In this hypothetical situation, what exactly have you won and done, and why does it make you someone in football? Is it more than an Intertoto, SPL title, and two FA Cups?
"In this hypothetical situation, what exactly have you won and done, and why does it make you someone in football? Is it more than an Intertoto, SPL title, and two FA Cups?"
My immediate thought too. People who think they know better than their boss (who is well respected by his actual peers) are just part of the problem really.
I have to say that the club's decision not to sack him this summer would have had me calling all the boys round to mine before the season even started in a genuine attempt to get all to refuse to play until Arteta is sacked.
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Isn't this happening already judging by the performances
comment by ARSENAL NIL (U22503)
posted 7 minutes ago
I have to say that the club's decision not to sack him this summer would have had me calling all the boys round to mine before the season even started in a genuine attempt to get all to refuse to play until Arteta is sacked.
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Isn't this happening already judging by the performances
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I reckon WB2 is aubameyang
comment by SuperFrank (U15103)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by ARSENAL NIL (U22503)
posted 7 minutes ago
I have to say that the club's decision not to sack him this summer would have had me calling all the boys round to mine before the season even started in a genuine attempt to get all to refuse to play until Arteta is sacked.
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Isn't this happening already judging by the performances
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I reckon WB2 is aubameyang
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Arteta still has a job so you know for sure I'm not Auba.
"If You Were An Arsenal Player"
Any one of us could get in that team at the moment.
Henry, Lubo
Doesn't really matter what you as the player have won. Arteta's arrogance is unwarranted. As a rookie manager only 3 years a coach and taking his first management job had NO BUSINESS rocking up shouting odds swaggering around the place as though he's some top draw manager who's already done it all.
Whether he was talking to the lowliest rookie or title winning vets. He was damned out of order because he does not have the experience to adopt the attitude he did. I shouldn't need to explain why behaving that way when you ain't done sh !t is very different thing to behaving that way when you can actually back it up with results and trophies. At least the latter has you as a player annoyed AF by the rude git but lovin them trophies he's got you winning. What's Arteta got? Just rudeness arrogance and the worst starting loss record in PL history. He can't walk the walk to be talking to people like that so he shoulda wound his feckin neck in and I'd certainly have no problem telling him to. Fecker needed a reality check and putting in his goddamn place early. And imo the senior players on this team were/are gutless for not doing it. If they had have then he might just have stopped being a complete ass long enough to start winning games.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 4 minutes ago
"If You Were An Arsenal Player"
Any one of us could get in that team at the moment.
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Bags Goalie, not because I'm any good at it but because I wanna tell him to go feck himself when he tries to make me play out. I'd punt EVERY ball, see if I can hit him in the head from my area
comment by WB2 {Tackle Like Tierney} (U8276)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 4 minutes ago
"If You Were An Arsenal Player"
Any one of us could get in that team at the moment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bags Goalie, not because I'm any good at it but because I wanna tell him to go feck himself when he tries to make me play out. I'd punt EVERY ball, see if I can hit him in the head from my area
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Bring your boots on Saturday
So in other words you'd just be the player who would believe he is above the manager? You'd be one of the first one's to leave the club.
At the end of the day, these are professional people, vary rarely do you ever call your own manager out to the world or even to your teammates publically. It probably reflects worse on the player than the manager.
If you think of Jose at Chelsea part II, they won the league and then the players started to question Jose's methods and effectively rebelled against him lead by a few ring leaders....and thats Jose, with a wealth of success behind him.
Arteta has nothing. I am amazed that the players have kept faith with him because whatever he's doing its is not working out on the pitch. He must talk a fecking good game
I can most assuredly say I'd probably
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I'm still struggling with this part.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 23 hours, 16 minutes ago
So in other words you'd just be the player who would believe he is above the manager? You'd be one of the first one's to leave the club.
At the end of the day, these are professional people, vary rarely do you ever call your own manager out to the world or even to your teammates publically. It probably reflects worse on the player than the manager.
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No, I'd be the player standing up for the rookies and youngsters Arteta's ruining the careers of, the one standing up for the PL identity and Ethos of PL Arsenal that Arteta is sh !tting all over.
I'd be the one calling out the failure elephant in the room everyone's pretending they can't see. And the one making it clear to all who heard me, this was not about me and my ego but the team and what it needed, stating my love for the club and wish to stay as I done it..
Explaining how the results were only so poor because morale was so low because none of us wanted to play for this manager anymore. That results couldn't improve until he was gone.
And most of all I'd be the one who had enough balls to say out loud to ke, Edu and Arteta's faces what every other player is thinking and feeling but too young or gutless to say it themselves.
When you do something like this the right way, it's called leadership and the distinct lack of it in the AFC team has also been a massive contributor to Arteta getting his way and getting to stay.
comment by WB2 {Tackle Like Tierney} (U8276)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 23 hours, 16 minutes ago
So in other words you'd just be the player who would believe he is above the manager? You'd be one of the first one's to leave the club.
At the end of the day, these are professional people, vary rarely do you ever call your own manager out to the world or even to your teammates publically. It probably reflects worse on the player than the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I'd be the player standing up for the rookies and youngsters Arteta's ruining the careers of, the one standing up for the PL identity and Ethos of PL Arsenal that Arteta is sh !tting all over.
I'd be the one calling out the failure elephant in the room everyone's pretending they can't see. And the one making it clear to all who heard me, this was not about me and my ego but the team and what it needed, stating my love for the club and wish to stay as I done it..
Explaining how the results were only so poor because morale was so low because none of us wanted to play for this manager anymore. That results couldn't improve until he was gone.
And most of all I'd be the one who had enough balls to say out loud toke, Edu and Arteta's faces what every other player is thinking and feeling but too young or gutless to say it themselves.
When you do something like this the right way, it's called leadership and the distinct lack of it in the AFC team has also been a massive contributor to Arteta getting his way and getting to stay.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think your issues run even deeper than just Arteta at the helm though as well, difficult to pin it just on him really.
There are also many different ways of being a spokesperson and having a difficult conversation about somebody without causing major issues within a squad, as the last thing any team needs is confrontation in public.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 hours, 44 minutes ago
If you think of Jose at Chelsea part II, they won the league and then the players started to question Jose's methods and effectively rebelled against him lead by a few ring leaders....and thats Jose, with a wealth of success behind him.
Arteta has nothing. I am amazed that the players have kept faith with him because whatever he's doing its is not working out on the pitch. He must talk a fecking good game
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That's just it they haven't kept faith they've long lost it, THAT'S why we keep losing and why last season was so dire, they lost faith in Arteta by halfway through last season at the latest (when he actually should have been sacked). For some reason people just keep pretending they haven't and it's somehow possible for that idiot to turn this around. It isn't because the players are all long past listening to or believing in him.
They couldn't give a toss what he has to say and they think he's full of sh !t. They'll turn up and they'll train and they'll play but nobody's heart is in it because they're all sat there thinking "Feck this and him, until he's sacked I can't be assed."
comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 18 hours, 51 minutes ago
I can most assuredly say I'd probably
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I'm still struggling with this part.
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Hold up, it's the grammar police! Ya got me guv, caught red-handed
I think your issues run even deeper than just Arteta at the helm though as well, difficult to pin it just on him really.
There are also many different ways of being a spokesperson and having a difficult conversation about somebody without causing major issues within a squad, as the last thing any team needs is confrontation in public.
----------------------------------------------------
For sure we have more issues than just Arteta but for now Arteta is the critical issue killing the club in a hurry. He's gotten and is still getting a pass because people keep blaming all this on player quality and allowing him to do the same. Fans and pundits for that matter need to remember that ALL of the decisions that hurt this team on the pitch last season were made by Arteta. Selling Emi, benching Ains and Guen, strangling Partey's original MF game, repeatedly playing Bellerin, the list goes on.
The way people keep talking about players being crap, you'd think the useless had come out all last season providing top notch transfer conduct, team selection, along with outstanding matchday strategy and game management. But the players were all just too rubbish to execute his brilliant vision of football. That's not it, what actually happened was HE fecked up bigtime early on then kept doubling down on his feck up all season long, because he was and still is too arrogant to admit he is wrong and fix it.
At the end of last season the Arsenal fanbase allowed Arteta to spin the narrative publicly and to Josh and Stan. Instead of the True narrative which was "Arteta's shockingly incompetent decisions result in massive failure," it became "The players aren't good enough." I expect the buy-in to the lie from two dumb yanks too ignorant about football to know better. But the Arsenal fanbase has no excuse because unlike Josh and Stan not only do we know better in footy principle, but we actually WITNESSED every single one of the ps poor decisions Arteta made and exactly what consequences they bore. Saw it before a ball was kicked too. Yet somehow my fellow gooners keep letting Arteta get away with it. Weak,
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posted on 7/9/21
In this hypothetical situation, what exactly have you won and done, and why does it make you someone in football? Is it more than an Intertoto, SPL title, and two FA Cups?
posted on 7/9/21
"In this hypothetical situation, what exactly have you won and done, and why does it make you someone in football? Is it more than an Intertoto, SPL title, and two FA Cups?"
My immediate thought too. People who think they know better than their boss (who is well respected by his actual peers) are just part of the problem really.
posted on 7/9/21
I have to say that the club's decision not to sack him this summer would have had me calling all the boys round to mine before the season even started in a genuine attempt to get all to refuse to play until Arteta is sacked.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't this happening already judging by the performances
posted on 7/9/21
comment by ARSENAL NIL (U22503)
posted 7 minutes ago
I have to say that the club's decision not to sack him this summer would have had me calling all the boys round to mine before the season even started in a genuine attempt to get all to refuse to play until Arteta is sacked.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't this happening already judging by the performances
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I reckon WB2 is aubameyang
posted on 7/9/21
comment by SuperFrank (U15103)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by ARSENAL NIL (U22503)
posted 7 minutes ago
I have to say that the club's decision not to sack him this summer would have had me calling all the boys round to mine before the season even started in a genuine attempt to get all to refuse to play until Arteta is sacked.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't this happening already judging by the performances
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I reckon WB2 is aubameyang
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arteta still has a job so you know for sure I'm not Auba.
posted on 7/9/21
"If You Were An Arsenal Player"
Any one of us could get in that team at the moment.
posted on 7/9/21
Henry, Lubo
Doesn't really matter what you as the player have won. Arteta's arrogance is unwarranted. As a rookie manager only 3 years a coach and taking his first management job had NO BUSINESS rocking up shouting odds swaggering around the place as though he's some top draw manager who's already done it all.
Whether he was talking to the lowliest rookie or title winning vets. He was damned out of order because he does not have the experience to adopt the attitude he did. I shouldn't need to explain why behaving that way when you ain't done sh !t is very different thing to behaving that way when you can actually back it up with results and trophies. At least the latter has you as a player annoyed AF by the rude git but lovin them trophies he's got you winning. What's Arteta got? Just rudeness arrogance and the worst starting loss record in PL history. He can't walk the walk to be talking to people like that so he shoulda wound his feckin neck in and I'd certainly have no problem telling him to. Fecker needed a reality check and putting in his goddamn place early. And imo the senior players on this team were/are gutless for not doing it. If they had have then he might just have stopped being a complete ass long enough to start winning games.
posted on 7/9/21
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 4 minutes ago
"If You Were An Arsenal Player"
Any one of us could get in that team at the moment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bags Goalie, not because I'm any good at it but because I wanna tell him to go feck himself when he tries to make me play out. I'd punt EVERY ball, see if I can hit him in the head from my area
posted on 7/9/21
comment by WB2 {Tackle Like Tierney} (U8276)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 4 minutes ago
"If You Were An Arsenal Player"
Any one of us could get in that team at the moment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bags Goalie, not because I'm any good at it but because I wanna tell him to go feck himself when he tries to make me play out. I'd punt EVERY ball, see if I can hit him in the head from my area
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bring your boots on Saturday
posted on 7/9/21
So in other words you'd just be the player who would believe he is above the manager? You'd be one of the first one's to leave the club.
At the end of the day, these are professional people, vary rarely do you ever call your own manager out to the world or even to your teammates publically. It probably reflects worse on the player than the manager.
posted on 7/9/21
If you think of Jose at Chelsea part II, they won the league and then the players started to question Jose's methods and effectively rebelled against him lead by a few ring leaders....and thats Jose, with a wealth of success behind him.
Arteta has nothing. I am amazed that the players have kept faith with him because whatever he's doing its is not working out on the pitch. He must talk a fecking good game
posted on 7/9/21
I can most assuredly say I'd probably
----------
I'm still struggling with this part.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 23 hours, 16 minutes ago
So in other words you'd just be the player who would believe he is above the manager? You'd be one of the first one's to leave the club.
At the end of the day, these are professional people, vary rarely do you ever call your own manager out to the world or even to your teammates publically. It probably reflects worse on the player than the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I'd be the player standing up for the rookies and youngsters Arteta's ruining the careers of, the one standing up for the PL identity and Ethos of PL Arsenal that Arteta is sh !tting all over.
I'd be the one calling out the failure elephant in the room everyone's pretending they can't see. And the one making it clear to all who heard me, this was not about me and my ego but the team and what it needed, stating my love for the club and wish to stay as I done it..
Explaining how the results were only so poor because morale was so low because none of us wanted to play for this manager anymore. That results couldn't improve until he was gone.
And most of all I'd be the one who had enough balls to say out loud to ke, Edu and Arteta's faces what every other player is thinking and feeling but too young or gutless to say it themselves.
When you do something like this the right way, it's called leadership and the distinct lack of it in the AFC team has also been a massive contributor to Arteta getting his way and getting to stay.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by WB2 {Tackle Like Tierney} (U8276)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 23 hours, 16 minutes ago
So in other words you'd just be the player who would believe he is above the manager? You'd be one of the first one's to leave the club.
At the end of the day, these are professional people, vary rarely do you ever call your own manager out to the world or even to your teammates publically. It probably reflects worse on the player than the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I'd be the player standing up for the rookies and youngsters Arteta's ruining the careers of, the one standing up for the PL identity and Ethos of PL Arsenal that Arteta is sh !tting all over.
I'd be the one calling out the failure elephant in the room everyone's pretending they can't see. And the one making it clear to all who heard me, this was not about me and my ego but the team and what it needed, stating my love for the club and wish to stay as I done it..
Explaining how the results were only so poor because morale was so low because none of us wanted to play for this manager anymore. That results couldn't improve until he was gone.
And most of all I'd be the one who had enough balls to say out loud toke, Edu and Arteta's faces what every other player is thinking and feeling but too young or gutless to say it themselves.
When you do something like this the right way, it's called leadership and the distinct lack of it in the AFC team has also been a massive contributor to Arteta getting his way and getting to stay.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think your issues run even deeper than just Arteta at the helm though as well, difficult to pin it just on him really.
There are also many different ways of being a spokesperson and having a difficult conversation about somebody without causing major issues within a squad, as the last thing any team needs is confrontation in public.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 hours, 44 minutes ago
If you think of Jose at Chelsea part II, they won the league and then the players started to question Jose's methods and effectively rebelled against him lead by a few ring leaders....and thats Jose, with a wealth of success behind him.
Arteta has nothing. I am amazed that the players have kept faith with him because whatever he's doing its is not working out on the pitch. He must talk a fecking good game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's just it they haven't kept faith they've long lost it, THAT'S why we keep losing and why last season was so dire, they lost faith in Arteta by halfway through last season at the latest (when he actually should have been sacked). For some reason people just keep pretending they haven't and it's somehow possible for that idiot to turn this around. It isn't because the players are all long past listening to or believing in him.
They couldn't give a toss what he has to say and they think he's full of sh !t. They'll turn up and they'll train and they'll play but nobody's heart is in it because they're all sat there thinking "Feck this and him, until he's sacked I can't be assed."
posted on 8/9/21
comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 18 hours, 51 minutes ago
I can most assuredly say I'd probably
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I'm still struggling with this part.
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Hold up, it's the grammar police! Ya got me guv, caught red-handed
posted on 8/9/21
I think your issues run even deeper than just Arteta at the helm though as well, difficult to pin it just on him really.
There are also many different ways of being a spokesperson and having a difficult conversation about somebody without causing major issues within a squad, as the last thing any team needs is confrontation in public.
----------------------------------------------------
For sure we have more issues than just Arteta but for now Arteta is the critical issue killing the club in a hurry. He's gotten and is still getting a pass because people keep blaming all this on player quality and allowing him to do the same. Fans and pundits for that matter need to remember that ALL of the decisions that hurt this team on the pitch last season were made by Arteta. Selling Emi, benching Ains and Guen, strangling Partey's original MF game, repeatedly playing Bellerin, the list goes on.
The way people keep talking about players being crap, you'd think the useless had come out all last season providing top notch transfer conduct, team selection, along with outstanding matchday strategy and game management. But the players were all just too rubbish to execute his brilliant vision of football. That's not it, what actually happened was HE fecked up bigtime early on then kept doubling down on his feck up all season long, because he was and still is too arrogant to admit he is wrong and fix it.
At the end of last season the Arsenal fanbase allowed Arteta to spin the narrative publicly and to Josh and Stan. Instead of the True narrative which was "Arteta's shockingly incompetent decisions result in massive failure," it became "The players aren't good enough." I expect the buy-in to the lie from two dumb yanks too ignorant about football to know better. But the Arsenal fanbase has no excuse because unlike Josh and Stan not only do we know better in footy principle, but we actually WITNESSED every single one of the ps poor decisions Arteta made and exactly what consequences they bore. Saw it before a ball was kicked too. Yet somehow my fellow gooners keep letting Arteta get away with it. Weak,
posted on 9/9/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 9/9/21
Just don't let Arteta get close to the Arsenal Women's team, they know how to win!
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