comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
He’s a beast of a player when he performs like he did yesterday evening.
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No he isn’t. He had a decent game is all. He still gave away the ball in stupid places and trundled through the midfield.
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Refreshing to see a comment with a bit of sense. Calling his performance yesterday "beast" is why other fans are laughing at us and our stock is falling daily.
Ferdinand and Brown against Barcelona 08 away is a beast performance, even though we drew. If that yesterday was a beast performance god help us.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
He’s a beast of a player when he performs like he did yesterday evening.
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No he isn’t. He had a decent game is all. He still gave away the ball in stupid places and trundled through the midfield.
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Refreshing to see a comment with a bit of sense. Calling his performance yesterday "beast" is why other fans are laughing at us and our stock is falling daily.
Ferdinand and Brown against Barcelona 08 away is a beast performance, even though we drew. If that yesterday was a beast performance god help us.
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The standards are going down to whatever lengths required to keep Ole in a job.
Imagine another manager who oversees Liverpool having two thumping wins in a row at Old Trafford while letting them win the Champions League and PL on his watch?
Always amuses me when top reds say Glazers out but enable their very symptoms (supporting a manager and players not good for the club because they think it makes them a super fan, and that's before we mention lining their pockets by attending matches).
Bizarre how doen on Donny some are.
Quality player who has been treated shockingly by Ole. No excuses.
McT is very ordinary. When he is eventually dumped by United he will go mid table, lower mid table then championship.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bizarre how doen on Donny some are.
Quality player who has been treated shockingly by Ole. No excuses.
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Because it will mean having to cristise Ole.
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy so Donny was never going to win this.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
McT is very ordinary. When he is eventually dumped by United he will go mid table, lower mid table then championship.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
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He starts every game you utter prat. He's been filling in as a CB for them of late as they don't have many options there.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
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Yeah, he does.
Can people maybe try and get their pont across on here without telling lies? Telles scored a good goal but was absolute facking shΔ«te against Villereal. McTominay starts regularly for Scotland. It doesn't invalidate your opinion to say so.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
McT is very ordinary. When he is eventually dumped by United he will go mid table, lower mid table then championship.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
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I disagree. I think if he had come through at West Ham or Everton, he would be talked about like Rice.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
McT is very ordinary. When he is eventually dumped by United he will go mid table, lower mid table then championship.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
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He starts every game you utter prat. He's been filling in as a CB for them of late as they don't have many options there.
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So he doesn’t start in midfield for Scotland
Imagine another manager who oversees Liverpool having two thumping wins in a row at Old Trafford while letting them win the Champions League and PL on his watch?
……
Interesting to know what you think Ole could have done to stop Liverpool winning the CL?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Imagine another manager who oversees Liverpool having two thumping wins in a row at Old Trafford while letting them win the Champions League and PL on his watch?
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Interesting to know what you think Ole could have done to stop Liverpool winning the CL?
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Would Mourinho have got the same leeway if it happened on his watch?
comment by Sierramist (U22412)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bizarre how doen on Donny some are.
Quality player who has been treated shockingly by Ole. No excuses.
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Because it will mean having to cristise Ole.
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy so Donny was never going to win this.
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True.
comment by Sierramist (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Imagine another manager who oversees Liverpool having two thumping wins in a row at Old Trafford while letting them win the Champions League and PL on his watch?
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Interesting to know what you think Ole could have done to stop Liverpool winning the CL?
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Would Mourinho have got the same leeway if it happened on his watch?
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Probably. SAF did.
Decent player nothing jaw-dropping
Same with Fred. We can do better. The number of times Fred lost possession yesterday was alarming. Spurs were obviously useless and did not do better with the ball.
We overhype some of these performances and when we meet a good team,.wonder why we perform the way we do.
Midfield needs quality and Fred and McT are not the answer not now and not down the line
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
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Another load of bollox.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
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Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 4 minutes ago
He's just another ordinary player and offers nothing that other players at the club don't already offer more of.
Indeed, there are probably 2 dozen journeyman footballers in the epl alone that are at the same level and above.
Yesterday's line up with Pogba instead of McTominay, and matic instead of lindelof should be United's starting outfield 10.
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Lol.
Imagine playing against a midfield of pogba and matic....
May as well play with 9 men
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This is the exact midfield which pulled us out of trouble after the first lockdown when we went on a run to finish 4th.
It is also this midfield minus Herrera which gave Ole his best run during his first few month's in charge, which got him the job.
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 21 minutes ago
Decent player nothing jaw-dropping
Same with Fred. We can do better. The number of times Fred lost possession yesterday was alarming. Spurs were obviously useless and did not do better with the ball.
We overhype some of these performances and when we meet a good team,.wonder why we perform the way we do.
Midfield needs quality and Fred and McT are not the answer not now and not down the line
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I don't think Fred is even decent. He's just not good enough to be even a squad player at United imo.
McT on the other hand is. His inconsistency is a problem though and makes it hard to justify him playing every week. But then, if someone is hit and miss, there's no guarantee that they'll have a good day when they are selected.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 40 minutes ago
McT is very ordinary. When he is eventually dumped by United he will go mid table, lower mid table then championship.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
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He starts most games for Scotland, i guess you never watch them.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
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Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
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Because with a competent manager we would be scoring goals regardless with the talent we have going forward. We desperately needed a midfielder not Ronaldo.
When Ronnie originally left us, we replaced him with Valencia and Owen and we were still successful.
Team balance is more important than the individual, signing Ronaldo has caused more problems than it's solved, I don't care how many he scores.
We'd have a greater balance between defending and attacking if Cavani was our main striker.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
…..
Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
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If you can be bothered to go back and look, you'll find plenty of sound, logical arguments on here as to why the Ronaldo signing might not have been a good idea. Not saying they are right or wrong, but they have some substance which is more than 'wE mUsT pRoTeCT OlE'
If you and that Sierrama weirdo want to ignore them in order to fuel your own strange, paranoid delusions about some brainwashed Ole-cult, feel free.
Fred’s a better player than McTominay. The problem is that neither should be starting games for us as much as they do. The failure to adequately address central midfield has been a huge problem.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
…..
Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
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Because with a competent manager we would be scoring goals regardless with the talent we have going forward. We desperately needed a midfielder not Ronaldo.
When Ronnie originally left us, we replaced him with Valencia and Owen and we were still successful.
Team balance is more important than the individual, signing Ronaldo has caused more problems than it's solved, I don't care how many he scores.
We'd have a greater balance between defending and attacking if Cavani was our main striker.
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What problems?
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
…..
Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
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If you can be bothered to go back and look, you'll find plenty of sound, logical arguments on here as to why the Ronaldo signing might not have been a good idea. Not saying they are right or wrong, but they have some substance which is more than 'wE mUsT pRoTeCT OlE'
If you and that Sierrama weirdo want to ignore them in order to fuel your own strange, paranoid delusions about some brainwashed Ole-cult, feel free.
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He is 36, its inevitable we will need to make some allowances for him, but no more allowances than we have to make for Maguires lack of pace, or the 2 DM's because the defence isnt good enough.
He is world class and brings more than he takes away.
Just find the negativity surrounding Ronaldo on here bizarre given the issues we have at CB, RB, DM and CM.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
…..
Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
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If you can be bothered to go back and look, you'll find plenty of sound, logical arguments on here as to why the Ronaldo signing might not have been a good idea. Not saying they are right or wrong, but they have some substance which is more than 'wE mUsT pRoTeCT OlE'
If you and that Sierrama weirdo want to ignore them in order to fuel your own strange, paranoid delusions about some brainwashed Ole-cult, feel free.
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He is 36, its inevitable we will need to make some allowances for him, but no more allowances than we have to make for Maguires lack of pace, or the 2 DM's because the defence isnt good enough.
He is world class and brings more than he takes away.
Just find the negativity surrounding Ronaldo on here bizarre given the issues we have at CB, RB, DM and CM.
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Yeah, great.
My point was about what does or doesn't bring to the team, more about the arrogant assumption that people who disagree with you must be doing so disingenuously because they want to protect Ole.
It's the type of utter nonsense which is ruining this board.
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posted on 31/10/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
He’s a beast of a player when he performs like he did yesterday evening.
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No he isn’t. He had a decent game is all. He still gave away the ball in stupid places and trundled through the midfield.
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Refreshing to see a comment with a bit of sense. Calling his performance yesterday "beast" is why other fans are laughing at us and our stock is falling daily.
Ferdinand and Brown against Barcelona 08 away is a beast performance, even though we drew. If that yesterday was a beast performance god help us.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
He’s a beast of a player when he performs like he did yesterday evening.
….
No he isn’t. He had a decent game is all. He still gave away the ball in stupid places and trundled through the midfield.
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Refreshing to see a comment with a bit of sense. Calling his performance yesterday "beast" is why other fans are laughing at us and our stock is falling daily.
Ferdinand and Brown against Barcelona 08 away is a beast performance, even though we drew. If that yesterday was a beast performance god help us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The standards are going down to whatever lengths required to keep Ole in a job.
Imagine another manager who oversees Liverpool having two thumping wins in a row at Old Trafford while letting them win the Champions League and PL on his watch?
Always amuses me when top reds say Glazers out but enable their very symptoms (supporting a manager and players not good for the club because they think it makes them a super fan, and that's before we mention lining their pockets by attending matches).
posted on 31/10/21
Bizarre how doen on Donny some are.
Quality player who has been treated shockingly by Ole. No excuses.
posted on 31/10/21
McT is very ordinary. When he is eventually dumped by United he will go mid table, lower mid table then championship.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bizarre how doen on Donny some are.
Quality player who has been treated shockingly by Ole. No excuses.
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Because it will mean having to cristise Ole.
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy so Donny was never going to win this.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
McT is very ordinary. When he is eventually dumped by United he will go mid table, lower mid table then championship.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
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He starts every game you utter prat. He's been filling in as a CB for them of late as they don't have many options there.
posted on 31/10/21
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
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Yeah, he does.
Can people maybe try and get their pont across on here without telling lies? Telles scored a good goal but was absolute facking shΔ«te against Villereal. McTominay starts regularly for Scotland. It doesn't invalidate your opinion to say so.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
McT is very ordinary. When he is eventually dumped by United he will go mid table, lower mid table then championship.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
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I disagree. I think if he had come through at West Ham or Everton, he would be talked about like Rice.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
McT is very ordinary. When he is eventually dumped by United he will go mid table, lower mid table then championship.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
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He starts every game you utter prat. He's been filling in as a CB for them of late as they don't have many options there.
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So he doesn’t start in midfield for Scotland
posted on 31/10/21
Imagine another manager who oversees Liverpool having two thumping wins in a row at Old Trafford while letting them win the Champions League and PL on his watch?
……
Interesting to know what you think Ole could have done to stop Liverpool winning the CL?
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Imagine another manager who oversees Liverpool having two thumping wins in a row at Old Trafford while letting them win the Champions League and PL on his watch?
……
Interesting to know what you think Ole could have done to stop Liverpool winning the CL?
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Would Mourinho have got the same leeway if it happened on his watch?
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Sierramist (U22412)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bizarre how doen on Donny some are.
Quality player who has been treated shockingly by Ole. No excuses.
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Because it will mean having to cristise Ole.
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy so Donny was never going to win this.
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True.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Sierramist (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Imagine another manager who oversees Liverpool having two thumping wins in a row at Old Trafford while letting them win the Champions League and PL on his watch?
……
Interesting to know what you think Ole could have done to stop Liverpool winning the CL?
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Would Mourinho have got the same leeway if it happened on his watch?
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Probably. SAF did.
posted on 31/10/21
Decent player nothing jaw-dropping
Same with Fred. We can do better. The number of times Fred lost possession yesterday was alarming. Spurs were obviously useless and did not do better with the ball.
We overhype some of these performances and when we meet a good team,.wonder why we perform the way we do.
Midfield needs quality and Fred and McT are not the answer not now and not down the line
posted on 31/10/21
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
…..
Another load of bollox.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
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Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
posted on 31/10/21
comment by GregOle (U1192)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 4 minutes ago
He's just another ordinary player and offers nothing that other players at the club don't already offer more of.
Indeed, there are probably 2 dozen journeyman footballers in the epl alone that are at the same level and above.
Yesterday's line up with Pogba instead of McTominay, and matic instead of lindelof should be United's starting outfield 10.
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Lol.
Imagine playing against a midfield of pogba and matic....
May as well play with 9 men
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This is the exact midfield which pulled us out of trouble after the first lockdown when we went on a run to finish 4th.
It is also this midfield minus Herrera which gave Ole his best run during his first few month's in charge, which got him the job.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 21 minutes ago
Decent player nothing jaw-dropping
Same with Fred. We can do better. The number of times Fred lost possession yesterday was alarming. Spurs were obviously useless and did not do better with the ball.
We overhype some of these performances and when we meet a good team,.wonder why we perform the way we do.
Midfield needs quality and Fred and McT are not the answer not now and not down the line
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I don't think Fred is even decent. He's just not good enough to be even a squad player at United imo.
McT on the other hand is. His inconsistency is a problem though and makes it hard to justify him playing every week. But then, if someone is hit and miss, there's no guarantee that they'll have a good day when they are selected.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 40 minutes ago
McT is very ordinary. When he is eventually dumped by United he will go mid table, lower mid table then championship.
The lad doesn’t even start for Scotland FFS
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He starts most games for Scotland, i guess you never watch them.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
…..
Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
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Because with a competent manager we would be scoring goals regardless with the talent we have going forward. We desperately needed a midfielder not Ronaldo.
When Ronnie originally left us, we replaced him with Valencia and Owen and we were still successful.
Team balance is more important than the individual, signing Ronaldo has caused more problems than it's solved, I don't care how many he scores.
We'd have a greater balance between defending and attacking if Cavani was our main striker.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
…..
Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
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If you can be bothered to go back and look, you'll find plenty of sound, logical arguments on here as to why the Ronaldo signing might not have been a good idea. Not saying they are right or wrong, but they have some substance which is more than 'wE mUsT pRoTeCT OlE'
If you and that Sierrama weirdo want to ignore them in order to fuel your own strange, paranoid delusions about some brainwashed Ole-cult, feel free.
posted on 31/10/21
Fred’s a better player than McTominay. The problem is that neither should be starting games for us as much as they do. The failure to adequately address central midfield has been a huge problem.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
…..
Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
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Because with a competent manager we would be scoring goals regardless with the talent we have going forward. We desperately needed a midfielder not Ronaldo.
When Ronnie originally left us, we replaced him with Valencia and Owen and we were still successful.
Team balance is more important than the individual, signing Ronaldo has caused more problems than it's solved, I don't care how many he scores.
We'd have a greater balance between defending and attacking if Cavani was our main striker.
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What problems?
posted on 31/10/21
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
…..
Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
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If you can be bothered to go back and look, you'll find plenty of sound, logical arguments on here as to why the Ronaldo signing might not have been a good idea. Not saying they are right or wrong, but they have some substance which is more than 'wE mUsT pRoTeCT OlE'
If you and that Sierrama weirdo want to ignore them in order to fuel your own strange, paranoid delusions about some brainwashed Ole-cult, feel free.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is 36, its inevitable we will need to make some allowances for him, but no more allowances than we have to make for Maguires lack of pace, or the 2 DM's because the defence isnt good enough.
He is world class and brings more than he takes away.
Just find the negativity surrounding Ronaldo on here bizarre given the issues we have at CB, RB, DM and CM.
posted on 31/10/21
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
People are throwing Ronnie under a bus to protect this guy
…..
Another load of bollox.
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Why else are they so critical of the Ronaldo signing?
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If you can be bothered to go back and look, you'll find plenty of sound, logical arguments on here as to why the Ronaldo signing might not have been a good idea. Not saying they are right or wrong, but they have some substance which is more than 'wE mUsT pRoTeCT OlE'
If you and that Sierrama weirdo want to ignore them in order to fuel your own strange, paranoid delusions about some brainwashed Ole-cult, feel free.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is 36, its inevitable we will need to make some allowances for him, but no more allowances than we have to make for Maguires lack of pace, or the 2 DM's because the defence isnt good enough.
He is world class and brings more than he takes away.
Just find the negativity surrounding Ronaldo on here bizarre given the issues we have at CB, RB, DM and CM.
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Yeah, great.
My point was about what does or doesn't bring to the team, more about the arrogant assumption that people who disagree with you must be doing so disingenuously because they want to protect Ole.
It's the type of utter nonsense which is ruining this board.
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