He's improved since christmas.
like a thoroughbred smelling a race
but the deeper point is that they ALL have the smell of blood in their nostrils. Fabinho has improved, robertson has improved, henderson has improved.
alisson is frankly astonishingly good.
the whole team has gone on this run of form that has brought the side back into contention in the league and continued the cup runs going.
Liverpool hzve done fantastically well, but it’s mental you haven’t conceded goals with the recent chances chelsea, West Ham, Brighton and others have had. I chose Liverpool before the season to win the league. The city game is teeing up to be massive
VVD is a key man but putting the ball in the net is still the hardest art. Would have been interesting to see how we fared if Matip and Gomez remained fit after VVD ACL. We were coping with just Matip before Xmas but when he went we then went on a slump.
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
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Jesus Christ lol
Still get quite frustrated at how casual he can be at times but he's only casual because frankly he's the best player on the park at any one time.
Attackers that would usually dominate a defender shiiiit themselves when up against VVD, he's always two steps ahead.
Best defender I've seen at Liverpool and I include Hyypia in that. Absolute Rolls Royce.
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
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What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
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Jesus Christ lol
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Yeah this is way too far
I hate the bloke but Sol Campbell was better
Rio was also better
Best player over the last 4 years? Come on
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
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What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
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My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
Will never forget him beating Adama Traore in a foot race.
Or Dzeko not even bothering to chase through balls after Virgil made up 5 yards on him the first race.
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
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Messi, Kane, Ronaldo, Suarez not good enough?
Get the fack off the forum culer you idiot.
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesus Christ lol
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Yeah this is way too far
I hate the bloke but Sol Campbell was better
Rio was also better
Best player over the last 4 years? Come on
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No… just no with the Sol Campbell shout. Rio we can at least have a chat but come on
comment by Luke Combs (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
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My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
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Messi, Kane, Ronaldo, Suarez not good enough?
Get the fack off the forum culer you idiot.
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Messi isn't a striker
I already said Kane
He's played against Ronaldo once in the EPL
Suarez in 2019 was past it
Next please?
think if i did an all time PL XI it would have Rio and VVD in, so elegant for defenders yet so tall and dominant. Nothing would get past them and no slide tackle would be made between them all season
Toby A was similar but didnt have the pace and aerial dominance of these guys
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luke Combs (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
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Messi, Kane, Ronaldo, Suarez not good enough?
Get the fack off the forum culer you idiot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi isn't a striker
I already said Kane
He's played against Ronaldo once in the EPL
Suarez in 2019 was past it
Next please?
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comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesus Christ lol
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah this is way too far
I hate the bloke but Sol Campbell was better
Rio was also better
Best player over the last 4 years? Come on
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No… just no with the Sol Campbell shout. Rio we can at least have a chat but come on
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Sol Campbell was an absolute beast and a rock
One of the main reasons arsenal went unbeaten that season
He didn’t have the finesse of Rio and vvd but he was quicker and virtually never lost a header
I still hate him ! Hate!
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 minutes ago
Toby A was similar but didnt have the pace and aerial dominance of these guys
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I think Ledley king would have surpassed everyone if it wasn’t for his knees
Now he was a rolls Royce of a defender
Effortless
Rio, king and VVD in a 3 at the back
That’s some defence
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luke Combs (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi, Kane, Ronaldo, Suarez not good enough?
Get the fack off the forum culer you idiot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi isn't a striker
I already said Kane
He's played against Ronaldo once in the EPL
Suarez in 2019 was past it
Next please?
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The Suarez in 2019 scored 1 UCL goal in about 10 games.... his burst of speed had gone. Nowhere near the same player as he was in 2014.
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 48 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
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Picking him purely because he's the first one on your list but Vidic never played against Hasselbaink, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp either.
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi, Kane, Ronaldo, Suarez not good enough?
Get the fack off the forum culer you idiot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi isn't a striker
I already said Kane
He's played against Ronaldo once in the EPL
Suarez in 2019 was past it
Next please?
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Suarez.........
YEAR----APPS-----GOALS.
18-19-----49------------25
19-20-----36------------21
20-21-----38------------21
You wish you had a 'past it' player this good
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 48 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
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Picking him purely because he's the first one on your list but Vidic never played against Hasselbaink, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp either.
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Vidic played against:
Prime Henry
Prime Drogba
Prime Torres
Prime Tevez
Prime Zlatan
Prime Eto'o
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
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Mbappe, Lewandowski, Gnabry, Messi all easily better over that time. That’s just off the top.
Also, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Sol Campbell was better than VVD.
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posted on 29/3/22
He's improved since christmas.
like a thoroughbred smelling a race
but the deeper point is that they ALL have the smell of blood in their nostrils. Fabinho has improved, robertson has improved, henderson has improved.
alisson is frankly astonishingly good.
the whole team has gone on this run of form that has brought the side back into contention in the league and continued the cup runs going.
posted on 29/3/22
Liverpool hzve done fantastically well, but it’s mental you haven’t conceded goals with the recent chances chelsea, West Ham, Brighton and others have had. I chose Liverpool before the season to win the league. The city game is teeing up to be massive
posted on 29/3/22
VVD is a key man but putting the ball in the net is still the hardest art. Would have been interesting to see how we fared if Matip and Gomez remained fit after VVD ACL. We were coping with just Matip before Xmas but when he went we then went on a slump.
posted on 29/3/22
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
posted on 29/3/22
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesus Christ lol
posted on 29/3/22
Still get quite frustrated at how casual he can be at times but he's only casual because frankly he's the best player on the park at any one time.
Attackers that would usually dominate a defender shiiiit themselves when up against VVD, he's always two steps ahead.
Best defender I've seen at Liverpool and I include Hyypia in that. Absolute Rolls Royce.
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesus Christ lol
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah this is way too far
I hate the bloke but Sol Campbell was better
Rio was also better
Best player over the last 4 years? Come on
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
posted on 29/3/22
Will never forget him beating Adama Traore in a foot race.
Or Dzeko not even bothering to chase through balls after Virgil made up 5 yards on him the first race.
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi, Kane, Ronaldo, Suarez not good enough?
Get the fack off the forum culer you idiot.
posted on 29/3/22
poor mans Romero
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesus Christ lol
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah this is way too far
I hate the bloke but Sol Campbell was better
Rio was also better
Best player over the last 4 years? Come on
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No… just no with the Sol Campbell shout. Rio we can at least have a chat but come on
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Luke Combs (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi, Kane, Ronaldo, Suarez not good enough?
Get the fack off the forum culer you idiot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi isn't a striker
I already said Kane
He's played against Ronaldo once in the EPL
Suarez in 2019 was past it
Next please?
posted on 29/3/22
think if i did an all time PL XI it would have Rio and VVD in, so elegant for defenders yet so tall and dominant. Nothing would get past them and no slide tackle would be made between them all season
posted on 29/3/22
Toby A was similar but didnt have the pace and aerial dominance of these guys
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luke Combs (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi, Kane, Ronaldo, Suarez not good enough?
Get the fack off the forum culer you idiot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi isn't a striker
I already said Kane
He's played against Ronaldo once in the EPL
Suarez in 2019 was past it
Next please?
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posted on 29/3/22
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesus Christ lol
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah this is way too far
I hate the bloke but Sol Campbell was better
Rio was also better
Best player over the last 4 years? Come on
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No… just no with the Sol Campbell shout. Rio we can at least have a chat but come on
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sol Campbell was an absolute beast and a rock
One of the main reasons arsenal went unbeaten that season
He didn’t have the finesse of Rio and vvd but he was quicker and virtually never lost a header
I still hate him ! Hate!
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 minutes ago
Toby A was similar but didnt have the pace and aerial dominance of these guys
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I think Ledley king would have surpassed everyone if it wasn’t for his knees
Now he was a rolls Royce of a defender
Effortless
Rio, king and VVD in a 3 at the back
That’s some defence
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luke Combs (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi, Kane, Ronaldo, Suarez not good enough?
Get the fack off the forum culer you idiot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi isn't a striker
I already said Kane
He's played against Ronaldo once in the EPL
Suarez in 2019 was past it
Next please?
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The Suarez in 2019 scored 1 UCL goal in about 10 games.... his burst of speed had gone. Nowhere near the same player as he was in 2014.
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 48 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
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Picking him purely because he's the first one on your list but Vidic never played against Hasselbaink, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp either.
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What list? There is no list above.
It is the strikers you mentioned that played against defenders inferior to VVD, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that it's easier for VVD to look better against the level of strikers now compared to say 10 or so years ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi, Kane, Ronaldo, Suarez not good enough?
Get the fack off the forum culer you idiot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Messi isn't a striker
I already said Kane
He's played against Ronaldo once in the EPL
Suarez in 2019 was past it
Next please?
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Suarez.........
YEAR----APPS-----GOALS.
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You wish you had a 'past it' player this good
posted on 29/3/22
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Culèr The Brand ✅ (U9489)
posted 48 minutes ago
He's very good. On the other hand though, is it not fair to say that he's not playing against the same level of striker that the likes of Vidic, Adams, Terry, Ferdinand and so on played against?
Out of all time EPL great strikers he's faced Kane + Aguero.
The list above had to deal with the likes of Shearer, Drogba, Henry, Hasselbaink, Torres, Anelka, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp, Fowler etc
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Picking him purely because he's the first one on your list but Vidic never played against Hasselbaink, Cole, Yorke, RVN, Owen, Rooney, Bergkamp either.
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Vidic played against:
Prime Henry
Prime Drogba
Prime Torres
Prime Tevez
Prime Zlatan
Prime Eto'o
posted on 29/3/22
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
I've never seen a defender play at a higher level.
Arguably the best player in the world over the last 4 years. But for injury it'd be certain
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Mbappe, Lewandowski, Gnabry, Messi all easily better over that time. That’s just off the top.
Also, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Sol Campbell was better than VVD.
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