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The Ole outers are more furious at Ole for taking the job than the guys who offered it him. How can anyone blame Ole for taking the job he was never qualified for? We'd have all taken it too. Of course we would.
Start looking at the real problem. The Glazers and Woodward have ruined us. They will continue to ruin us under Glazers / Arnold regime. We can change the manager of course and hope things get better and I'm sure Ole will get the chop soon too. However nothing fundamentally will change until these parasites are gone.
Credit to the scousers. They knew Hicks and Gillete had to go and they got their wish. We need to get these tw**** out before there's nothing left to cling to.
Don't blame Ole for 8 years of failure when he's only been here 3. The rot had set in long before yet nobody wants to admit it.
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You seem to be arguing a point nobody is making mate.
The owners aren’t going anywhere, where as a change of manager can happen.
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Great stuff. A change of manager has happened 4 times and nothing is changing but the initials on the manager's office.
If that's all we can hope for then buckle up as it's. It getting any less bumpy.
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We’ve tried a guy in Moyes who was a good manager but ultimately mid table. We tried two once great but past it managers in Lvg and Jose. We’ve tried a club legend woefully unqualified for the role.
Until we try a top, at his peak manager (crazy as it sounds) it’s pointless to just give up and think that owners who’ve given £1 billion to their managers are the reason we’re failing
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These owners are making these decisions you complete and utter prat. They are the problem.
And we did approach a world class manager in Klopp and he turned us down because Woodward said we were Disneyland. π
You can't separate your feelings from wanting Ole out to know I'm right.
If you think these owners are good for us you're more clueless than I thought you were. They throw bad money after bad money. That's not good ownership. That's throwing enough **** and hoping some sticks.
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I genuinely don’t understand how logic passes you by in these debates. In your black and white world you think that just because I don’t blame the owners 100% for everything that I must think they’re good for us π€ SE 85 logic.
Eventually they’ll bring in the right manager and supporters will be stunned at what ends up happening. The glazers are caaants but their influence ends once the game starts.
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Because you talk utter crap Robb.
You literally said 'we need to hire a world class manager in his pomp' and I told you we tried to get Klopp and he turned us down because of the regime and the Disneyland thing.
Wasn't Ole Gunnar Solskjaer that scared off a top class manager was it? It was that moron on his way out of the CEO role who did that.
Stop defending them. They are hired Ole. They are culpable for that. Can't blame Ole for taking the job. I'd have taken it too.
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π so because Klopp turned us down that is the blueprint for all top managers now and we can only turn to the Oles of the world. I’m 100% certain if we sacked Ole next weekend that Conte (a world class manager in his pomp) would take the job. He’d quite like the huge budgets he’d get and the lack of interference from the top. Might even be the happiest he’s ever been at a club.
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Still avoiding my question. You said we didn't try. We did. Ole didn't put him off. Woodward did.
And you seem more angry at Ole trying and not being good enough than the ****'s who put him there.
This is where you're wrong.
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Am I angry at Ole? I have zero negativity towards the guy at all as I can separate Ole the player who I’ll always love and Ole the manager who isn’t good enough. I don’t hate anyone. Well, I hate Raheem Sterling as he’s cost me more accas than any other player alive.
Your argument about needing to ‘hate’ the people that gave Ole the job is strange. Just seems like you’re absolving Ole of all responsibility for spending half a billion and delivering nothing. Did the glazers pick the teams? Advise the tactics? Drop the players?
Nope. You don’t have to like the glazers to accept their influence can only reach so far.
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You've been negative about him since day one. But instead of taking out that frustration on who employed him all you do is mock him.
And whilst were on it...Conte has won 3 of his last 15 CL ties. Worse record than Ole. π Doesn't bode well for the chaotic hot seat at OT does it?
Sorry that doesn't fit in with your agenda though does it?
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If we have to sack a manager again in two years, so what?
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I get that, and if it's like Conte's couple of years at Chelsea, where you get a title and then a disappointing season that still yields an FA Cup before you part ways, then that's fine. But if it's just going round in circles and having managers spend a fortune trying to rebuild to their needs, playing poorly and winning nothing, it's a bit pointless.
Conte would surely have to sell a few of our attacking players and get in a midfielder or two, a wing-back and another CB. How long is that going to take?
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Thats no worse than getting another Ole in who would equally want their own players.
But if it's just going round in circles and having managers spend a fortune trying to rebuild to their needs, playing poorly and winning nothing, it's a bit pointless.
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This is what we do anyway.
I don’t even want Conte. But there’s a legitimate argument for appointing him, because he’s a fantastic coach at the peak of his powers. Given the problems behind the scenes at United I think he’s the only manager that could win the league with us, and no this isn’t ‘like Mourinho?’ as he’s much better than him.
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The Ole outers are more furious at Ole for taking the job than the guys who offered it him. How can anyone blame Ole for taking the job he was never qualified for? We'd have all taken it too. Of course we would.
Start looking at the real problem. The Glazers and Woodward have ruined us. They will continue to ruin us under Glazers / Arnold regime. We can change the manager of course and hope things get better and I'm sure Ole will get the chop soon too. However nothing fundamentally will change until these parasites are gone.
Credit to the scousers. They knew Hicks and Gillete had to go and they got their wish. We need to get these tw**** out before there's nothing left to cling to.
Don't blame Ole for 8 years of failure when he's only been here 3. The rot had set in long before yet nobody wants to admit it.
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You seem to be arguing a point nobody is making mate.
The owners aren’t going anywhere, where as a change of manager can happen.
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Great stuff. A change of manager has happened 4 times and nothing is changing but the initials on the manager's office.
If that's all we can hope for then buckle up as it's. It getting any less bumpy.
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We’ve tried a guy in Moyes who was a good manager but ultimately mid table. We tried two once great but past it managers in Lvg and Jose. We’ve tried a club legend woefully unqualified for the role.
Until we try a top, at his peak manager (crazy as it sounds) it’s pointless to just give up and think that owners who’ve given £1 billion to their managers are the reason we’re failing
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These owners are making these decisions you complete and utter prat. They are the problem.
And we did approach a world class manager in Klopp and he turned us down because Woodward said we were Disneyland. π
You can't separate your feelings from wanting Ole out to know I'm right.
If you think these owners are good for us you're more clueless than I thought you were. They throw bad money after bad money. That's not good ownership. That's throwing enough **** and hoping some sticks.
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I genuinely don’t understand how logic passes you by in these debates. In your black and white world you think that just because I don’t blame the owners 100% for everything that I must think they’re good for us π€ SE 85 logic.
Eventually they’ll bring in the right manager and supporters will be stunned at what ends up happening. The glazers are caaants but their influence ends once the game starts.
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Because you talk utter crap Robb.
You literally said 'we need to hire a world class manager in his pomp' and I told you we tried to get Klopp and he turned us down because of the regime and the Disneyland thing.
Wasn't Ole Gunnar Solskjaer that scared off a top class manager was it? It was that moron on his way out of the CEO role who did that.
Stop defending them. They are hired Ole. They are culpable for that. Can't blame Ole for taking the job. I'd have taken it too.
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π so because Klopp turned us down that is the blueprint for all top managers now and we can only turn to the Oles of the world. I’m 100% certain if we sacked Ole next weekend that Conte (a world class manager in his pomp) would take the job. He’d quite like the huge budgets he’d get and the lack of interference from the top. Might even be the happiest he’s ever been at a club.
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Still avoiding my question. You said we didn't try. We did. Ole didn't put him off. Woodward did.
And you seem more angry at Ole trying and not being good enough than the ****'s who put him there.
This is where you're wrong.
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Am I angry at Ole? I have zero negativity towards the guy at all as I can separate Ole the player who I’ll always love and Ole the manager who isn’t good enough. I don’t hate anyone. Well, I hate Raheem Sterling as he’s cost me more accas than any other player alive.
Your argument about needing to ‘hate’ the people that gave Ole the job is strange. Just seems like you’re absolving Ole of all responsibility for spending half a billion and delivering nothing. Did the glazers pick the teams? Advise the tactics? Drop the players?
Nope. You don’t have to like the glazers to accept their influence can only reach so far.
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You've been negative about him since day one. But instead of taking out that frustration on who employed him all you do is mock him.
And whilst were on it...Conte has won 3 of his last 15 CL ties. Worse record than Ole. π Doesn't bode well for the chaotic hot seat at OT does it?
Sorry that doesn't fit in with your agenda though does it?
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I’m negative about his managerial qualities which is quite evident in how badly he’s doing. Doesn’t mean I hate him. My fave player of all time was Lee Sharpe. If he was announced as manager next weekend I’d be negative about him but that doesn’t mean I’d hate him.
Great stat with Conte there. Here’s a (genuinely true) Ole stat. In his entire managerial history he’s never won a game after going down to 10 men.
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If we have to sack a manager again in two years, so what?
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I get that, and if it's like Conte's couple of years at Chelsea, where you get a title and then a disappointing season that still yields an FA Cup before you part ways, then that's fine. But if it's just going round in circles and having managers spend a fortune trying to rebuild to their needs, playing poorly and winning nothing, it's a bit pointless.
Conte would surely have to sell a few of our attacking players and get in a midfielder or two, a wing-back and another CB. How long is that going to take?
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Thats no worse than getting another Ole in who would equally want their own players.
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I don't think I've suggested getting another Ole in...
Any new manager will want his own players. My particular issue with Conte is that I don't see how some of our best/most promising players would fit into his system. For example, I said it yesterday - I want to see us move over the next couple of seasons towards a front three of Sancho, Greenwood and Rashford (this was one of the reasons I was ambivalent about Ronaldo returning) and there is just no way that's happening under Conte.
With the squad we have we’re a right wing back and a decent DM away from being a Conte ready side. Might need a couple more players to win the title but I’m certain Conte would have us playing a specific way and give the side an identity far quicker than Ole has tried and failed to do
Conte would surely have to sell a few of our attacking players and get in a midfielder or two, a wing-back and another CB. How long is that going to take?
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We need a right back, two cm’s and a striker soon as it is. This team may need even more work depending on whether some of these players need shifting because we finally bring in a manager that wants to play on the front foot and press high.
Ole’s got a better squad than anyone before him did. But that doesn’t mean his replacement will make a seamless transition when trying to mould a team as it’s currently one that plays without identity.
We’ve basically had a glorified director of football (who isn’t a grate one) managing the team for three years.
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Ole’s tactical genius example #1
Maguire is rushed back from injury and is obviously vulnerable so Ole ditches two DMs that could protect him in favour of just Matic. I mean, come on, how obvious is that ?
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Not disagreeng. Mags should never have played. But whee have u been whilst we have been ok? Uve just appeared as weve gone pants. π
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Honest question, have you been drinking? Are you a few coronas in and on a full blown ‘Ole might not actually be the saviour’ rant? I had a few Jose ones of those myself so we can smell our own.
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And now you're on the Conte bandwagon.
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He’s the best suited manager out there to come in and turn 2nd and 3rd place sides into champions. He may not be everyone’s cup of tea but he’s at least a logical next step for a side full of winners that miss a tactically sound manager.
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Yeh Yeh Yeh. Just like Jose. Guaranteed success.
If we bring Conte in then we might as well kiss goodbye to the youngsters we've been accumulating in the academy. Whoever comes in once Ole goes, it shouldn't be Conte.
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We’re on a long trophy drought and with clubs like Newcastle beginning to get wealthy it’s kinda imperative we get back to winning ways quite quickly.
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This was your exact reasoning with Jose. After the failures of Moyes and LVG we need Jose to guarantee us success. I just think that he is too similar to Jose and that it would be a step in the wrong direction considering the investment we've made in the youth setup. I'd much prefer your Rodgers suggestion.
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Ole’s tactical genius example #1
Maguire is rushed back from injury and is obviously vulnerable so Ole ditches two DMs that could protect him in favour of just Matic. I mean, come on, how obvious is that ?
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To be honest, Maguire shouldn't really have played, behind either one or two DMs. The only reason he did was because Varane was out as well.
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What does that say about his faith in Bailly and Jones?
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I agree on that. As I've said above/elsewhere, Ole doesn't seem to trust his squad players very much.
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When he first came in as manager the narrative was that he’d get the best out of the lesser players and we’d finally have a non chequebook manager who could form close relationships with the players and coach instead of buy. That narrative has changed to ‘we need to give him time to buy 11 world class players plus some more for the bench’.
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Was that the narrative?
And again with the hyperbole. Who has ever said he needs 11 world class players?
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He was clearly exaggerating to make the point.
We still hear Ole needs a top DM 100 times per day
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I think hes exaggerated both points. Which kind of makes his post pointless.
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I don’t think he did, it then I expect you ha e an issue with Rob or are a staunch Ole supporter.
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What?
Ole might be stubborn about playing McFred etc but even he would have stopped using the reply button on this thread by now
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Ole’s tactical genius example #1
Maguire is rushed back from injury and is obviously vulnerable so Ole ditches two DMs that could protect him in favour of just Matic. I mean, come on, how obvious is that ?
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Not disagreeng. Mags should never have played. But whee have u been whilst we have been ok? Uve just appeared as weve gone pants. π
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Honest question, have you been drinking? Are you a few coronas in and on a full blown ‘Ole might not actually be the saviour’ rant? I had a few Jose ones of those myself so we can smell our own.
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And now you're on the Conte bandwagon.
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He’s the best suited manager out there to come in and turn 2nd and 3rd place sides into champions. He may not be everyone’s cup of tea but he’s at least a logical next step for a side full of winners that miss a tactically sound manager.
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Yeh Yeh Yeh. Just like Jose. Guaranteed success.
If we bring Conte in then we might as well kiss goodbye to the youngsters we've been accumulating in the academy. Whoever comes in once Ole goes, it shouldn't be Conte.
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We’re on a long trophy drought and with clubs like Newcastle beginning to get wealthy it’s kinda imperative we get back to winning ways quite quickly.
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This was your exact reasoning with Jose. After the failures of Moyes and LVG we need Jose to guarantee us success. I just think that he is too similar to Jose and that it would be a step in the wrong direction considering the investment we've made in the youth setup. I'd much prefer your Rodgers suggestion.
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He’s better than Jose though as he’s at his peak whereas the Jose we got was a broken man. Conte is coming off doing a great job at Inter and United would be perfect for him as he’d get massive budgets and no interference from upstairs. The players need a proper tactical revolution and a manager they can respect. Pogba and he worked well and I’d imagine the likes of Varane and Ronaldo would love working under him.
Some of the lesser players would also appreciate how well he gets them playing as he did with Moses at Chelsea and Young and Darmian at Inter
As for the Conte European stat, I’m fairly sure Ole has lost 7 of his last 12 CL games. Could very easily have been 8 of his last 12 if Villarreal could finish.
Some of the lesser players would also appreciate how well he gets them playing as he did with Moses at Chelsea and Young and Darmian at Inter
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Yeah but Potter had Brighton performing like a top four team with Dan Burn as a lwb. So.
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Some of the lesser players would also appreciate how well he gets them playing as he did with Moses at Chelsea and Young and Darmian at Inter
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Yeah but Potter had Brighton performing like a top four team with Dan Burn as a lwb. So.
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Dan Burn still confuses me as to what the hell he is.
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As for the Conte European stat, I’m fairly sure Ole has lost 7 of his last 12 CL games. Could very easily have been 8 of his last 12 if Villarreal could finish.
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Yes, but it's acknowledged that Ole has failed in Europe so far and perhaps overall. The fact that Conte's record is even comparable goes against the idea of a proven winner etc.
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As for the Conte European stat, I’m fairly sure Ole has lost 7 of his last 12 CL games. Could very easily have been 8 of his last 12 if Villarreal could finish.
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Yes, but it's acknowledged that Ole has failed in Europe so far and perhaps overall. The fact that Conte's record is even comparable goes against the idea of a proven winner etc.
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Tbh right now European success is the least of our worries. If Conte came in for 2/3 seasons and won a title and an FA cup and left a good squad and the club less of a joke figure than it is now where Oles biggest fans are Liverpool and City fans, this time with at least some kind of identity, we could hand over that squad to someone else and give them an opportunity to go for the CL.
Conte’s cup record is so weird. In the league his record is nearly comparable to Pep’s. In cups and Europe it’s comparable to Rodgers. Doesn’t make any sense.
The big question is what right wing backs are available for Contes new project. Shame we missed out on Hakimi as he is top quality and would have been perfect.
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OP, you’re probably the only one on here who still wants to give him the season. It’s gonna get Mourinho ugly if we keep losing and the owners keep sending out contract extensions.
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Robbie, you might be right but if we beat the council rats next w33k, we go 2nd. Its too hard to call. Appreciate your appearance whilst we struggle again but that's the facts.
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Erm, have you looked at the table?
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Yes. Have you? If we win work it out and answer me..daft ratπ
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Want to explain how you make up a 4 point gap in one match? This should be good
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14 +3 =17.
United win, they go to 17, Liverpool currently on 18.
Do you want want me to wipe ur mums fuff after i smas her too? Scousers πππ
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And before u get clever read the Opπ
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You said victory against us puts you 2nd. Both us and Chelsea are more than 3 points ahead of you. It’s not possible Stupidson.
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DDG
Kounde Varane Maguire
Hakimi Bruno Bellingham Pogba Shaw
Greenwood Rashford
^^^^ Chefs kiss
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When he first came in as manager the narrative was that he’d get the best out of the lesser players and we’d finally have a non chequebook manager who could form close relationships with the players and coach instead of buy. That narrative has changed to ‘we need to give him time to buy 11 world class players plus some more for the bench’.
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Robb just made this up.
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That's what I thought when I read it. Been a few years so could be wrong, but dont recall that being the narrative at all.
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When he first came in as manager the narrative was that he’d get the best out of the lesser players and we’d finally have a non chequebook manager who could form close relationships with the players and coach instead of buy. That narrative has changed to ‘we need to give him time to buy 11 world class players plus some more for the bench’.
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Robb just made this up.
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That's what I thought when I read it. Been a few years so could be wrong, but dont recall that being the narrative at all.
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Darren can confirm this
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When he first came in as manager the narrative was that he’d get the best out of the lesser players and we’d finally have a non chequebook manager who could form close relationships with the players and coach instead of buy. That narrative has changed to ‘we need to give him time to buy 11 world class players plus some more for the bench’.
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Robb just made this up.
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That's what I thought when I read it. Been a few years so could be wrong, but dont recall that being the narrative at all.
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It definitely was.
It soon evaporated once everything went to shiiiiiit at the end of the season and we had to completely rip up the squad, however.
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DDG
Kounde Varane Maguire
Hakimi Bruno Bellingham Pogba Shaw
Greenwood Rashford
^^^^ Chefs kiss
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I don't think Conte would be playing both Bruno and Pogba, and certainly not with a young CM (who we probably won't get anyway). And if he did play Bruno and Pogba, then Pogba would probably be in a two with the wingbacks either side, and Bruno would then be further up and behind a striker. I also don't think he'd play both Greenwood and Rashford together.
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DDG
Kounde Varane Maguire
Hakimi Bruno Bellingham Pogba Shaw
Greenwood Rashford
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I don't think Conte would be playing both Bruno and Pogba, and certainly not with a young CM (who we probably won't get anyway). And if he did play Bruno and Pogba, then Pogba would probably be in a two with the wingbacks either side, and Bruno would then be further up and behind a striker. I also don't think he'd play both Greenwood and Rashford together.
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This is why Conte is paid the big bucks. I’ll let him pick the sides from now on.
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The Ole outers are more furious at Ole for taking the job than the guys who offered it him. How can anyone blame Ole for taking the job he was never qualified for? We'd have all taken it too. Of course we would.
Start looking at the real problem. The Glazers and Woodward have ruined us. They will continue to ruin us under Glazers / Arnold regime. We can change the manager of course and hope things get better and I'm sure Ole will get the chop soon too. However nothing fundamentally will change until these parasites are gone.
Credit to the scousers. They knew Hicks and Gillete had to go and they got their wish. We need to get these tw**** out before there's nothing left to cling to.
Don't blame Ole for 8 years of failure when he's only been here 3. The rot had set in long before yet nobody wants to admit it.
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You seem to be arguing a point nobody is making mate.
The owners aren’t going anywhere, where as a change of manager can happen.
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Great stuff. A change of manager has happened 4 times and nothing is changing but the initials on the manager's office.
If that's all we can hope for then buckle up as it's. It getting any less bumpy.
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We’ve tried a guy in Moyes who was a good manager but ultimately mid table. We tried two once great but past it managers in Lvg and Jose. We’ve tried a club legend woefully unqualified for the role.
Until we try a top, at his peak manager (crazy as it sounds) it’s pointless to just give up and think that owners who’ve given £1 billion to their managers are the reason we’re failing
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These owners are making these decisions you complete and utter prat. They are the problem.
And we did approach a world class manager in Klopp and he turned us down because Woodward said we were Disneyland. π
You can't separate your feelings from wanting Ole out to know I'm right.
If you think these owners are good for us you're more clueless than I thought you were. They throw bad money after bad money. That's not good ownership. That's throwing enough **** and hoping some sticks.
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I genuinely don’t understand how logic passes you by in these debates. In your black and white world you think that just because I don’t blame the owners 100% for everything that I must think they’re good for us π€ SE 85 logic.
Eventually they’ll bring in the right manager and supporters will be stunned at what ends up happening. The glazers are caaants but their influence ends once the game starts.
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Because you talk utter crap Robb.
You literally said 'we need to hire a world class manager in his pomp' and I told you we tried to get Klopp and he turned us down because of the regime and the Disneyland thing.
Wasn't Ole Gunnar Solskjaer that scared off a top class manager was it? It was that moron on his way out of the CEO role who did that.
Stop defending them. They are hired Ole. They are culpable for that. Can't blame Ole for taking the job. I'd have taken it too.
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π so because Klopp turned us down that is the blueprint for all top managers now and we can only turn to the Oles of the world. I’m 100% certain if we sacked Ole next weekend that Conte (a world class manager in his pomp) would take the job. He’d quite like the huge budgets he’d get and the lack of interference from the top. Might even be the happiest he’s ever been at a club.
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Still avoiding my question. You said we didn't try. We did. Ole didn't put him off. Woodward did.
And you seem more angry at Ole trying and not being good enough than the ****'s who put him there.
This is where you're wrong.
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Am I angry at Ole? I have zero negativity towards the guy at all as I can separate Ole the player who I’ll always love and Ole the manager who isn’t good enough. I don’t hate anyone. Well, I hate Raheem Sterling as he’s cost me more accas than any other player alive.
Your argument about needing to ‘hate’ the people that gave Ole the job is strange. Just seems like you’re absolving Ole of all responsibility for spending half a billion and delivering nothing. Did the glazers pick the teams? Advise the tactics? Drop the players?
Nope. You don’t have to like the glazers to accept their influence can only reach so far.
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You've been negative about him since day one. But instead of taking out that frustration on who employed him all you do is mock him.
And whilst were on it...Conte has won 3 of his last 15 CL ties. Worse record than Ole. π Doesn't bode well for the chaotic hot seat at OT does it?
Sorry that doesn't fit in with your agenda though does it?
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comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
If we have to sack a manager again in two years, so what?
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I get that, and if it's like Conte's couple of years at Chelsea, where you get a title and then a disappointing season that still yields an FA Cup before you part ways, then that's fine. But if it's just going round in circles and having managers spend a fortune trying to rebuild to their needs, playing poorly and winning nothing, it's a bit pointless.
Conte would surely have to sell a few of our attacking players and get in a midfielder or two, a wing-back and another CB. How long is that going to take?
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Thats no worse than getting another Ole in who would equally want their own players.
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But if it's just going round in circles and having managers spend a fortune trying to rebuild to their needs, playing poorly and winning nothing, it's a bit pointless.
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This is what we do anyway.
I don’t even want Conte. But there’s a legitimate argument for appointing him, because he’s a fantastic coach at the peak of his powers. Given the problems behind the scenes at United I think he’s the only manager that could win the league with us, and no this isn’t ‘like Mourinho?’ as he’s much better than him.
posted on 17/10/21
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The Ole outers are more furious at Ole for taking the job than the guys who offered it him. How can anyone blame Ole for taking the job he was never qualified for? We'd have all taken it too. Of course we would.
Start looking at the real problem. The Glazers and Woodward have ruined us. They will continue to ruin us under Glazers / Arnold regime. We can change the manager of course and hope things get better and I'm sure Ole will get the chop soon too. However nothing fundamentally will change until these parasites are gone.
Credit to the scousers. They knew Hicks and Gillete had to go and they got their wish. We need to get these tw**** out before there's nothing left to cling to.
Don't blame Ole for 8 years of failure when he's only been here 3. The rot had set in long before yet nobody wants to admit it.
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You seem to be arguing a point nobody is making mate.
The owners aren’t going anywhere, where as a change of manager can happen.
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Great stuff. A change of manager has happened 4 times and nothing is changing but the initials on the manager's office.
If that's all we can hope for then buckle up as it's. It getting any less bumpy.
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We’ve tried a guy in Moyes who was a good manager but ultimately mid table. We tried two once great but past it managers in Lvg and Jose. We’ve tried a club legend woefully unqualified for the role.
Until we try a top, at his peak manager (crazy as it sounds) it’s pointless to just give up and think that owners who’ve given £1 billion to their managers are the reason we’re failing
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These owners are making these decisions you complete and utter prat. They are the problem.
And we did approach a world class manager in Klopp and he turned us down because Woodward said we were Disneyland. π
You can't separate your feelings from wanting Ole out to know I'm right.
If you think these owners are good for us you're more clueless than I thought you were. They throw bad money after bad money. That's not good ownership. That's throwing enough **** and hoping some sticks.
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I genuinely don’t understand how logic passes you by in these debates. In your black and white world you think that just because I don’t blame the owners 100% for everything that I must think they’re good for us π€ SE 85 logic.
Eventually they’ll bring in the right manager and supporters will be stunned at what ends up happening. The glazers are caaants but their influence ends once the game starts.
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Because you talk utter crap Robb.
You literally said 'we need to hire a world class manager in his pomp' and I told you we tried to get Klopp and he turned us down because of the regime and the Disneyland thing.
Wasn't Ole Gunnar Solskjaer that scared off a top class manager was it? It was that moron on his way out of the CEO role who did that.
Stop defending them. They are hired Ole. They are culpable for that. Can't blame Ole for taking the job. I'd have taken it too.
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π so because Klopp turned us down that is the blueprint for all top managers now and we can only turn to the Oles of the world. I’m 100% certain if we sacked Ole next weekend that Conte (a world class manager in his pomp) would take the job. He’d quite like the huge budgets he’d get and the lack of interference from the top. Might even be the happiest he’s ever been at a club.
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Still avoiding my question. You said we didn't try. We did. Ole didn't put him off. Woodward did.
And you seem more angry at Ole trying and not being good enough than the ****'s who put him there.
This is where you're wrong.
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Am I angry at Ole? I have zero negativity towards the guy at all as I can separate Ole the player who I’ll always love and Ole the manager who isn’t good enough. I don’t hate anyone. Well, I hate Raheem Sterling as he’s cost me more accas than any other player alive.
Your argument about needing to ‘hate’ the people that gave Ole the job is strange. Just seems like you’re absolving Ole of all responsibility for spending half a billion and delivering nothing. Did the glazers pick the teams? Advise the tactics? Drop the players?
Nope. You don’t have to like the glazers to accept their influence can only reach so far.
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You've been negative about him since day one. But instead of taking out that frustration on who employed him all you do is mock him.
And whilst were on it...Conte has won 3 of his last 15 CL ties. Worse record than Ole. π Doesn't bode well for the chaotic hot seat at OT does it?
Sorry that doesn't fit in with your agenda though does it?
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I’m negative about his managerial qualities which is quite evident in how badly he’s doing. Doesn’t mean I hate him. My fave player of all time was Lee Sharpe. If he was announced as manager next weekend I’d be negative about him but that doesn’t mean I’d hate him.
Great stat with Conte there. Here’s a (genuinely true) Ole stat. In his entire managerial history he’s never won a game after going down to 10 men.
posted on 17/10/21
comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
If we have to sack a manager again in two years, so what?
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I get that, and if it's like Conte's couple of years at Chelsea, where you get a title and then a disappointing season that still yields an FA Cup before you part ways, then that's fine. But if it's just going round in circles and having managers spend a fortune trying to rebuild to their needs, playing poorly and winning nothing, it's a bit pointless.
Conte would surely have to sell a few of our attacking players and get in a midfielder or two, a wing-back and another CB. How long is that going to take?
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Thats no worse than getting another Ole in who would equally want their own players.
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I don't think I've suggested getting another Ole in...
Any new manager will want his own players. My particular issue with Conte is that I don't see how some of our best/most promising players would fit into his system. For example, I said it yesterday - I want to see us move over the next couple of seasons towards a front three of Sancho, Greenwood and Rashford (this was one of the reasons I was ambivalent about Ronaldo returning) and there is just no way that's happening under Conte.
posted on 18/10/21
With the squad we have we’re a right wing back and a decent DM away from being a Conte ready side. Might need a couple more players to win the title but I’m certain Conte would have us playing a specific way and give the side an identity far quicker than Ole has tried and failed to do
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Conte would surely have to sell a few of our attacking players and get in a midfielder or two, a wing-back and another CB. How long is that going to take?
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We need a right back, two cm’s and a striker soon as it is. This team may need even more work depending on whether some of these players need shifting because we finally bring in a manager that wants to play on the front foot and press high.
Ole’s got a better squad than anyone before him did. But that doesn’t mean his replacement will make a seamless transition when trying to mould a team as it’s currently one that plays without identity.
We’ve basically had a glorified director of football (who isn’t a grate one) managing the team for three years.
posted on 18/10/21
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Ole’s tactical genius example #1
Maguire is rushed back from injury and is obviously vulnerable so Ole ditches two DMs that could protect him in favour of just Matic. I mean, come on, how obvious is that ?
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Not disagreeng. Mags should never have played. But whee have u been whilst we have been ok? Uve just appeared as weve gone pants. π
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Honest question, have you been drinking? Are you a few coronas in and on a full blown ‘Ole might not actually be the saviour’ rant? I had a few Jose ones of those myself so we can smell our own.
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And now you're on the Conte bandwagon.
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He’s the best suited manager out there to come in and turn 2nd and 3rd place sides into champions. He may not be everyone’s cup of tea but he’s at least a logical next step for a side full of winners that miss a tactically sound manager.
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Yeh Yeh Yeh. Just like Jose. Guaranteed success.
If we bring Conte in then we might as well kiss goodbye to the youngsters we've been accumulating in the academy. Whoever comes in once Ole goes, it shouldn't be Conte.
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We’re on a long trophy drought and with clubs like Newcastle beginning to get wealthy it’s kinda imperative we get back to winning ways quite quickly.
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This was your exact reasoning with Jose. After the failures of Moyes and LVG we need Jose to guarantee us success. I just think that he is too similar to Jose and that it would be a step in the wrong direction considering the investment we've made in the youth setup. I'd much prefer your Rodgers suggestion.
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Ole’s tactical genius example #1
Maguire is rushed back from injury and is obviously vulnerable so Ole ditches two DMs that could protect him in favour of just Matic. I mean, come on, how obvious is that ?
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To be honest, Maguire shouldn't really have played, behind either one or two DMs. The only reason he did was because Varane was out as well.
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What does that say about his faith in Bailly and Jones?
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I agree on that. As I've said above/elsewhere, Ole doesn't seem to trust his squad players very much.
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When he first came in as manager the narrative was that he’d get the best out of the lesser players and we’d finally have a non chequebook manager who could form close relationships with the players and coach instead of buy. That narrative has changed to ‘we need to give him time to buy 11 world class players plus some more for the bench’.
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Was that the narrative?
And again with the hyperbole. Who has ever said he needs 11 world class players?
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He was clearly exaggerating to make the point.
We still hear Ole needs a top DM 100 times per day
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I think hes exaggerated both points. Which kind of makes his post pointless.
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I don’t think he did, it then I expect you ha e an issue with Rob or are a staunch Ole supporter.
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What?
posted on 18/10/21
Ole might be stubborn about playing McFred etc but even he would have stopped using the reply button on this thread by now
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comment by Robbb Conte (U22716)
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Ole’s tactical genius example #1
Maguire is rushed back from injury and is obviously vulnerable so Ole ditches two DMs that could protect him in favour of just Matic. I mean, come on, how obvious is that ?
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Not disagreeng. Mags should never have played. But whee have u been whilst we have been ok? Uve just appeared as weve gone pants. π
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Honest question, have you been drinking? Are you a few coronas in and on a full blown ‘Ole might not actually be the saviour’ rant? I had a few Jose ones of those myself so we can smell our own.
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And now you're on the Conte bandwagon.
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He’s the best suited manager out there to come in and turn 2nd and 3rd place sides into champions. He may not be everyone’s cup of tea but he’s at least a logical next step for a side full of winners that miss a tactically sound manager.
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Yeh Yeh Yeh. Just like Jose. Guaranteed success.
If we bring Conte in then we might as well kiss goodbye to the youngsters we've been accumulating in the academy. Whoever comes in once Ole goes, it shouldn't be Conte.
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We’re on a long trophy drought and with clubs like Newcastle beginning to get wealthy it’s kinda imperative we get back to winning ways quite quickly.
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This was your exact reasoning with Jose. After the failures of Moyes and LVG we need Jose to guarantee us success. I just think that he is too similar to Jose and that it would be a step in the wrong direction considering the investment we've made in the youth setup. I'd much prefer your Rodgers suggestion.
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He’s better than Jose though as he’s at his peak whereas the Jose we got was a broken man. Conte is coming off doing a great job at Inter and United would be perfect for him as he’d get massive budgets and no interference from upstairs. The players need a proper tactical revolution and a manager they can respect. Pogba and he worked well and I’d imagine the likes of Varane and Ronaldo would love working under him.
Some of the lesser players would also appreciate how well he gets them playing as he did with Moses at Chelsea and Young and Darmian at Inter
posted on 18/10/21
As for the Conte European stat, I’m fairly sure Ole has lost 7 of his last 12 CL games. Could very easily have been 8 of his last 12 if Villarreal could finish.
posted on 18/10/21
Some of the lesser players would also appreciate how well he gets them playing as he did with Moses at Chelsea and Young and Darmian at Inter
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Yeah but Potter had Brighton performing like a top four team with Dan Burn as a lwb. So.
posted on 18/10/21
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Some of the lesser players would also appreciate how well he gets them playing as he did with Moses at Chelsea and Young and Darmian at Inter
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Yeah but Potter had Brighton performing like a top four team with Dan Burn as a lwb. So.
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Dan Burn still confuses me as to what the hell he is.
posted on 18/10/21
comment by Robbb Conte (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
As for the Conte European stat, I’m fairly sure Ole has lost 7 of his last 12 CL games. Could very easily have been 8 of his last 12 if Villarreal could finish.
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Yes, but it's acknowledged that Ole has failed in Europe so far and perhaps overall. The fact that Conte's record is even comparable goes against the idea of a proven winner etc.
posted on 18/10/21
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
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comment by Robbb Conte (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
As for the Conte European stat, I’m fairly sure Ole has lost 7 of his last 12 CL games. Could very easily have been 8 of his last 12 if Villarreal could finish.
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Yes, but it's acknowledged that Ole has failed in Europe so far and perhaps overall. The fact that Conte's record is even comparable goes against the idea of a proven winner etc.
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Tbh right now European success is the least of our worries. If Conte came in for 2/3 seasons and won a title and an FA cup and left a good squad and the club less of a joke figure than it is now where Oles biggest fans are Liverpool and City fans, this time with at least some kind of identity, we could hand over that squad to someone else and give them an opportunity to go for the CL.
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Conte’s cup record is so weird. In the league his record is nearly comparable to Pep’s. In cups and Europe it’s comparable to Rodgers. Doesn’t make any sense.
posted on 18/10/21
The big question is what right wing backs are available for Contes new project. Shame we missed out on Hakimi as he is top quality and would have been perfect.
posted on 18/10/21
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OP, you’re probably the only one on here who still wants to give him the season. It’s gonna get Mourinho ugly if we keep losing and the owners keep sending out contract extensions.
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Robbie, you might be right but if we beat the council rats next w33k, we go 2nd. Its too hard to call. Appreciate your appearance whilst we struggle again but that's the facts.
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Erm, have you looked at the table?
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Yes. Have you? If we win work it out and answer me..daft ratπ
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Want to explain how you make up a 4 point gap in one match? This should be good
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14 +3 =17.
United win, they go to 17, Liverpool currently on 18.
Do you want want me to wipe ur mums fuff after i smas her too? Scousers πππ
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And before u get clever read the Opπ
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You said victory against us puts you 2nd. Both us and Chelsea are more than 3 points ahead of you. It’s not possible Stupidson.
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posted on 18/10/21
DDG
Kounde Varane Maguire
Hakimi Bruno Bellingham Pogba Shaw
Greenwood Rashford
^^^^ Chefs kiss
posted on 18/10/21
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 31 minutes ago
When he first came in as manager the narrative was that he’d get the best out of the lesser players and we’d finally have a non chequebook manager who could form close relationships with the players and coach instead of buy. That narrative has changed to ‘we need to give him time to buy 11 world class players plus some more for the bench’.
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Robb just made this up.
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That's what I thought when I read it. Been a few years so could be wrong, but dont recall that being the narrative at all.
posted on 18/10/21
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
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When he first came in as manager the narrative was that he’d get the best out of the lesser players and we’d finally have a non chequebook manager who could form close relationships with the players and coach instead of buy. That narrative has changed to ‘we need to give him time to buy 11 world class players plus some more for the bench’.
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Robb just made this up.
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That's what I thought when I read it. Been a few years so could be wrong, but dont recall that being the narrative at all.
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Darren can confirm this
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comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 31 minutes ago
When he first came in as manager the narrative was that he’d get the best out of the lesser players and we’d finally have a non chequebook manager who could form close relationships with the players and coach instead of buy. That narrative has changed to ‘we need to give him time to buy 11 world class players plus some more for the bench’.
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Robb just made this up.
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That's what I thought when I read it. Been a few years so could be wrong, but dont recall that being the narrative at all.
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It definitely was.
It soon evaporated once everything went to shiiiiiit at the end of the season and we had to completely rip up the squad, however.
posted on 18/10/21
comment by Robbb Conte (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
DDG
Kounde Varane Maguire
Hakimi Bruno Bellingham Pogba Shaw
Greenwood Rashford
^^^^ Chefs kiss
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I don't think Conte would be playing both Bruno and Pogba, and certainly not with a young CM (who we probably won't get anyway). And if he did play Bruno and Pogba, then Pogba would probably be in a two with the wingbacks either side, and Bruno would then be further up and behind a striker. I also don't think he'd play both Greenwood and Rashford together.
posted on 18/10/21
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Conte (U22716)
posted 4 minutes ago
DDG
Kounde Varane Maguire
Hakimi Bruno Bellingham Pogba Shaw
Greenwood Rashford
^^^^ Chefs kiss
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I don't think Conte would be playing both Bruno and Pogba, and certainly not with a young CM (who we probably won't get anyway). And if he did play Bruno and Pogba, then Pogba would probably be in a two with the wingbacks either side, and Bruno would then be further up and behind a striker. I also don't think he'd play both Greenwood and Rashford together.
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This is why Conte is paid the big bucks. I’ll let him pick the sides from now on.
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