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He's been there a day FFS. Nothing to be scared about yet

Sell the lot of them.

Apart from sonny and perhaps Hugo, every single other player has let spurs down too many times.

Accept offers for all of them and get conte whomever he wants

Sick of seeing players in a spurs shirt play like they can’t remember how to pass a ball or defend a set piece.

comment by Citizen Smeg. Hope anyone but City win it (U6574)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sell the lot of them.

Apart from sonny and perhaps Hugo, every single other player has let spurs down too many times.

Accept offers for all of them and get conte whomever he wants

Sick of seeing players in a spurs shirt play like they can’t remember how to pass a ball or defend a set piece.


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Have to be realistic Smeg!

Conte just needs to fitness and concentration levels - it would improve so many of these players.

Squad I would keep

Hugo
Gollini
Romero
Royal
Reggie
Skipp
Hojbjerg
Ndombele
Lo Celso
Tanganga
Rodon
Lucas
Son
Kane
Gil

The rest can go.

Thought Conte came across really well in the interview, measured, clear sighted about the challenges ahead, but also fully sure of himself.

comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 1 minute ago
Thought Conte came across really well in the interview, measured, clear sighted about the challenges ahead, but also fully sure of himself.
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I think he can see that fitness and organisation of just this group of players will reap rewards. BT kept mentioning the 3 fitness coaches he has brought with him - he has obviously seen our running stats

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We all know what the problems are and they’ve been evident well before Nuno ever came in. By most accounts Conte has done his homework on us, but it’s good he got to see the defensive problems in the first match up close and in real time, as sorting the back line out is his most pressing and immediate challenge.

Curious to know what people thought of Hojberg. I actually thought he had a decent game but some of the press reviews and Twitter reactions have been quite negative.

comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 18 seconds ago
Both NDombele and GLC can be replaced with better.

Can’t see either actually getting any better.
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Really, Gio just won the Copa, it’s just Spurs that don’t get the best from him.

Ndombele is still young, I think if anyone can get through to him it will be Conte

comment by Striketeam7 - Sometimes it’s hard being the smartest person in the room (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 1 minute ago
Thought Conte came across really well in the interview, measured, clear sighted about the challenges ahead, but also fully sure of himself.
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I think he can see that fitness and organisation of just this group of players will reap rewards. BT kept mentioning the 3 fitness coaches he has brought with him - he has obviously seen our running stats
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Think he might need to double the number of fitness coaches lol given our current levels.

comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 54 seconds ago
We all know what the problems are and they’ve been evident well before Nuno ever came in. By most accounts Conte has done his homework on us, but it’s good he got to see the defensive problems in the first match up close and in real time, as sorting the back line out is his most pressing and immediate challenge.

Curious to know what people thought of Hojberg. I actually thought he had a decent game but some of the press reviews and Twitter reactions have been quite negative.
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Hojbjerg didn’t stand out one way or the other to me last night - I don’t know if that’s good or bad

comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 3 minutes ago
Both NDombele and GLC can be replaced with better.

Can’t see either actually getting any better.
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Thought Ndombele was really good when he came on. There is definitely player there, with him the real issue is consistency. If Conte can’t get him going on a more consistent level then yeah maybe he does need a change,

comment by Striketeam7 - Sometimes it’s hard being the smartest person in the room (U18109)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 54 seconds ago
We all know what the problems are and they’ve been evident well before Nuno ever came in. By most accounts Conte has done his homework on us, but it’s good he got to see the defensive problems in the first match up close and in real time, as sorting the back line out is his most pressing and immediate challenge.

Curious to know what people thought of Hojberg. I actually thought he had a decent game but some of the press reviews and Twitter reactions have been quite negative.
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Hojbjerg didn’t stand out one way or the other to me last night - I don’t know if that’s good or bad
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I thought there was a bit more thrust about his game especially in the first half, similar to his performances for Denmark at the Euros. Or maybe I was reading his performance wrong because a lot of people seem to disagree.

comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Sometimes it’s hard being the smartest person in the room (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 1 minute ago
Thought Conte came across really well in the interview, measured, clear sighted about the challenges ahead, but also fully sure of himself.
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I think he can see that fitness and organisation of just this group of players will reap rewards. BT kept mentioning the 3 fitness coaches he has brought with him - he has obviously seen our running stats
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Think he might need to double the number of fitness coaches lol given our current levels.
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Yeah if not more, it was shocking to see how knackered we were in the second half. Yes we had a player less, but we couldn’t get out of our own 18 yard box and we surrendered 2/3rds of the pitch.

Kane actually got us out of a hole last night as I don’t think we would have held on vs 11. His hold up play and ability to draw fouls swung the game back our way

We've got players who were looking bang average during Poch's time, who've been allowed to stay and look bang average 4 managers later. Davies, Dier, Winks...the squad needs a good clear out now.

Conte can only do so much.

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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 minutes ago
We've got players who were looking bang average during Poch's time, who've been allowed to stay and look bang average 4 managers later. Davies, Dier, Winks...the squad needs a good clear out now.

Conte can only do so much.
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The problem with a lot of the players you have identified is that they are on substantial salaries and have a few years still to run on their contract. Harry Winks to take one example of on around £91,000 p/w - who else is going to pay him that now. Just another example of how badly the club has been run in recent years from a footballing perspective.

You can only read so much into it after one game. My take:

- great to see us actually pass forward in the first half, with some evident patterns of play / passing / football
- looks like we’ll engage the ball higher up the field - midfield two were quite high as well
- passing out from the back. I can’t remember doing it so frequently under Jose and NES, but last night felt like it was the MO for goal kicks
- the defence, just awful. I don’t know what it is. Doesn’t matter the formation, the manager or the players, our defenders just look lost. This will be Conte’s biggest challenge IMO
- Lloris - we’re lucky to have him
- Kane - sat higher for the most part. Hold up play in the second half was invaluable. It’s only one game but his performance gives me hope he’ll turn a corner quickly
- Royal - again only one game, but that wing back role looks like it’ll suit him better than RB in a 4-4-2
- as people have said - fitness, fitness, fitness.

FFS HE SAID BE PATIENT!!!!!

Wasn’t Jose’s first game also 3-2 after being three up? Rings a bell…

comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
Wasn’t Jose’s first game also 3-2 after being three up? Rings a bell…
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No, not really!

We’ve had TWO managers since Jose!

comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 minutes ago
We've got players who were looking bang average during Poch's time, who've been allowed to stay and look bang average 4 managers later. Davies, Dier, Winks...the squad needs a good clear out now.

Conte can only do so much.
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The problem with a lot of the players you have identified is that they are on substantial salaries and have a few years still to run on their contract. Harry Winks to take one example of on around £91,000 p/w - who else is going to pay him that now. Just another example of how badly the club has been run in recent years from a footballing perspective.
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These lengthy contracts look good business by Levy when the players are doing well but when they aren't it looks rubbish. It would probably be better for everyone if they were frozen out like Rose was and then we bring in adequate replacements.

comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
Wasn’t Jose’s first game also 3-2 after being three up? Rings a bell…
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Yeah I already mentioned this on another thread. 3-2 against West Ham when we were 3-0 up in that one too.