Early night for me then. Give sway two stupid goals and...no coming back from that!
Fulham won’t score 3 easier than those all season. I seriously thought we had turned that corner, but defensively we are a complete shambles, Figs in particular.if only Grabban hadn’t skied that early second half chance.
I seriously thought we had turned that corner, but defensively we are a complete shambles
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That’s an understatement
Home form is killing us. Penalty, amazed Yates wasn’t sent off. 4-0. Back to square one.
8 suicidal minutes - concede 3 goals
I suppose we’ll see now what SC is made of over the next few weeks
TBH - this has been on the cards for somy time - the amount of stupid goals we’ve already given away this season has e been all there to see
We’ve been bailed out over the past month with some luck and great attacking play
But once we come up against a quality team, I feared this would be on the cards
0:4 is a total embarrassment
I guess it is goodbye to my €400...
Guess we used up all of our luck at Brizzie, midweek. This is the most inept defensive performance since we got beat 4-0 AT HOME, by the Wendies all goals in the first half, Jordan Rhodes hat trick.
Losing discipline too - 5 yellow cards - totally unacceptable
That really was a reality check, can’t wait to see the reaction at QPR on Friday, Cooper will be livid with that effort, many on here have said for a while defensively we looked suspect, I didn’t think we were this bad. Brice’s distribution doesn’t help at times, but Cooper needs to make his mind up if we’re playing three or four at the back and work on it.
Forest = 1 shot in target - 0 goals - poor
Fulham = 3 shots on target - 4 goals
January transfer window will be very important
We need to get rid of Figs and hopefully Soh will back in defence ASAP
Could you imagine if we were in the PL with this team - we would seriously be in danger of beating Derby’s record
Let’s hope we can get back on track against QPR ,
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Could you imagine if we were in the PL with this team - we would seriously be in danger of beating Derby’s record
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Norwich are in danger of doing that this season.
Don't agree about Figs though. He has played quite well since we changed to playing 3 at the back, he clearly prefers it.
El Bosque, is go as far as saying that both Figs and Samba need replacing - I don’t think this team will go anywhere whilst those 2 are regulars
We need a keeper who commands his area and takes control of the defence - not just a good shot stopper - Samba isn’t good enough IMO
And as for Figs, he’s just not up to it, hopefully Soh, will be back ASAP
What it showed against ex-Premiership clubs. Is that there is zero margin for error. None. Three goals in eight minutes. Killed us.
Gifting them two goals was never going to end well. The third coming immediately after the change to four at the back.
I agree with both El and Rev about Figs. He’s been a lot better, but always has a mistake in him. He needed replacing last season imo.
The ref was card happy. I’m sure he booked Garner minutes after coming on. I didn’t think we had fallen apart, he reffed it like he had VAR in his head. Apparently he was a last minute replacement and Cooper said the first goal was a foul?
I think Colback’s position was part of the problem today. He was a bit off the pace and that got him taken off early. Garner out of form and yeah...looking forward to Ojeda starting.
Our Home form needs a quick fix, but QPR will feel the wrath on Saturday morning!!
The ex-Premiership teams continue to get stronger. Parachute payments are and will always be a joke to me. The equivalent of your opponents only having one glove if you’ve just had a world title fight.
Honestly, despite the score we weren’t that bad and Fulham weren’t that good.
Football is life.
Not been on since Sunday morning so I have a few things to say.
I think we finished 7th ( 1 point off the playoffs) with Samba and Figs playing regularly. I'm not saying we don't need better if we are to challenge for promotion but I don't think the need is desperate. If we can't replace them in Jan, don't worry; we'll try again in the summer. I think Fernandes is a better prospect than LMS although maybe not yet ready.
The biggest problem on Sunday was we looked tired (not fit enough?). Fulham players had goood movement, and moved the ball quickly and accurately. We have played the same team every game since Cooper came with one or two exceptions. Yates, Zinc, and Johnson looked particularly off. Give them a rest on Friday - play Colback and Garner (or Fornah), Lolley, and Mighten. Maybe Taylor too.
We had spells on Sunday when we looked OK but without posing too much of a threat. We got in good positions but the final pass was poor except for the Grabban chance.
We were poor at set pieces both for and against. Even throw ins. It looked like they had not worked on them in training. This has to improve massively.
We have improved a lot since Cooper came, and I think we will be even better when April comes around.
Bring on QPR
I haven’t watched it back Red, but they did look fitter / we looked tired. I checked the squad and they played pretty much the same team midweek though. It’s likely that we weren’t fit enough under CH and Cooper has been trying to change that no doubt.
Yeah, not sure on Fernandes short-term, but Soh has a better pass, strength and finish than Figs. A shame he’s injured, Harbottle (surgery) and Ely (fitness / setback).
Fornah should be in or around the first team, he needs less touches than any of our midfield. Ojeda is closer though, so i’d expect Colback to miss out entirely and Garner to start.
Fulham are a premiership side with premiership pace. More than any of the other relegated teams i’ve seen. On some websites i’ve even seen people talking about relegation! It was a good test, very early on in Coopers reign. I think all of your points are workable. We just need to bounce back and finish strongly before the international break.
Their team cost triple ours also.
I don’t buy the excuse that Fulham are a Premiership team full of Premiership players
Blackpool, Reading and Coventry have all beaten Fulham this season, so it proves that we should have has just as much of a chance than any of them
I think we played well in parts and the scoreline definitely flatters them, but the fact is we weren’t good enough on the day and we got the tactics and gameplan wrong
I hope we can get back on track against QPR on Friday
Tom Cairney was missing for them in those defeats earlier in the season and he is a big player with proper perm quality.
But the big moments in the game were us making mistakes, same type of mistakes that had people screaming for Hughton to get sacked. If we are really honest the similar mistakes that the likes of Barnsley, Birmingham and Blackpool were not good enough to take advantage off.
There has been improvements but still a lot of work to do and plenty to move on in the upcoming transfer windows.
All the comments have their own validity, but there is a common denominator, all the teams that did beat Fulham didn’t GIFT them three goals, take out the stupid, though unfortunately predictable mistakes and we could still have got a point out of that game. Any team will beat us if we keep gift wrapping goals, to me it’s as simple as that.
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posted on 24/10/21
Early night for me then. Give sway two stupid goals and...no coming back from that!
posted on 24/10/21
Fulham won’t score 3 easier than those all season. I seriously thought we had turned that corner, but defensively we are a complete shambles, Figs in particular.if only Grabban hadn’t skied that early second half chance.
posted on 24/10/21
Penno to Fulham
posted on 24/10/21
I seriously thought we had turned that corner, but defensively we are a complete shambles
============
That’s an understatement
posted on 24/10/21
Home form is killing us. Penalty, amazed Yates wasn’t sent off. 4-0. Back to square one.
posted on 24/10/21
8 suicidal minutes - concede 3 goals
I suppose we’ll see now what SC is made of over the next few weeks
TBH - this has been on the cards for somy time - the amount of stupid goals we’ve already given away this season has e been all there to see
We’ve been bailed out over the past month with some luck and great attacking play
But once we come up against a quality team, I feared this would be on the cards
0:4 is a total embarrassment
posted on 24/10/21
I guess it is goodbye to my €400...
posted on 24/10/21
Guess we used up all of our luck at Brizzie, midweek. This is the most inept defensive performance since we got beat 4-0 AT HOME, by the Wendies all goals in the first half, Jordan Rhodes hat trick.
posted on 24/10/21
Losing discipline too - 5 yellow cards - totally unacceptable
posted on 24/10/21
That really was a reality check, can’t wait to see the reaction at QPR on Friday, Cooper will be livid with that effort, many on here have said for a while defensively we looked suspect, I didn’t think we were this bad. Brice’s distribution doesn’t help at times, but Cooper needs to make his mind up if we’re playing three or four at the back and work on it.
posted on 24/10/21
Forest = 1 shot in target - 0 goals - poor
Fulham = 3 shots on target - 4 goals
posted on 24/10/21
January transfer window will be very important
We need to get rid of Figs and hopefully Soh will back in defence ASAP
posted on 24/10/21
Could you imagine if we were in the PL with this team - we would seriously be in danger of beating Derby’s record
posted on 24/10/21
Let’s hope we can get back on track against QPR ,
posted on 24/10/21
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 BrExIt Is DoNe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted about a minute ago
Could you imagine if we were in the PL with this team - we would seriously be in danger of beating Derby’s record
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Norwich are in danger of doing that this season.
Don't agree about Figs though. He has played quite well since we changed to playing 3 at the back, he clearly prefers it.
posted on 24/10/21
El Bosque, is go as far as saying that both Figs and Samba need replacing - I don’t think this team will go anywhere whilst those 2 are regulars
We need a keeper who commands his area and takes control of the defence - not just a good shot stopper - Samba isn’t good enough IMO
And as for Figs, he’s just not up to it, hopefully Soh, will be back ASAP
posted on 24/10/21
What it showed against ex-Premiership clubs. Is that there is zero margin for error. None. Three goals in eight minutes. Killed us.
Gifting them two goals was never going to end well. The third coming immediately after the change to four at the back.
I agree with both El and Rev about Figs. He’s been a lot better, but always has a mistake in him. He needed replacing last season imo.
The ref was card happy. I’m sure he booked Garner minutes after coming on. I didn’t think we had fallen apart, he reffed it like he had VAR in his head. Apparently he was a last minute replacement and Cooper said the first goal was a foul?
I think Colback’s position was part of the problem today. He was a bit off the pace and that got him taken off early. Garner out of form and yeah...looking forward to Ojeda starting.
Our Home form needs a quick fix, but QPR will feel the wrath on Saturday morning!!
The ex-Premiership teams continue to get stronger. Parachute payments are and will always be a joke to me. The equivalent of your opponents only having one glove if you’ve just had a world title fight.
Honestly, despite the score we weren’t that bad and Fulham weren’t that good.
Football is life.
posted on 25/10/21
Not been on since Sunday morning so I have a few things to say.
I think we finished 7th ( 1 point off the playoffs) with Samba and Figs playing regularly. I'm not saying we don't need better if we are to challenge for promotion but I don't think the need is desperate. If we can't replace them in Jan, don't worry; we'll try again in the summer. I think Fernandes is a better prospect than LMS although maybe not yet ready.
The biggest problem on Sunday was we looked tired (not fit enough?). Fulham players had goood movement, and moved the ball quickly and accurately. We have played the same team every game since Cooper came with one or two exceptions. Yates, Zinc, and Johnson looked particularly off. Give them a rest on Friday - play Colback and Garner (or Fornah), Lolley, and Mighten. Maybe Taylor too.
We had spells on Sunday when we looked OK but without posing too much of a threat. We got in good positions but the final pass was poor except for the Grabban chance.
We were poor at set pieces both for and against. Even throw ins. It looked like they had not worked on them in training. This has to improve massively.
We have improved a lot since Cooper came, and I think we will be even better when April comes around.
Bring on QPR
posted on 25/10/21
I haven’t watched it back Red, but they did look fitter / we looked tired. I checked the squad and they played pretty much the same team midweek though. It’s likely that we weren’t fit enough under CH and Cooper has been trying to change that no doubt.
Yeah, not sure on Fernandes short-term, but Soh has a better pass, strength and finish than Figs. A shame he’s injured, Harbottle (surgery) and Ely (fitness / setback).
Fornah should be in or around the first team, he needs less touches than any of our midfield. Ojeda is closer though, so i’d expect Colback to miss out entirely and Garner to start.
Fulham are a premiership side with premiership pace. More than any of the other relegated teams i’ve seen. On some websites i’ve even seen people talking about relegation! It was a good test, very early on in Coopers reign. I think all of your points are workable. We just need to bounce back and finish strongly before the international break.
Their team cost triple ours also.
posted on 25/10/21
I don’t buy the excuse that Fulham are a Premiership team full of Premiership players
Blackpool, Reading and Coventry have all beaten Fulham this season, so it proves that we should have has just as much of a chance than any of them
I think we played well in parts and the scoreline definitely flatters them, but the fact is we weren’t good enough on the day and we got the tactics and gameplan wrong
I hope we can get back on track against QPR on Friday
posted on 26/10/21
Tom Cairney was missing for them in those defeats earlier in the season and he is a big player with proper perm quality.
But the big moments in the game were us making mistakes, same type of mistakes that had people screaming for Hughton to get sacked. If we are really honest the similar mistakes that the likes of Barnsley, Birmingham and Blackpool were not good enough to take advantage off.
There has been improvements but still a lot of work to do and plenty to move on in the upcoming transfer windows.
posted on 26/10/21
All the comments have their own validity, but there is a common denominator, all the teams that did beat Fulham didn’t GIFT them three goals, take out the stupid, though unfortunately predictable mistakes and we could still have got a point out of that game. Any team will beat us if we keep gift wrapping goals, to me it’s as simple as that.
posted on 26/10/21
Totally agree dave
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