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The game before the offside rule?

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posted on 22/12/21

comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago

Yeah but ban slow motion replays in VAR for these sorts of things because football doesn't happen in slow motion, other than in La Liga.
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Or for McMullen's goal for Hibs

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 29 seconds ago
Speaking of goalies hoofing it, and though it's not a rule change thing, one part of football from my childhood days I miss is the crowd ritual when a keeper was doing his run-up for a goal kick.
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You could watch some EFL games? They love it there.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Speaking of goalies hoofing it, and though it's not a rule change thing, one part of football from my childhood days I miss is the crowd ritual when a keeper was doing his run-up for a goal kick.
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That evolved at some grounds in the eighties from "Whooooooaaah -You're Shiiit - Aaaaarhhhh" to Whooooooaaah -You've Got AIDS - Aaaaarhhhh"

posted on 22/12/21

It does seem to be hard for some refs to identify a dive by pro footballers in real time. However many time served ex pros (TV punters who seem to be able to sniff out a professional dive at 600 paces), which leads to the argument that more ex-players should be encouraged to become refs

posted on 22/12/21

comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
It does seem to be hard for some refs to identify a dive by pro footballers in real time. However many time served ex pros (TV punters who seem to be able to sniff out a professional dive at 600 paces), which leads to the argument that more ex-players should be encouraged to become refs
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1 Referee, 2 Referee's Assistants and Robbie Savage as Diving Referee

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 13 seconds ago
I don't actually think VAR has taken emotion out of the game, just potentially the immediacy of celebrating a goal.
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Is that not the whole point of football? That primal instinct. Imagine a caveman catching a mammoth then having to wait 5 minutes for a decision from VAR on whether he did or not, whilst you and the mammoth stand there anticipating the decision. Kind of kills the original moment.

And that is essentially what sports replace, primal instincts.
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Harness, not replace.
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Basically, no that's not the point of football.

posted on 22/12/21

I cant even imagine Garth Crooks using the 'caveman catching a mammoth' routine/analogy when describing a passage of play in football

posted on 22/12/21

Well before my time as I am sure some tw@t has already suggested.

Best two players I have ever seen to be able to play against the offside rule was our own RVN and sniffer Clarke at Leeds.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 13 seconds ago
I don't actually think VAR has taken emotion out of the game, just potentially the immediacy of celebrating a goal.
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Is that not the whole point of football? That primal instinct. Imagine a caveman catching a mammoth then having to wait 5 minutes for a decision from VAR on whether he did or not, whilst you and the mammoth stand there anticipating the decision. Kind of kills the original moment.

And that is essentially what sports replace, primal instincts.
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Harness, not replace.
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Basically, no that's not the point of football.
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Yeah. Do some reading. Over the last five million years, part of our brain evolved a talent for raiding. A desire came with that talent. Even chimps play physical group games as they unknowingly prepare for future battles. Today, you experience that desire as a need to compete, play sports, or tackle war games on your X-Box. Just an example.

There are others explaining fan behaviour.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 4 seconds ago
Ozzie rules (which doesn't have an offside rule) illustrates most closely i think how football was played in the early days (and before the different codes split)
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It's actually only in this code of football that we have offsides. In Aussie, American and Stoke football there is no offside. The difference with those obviously is they involve throwing and not kicking, and you're not offside from throws. Very different sports to normal football obviously.
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American football has offside. If you pass the line of scrimmage before the ball has been snapped.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
I cant even imagine Garth Crooks using the 'caveman catching a mammoth' routine/analogy when describing a passage of play in football
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FFS I was doing some reading on it, and they actually quote Garth Crooks:

https://ibb.co/N9DpFSw

posted on 22/12/21

American football has offside. If you pass the line of scrimmage before the ball has been snapped.
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does there have to be a Commercial Break daylight distance between the players?

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 4 seconds ago
Ozzie rules (which doesn't have an offside rule) illustrates most closely i think how football was played in the early days (and before the different codes split)
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It's actually only in this code of football that we have offsides. In Aussie, American and Stoke football there is no offside. The difference with those obviously is they involve throwing and not kicking, and you're not offside from throws. Very different sports to normal football obviously.
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American football has offside. If you pass the line of scrimmage before the ball has been snapped.
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Yeah I don't care I was just trying to shiiit on Stoke.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 4 seconds ago
Ozzie rules (which doesn't have an offside rule) illustrates most closely i think how football was played in the early days (and before the different codes split)
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It's actually only in this code of football that we have offsides. In Aussie, American and Stoke football there is no offside. The difference with those obviously is they involve throwing and not kicking, and you're not offside from throws. Very different sports to normal football obviously.
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American football has offside. If you pass the line of scrimmage before the ball has been snapped.
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I really enjoy watching the American Football highlights, despite literally having no clue about any of the rules, tactics, nuances, teams or players .

I imagine it's what Poolmyfinger feels like when he watches Liverpool

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Speaking of goalies hoofing it, and though it's not a rule change thing, one part of football from my childhood days I miss is the crowd ritual when a keeper was doing his run-up for a goal kick.
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That evolved at some grounds in the eighties from "Whooooooaaah -You're Shiiit - Aaaaarhhhh"

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I tried to explain that to the kids once. The Mrs made me cut the $hit out of it.

Not the same chanting Whooooooah - you’re rubbish aaaaarhhh.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Speaking of goalies hoofing it, and though it's not a rule change thing, one part of football from my childhood days I miss is the crowd ritual when a keeper was doing his run-up for a goal kick.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That evolved at some grounds in the eighties from "Whooooooaaah -You're Shiiit - Aaaaarhhhh"

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I tried to explain that to the kids once. The Mrs made me cut the $hit out of it.

Not the same chanting Whooooooah - you’re rubbish aaaaarhhh.

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chucking bog roll on the pitch behind the goal has also seemed to died out of the game

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 4 seconds ago
Ozzie rules (which doesn't have an offside rule) illustrates most closely i think how football was played in the early days (and before the different codes split)
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It's actually only in this code of football that we have offsides. In Aussie, American and Stoke football there is no offside. The difference with those obviously is they involve throwing and not kicking, and you're not offside from throws. Very different sports to normal football obviously.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

American football has offside. If you pass the line of scrimmage before the ball has been snapped.
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I really enjoy watching the American Football highlights, despite literally having no clue about any of the rules, tactics, nuances, teams or players .

I imagine it's what Poolmyfinger feels like when he watches Liverpool
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I've learned most of the rules now, through playing Madden and watching.

I never used to be that bothered by it, but I went to see New Orleans Saints play when I was in New Orleans and it was one of the best sporting events I've been to. Loved it ever since.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Speaking of goalies hoofing it, and though it's not a rule change thing, one part of football from my childhood days I miss is the crowd ritual when a keeper was doing his run-up for a goal kick.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That evolved at some grounds in the eighties from "Whooooooaaah -You're Shiiit - Aaaaarhhhh"

----------------------------------------------------------------------

I tried to explain that to the kids once. The Mrs made me cut the $hit out of it.

Not the same chanting Whooooooah - you’re rubbish aaaaarhhh.

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chucking bog roll on the pitch behind the goal has also seemed to died out of the game
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Takes me back to watching the games in the Red Lion pub in Abingdon.. The more drunk you got the longer the aaaaaaaarhhh got.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Speaking of goalies hoofing it, and though it's not a rule change thing, one part of football from my childhood days I miss is the crowd ritual when a keeper was doing his run-up for a goal kick.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That evolved at some grounds in the eighties from "Whooooooaaah -You're Shiiit - Aaaaarhhhh"

----------------------------------------------------------------------

I tried to explain that to the kids once. The Mrs made me cut the $hit out of it.

Not the same chanting Whooooooah - you’re rubbish aaaaarhhh.

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chucking bog roll on the pitch behind the goal has also seemed to died out of the game
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Takes me back to watching the games in the Red Lion pub in Abingdon.. The more drunk you got the longer the aaaaaaaarhhh got.
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I doubt the keeper could hear you if you are in the pub. Your time and effort and self were WASTED

posted on 22/12/21

You might be onto something there Barry.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Speaking of goalies hoofing it, and though it's not a rule change thing, one part of football from my childhood days I miss is the crowd ritual when a keeper was doing his run-up for a goal kick.
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That evolved at some grounds in the eighties from "Whooooooaaah -You're Shiiit -Aaaaarhhhh"
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I once got subbed off in a primary school game for shouting that at the opposition goalkeeper after I'd heard it at a Wolves game the week before. The teacher was not happy.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Speaking of goalies hoofing it, and though it's not a rule change thing, one part of football from my childhood days I miss is the crowd ritual when a keeper was doing his run-up for a goal kick.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That evolved at some grounds in the eighties from "Whooooooaaah -You're Shiiit -Aaaaarhhhh"
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I once got subbed off in a primary school game for shouting that at the opposition goalkeeper after I'd heard it at a Wolves game the week before. The teacher was not happy.
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posted on 22/12/21

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Der Post Nearly Mann. Rangnificent (U1270)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Speaking of goalies hoofing it, and though it's not a rule change thing, one part of football from my childhood days I miss is the crowd ritual when a keeper was doing his run-up for a goal kick.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That evolved at some grounds in the eighties from "Whooooooaaah -You're Shiiit - Aaaaarhhhh"

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I tried to explain that to the kids once. The Mrs made me cut the $hit out of it.

Not the same chanting Whooooooah - you’re rubbish aaaaarhhh.

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Funny you should say that. I told my kids about "Whooooooaaah -You're Shiiit - Aaaaarhhhh" last week. Mrs Russian wasn't in the room so I gave them the unsanitised version.

posted on 22/12/21

comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 42 minutes ago
Be interesting to know what year the OP had really thought that offside was introduced into football rules.....Wonder if he had imagined the likes of Denis Law and Jimmy Greaves goal hanging and leaning against the post having a chat with the oppos keeper wating for the ball to arrive in the box... a la school playground footy


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I thought offside was brought in when football was invented, 92/93.

Nah, I’d have said around the 20-30s

posted on 22/12/21

The 2nd phase offside rule is interesting. There have been goals scored which blatantly take advantage of it, but it should be happening every game.

Striker stands way offside, ball played through to onside winger who just squares it to the now onside (but way beyond the defenders) forward to tap in.

They should actively be coaching this until the rule changes.

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