Brighton are a very good team.
Leeds Utd are a very poor team.
Realistically, I can see only one result and that’s a Brighton win.
The futures looking grim lads but, yum Mustn’t gwumble!
Got to stop coming on here. The more I read, the worse it seems to get. Death by a thousand cuts.
As with most aspects of life actions count a whole lot more than words and I regret to say that there's evidence building that the longer he has had time with our squad to implement his way of doing things the worse we have actually become.
So Jonty, I think we’ve all established he has a slack jaw and also that you’re not a fan. But it seems we’re dissecting every word now in an attempt to ridicule.
He’s saying
- Brighton definitely won’t be on the beach.
- Brighton mix things up a lot so they’re not easy to prepare for
- as a coaching team they’re self-analytical and reflect on what they see on the pitch and ask themselves what they can do better.
- biggest game…yeh not a coherent answer to a stupid question
Not much in there, unless you’re looking for it in my view.
I know exactly how you feel Jaz63. Over the last few weeks I have tried to take a step back for a number of reasons from all this but what is so very frustrating is that the situation we are in was very preventable but a series of misjudgements and rank poor decision making from the key people involved at the club strategically have left to the scenario that is unfolding. Like all fans now we can only hope we get away with it.
Rob, I've also taken a step back because no matter how many times I process our situation, the answers to why we are in this predicament are always the same, and well known to all. I'm simply waiting for what I believe is the inevitable, relegation to the Championship and a long stint away from a return to the Premier League.
The more he speaks the more depressed I feel….
He also said it’s not a must-win and that we only need 1 point for survival.. not sure motivating the Burnley and Everton players like that is wise
Utterly clueless and out of his depth
I'm trying to figure myself out. How can I still hope that we will pull off a convincing win away at Brighton? I'm not talking about scraping by and parking the bus.
I understand the Bielsa era has unrealistically raised our expectation levels. But nothing could have prepared us for the auto-imploding headlesschickenball served up under Marsch. Yes, he had a very tough brief, the toughest imaginable - but he is blowing it in spectacular style, it seems to me.
Sickening disappointment.
I keep going back to the fact that he's working with a group of players who have been brilliantly and meticulously coached to play one system for three plus
years. So much so they could perform in their sleep.
Now, under massive pressure Marsch is asking them to
transition to a new system. And you can see in their
play that they 'stop start' in the flow of a game. They
look confused. Understandable.
After hearing from Don yesterday I'm more inclined to
give Marsch the summer. He clearly needs players
who can play his system (they're out there). And time
to instill his system into those players that stay.
I know he rubs quite a few the wrong way. However,
it's highly likely the club backs him fully. I'm willing
to give him the benefit and give him a chance beyond
this cauldron of a season. Whether we stay up or drop.
It is our biggest game in years. When was the last time we played in a game that dictated whether we get relegated from the Premier league.....
The football under Marsch has been dire, but these aren't his players and I can't see how anyone could get mych more out of a team of championship/league 1 players against Man C, Chelsea and Arsenal.
Look he may be a terrible manager out of his depth. But the fact he talks too much for most people’s taste or that his side can’t string a pass together after 2 months really isn’t an accurate indicator under the circumstances he walked into.
Eddie Howe, first 10 games at Newcastle 8 points. The 11th game they were garbage at Elland road and we gifted them the points. That along with a transfer window and their form picked up.
Marsch first 10 games 11 points.
Eddie Howe, first 10 games at Newcastle 8 points. The 11th game they were garbage at Elland road and we gifted them the points. That along with a transfer window and their form picked up.
Marsch first 10 games 11 points.
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Unfortunately there isn’t a transfer window to help us! Newcastle signed some decent players, who made a difference, in January - Trippier, for example, played well against us and didn’t let Harrison have a sniff. The game before Harrison had scored a hat-trick against West Ham (I think it was WH).
I still blame the transfer windows’ inactivity for the position we are in.
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
So Jonty, I think we’ve all established he has a slack jaw and also that you’re not a fan. But it seems we’re dissecting every word now in an attempt to ridicule.
He’s saying
- Brighton definitely won’t be on the beach.
- Brighton mix things up a lot so they’re not easy to prepare for
- as a coaching team they’re self-analytical and reflect on what they see on the pitch and ask themselves what they can do better.
- biggest game…yeh not a coherent answer to a stupid question
Not much in there, unless you’re looking for it in my view.
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Its not about ridicule, but highlighting his style of communication, which I personally dont think will work for players and doesnt seem to be working with most fans.
Biggest game in years?
I haven’t been here so it’s hard for me to reflect on that. I watched the documentary before I came
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Bielsa watched every minute of every match including pre season before the interview and even had the blueprints for Thorp Arch.
Jesse's watched an Amazon series on us.
You can see how he works, it’s all motivational. Players coming out chasing around like headless chickens and putting in overly aggressive tackles.
It’ll only wash for so long before players lose confidence in him and we’re already way past that point, so what now? I can’t see anything in his tactics.
What was the point of sacking Bielsa, to bring in an inferior coach? As good a business as the Dan James deal. Clueless
Good point, Jonty. Have a look at what Mike Jackson says about Burnley:
'You try and work as hard as you can, you try and do the best that you can, and I think that's all that anyone can ever ask of you.
'That's what we've tried to do here, we ask that of the players and the staff, and if you keep working along those lines of what we're about – the hard work to even compete at this level – that's the main thing.
'The players have really worked hard over the last few weeks, not just physically, it's the mental side of it as well. In the last few weeks, they've been through a lot but that brings them closer together, it brings the whole place together.'
This is clear-minded unfussy positivity. He knows what he's got, he understands the challenge facing the team, and he trusts his players.
The only ray of hope for us is that he did get Manager of the Month for April. Kiss of death for many a manager better than Mike Jackson.
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 12 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
So Jonty, I think we’ve all established he has a slack jaw and also that you’re not a fan. But it seems we’re dissecting every word now in an attempt to ridicule.
He’s saying
- Brighton definitely won’t be on the beach.
- Brighton mix things up a lot so they’re not easy to prepare for
- as a coaching team they’re self-analytical and reflect on what they see on the pitch and ask themselves what they can do better.
- biggest game…yeh not a coherent answer to a stupid question
Not much in there, unless you’re looking for it in my view.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its not about ridicule, but highlighting his style of communication, which I personally dont think will work for players and doesnt seem to be working with most fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve no idea what they think of him… and we Brits are a cynical bunch with an acute bullsh*t radar, so I’m not providing this as evidence against just as balance:
Erring haarland: “Jesse and I had a great relationship. We still talk on the phone sometimes. He was an amazing manager for me, and we had some great memories together. He’s an amazing guy.
Fabrizio Romano:
‘from the players’ side, I have very good feedback on Marsch, they love his approach, love his ideas and love his methods’
As an aside the Romano interview that’s taken from is interesting - romano was worried about the JM’s appointment as he said the ‘criticism’ of him is it can take time for him to get his ideas across - and Leeds didn’t have time. The problem he had at Leipzig was turning a possession based side into a high energy, high press team.
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posted on 14/5/22
Brighton are a very good team.
Leeds Utd are a very poor team.
Realistically, I can see only one result and that’s a Brighton win.
The futures looking grim lads but, yum Mustn’t gwumble!
posted on 14/5/22
Got to stop coming on here. The more I read, the worse it seems to get. Death by a thousand cuts.
posted on 14/5/22
As with most aspects of life actions count a whole lot more than words and I regret to say that there's evidence building that the longer he has had time with our squad to implement his way of doing things the worse we have actually become.
posted on 14/5/22
So Jonty, I think we’ve all established he has a slack jaw and also that you’re not a fan. But it seems we’re dissecting every word now in an attempt to ridicule.
He’s saying
- Brighton definitely won’t be on the beach.
- Brighton mix things up a lot so they’re not easy to prepare for
- as a coaching team they’re self-analytical and reflect on what they see on the pitch and ask themselves what they can do better.
- biggest game…yeh not a coherent answer to a stupid question
Not much in there, unless you’re looking for it in my view.
posted on 14/5/22
I know exactly how you feel Jaz63. Over the last few weeks I have tried to take a step back for a number of reasons from all this but what is so very frustrating is that the situation we are in was very preventable but a series of misjudgements and rank poor decision making from the key people involved at the club strategically have left to the scenario that is unfolding. Like all fans now we can only hope we get away with it.
posted on 14/5/22
Rob, I've also taken a step back because no matter how many times I process our situation, the answers to why we are in this predicament are always the same, and well known to all. I'm simply waiting for what I believe is the inevitable, relegation to the Championship and a long stint away from a return to the Premier League.
posted on 14/5/22
The more he speaks the more depressed I feel….
He also said it’s not a must-win and that we only need 1 point for survival.. not sure motivating the Burnley and Everton players like that is wise
Utterly clueless and out of his depth
posted on 14/5/22
I'm trying to figure myself out. How can I still hope that we will pull off a convincing win away at Brighton? I'm not talking about scraping by and parking the bus.
I understand the Bielsa era has unrealistically raised our expectation levels. But nothing could have prepared us for the auto-imploding headlesschickenball served up under Marsch. Yes, he had a very tough brief, the toughest imaginable - but he is blowing it in spectacular style, it seems to me.
Sickening disappointment.
posted on 14/5/22
I keep going back to the fact that he's working with a group of players who have been brilliantly and meticulously coached to play one system for three plus
years. So much so they could perform in their sleep.
Now, under massive pressure Marsch is asking them to
transition to a new system. And you can see in their
play that they 'stop start' in the flow of a game. They
look confused. Understandable.
After hearing from Don yesterday I'm more inclined to
give Marsch the summer. He clearly needs players
who can play his system (they're out there). And time
to instill his system into those players that stay.
I know he rubs quite a few the wrong way. However,
it's highly likely the club backs him fully. I'm willing
to give him the benefit and give him a chance beyond
this cauldron of a season. Whether we stay up or drop.
posted on 14/5/22
It is our biggest game in years. When was the last time we played in a game that dictated whether we get relegated from the Premier league.....
The football under Marsch has been dire, but these aren't his players and I can't see how anyone could get mych more out of a team of championship/league 1 players against Man C, Chelsea and Arsenal.
posted on 14/5/22
Look he may be a terrible manager out of his depth. But the fact he talks too much for most people’s taste or that his side can’t string a pass together after 2 months really isn’t an accurate indicator under the circumstances he walked into.
Eddie Howe, first 10 games at Newcastle 8 points. The 11th game they were garbage at Elland road and we gifted them the points. That along with a transfer window and their form picked up.
Marsch first 10 games 11 points.
posted on 14/5/22
Eddie Howe, first 10 games at Newcastle 8 points. The 11th game they were garbage at Elland road and we gifted them the points. That along with a transfer window and their form picked up.
Marsch first 10 games 11 points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unfortunately there isn’t a transfer window to help us! Newcastle signed some decent players, who made a difference, in January - Trippier, for example, played well against us and didn’t let Harrison have a sniff. The game before Harrison had scored a hat-trick against West Ham (I think it was WH).
I still blame the transfer windows’ inactivity for the position we are in.
posted on 14/5/22
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
So Jonty, I think we’ve all established he has a slack jaw and also that you’re not a fan. But it seems we’re dissecting every word now in an attempt to ridicule.
He’s saying
- Brighton definitely won’t be on the beach.
- Brighton mix things up a lot so they’re not easy to prepare for
- as a coaching team they’re self-analytical and reflect on what they see on the pitch and ask themselves what they can do better.
- biggest game…yeh not a coherent answer to a stupid question
Not much in there, unless you’re looking for it in my view.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its not about ridicule, but highlighting his style of communication, which I personally dont think will work for players and doesnt seem to be working with most fans.
posted on 14/5/22
Biggest game in years?
I haven’t been here so it’s hard for me to reflect on that. I watched the documentary before I came
------
Bielsa watched every minute of every match including pre season before the interview and even had the blueprints for Thorp Arch.
Jesse's watched an Amazon series on us.
posted on 14/5/22
You can see how he works, it’s all motivational. Players coming out chasing around like headless chickens and putting in overly aggressive tackles.
It’ll only wash for so long before players lose confidence in him and we’re already way past that point, so what now? I can’t see anything in his tactics.
What was the point of sacking Bielsa, to bring in an inferior coach? As good a business as the Dan James deal. Clueless
posted on 14/5/22
Good point, Jonty. Have a look at what Mike Jackson says about Burnley:
'You try and work as hard as you can, you try and do the best that you can, and I think that's all that anyone can ever ask of you.
'That's what we've tried to do here, we ask that of the players and the staff, and if you keep working along those lines of what we're about – the hard work to even compete at this level – that's the main thing.
'The players have really worked hard over the last few weeks, not just physically, it's the mental side of it as well. In the last few weeks, they've been through a lot but that brings them closer together, it brings the whole place together.'
This is clear-minded unfussy positivity. He knows what he's got, he understands the challenge facing the team, and he trusts his players.
The only ray of hope for us is that he did get Manager of the Month for April. Kiss of death for many a manager better than Mike Jackson.
posted on 15/5/22
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 12 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
So Jonty, I think we’ve all established he has a slack jaw and also that you’re not a fan. But it seems we’re dissecting every word now in an attempt to ridicule.
He’s saying
- Brighton definitely won’t be on the beach.
- Brighton mix things up a lot so they’re not easy to prepare for
- as a coaching team they’re self-analytical and reflect on what they see on the pitch and ask themselves what they can do better.
- biggest game…yeh not a coherent answer to a stupid question
Not much in there, unless you’re looking for it in my view.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its not about ridicule, but highlighting his style of communication, which I personally dont think will work for players and doesnt seem to be working with most fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ve no idea what they think of him… and we Brits are a cynical bunch with an acute bullsh*t radar, so I’m not providing this as evidence against just as balance:
Erring haarland: “Jesse and I had a great relationship. We still talk on the phone sometimes. He was an amazing manager for me, and we had some great memories together. He’s an amazing guy.
Fabrizio Romano:
‘from the players’ side, I have very good feedback on Marsch, they love his approach, love his ideas and love his methods’
As an aside the Romano interview that’s taken from is interesting - romano was worried about the JM’s appointment as he said the ‘criticism’ of him is it can take time for him to get his ideas across - and Leeds didn’t have time. The problem he had at Leipzig was turning a possession based side into a high energy, high press team.
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