I patriotism is loving the country you were born in ,I see nothing wrong in it.
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Depends on how the individual reacts to it. If it breeds contempt and feelings of exceptionalism, which it often does, then its very wrong. It can greatly enhance the us vs them concept too so in most cases there's nothing wrong with it but in some cases it can be dangerous. Depends on the individual and their propensity to critically reason out of issues and concepts and come to civilised conclusions.

That's a very shallow definition of patriotism anyway. How about you love the planet, which is the place you were born? You weren't born on Mars or Venus, were you?

But no. People would rather divvy up the earth with imaginary lines which you're supposed to love some more than others even though your actions have global impact now. Stoopid.

Patriotism could one day be seen as we now see racism. Something that was widely accepted but is ultimately disgusting.

We just haven't reached that point yet.

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
Furthermore, commitment to imaginary lies on a map is a bit stupid, very slowly going out of fashion and starting to look like a ridiculous concept.

It was useful until a certain point but its outlived its usefulness to the human race and 5s looking more and more like an impediment than a benefit to global success and prosperity.

When compared to the concept of the oneness of the human race, and when you consider that the world is now a small village where people are rushing from one side to the other and all over then patriotism can be argued to be a thick as fack concept.

Its also futile. When pandemics strike they no longer recognise borders. The black plague never left Europe. It was a different world where patriotism meant a lot more than it does now. If the plague happened today the whole world would be facked because we are now a village, uniformly impacted in every country by even by financial crises.

I could go on but I guess my point is that patriotism being a dirty word isn't exactly an absurd concept. In fact, patriotism is stupid, humanity just hasn't realised that fact yet.

I will admit I see overly patriotic people as being the more stupid people in society, the kind who score less in IQ tests etc, helping to hold humanity back from greater things.
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Black plague started in China early 1300s reached England around 1348.
WTF are you talking about it never leaving Europe?
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I must have meant the other plague. What was it called? I forget.

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Furthermore, commitment to imaginary lies on a map is a bit stupid, very slowly going out of fashion and starting to look like a ridiculous concept.

It was useful until a certain point but its outlived its usefulness to the human race and 5s looking more and more like an impediment than a benefit to global success and prosperity.

When compared to the concept of the oneness of the human race, and when you consider that the world is now a small village where people are rushing from one side to the other and all over then patriotism can be argued to be a thick as fack concept.

Its also futile. When pandemics strike they no longer recognise borders. The black plague never left Europe. It was a different world where patriotism meant a lot more than it does now. If the plague happened today the whole world would be facked because we are now a village, uniformly impacted in every country by even by financial crises.

I could go on but I guess my point is that patriotism being a dirty word isn't exactly an absurd concept. In fact, patriotism is stupid, humanity just hasn't realised that fact yet.

I will admit I see overly patriotic people as being the more stupid people in society, the kind who score less in IQ tests etc, helping to hold humanity back from greater things.
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You could go on, and do go on in fact.
I patriotism is loving the country you were born in ,I see nothing wrong in it.
Using it to fight with or denigate other people is wrong imo.
I have genrally found that people who have a view of the world that only a few others share, who believe the majority are too stupid to understand have a much lower IQ than the rest, and have an itellectual arrogance that is based on nearly nothing.

Still, none of it's my roblem, as old age part 2 will show;
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So why has it been weaponised by the far right?
Vidischin won't answer that. Young punk that he is.
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I can't answer either because I don't know. I'm quite willing to learn though..i maybe wrong but it seems as though the US is far more patriotic than the Brits. I think, but could be wrong, that at school you have to sing America my country. Also you see flags everywhere.

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by 🇺🇦 Boris 'Inky' Gibson 🇺🇦 (U5901)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 25 seconds ago
yeah your generation got extremely lucky with the whole retirement thing, ours, not so much.
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The older generation all started work at fithteen and put in their fivty years,today many youngsters start employment in their twenties, full of education but lacking common sense.
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Yeah your generation also got a much better quality of life, so ya know swings and roundabouts.
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Spoken like someone with few short years of knowledge and experience in comparison and a "modern" take on reality.

In other words, utter piiissh.
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Yeah cheap housing, cheap food, cheap everything.


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I rest my case
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Yeah, record unemployment, record interest rates and strikes every other week.

Life was a doddle.
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You forgot inflation!

Mr mouthy 30yo has only ever known it under control.
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Inflation is out of control wtf are you talking about?

comment by 🇺🇦 Boris 'Inky' Gibson 🇺🇦 (U5901)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 25 seconds ago
yeah your generation got extremely lucky with the whole retirement thing, ours, not so much.
-----------------------
The older generation all started work at fithteen and put in their fivty years,today many youngsters start employment in their twenties, full of education but lacking common sense.
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Yeah your generation also got a much better quality of life, so ya know swings and roundabouts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Spoken like someone with few short years of knowledge and experience in comparison and a "modern" take on reality.

In other words, utter piiissh.
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Yeah cheap housing, cheap food, cheap everything.


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I rest my case
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Yeah, record unemployment, record interest rates and strikes every other week.

Life was a doddle.
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You old people had it far easier than young people, you just don't like being called out for wrecking things for the next generations to clean up your chit.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by 🇺🇦 Boris 'Inky' Gibson 🇺🇦 (U5901)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 25 seconds ago
yeah your generation got extremely lucky with the whole retirement thing, ours, not so much.
-----------------------
The older generation all started work at fithteen and put in their fivty years,today many youngsters start employment in their twenties, full of education but lacking common sense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah your generation also got a much better quality of life, so ya know swings and roundabouts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Spoken like someone with few short years of knowledge and experience in comparison and a "modern" take on reality.

In other words, utter piiissh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah cheap housing, cheap food, cheap everything.


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I rest my case
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Yeah, record unemployment, record interest rates and strikes every other week.

Life was a doddle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You old people had it far easier than young people, you just don't like being called out for wrecking things for the next generations to clean up your chit.
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What did we individually do, and how are you putting it right?

Individually nothing, it's why it's specifically aimed at your generation and the benefits you all as a collective fecked it for the future generations.

As what we're doing? Nothing that can be done. Fecked. And being in lovkdown for 2 years to protect the old will be something we're paying for until we're dead.

So that's grand.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 minutes ago
Individually nothing, it's why it's specifically aimed at your generation and the benefits you all as a collective fecked it for the future generations.

As what we're doing? Nothing that can be done. Fecked. And being in lovkdown for 2 years to protect the old will be something we're paying for until we're dead.

So that's grand.
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I hope you don't believe all that.

Please tell me how we reverse the average house price in the UK of 360k?

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by 🇺🇦 Boris 'Inky' Gibson 🇺🇦 (U5901)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 25 seconds ago
yeah your generation got extremely lucky with the whole retirement thing, ours, not so much.
-----------------------
The older generation all started work at fithteen and put in their fivty years,today many youngsters start employment in their twenties, full of education but lacking common sense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah your generation also got a much better quality of life, so ya know swings and roundabouts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Spoken like someone with few short years of knowledge and experience in comparison and a "modern" take on reality.

In other words, utter piiissh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah cheap housing, cheap food, cheap everything.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

I rest my case
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, record unemployment, record interest rates and strikes every other week.

Life was a doddle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You old people had it far easier than young people, you just don't like being called out for wrecking things for the next generations to clean up your chit.
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Being expected to leave home as soon as you hit your 20's made people generally more resiliant. The situation where people live with their parents until they're 30+ has taken away the idea that you're actually responsible for yourself.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 4 minutes ago
Please tell me how we reverse the average house price in the UK of 360k?
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WW3?

I'm sure moving out in your 20s when it was financially viable to do so made you think all that chit you just chatted was true. As it goes it isn't. Your generation just had it much much easier.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Furthermore, commitment to imaginary lies on a map is a bit stupid, very slowly going out of fashion and starting to look like a ridiculous concept.

It was useful until a certain point but its outlived its usefulness to the human race and 5s looking more and more like an impediment than a benefit to global success and prosperity.

When compared to the concept of the oneness of the human race, and when you consider that the world is now a small village where people are rushing from one side to the other and all over then patriotism can be argued to be a thick as fack concept.

Its also futile. When pandemics strike they no longer recognise borders. The black plague never left Europe. It was a different world where patriotism meant a lot more than it does now. If the plague happened today the whole world would be facked because we are now a village, uniformly impacted in every country by even by financial crises.

I could go on but I guess my point is that patriotism being a dirty word isn't exactly an absurd concept. In fact, patriotism is stupid, humanity just hasn't realised that fact yet.

I will admit I see overly patriotic people as being the more stupid people in society, the kind who score less in IQ tests etc, helping to hold humanity back from greater things.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You could go on, and do go on in fact.
I patriotism is loving the country you were born in ,I see nothing wrong in it.
Using it to fight with or denigate other people is wrong imo.
I have genrally found that people who have a view of the world that only a few others share, who believe the majority are too stupid to understand have a much lower IQ than the rest, and have an itellectual arrogance that is based on nearly nothing.

Still, none of it's my roblem, as old age part 2 will show;
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why has it been weaponised by the far right?
Vidischin won't answer that. Young punk that he is.
---------------------------------------------------------------
I can't answer either because I don't know. I'm quite willing to learn though..i maybe wrong but it seems as though the US is far more patriotic than the Brits. I think, but could be wrong, that at school you have to sing America my country. Also you see flags everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you equate flag shegging to patriotism?
Oh and your view that NYT is somehow left of centre is actually laughable.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 10 minutes ago
Please tell me how we reverse the average house price in the UK of 360k?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Release more building land. Give builders targets and incentives to provide more homes. Build council houses, tenants will then have security. Private landlords will have less tenants so will have to sell some of their houses, again increasing the number of houses for sale.
Houses are expensive because there aren't enough of them.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by 🇺🇦 Boris 'Inky' Gibson 🇺🇦 (U5901)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 25 seconds ago
yeah your generation got extremely lucky with the whole retirement thing, ours, not so much.
-----------------------
The older generation all started work at fithteen and put in their fivty years,today many youngsters start employment in their twenties, full of education but lacking common sense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah your generation also got a much better quality of life, so ya know swings and roundabouts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Spoken like someone with few short years of knowledge and experience in comparison and a "modern" take on reality.

In other words, utter piiissh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah cheap housing, cheap food, cheap everything.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

I rest my case
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, record unemployment, record interest rates and strikes every other week.

Life was a doddle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You old people had it far easier than young people, you just don't like being called out for wrecking things for the next generations to clean up your chit.
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Set up a go fund mepage. Maybe raise enough to buy a mop. Oh you havent cleaned anything up. And you won't.

Yeah the hosting market is never gonna go down it was rhetorical

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Furthermore, commitment to imaginary lies on a map is a bit stupid, very slowly going out of fashion and starting to look like a ridiculous concept.

It was useful until a certain point but its outlived its usefulness to the human race and 5s looking more and more like an impediment than a benefit to global success and prosperity.

When compared to the concept of the oneness of the human race, and when you consider that the world is now a small village where people are rushing from one side to the other and all over then patriotism can be argued to be a thick as fack concept.

Its also futile. When pandemics strike they no longer recognise borders. The black plague never left Europe. It was a different world where patriotism meant a lot more than it does now. If the plague happened today the whole world would be facked because we are now a village, uniformly impacted in every country by even by financial crises.

I could go on but I guess my point is that patriotism being a dirty word isn't exactly an absurd concept. In fact, patriotism is stupid, humanity just hasn't realised that fact yet.

I will admit I see overly patriotic people as being the more stupid people in society, the kind who score less in IQ tests etc, helping to hold humanity back from greater things.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You could go on, and do go on in fact.
I patriotism is loving the country you were born in ,I see nothing wrong in it.
Using it to fight with or denigate other people is wrong imo.
I have genrally found that people who have a view of the world that only a few others share, who believe the majority are too stupid to understand have a much lower IQ than the rest, and have an itellectual arrogance that is based on nearly nothing.

Still, none of it's my roblem, as old age part 2 will show;
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why has it been weaponised by the far right?
Vidischin won't answer that. Young punk that he is.
---------------------------------------------------------------
I can't answer either because I don't know. I'm quite willing to learn though..i maybe wrong but it seems as though the US is far more patriotic than the Brits. I think, but could be wrong, that at school you have to sing America my country. Also you see flags everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you equate flag shegging to patriotism?
Oh and your view that NYT is somehow left of centre is actually laughable.
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No its not laughable, it's true. It could have been different but since I took out a subscription and started reading it regularly, it is left of centre.
I don't know what shegging means.
And the singing at school?

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by 🇺🇦 Boris 'Inky' Gibson 🇺🇦 (U5901)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 25 seconds ago
yeah your generation got extremely lucky with the whole retirement thing, ours, not so much.
-----------------------
The older generation all started work at fithteen and put in their fivty years,today many youngsters start employment in their twenties, full of education but lacking common sense.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah your generation also got a much better quality of life, so ya know swings and roundabouts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Spoken like someone with few short years of knowledge and experience in comparison and a "modern" take on reality.

In other words, utter piiissh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah cheap housing, cheap food, cheap everything.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

I rest my case
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, record unemployment, record interest rates and strikes every other week.

Life was a doddle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You old people had it far easier than young people, you just don't like being called out for wrecking things for the next generations to clean up your chit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Set up a go fund mepage. Maybe raise enough to buy a mop. Oh you havent cleaned anything up.And you won't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Because you clowns effed it up so bad it's not possible. And this young hate the old.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 10 minutes ago
Please tell me how we reverse the average house price in the UK of 360k?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Release more building land. Give builders targets and incentives to provide more homes. Build council houses, tenants will then have security. Private landlords will have less tenants so will have to sell some of their houses, again increasing the number of houses for sale.
Houses are expensive because there aren't enough of them.
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And stop voting fekin Tory.

Last thing the country needs is more land built on and more council houses. They are terribly made.

I have never voted tory in my life but I also can't vote Labour. So rock meet hard place.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Furthermore, commitment to imaginary lies on a map is a bit stupid, very slowly going out of fashion and starting to look like a ridiculous concept.

It was useful until a certain point but its outlived its usefulness to the human race and 5s looking more and more like an impediment than a benefit to global success and prosperity.

When compared to the concept of the oneness of the human race, and when you consider that the world is now a small village where people are rushing from one side to the other and all over then patriotism can be argued to be a thick as fack concept.

Its also futile. When pandemics strike they no longer recognise borders. The black plague never left Europe. It was a different world where patriotism meant a lot more than it does now. If the plague happened today the whole world would be facked because we are now a village, uniformly impacted in every country by even by financial crises.

I could go on but I guess my point is that patriotism being a dirty word isn't exactly an absurd concept. In fact, patriotism is stupid, humanity just hasn't realised that fact yet.

I will admit I see overly patriotic people as being the more stupid people in society, the kind who score less in IQ tests etc, helping to hold humanity back from greater things.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You could go on, and do go on in fact.
I patriotism is loving the country you were born in ,I see nothing wrong in it.
Using it to fight with or denigate other people is wrong imo.
I have genrally found that people who have a view of the world that only a few others share, who believe the majority are too stupid to understand have a much lower IQ than the rest, and have an itellectual arrogance that is based on nearly nothing.

Still, none of it's my roblem, as old age part 2 will show;
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why has it been weaponised by the far right?
Vidischin won't answer that. Young punk that he is.
---------------------------------------------------------------
I can't answer either because I don't know. I'm quite willing to learn though..i maybe wrong but it seems as though the US is far more patriotic than the Brits. I think, but could be wrong, that at school you have to sing America my country. Also you see flags everywhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you equate flag shegging to patriotism?
Oh and your view that NYT is somehow left of centre is actually laughable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No its not laughable, it's true. It could have been different but since I took out a subscription and started reading it regularly, it is left of centre.
I don't know what shegging means.
And the singing at school?
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Replace the "e" with an "a". If you still don't know your too old and probably forgot.

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 10 minutes ago
Please tell me how we reverse the average house price in the UK of 360k?


Says it all, you immediately want to move into an 'average house' in the SE of England.

comment by 🇺🇦 Boris 'Inky' Gibson 🇺🇦 (U5901)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 10 minutes ago
Please tell me how we reverse the average house price in the UK of 360k?


Says it all, you immediately want to move into an 'average house' in the SE of England.
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Yes, imagine not wanting to live in a dingy chithole, far away from I'm from and work 😵‍💫 donut.

Oh, 52. The singing at school?
I went to Catholic school we sang hymns every day.
I am now a devout atheist. So I don't know what making kids sing the national anthem would do.
You're old enough to remember GSTQ maybe even TK in cinemas at the end. Did that do anything to encourage patriotism?