The problem (one of many) with Levy is that if he can get a good fee for a player like Toby or Dembele he'll take it for financial reasons.
So because of this we end up selling players who could still be useful, while keeping players like Sissoko, Winks and Sanchez because we can't get a price that Levy is happy with.
comment by Sharteta (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Getting rid of players is incredibly difficult when they're shiiite and often overpaid.
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Arsenal would know all about that
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 3 minutes ago
The problem (one of many) with Levy is that if he can get a good fee for a player like Toby or Dembele he'll take it for financial reasons.
So because of this we end up selling players who could still be useful, while keeping players like Sissoko, Winks and Sanchez because we can't get a price that Levy is happy with.
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Sanchez is fine. Why would you want to get rid of him?
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 3 minutes ago
The problem (one of many) with Levy is that if he can get a good fee for a player like Toby or Dembele he'll take it for financial reasons.
So because of this we end up selling players who could still be useful, while keeping players like Sissoko, Winks and Sanchez because we can't get a price that Levy is happy with.
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Sanchez is fine. Why would you want to get rid of him?
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Come on Sandy we can do better than Sanchez. He's been here four years and we still can't rely on him.
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comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 17 minutes ago
He might not have wanted to leave to go to Everton though. He could move to somebody like Palace for example, the attractive prospect there is that he wouldn't have to relocate (or relocate very far) because it's on the other side of London essentially to Spurs.
There are a variety of factors as to why somebody wouldn't want to move clubs. Sometimes that's just the issue with players at this stage. Ultimately it would take another season or two to move somebody like Winks on, but coming through the academy at Spurs and looking at the squad as it is now, he has an opportunity to play for the club he came through at on a regular-ish basis, why would he want to move?
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I would prefer to loan him - see if he likes the loan club and then he might be more willing to go next summer.
We all want loyalty from players so why shouldn’t they expect some back from us.
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Still have the same issue though, if a player doesn't want to leave the club then he probably wouldn't want a loan move away either. I think a lot of Spurs players want to attempt to right the wrongs of last season and prove they are good enough for the squad really.
The one's that will be easiest to move on will be your Cameron Carter-Vickers and Jack Clarke's for example who have come through the youth set up but want regular game time elsewhere. Winks has been in the first team squad for a fair few years now so he probably believes he's good enough.
Am I the only one in thinking that the sooner we go out of this ridiculous Europa conference league, the better...
Pointless tournament... it’s blatantly obvious that some of our squad players are useless...
Last nights defeat will just highlight the need for better quality players to be signed, so that’s a good thing...
We must have more deadwood than any other club, surely?
I can name at least 7 or 8... we all know who they are..,
Plus why have we still only got just the one centre forward, with only 11 days in the transfer window left...
Also blatantly obvious that Kane isn’t going to be sold this year...but we still need a partner/back up for him...
Especially with cup games coming up...with if Kane gets another injury?!!!
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 17 minutes ago
He might not have wanted to leave to go to Everton though. He could move to somebody like Palace for example, the attractive prospect there is that he wouldn't have to relocate (or relocate very far) because it's on the other side of London essentially to Spurs.
There are a variety of factors as to why somebody wouldn't want to move clubs. Sometimes that's just the issue with players at this stage. Ultimately it would take another season or two to move somebody like Winks on, but coming through the academy at Spurs and looking at the squad as it is now, he has an opportunity to play for the club he came through at on a regular-ish basis, why would he want to move?
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I would prefer to loan him - see if he likes the loan club and then he might be more willing to go next summer.
We all want loyalty from players so why shouldn’t they expect some back from us.
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Still have the same issue though, if a player doesn't want to leave the club then he probably wouldn't want a loan move away either. I think a lot of Spurs players want to attempt to right the wrongs of last season and prove they are good enough for the squad really.
The one's that will be easiest to move on will be your Cameron Carter-Vickers and Jack Clarke's for example who have come through the youth set up but want regular game time elsewhere. Winks has been in the first team squad for a fair few years now so he probably believes he's good enough.
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I think loans are different because players see them as a chance to prove themselves and get back in the team. Winks could really benefit from a year at a lower PL team and then either we sell him for a better fee or he comes back full of confidence and feeling sharp thanks to a year playing in the first team.
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 17 minutes ago
He might not have wanted to leave to go to Everton though. He could move to somebody like Palace for example, the attractive prospect there is that he wouldn't have to relocate (or relocate very far) because it's on the other side of London essentially to Spurs.
There are a variety of factors as to why somebody wouldn't want to move clubs. Sometimes that's just the issue with players at this stage. Ultimately it would take another season or two to move somebody like Winks on, but coming through the academy at Spurs and looking at the squad as it is now, he has an opportunity to play for the club he came through at on a regular-ish basis, why would he want to move?
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I would prefer to loan him - see if he likes the loan club and then he might be more willing to go next summer.
We all want loyalty from players so why shouldn’t they expect some back from us.
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Exactly!
When a club hands a contract out the player has as much right to expect it to be honoured as the club, you can’t hold star players to them yet expect lesser ones to just bail when it suits.
I remember Joe Cole getting dogs abuse after we signed him on a free.
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 10 minutes ago
With the likes of sissoko and Aurier we just need to accept the best offer we can, we'd be able to get a good price for Winks as his English.
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Eddie, Spurs will get nothing for Winks as it stands, he is totally useless, and other clubs can see that as well. That is why no club has come in for him.
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Didn't Everton get linked with him a few weeks back?
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That love Island lass and now Everton? Poor old Winksy. Getting blown out more times than a wind sock. For some reason I couldn't get on here this morning before work, I don't know if the website was down, it stopped me putting up an article about Winks anyway. I can't believe how bad he's been. I'll cut the youngsters and the new boys some slack but some players need calling out. It's unacceptable.
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 10 minutes ago
With the likes of sissoko and Aurier we just need to accept the best offer we can, we'd be able to get a good price for Winks as his English.
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Eddie, Spurs will get nothing for Winks as it stands, he is totally useless, and other clubs can see that as well. That is why no club has come in for him.
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Didn't Everton get linked with him a few weeks back?
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That love Island lass and now Everton? Poor old Winksy. Getting blown out more times than a wind sock. For some reason I couldn't get on here this morning before work, I don't know if the website was down, it stopped me putting up an article about Winks anyway. I can't believe how bad he's been. I'll cut the youngsters and the new boys some slack but some players need calling out. It's unacceptable.
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A player severely lacking in confidence can appear to not be trying, which to be fair may be the case with Winks.
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 17 minutes ago
He might not have wanted to leave to go to Everton though. He could move to somebody like Palace for example, the attractive prospect there is that he wouldn't have to relocate (or relocate very far) because it's on the other side of London essentially to Spurs.
There are a variety of factors as to why somebody wouldn't want to move clubs. Sometimes that's just the issue with players at this stage. Ultimately it would take another season or two to move somebody like Winks on, but coming through the academy at Spurs and looking at the squad as it is now, he has an opportunity to play for the club he came through at on a regular-ish basis, why would he want to move?
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I would prefer to loan him - see if he likes the loan club and then he might be more willing to go next summer.
We all want loyalty from players so why shouldn’t they expect some back from us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Still have the same issue though, if a player doesn't want to leave the club then he probably wouldn't want a loan move away either. I think a lot of Spurs players want to attempt to right the wrongs of last season and prove they are good enough for the squad really.
The one's that will be easiest to move on will be your Cameron Carter-Vickers and Jack Clarke's for example who have come through the youth set up but want regular game time elsewhere. Winks has been in the first team squad for a fair few years now so he probably believes he's good enough.
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I think loans are different because players see them as a chance to prove themselves and get back in the team. Winks could really benefit from a year at a lower PL team and then either we sell him for a better fee or he comes back full of confidence and feeling sharp thanks to a year playing in the first team.
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I agree and in terms of the footballing side, it probably would be the ideal move for Winks now on the surface.
Of course there are other factors we do not know about, who knows what Nuno has said/promised and I don't doubt Winks probably feels as if he's got something to prove in the Spurs side under a new manager as well. Unless Nuno has said he's specifically not in his plans, I can't see him moving on this summer personally, not even on loan.
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 10 minutes ago
With the likes of sissoko and Aurier we just need to accept the best offer we can, we'd be able to get a good price for Winks as his English.
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Eddie, Spurs will get nothing for Winks as it stands, he is totally useless, and other clubs can see that as well. That is why no club has come in for him.
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Didn't Everton get linked with him a few weeks back?
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That love Island lass and now Everton? Poor old Winksy. Getting blown out more times than a wind sock. For some reason I couldn't get on here this morning before work, I don't know if the website was down, it stopped me putting up an article about Winks anyway. I can't believe how bad he's been. I'll cut the youngsters and the new boys some slack but some players need calling out. It's unacceptable.
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A player severely lacking in confidence can appear to not be trying, which to be fair may be the case with Winks.
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With all the will on the planet Winks will never get to the level we need. He's 25 but still looks about 15. He hasn't got the strength in his legs to get near anyone let alone being able to hold players up. We need more from a player in his position. It's no wonder we're looking for replacements.
We never getting done with our Business.
Such a joke.
We would have said all of this with the likes of Adebayor, Paulinho, Soldado, Capoue etc. We'll do it, just may take a bit longer in this climate.
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Sharteta (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Getting rid of players is incredibly difficult when they're shiiite and often overpaid.
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Arsenal would know all about that
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Yes very well, that's why I said it
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posted on 20/8/21
The problem (one of many) with Levy is that if he can get a good fee for a player like Toby or Dembele he'll take it for financial reasons.
So because of this we end up selling players who could still be useful, while keeping players like Sissoko, Winks and Sanchez because we can't get a price that Levy is happy with.
posted on 20/8/21
comment by Sharteta (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Getting rid of players is incredibly difficult when they're shiiite and often overpaid.
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Arsenal would know all about that
posted on 20/8/21
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 3 minutes ago
The problem (one of many) with Levy is that if he can get a good fee for a player like Toby or Dembele he'll take it for financial reasons.
So because of this we end up selling players who could still be useful, while keeping players like Sissoko, Winks and Sanchez because we can't get a price that Levy is happy with.
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Sanchez is fine. Why would you want to get rid of him?
posted on 20/8/21
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 3 minutes ago
The problem (one of many) with Levy is that if he can get a good fee for a player like Toby or Dembele he'll take it for financial reasons.
So because of this we end up selling players who could still be useful, while keeping players like Sissoko, Winks and Sanchez because we can't get a price that Levy is happy with.
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Sanchez is fine. Why would you want to get rid of him?
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Come on Sandy we can do better than Sanchez. He's been here four years and we still can't rely on him.
posted on 20/8/21
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posted on 20/8/21
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 17 minutes ago
He might not have wanted to leave to go to Everton though. He could move to somebody like Palace for example, the attractive prospect there is that he wouldn't have to relocate (or relocate very far) because it's on the other side of London essentially to Spurs.
There are a variety of factors as to why somebody wouldn't want to move clubs. Sometimes that's just the issue with players at this stage. Ultimately it would take another season or two to move somebody like Winks on, but coming through the academy at Spurs and looking at the squad as it is now, he has an opportunity to play for the club he came through at on a regular-ish basis, why would he want to move?
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I would prefer to loan him - see if he likes the loan club and then he might be more willing to go next summer.
We all want loyalty from players so why shouldn’t they expect some back from us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Still have the same issue though, if a player doesn't want to leave the club then he probably wouldn't want a loan move away either. I think a lot of Spurs players want to attempt to right the wrongs of last season and prove they are good enough for the squad really.
The one's that will be easiest to move on will be your Cameron Carter-Vickers and Jack Clarke's for example who have come through the youth set up but want regular game time elsewhere. Winks has been in the first team squad for a fair few years now so he probably believes he's good enough.
posted on 20/8/21
Am I the only one in thinking that the sooner we go out of this ridiculous Europa conference league, the better...
Pointless tournament... it’s blatantly obvious that some of our squad players are useless...
Last nights defeat will just highlight the need for better quality players to be signed, so that’s a good thing...
We must have more deadwood than any other club, surely?
I can name at least 7 or 8... we all know who they are..,
Plus why have we still only got just the one centre forward, with only 11 days in the transfer window left...
Also blatantly obvious that Kane isn’t going to be sold this year...but we still need a partner/back up for him...
Especially with cup games coming up...with if Kane gets another injury?!!!
posted on 20/8/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 17 minutes ago
He might not have wanted to leave to go to Everton though. He could move to somebody like Palace for example, the attractive prospect there is that he wouldn't have to relocate (or relocate very far) because it's on the other side of London essentially to Spurs.
There are a variety of factors as to why somebody wouldn't want to move clubs. Sometimes that's just the issue with players at this stage. Ultimately it would take another season or two to move somebody like Winks on, but coming through the academy at Spurs and looking at the squad as it is now, he has an opportunity to play for the club he came through at on a regular-ish basis, why would he want to move?
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I would prefer to loan him - see if he likes the loan club and then he might be more willing to go next summer.
We all want loyalty from players so why shouldn’t they expect some back from us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Still have the same issue though, if a player doesn't want to leave the club then he probably wouldn't want a loan move away either. I think a lot of Spurs players want to attempt to right the wrongs of last season and prove they are good enough for the squad really.
The one's that will be easiest to move on will be your Cameron Carter-Vickers and Jack Clarke's for example who have come through the youth set up but want regular game time elsewhere. Winks has been in the first team squad for a fair few years now so he probably believes he's good enough.
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I think loans are different because players see them as a chance to prove themselves and get back in the team. Winks could really benefit from a year at a lower PL team and then either we sell him for a better fee or he comes back full of confidence and feeling sharp thanks to a year playing in the first team.
posted on 20/8/21
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 17 minutes ago
He might not have wanted to leave to go to Everton though. He could move to somebody like Palace for example, the attractive prospect there is that he wouldn't have to relocate (or relocate very far) because it's on the other side of London essentially to Spurs.
There are a variety of factors as to why somebody wouldn't want to move clubs. Sometimes that's just the issue with players at this stage. Ultimately it would take another season or two to move somebody like Winks on, but coming through the academy at Spurs and looking at the squad as it is now, he has an opportunity to play for the club he came through at on a regular-ish basis, why would he want to move?
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I would prefer to loan him - see if he likes the loan club and then he might be more willing to go next summer.
We all want loyalty from players so why shouldn’t they expect some back from us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly!
When a club hands a contract out the player has as much right to expect it to be honoured as the club, you can’t hold star players to them yet expect lesser ones to just bail when it suits.
I remember Joe Cole getting dogs abuse after we signed him on a free.
posted on 20/8/21
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 10 minutes ago
With the likes of sissoko and Aurier we just need to accept the best offer we can, we'd be able to get a good price for Winks as his English.
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Eddie, Spurs will get nothing for Winks as it stands, he is totally useless, and other clubs can see that as well. That is why no club has come in for him.
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Didn't Everton get linked with him a few weeks back?
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That love Island lass and now Everton? Poor old Winksy. Getting blown out more times than a wind sock. For some reason I couldn't get on here this morning before work, I don't know if the website was down, it stopped me putting up an article about Winks anyway. I can't believe how bad he's been. I'll cut the youngsters and the new boys some slack but some players need calling out. It's unacceptable.
posted on 20/8/21
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 10 minutes ago
With the likes of sissoko and Aurier we just need to accept the best offer we can, we'd be able to get a good price for Winks as his English.
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Eddie, Spurs will get nothing for Winks as it stands, he is totally useless, and other clubs can see that as well. That is why no club has come in for him.
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Didn't Everton get linked with him a few weeks back?
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That love Island lass and now Everton? Poor old Winksy. Getting blown out more times than a wind sock. For some reason I couldn't get on here this morning before work, I don't know if the website was down, it stopped me putting up an article about Winks anyway. I can't believe how bad he's been. I'll cut the youngsters and the new boys some slack but some players need calling out. It's unacceptable.
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A player severely lacking in confidence can appear to not be trying, which to be fair may be the case with Winks.
posted on 20/8/21
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 17 minutes ago
He might not have wanted to leave to go to Everton though. He could move to somebody like Palace for example, the attractive prospect there is that he wouldn't have to relocate (or relocate very far) because it's on the other side of London essentially to Spurs.
There are a variety of factors as to why somebody wouldn't want to move clubs. Sometimes that's just the issue with players at this stage. Ultimately it would take another season or two to move somebody like Winks on, but coming through the academy at Spurs and looking at the squad as it is now, he has an opportunity to play for the club he came through at on a regular-ish basis, why would he want to move?
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I would prefer to loan him - see if he likes the loan club and then he might be more willing to go next summer.
We all want loyalty from players so why shouldn’t they expect some back from us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Still have the same issue though, if a player doesn't want to leave the club then he probably wouldn't want a loan move away either. I think a lot of Spurs players want to attempt to right the wrongs of last season and prove they are good enough for the squad really.
The one's that will be easiest to move on will be your Cameron Carter-Vickers and Jack Clarke's for example who have come through the youth set up but want regular game time elsewhere. Winks has been in the first team squad for a fair few years now so he probably believes he's good enough.
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I think loans are different because players see them as a chance to prove themselves and get back in the team. Winks could really benefit from a year at a lower PL team and then either we sell him for a better fee or he comes back full of confidence and feeling sharp thanks to a year playing in the first team.
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I agree and in terms of the footballing side, it probably would be the ideal move for Winks now on the surface.
Of course there are other factors we do not know about, who knows what Nuno has said/promised and I don't doubt Winks probably feels as if he's got something to prove in the Spurs side under a new manager as well. Unless Nuno has said he's specifically not in his plans, I can't see him moving on this summer personally, not even on loan.
posted on 20/8/21
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 10 minutes ago
With the likes of sissoko and Aurier we just need to accept the best offer we can, we'd be able to get a good price for Winks as his English.
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Eddie, Spurs will get nothing for Winks as it stands, he is totally useless, and other clubs can see that as well. That is why no club has come in for him.
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Didn't Everton get linked with him a few weeks back?
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That love Island lass and now Everton? Poor old Winksy. Getting blown out more times than a wind sock. For some reason I couldn't get on here this morning before work, I don't know if the website was down, it stopped me putting up an article about Winks anyway. I can't believe how bad he's been. I'll cut the youngsters and the new boys some slack but some players need calling out. It's unacceptable.
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A player severely lacking in confidence can appear to not be trying, which to be fair may be the case with Winks.
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With all the will on the planet Winks will never get to the level we need. He's 25 but still looks about 15. He hasn't got the strength in his legs to get near anyone let alone being able to hold players up. We need more from a player in his position. It's no wonder we're looking for replacements.
posted on 20/8/21
We never getting done with our Business.
Such a joke.
posted on 20/8/21
We would have said all of this with the likes of Adebayor, Paulinho, Soldado, Capoue etc. We'll do it, just may take a bit longer in this climate.
posted on 20/8/21
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Sharteta (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Getting rid of players is incredibly difficult when they're shiiite and often overpaid.
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Arsenal would know all about that
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Yes very well, that's why I said it
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