comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
I’d be astounded if we got involved in a military ‘boots on the ground’ sense. So much damage has been done already to the Ukraine that if we suddenly declared now that we were taking military action then there would be massive criticism of too little too late.
If Russia do decide to ‘retaliate’ against the west for perceived interference then it’ll likely be in the form of cyber attacks. Imo.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
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Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
We chose our wars relative to the booty we can get out of it.
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
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Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
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The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
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Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
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The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
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Didn't he say yesterday that if Russia is not in the world cup then there will be no world cup 🤔
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
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Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
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The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
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Of course he has. That’s just him trying to drum up support from his own people, blaming the West for making them poor, rather than blaming himself.
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
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Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
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The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
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Didn't he say yesterday that if Russia is not in the world cup then there will be no world cup 🤔
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How’s he going to pull that one off? Invade Qatar?
If the UK get attacked in any way then the US (plus others but that's pretty irrelevant) get involved and then Russia are screwed. The US spend more on their military than the other top ten combined or something. They can literally take anyone on in a full face to face confrontation. Russia and Putin know that's never going to end well for them.
While he may come across as mad ultimately Putin is in it for the power and there's no power in having your country decimated by a nuclear onslaught from the rest of the world. There's no point being a corrupt dictator if you're personal billions become meaningless over night.
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
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Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
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The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
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Didn't he say yesterday that if Russia is not in the world cup then there will be no world cup 🤔
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How’s he going to pull that one off? Invade Qatar?
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Cyber attacks, bomb threads, terrorist acts, etc. lot of stuff he can do without invading Quatar
comment by One Montage - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't he say yesterday that if Russia is not in the world cup then there will be no world cup 🤔
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How’s he going to pull that one off? Invade Qatar?
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Cyber attacks, bomb threads, terrorist acts, etc. lot of stuff he can do without invading Quatar
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And have the whole world turn on him unequivocally? No chance.
If it helps putting your mind at rest, IMO a nuclear option will never be used by Putin (unless he goes completely full Tonto).
A first strike by Russia will indeed be catastrophic but Russia know it will be the end of their lives as they know it.
The UK permanently has one Vanguard class Submarine on patrol 365 days a year, each one carries up to 16 Trident missiles, which can carry up to 14/15 Multiple Independent Re-entry Vehicles (MIRV).
Any nuclear attack on us still gives enough time to signal off firing orders which will be picked up the next time the Submarine receives transmissions.
That one Submarine alone will be able to inflict enough devastion on Russia to make a first strike sheer lunacy, not withstanding the US (who have 14 Trident Submarines) would undoubtedly release their own nuclear response.
In brief any nuclear attack from either side will assure mutual destruction for both sides.
Thanks for all the replies
✌️🙏
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 48 minutes ago
If the UK get attacked in any way then the US (plus others but that's pretty irrelevant) get involved and then Russia are screwed. The US spend more on their military than the other top ten combined or something. They can literally take anyone on in a full face to face confrontation. Russia and Putin know that's never going to end well for them.
While he may come across as mad ultimately Putin is in it for the power and there's no power in having your country decimated by a nuclear onslaught from the rest of the world. There's no point being a corrupt dictator if you're personal billions become meaningless over night.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia have 6257 nuclear hypersonic weapons which are stationed in Siberia and near Europe. The US have 5000.
One press on the button and we are all gone.
I don't think the US are dumb enough to take those risks.
The only solution is peace or a treaty whereby Ukraine will be a neutral state.
I think it all depends on what happens post Ukraine - will he go to Moldova etc. If he goes for a NATO country then we all get dragged in.
However, apart from smaller tactical nuclear strikes, I can’t see Putin ever been mad enough to use full nuclear weapons - I also think his own side would take him out before it came to that.
The other elephant in the room is China - the US doubled their military presence in Taiwan in 2021. China aren’t showing the prem this weekend due to the shows of support to the Ukrainian people. Quite frankly, the Chinese are a far bigger deal than the Russians these days.
Finally you have the North Koreans with a 26 million strong peoples army. America having a big presence in Japan and South Korea doesn’t help the minds of these other paranoid leaders.
All in, I don’t think it will come to it, but this arguably the closest we have come to a full war since the 80’s
It’s not gonna come to that. Putin has a long-term goal for Russia and he knows nato involvement would be the end of him, that’s why he’s making these daft threats.
It doesn’t help if you’re on UK news websites where the focus will be on us 24/7. The whole world is responding.
My advice would be to relax, focus on a good book/film, your job, hobbies, getting out and about and you’ll feel loads better. Try and disconnect from the news, it is obviously all going to be negative at the moment. This will likely run and run for months before certain negotiations are reached.
On August 29th 2022 it's going to feel pretty fuсking real to you too!
Anyone not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 8 minutes ago
On August 29th 2022 it's going to feel pretty fuсking real to you too!
Anyone not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?
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Why that date?
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - A... (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 8 minutes ago
On August 29th 2022 it's going to feel pretty fuсking real to you too!
Anyone not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why that date?
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You not seen Terminator 2?
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - A... (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 8 minutes ago
On August 29th 2022 it's going to feel pretty fuсking real to you too!
Anyone not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why that date?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You not seen Terminator 2?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was wondering what the reference was myself I doubt many of us have that date etched into our memories!
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - A... (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 8 minutes ago
On August 29th 2022 it's going to feel pretty fuсking real to you too!
Anyone not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why that date?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You not seen Terminator 2?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was wondering what the reference was myselfI doubt many of us have that date etched into our memories!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well the actual date was August 29th 1997, but that didn't make much sense
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 1 day, 8 hours ago
If the UK get attacked in any way then the US (plus others but that's pretty irrelevant) get involved and then Russia are screwed. The US spend more on their military than the other top ten combined or something. They can literally take anyone on in a full face to face confrontation. Russia and Putin know that's never going to end well for them.
While he may come across as mad ultimately Putin is in it for the power and there's no power in having your country decimated by a nuclear onslaught from the rest of the world. There's no point being a corrupt dictator if you're personal billions become meaningless over night.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia have enough nukes at sea to take us all out.
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posted on 6/3/22
We won't get involved
posted on 6/3/22
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
posted on 6/3/22
I’d be astounded if we got involved in a military ‘boots on the ground’ sense. So much damage has been done already to the Ukraine that if we suddenly declared now that we were taking military action then there would be massive criticism of too little too late.
If Russia do decide to ‘retaliate’ against the west for perceived interference then it’ll likely be in the form of cyber attacks. Imo.
posted on 6/3/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
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Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
posted on 6/3/22
We chose our wars relative to the booty we can get out of it.
posted on 6/3/22
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
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Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
posted on 6/3/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We already are!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't he say yesterday that if Russia is not in the world cup then there will be no world cup 🤔
posted on 6/3/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We already are!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course he has. That’s just him trying to drum up support from his own people, blaming the West for making them poor, rather than blaming himself.
posted on 6/3/22
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We already are!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't he say yesterday that if Russia is not in the world cup then there will be no world cup 🤔
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How’s he going to pull that one off? Invade Qatar?
posted on 6/3/22
If the UK get attacked in any way then the US (plus others but that's pretty irrelevant) get involved and then Russia are screwed. The US spend more on their military than the other top ten combined or something. They can literally take anyone on in a full face to face confrontation. Russia and Putin know that's never going to end well for them.
While he may come across as mad ultimately Putin is in it for the power and there's no power in having your country decimated by a nuclear onslaught from the rest of the world. There's no point being a corrupt dictator if you're personal billions become meaningless over night.
posted on 6/3/22
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
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We already are!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't he say yesterday that if Russia is not in the world cup then there will be no world cup 🤔
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How’s he going to pull that one off? Invade Qatar?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cyber attacks, bomb threads, terrorist acts, etc. lot of stuff he can do without invading Quatar
posted on 6/3/22
comment by One Montage - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 5 minutes ago
We won't get involved
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We already are!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doing the minimum. Act of war will be if we start military engagement with them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The mad bastirt has already said he considers the sanctions as an act of war.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Didn't he say yesterday that if Russia is not in the world cup then there will be no world cup 🤔
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How’s he going to pull that one off? Invade Qatar?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cyber attacks, bomb threads, terrorist acts, etc. lot of stuff he can do without invading Quatar
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And have the whole world turn on him unequivocally? No chance.
posted on 6/3/22
If it helps putting your mind at rest, IMO a nuclear option will never be used by Putin (unless he goes completely full Tonto).
A first strike by Russia will indeed be catastrophic but Russia know it will be the end of their lives as they know it.
The UK permanently has one Vanguard class Submarine on patrol 365 days a year, each one carries up to 16 Trident missiles, which can carry up to 14/15 Multiple Independent Re-entry Vehicles (MIRV).
Any nuclear attack on us still gives enough time to signal off firing orders which will be picked up the next time the Submarine receives transmissions.
That one Submarine alone will be able to inflict enough devastion on Russia to make a first strike sheer lunacy, not withstanding the US (who have 14 Trident Submarines) would undoubtedly release their own nuclear response.
In brief any nuclear attack from either side will assure mutual destruction for both sides.
posted on 6/3/22
Thanks for all the replies
✌️🙏
posted on 6/3/22
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 48 minutes ago
If the UK get attacked in any way then the US (plus others but that's pretty irrelevant) get involved and then Russia are screwed. The US spend more on their military than the other top ten combined or something. They can literally take anyone on in a full face to face confrontation. Russia and Putin know that's never going to end well for them.
While he may come across as mad ultimately Putin is in it for the power and there's no power in having your country decimated by a nuclear onslaught from the rest of the world. There's no point being a corrupt dictator if you're personal billions become meaningless over night.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia have 6257 nuclear hypersonic weapons which are stationed in Siberia and near Europe. The US have 5000.
One press on the button and we are all gone.
I don't think the US are dumb enough to take those risks.
The only solution is peace or a treaty whereby Ukraine will be a neutral state.
posted on 6/3/22
I think it all depends on what happens post Ukraine - will he go to Moldova etc. If he goes for a NATO country then we all get dragged in.
However, apart from smaller tactical nuclear strikes, I can’t see Putin ever been mad enough to use full nuclear weapons - I also think his own side would take him out before it came to that.
The other elephant in the room is China - the US doubled their military presence in Taiwan in 2021. China aren’t showing the prem this weekend due to the shows of support to the Ukrainian people. Quite frankly, the Chinese are a far bigger deal than the Russians these days.
Finally you have the North Koreans with a 26 million strong peoples army. America having a big presence in Japan and South Korea doesn’t help the minds of these other paranoid leaders.
All in, I don’t think it will come to it, but this arguably the closest we have come to a full war since the 80’s
posted on 6/3/22
It’s not gonna come to that. Putin has a long-term goal for Russia and he knows nato involvement would be the end of him, that’s why he’s making these daft threats.
It doesn’t help if you’re on UK news websites where the focus will be on us 24/7. The whole world is responding.
My advice would be to relax, focus on a good book/film, your job, hobbies, getting out and about and you’ll feel loads better. Try and disconnect from the news, it is obviously all going to be negative at the moment. This will likely run and run for months before certain negotiations are reached.
posted on 6/3/22
On August 29th 2022 it's going to feel pretty fuсking real to you too!
Anyone not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?
posted on 6/3/22
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 8 minutes ago
On August 29th 2022 it's going to feel pretty fuсking real to you too!
Anyone not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why that date?
posted on 6/3/22
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - A... (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 8 minutes ago
On August 29th 2022 it's going to feel pretty fuсking real to you too!
Anyone not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why that date?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You not seen Terminator 2?
posted on 6/3/22
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - A... (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 8 minutes ago
On August 29th 2022 it's going to feel pretty fuсking real to you too!
Anyone not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why that date?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You not seen Terminator 2?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was wondering what the reference was myself I doubt many of us have that date etched into our memories!
posted on 6/3/22
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - A... (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 8 minutes ago
On August 29th 2022 it's going to feel pretty fuсking real to you too!
Anyone not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day, get it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why that date?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You not seen Terminator 2?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was wondering what the reference was myselfI doubt many of us have that date etched into our memories!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well the actual date was August 29th 1997, but that didn't make much sense
posted on 7/3/22
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 1 day, 8 hours ago
If the UK get attacked in any way then the US (plus others but that's pretty irrelevant) get involved and then Russia are screwed. The US spend more on their military than the other top ten combined or something. They can literally take anyone on in a full face to face confrontation. Russia and Putin know that's never going to end well for them.
While he may come across as mad ultimately Putin is in it for the power and there's no power in having your country decimated by a nuclear onslaught from the rest of the world. There's no point being a corrupt dictator if you're personal billions become meaningless over night.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia have enough nukes at sea to take us all out.
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