19/8/21
Arsenal have spent an absolute fortune in recent years and have done so without having the revenue from the Champions League at any time. There is no reason to complain about the expenditure, but more that they've spent it on dross all too often.
posted on 19/8/21
Arsenal are the biggest spenders in English football.
There should be thank you Stan articles, not this rubbish.
posted on 19/8/21
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posted on 19/8/21
How is a keeper like Ramsdale going for £30m? Every year the transfer window gets more and more shambolic.
posted on 19/8/21
We've spent loads but we've spent it badly. With the funds we've spent a different regime could have had us fighting at the very top, unfortunately we've trusted the wrong people to deliver and we're drifting further back every season
posted on 19/8/21
For some reason a few of you seem to think I’m talking about money, I’m not.
I’m saying the quality of players brought in has been poor compared to what you deserve and should be getting and I’m wondering why as a fan base you’re not protesting massively every single week.
posted on 19/8/21
The fans are divided.
An anti Stan Kroenke protest turned into appluad the team bus
posted on 19/8/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 54 minutes ago
They spend fortunes, particularly considering they’ve had no CL since 2016. They’ve just been badly run on the football side of things - let Wenger drag his tenure out too long then the two managers since have been bang average. Put their faith in average players on long contracts and high wages etc. It’s been a death by a thousand cuts for Arsenal over a long period, rather than a sudden crisis, and I think as a result the fans have just been desensitized to the gradual decline. For them to finish 8th two years on the trot is really poor, and you can’t see them doing any better this season with that squad, manager and standard of opposition.
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This is it.
The first mistake was selling to Stan.
The second mistake was not firing Wenger years earlier.
The third and fourth mistakes were bringing in Emery and Arteta instead of top class, proven managers (Klopp, Ancelotti, Conte, Allegri etc), and also letting the club be run by novices like Edu, Vinay and co.
It's been a shambles for over a decade and we are a very dumb, inexperienced and poorly run club.
posted on 19/8/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
For some reason a few of you seem to think I’m talking about money, I’m not.
I’m saying the quality of players brought in has been poor compared to what you deserve and should be getting and I’m wondering why as a fan base you’re not protesting massively every single week.
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Did you write on of these after United bought Fred, Wan-Bissaka and Lindelof?
posted on 19/8/21
Arsenal should never have left Highbury.
They were already competing with the best.
Fans were sold a bunch of lies
posted on 19/8/21
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 10 minutes ago
I get that Arsenal would struggle to attract the more 'sexier' names in football considering their position today, but I still find it baffling how they choose to invest. Odegaard is a good player, and Ramsdale is probably a decent keeper, but to spend around £60million when neither of them improves their gaping weaknesses in the team baffles me. And that's not even going into spending £50million on a defender who loses the majority of aerial duels.
We tear into Arteta and rightly so (let's be honest, he's been clueless), but Edu is currently stealing a living there. Completely shocking business from them this summer.
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Blame the market and clubs like Chelsea who inflated the market with their money and players on high wages.
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Your net spend has been higher than ours the last 5 years and this year is looking no different. Next time instead of spouting rubbish just state the simple truth that Chelsea are better run than Arsenal.
Bank of England funding you again ffs what is this the 20th century?
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Why so rude? You have got an owner that is interested. We have an owner that wants to make money.
My comment refers to the whole KSE regime that include more than 5 years. The club run from zero to 100 when Roman came in. So in so far money brought you success.
We spend money all those years but not in the same frame as the KSE loaned us the money.
posted on 19/8/21
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 57 minutes ago
How is a keeper like Ramsdale going for £30m? Every year the transfer window gets more and more shambolic.
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He cost 24M
posted on 19/8/21
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 4 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 57 minutes ago
How is a keeper like Ramsdale going for £30m? Every year the transfer window gets more and more shambolic.
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He cost 24M
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+6m in add ons for games played and avoiding relegation
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