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Conte's Error Yesterday

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posted on 24/1/22

Think the biggest mistake was the line up and formation

As soon as the team was revealed and how we were going to set up the match was already lost

Can’t go with a two in midfield against Chelsea ….we needed to try and control that area or at least compete in it

Game was over before it started and perhaps that was a message from Conte to levy to say look what I’m having to do with this shower

posted on 24/1/22

comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 4 minutes ago
Think the biggest mistake was the line up and formation

As soon as the team was revealed and how we were going to set up the match was already lost

Can’t go with a two in midfield against Chelsea ….we needed to try and control that area or at least compete in it

Game was over before it started and perhaps that was a message from Conte to levy to say look what I’m having to do with this shower
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Yeah, the lineup was a strange one... my article was ignoring the obvious lineup error.

When I saw the starting 11, I thought he must be playing Dier or Tanganga in midfield.

posted on 24/1/22

I've reports that Skipp, Moura, Reg, Dier(who played) and one other I think were carrying knocks. Maybe it was too early to bring on Skipp in case he made his injury worse?

posted on 24/1/22

It was strange to see yesterdays line up and formation, however I don’t feel any of us are suitably qualified to challenge Conte’s tactical plan. If (and it should) Kane’s goal had stood it might have been a different result and we would have been hailing Conte as a genius.
I agree that he could possibly be indicating how inferior our squad is to Chelsea, something which is self evident when you looked at their bench.

Still with a couple or three additions this month in theory we could still overall haul Chelsea, bearing in mind how many games in hand we have.
Think Traore will be announced in the next couple of days.

posted on 24/1/22

Wouldn’t Emerson have been the right option?

posted on 24/1/22

A great squad we do not have but that line-up and formation smacked of Jose. It surrendered everything to Chelsea and banked on us keeping them out which is tough when we have so little control of the game.

I think the fitness of Royale, Reguillon prevented them from starting but I would have much preferred a 352 with Doherty/Sess as wingback rather than wingers, Skipp PEH & Winks in the middle and Kane & Berg up front.

Look forward to the next game when we should have Son, Reguillon, Emerson and Romero back in the team, and hope that we've added at least 2 new signings to give better options.

Sessegnon looks so more comfortable as a LWB rather than LW.

6 defenders and 2 DMs was bonkers.

posted on 24/1/22

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wouldn’t Emerson have been the right option?
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Assumed he was injured... was he on the bench?

If Emerson was fit, then I really cannot understand why he didn't start over Tanganga.

posted on 24/1/22

comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 4 minutes ago
It was strange to see yesterdays line up and formation, however I don’t feel any of us are suitably qualified to challenge Conte’s tactical plan. If (and it should) Kane’s goal had stood it might have been a different result and we would have been hailing Conte as a genius.
I agree that he could possibly be indicating how inferior our squad is to Chelsea, something which is self evident when you looked at their bench.

Still with a couple or three additions this month in theory we could still overall haul Chelsea, bearing in mind how many games in hand we have.
Think Traore will be announced in the next couple of days.
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Well, of course none of us have achieved what Conte has in the game, but it doesn't mean we cannot have an opinion on his decisions and also that we are not correct.

I think the first goal was crucial yesterday so can fully understand wanting to keep it tight.

Japhet not coming off was a mistake though, as proved by their opening goal.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 24/1/22

I was trusting in what Conte was doing yesterday but yes now in hindsight he got it wrong. There wasn't any need to change a formation that served us well in the Leicester game.

posted on 24/1/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 13 minutes ago
A great squad we do not have but that line-up and formation smacked of Jose. It surrendered everything to Chelsea and banked on us keeping them out which is tough when we have so little control of the game.

I think the fitness of Royale, Reguillon prevented them from starting but I would have much preferred a 352 with Doherty/Sess as wingback rather than wingers, Skipp PEH & Winks in the middle and Kane & Berg up front.

Look forward to the next game when we should have Son, Reguillon, Emerson and Romero back in the team, and hope that we've added at least 2 new signings to give better options.

Sessegnon looks so more comfortable as a LWB rather than LW.

6 defenders and 2 DMs was bonkers.
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Is Conte still being paid by Chelsea for that crazy contract ?.... would make sense if he is

posted on 24/1/22

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
I was trusting in what Conte was doing yesterday but yes now in hindsight he got it wrong. There wasn't any need to change a formation that served us well in the Leicester game.
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I was expecting the same lineup with maybe Dier coming in for Tanganga. As Edin points out above, some players may be carrying knocks.

I'd rather lost giving it a go than playing a defensive game.

posted on 24/1/22

Maybe yeah it was Conte's selction at fault but he can only pick from the squad of player he has avaialbe to to him. At the end of the day if he had played winks, skipp and PEH in the middle. Tuchel would have played Jorginhio, Kovacic and Kante..... hardly a contest and we would lost that battle.

At the end of the day we cannot compete with City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Utd and probably Gooners (Gerodies to join soon) on a financial level and will alway be looking for players working in our favour unless by some mircale 4/5 players come thorugh the accademy like it did for utd. ....but not going to happen.

it's hardely a fair playing field if look at Chelsea's model, sign the best players in the world and hoover up all the best young talent so no other prem side can then loan them out abroad with no real intention to play them.

How can EPL and Ueffa, Fiffa allow this to happen and allow one club to have 21 players out on loan and still allow them to sign players, it cannot be right for the game.

posted on 24/1/22

comment by LukaBrasi 🇮🇹 COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 26 minutes ago
I've reports that Skipp, Moura, Reg, Dier(who played) and one other I think were carrying knocks. Maybe it was too early to bring on Skipp in case he made his injury worse?
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exactly this

but hey it doesn't serve the narrative

posted on 24/1/22

comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi 🇮🇹 COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 26 minutes ago
I've reports that Skipp, Moura, Reg, Dier(who played) and one other I think were carrying knocks. Maybe it was too early to bring on Skipp in case he made his injury worse?
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exactly this

but hey it doesn't serve the narrative
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That's why I ignored the starting line up in my OP.

It was a mistake not to sub JT at HT.

With 9 substitutes on the bench, there's no excuse that there's not space for someone who can handle 45 minutes.

posted on 24/1/22

I have no idea why Tanganga continues to be picked, he has made several errors leading to goals

posted on 24/1/22

comment by ●Billy The Yidd● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 12 minutes ago
I have no idea why Tanganga continues to be picked, he has made several errors leading to goals
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Tanganga is a lower level Premier League player at best and has no business being a starter at a club which claims to have Champions League ambitions. Forget the top 6 there isn’t a top 10, top 12, Premier League club he would be starting at.

posted on 24/1/22

comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by ●Billy The Yidd● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 12 minutes ago
I have no idea why Tanganga continues to be picked, he has made several errors leading to goals
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Tanganga is a lower level Premier League player at best and has no business being a starter at a club which claims to have Champions League ambitions. Forget the top 6 there isn’t a top 10, top 12, Premier League club he would be starting at.
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He's Cameron Carter Vickers mk2

posted on 24/1/22

We never had any intention of competing against Chelsea, what ever team or formation, Conte realises this too, unfortunately we have to move on and hope that Conte doesn't.
It's all on Paratici and Levy, so won't end well

posted on 24/1/22

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by ●Billy The Yidd● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 12 minutes ago
I have no idea why Tanganga continues to be picked, he has made several errors leading to goals
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Tanganga is a lower level Premier League player at best and has no business being a starter at a club which claims to have Champions League ambitions. Forget the top 6 there isn’t a top 10, top 12, Premier League club he would be starting at.
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He's Cameron Carter Vickers mk2
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I think it's harsh to label JT like this.

He's young and in a bit of a poor spell (leading to goals against)... just needs a break so he can reset.

posted on 24/1/22

Is anyone else just tired of being passive all the time? I get that the team isn't what it was 4 years ago but to play with two central defenders, four full backs and two defensive midfielders is the sort of thing a conference side does in the F.A Cup third round. We're Tottenham for Christ's sake, not Accrington Stanley. It happened under Jose and it's happening under Conte too.

Maybe they're just not capable of paying on the front foot but when you look at a team like Brighton and the kind of football they play on a shoestring budget, you can't tell me the same can't be done for a vastly more expensively assembled side in Spurs.

We might get fourth but I'm a bit sick of the cautiousness and the lack of faith in flair players. It's not who we are. I'm still with Conte all the way but I'd like to see him have at least one or two mavericks in the side.

posted on 24/1/22

Can't help thinking that part on the terms of the contracts/ pay-offs managers sign at Chelsea is that they have to go into full sabotage mode if they ever manage Spurs.... AVB, Jose & Conte.... starting to see a trend here !!!

posted on 24/1/22

Brighton are not loaded with lots if flair players. It's their system under Potter which catches the eye.

I'm not overly fussed about having a flair player or creative mid. One, there are not too many around who are within our budget. Two, having a creative player in the middle of pitch, would gives us that classic soft cente Tottenham midfield which leak goals. And finally there would be too emphasis on that player to perform week in week out. It would make us become one dimentational. Every now again they might win us a match but they would be target.

I prefer Conte's approach at his former clubs using full backs, playing the ball fast throught the middle and counter attacking. It should in theory make us more solid and hard to beat.

posted on 24/1/22

comment by LukaBrasi 🇮🇹 COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
Brighton are not loaded with lots if flair players. It's their system under Potter which catches the eye.

I'm not overly fussed about having a flair player or creative mid. One, there are not too many around who are within our budget. Two, having a creative player in the middle of pitch, would gives us that classic soft cente Tottenham midfield which leak goals. And finally there would be too emphasis on that player to perform week in week out. It would make us become one dimentational. Every now again they might win us a match but they would be target.

I prefer Conte's approach at his former clubs using full backs, playing the ball fast throught the middle and counter attacking. It should in theory make us more solid and hard to beat.
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Bad choice of words on my part. I say flair players but what I really mean is a flair team. Brighton, for all their lack of one single creative world beater, play creatively as a team and what to command a game. Every successful club commands games. Very rarely will you see a side repeatedly win silverware and not dominate the ball.

The problem with not having the ball in a Conte system, and this has been proved by us having a relatively poor record against the top half teams this year, is that if you don't have the ball, those crucial wingbacks drop far too deep which creates a disconnect with the players at the top end of the pitch.

I'd prefer a return to the Poch style really. Not with him but someone of his ilk. A long term plan, a playing philosophy and see where that gets us. As good as Conte is, he will demand something of the board they just won't give. The ambitions aren't aligned.

I'm on board with Conte but I stand by what I said in the summer before Nuno came in - we should be banging the door down at Brighton to get Potter.

posted on 24/1/22

comment by Hello You Conte (U3338)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wouldn’t Emerson have been the right option?
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Assumed he was injured... was he on the bench?

If Emerson was fit, then I really cannot understand why he didn't start over Tanganga.
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It was reported that Emerson was only on the bench to make up the numbers, he's not properly fit. Not sure why.

posted on 24/1/22

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Hello You Conte (U3338)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wouldn’t Emerson have been the right option?
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Assumed he was injured... was he on the bench?

If Emerson was fit, then I really cannot understand why he didn't start over Tanganga.
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It was reported that Emerson was only on the bench to make up the numbers, he's not properly fit. Not sure why.
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Or he's just not very good.

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