comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 26 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
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That is the most sensible comment I've read on here for about 5 years.
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you should spend more time away from the city board
Ages ago a poll was done for a president in place of the monarchy. Jimmy Saville won.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 seconds ago
Ages ago a poll was done for a president in place of the monarchy. Jimmy Saville won.
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how's about that then
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 35 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
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Many countries (e.g. Germany) have an elected head of state that has a purely ceremonial role. Strange to see an opinion that, in a system where a party with less than 40% support regularly gets an absolute majority, where the upper chamber consists of unelected Lords, and where electoral reforms to require photo ID are set to disenfranchise more than a million, largely poorer voters, you see too much democracy as a potential problem for the country.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 35 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
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Many countries (e.g. Germany) have an elected head of state that has a purely ceremonial role. Strange to see an opinion that, in a system where a party with less than 40% support regularly gets an absolute majority, where the upper chamber consists of unelected Lords, and where electoral reforms to require photo ID are set to disenfranchise more than a million, largely poorer voters, you see too much democracy as a potential problem for the country.
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Ok I'm not refuting what you've said but why would photo ID disenfranchise a million people?
For developed countries like the UK there should be no excuse not to have a form of photo ID.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 seconds ago
Ages ago a poll was done for a president in place of the monarchy. Jimmy Saville won.
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how's about that then
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Shouldn’t laugh but I did
Boaty McBoatface would win a Presidential election in the UK.And Mr Blobby probably
Met the queen. She was alright.
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 35 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
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Many countries (e.g. Germany) have an elected head of state that has a purely ceremonial role. Strange to see an opinion that, in a system where a party with less than 40% support regularly gets an absolute majority, where the upper chamber consists of unelected Lords, and where electoral reforms to require photo ID are set to disenfranchise more than a million, largely poorer voters, you see too much democracy as a potential problem for the country.
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Ok I'm not refuting what you've said but why would photo ID disenfranchise a million people?
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Getting ID costs time and money, which some people may not be able to invest, and it is well established that ID requirements always penalise societies’ most marginalised most heavily, who are, for example, less likely to possess a driving licence or passport. I think one study showed that in certain areas in Wales as few as 80% of people of voting age carried one of the two documents.
Windrush also demonstrated that it can be very difficult for people in certain minority groups to provide documents proving their identity in order to apply for ID, through absolutely no fault of their own.
The idea that people should carry id at all times in the UK is outrageous. Its not Natsi, show me your papers, Germany, here yet. But Im sure Ugly Patel is working on it.
The vast profits they make on UK Driving Licences and passports should fund a system where everyone who is elligble gets a basic free photo ID.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
The vast profits they make on UK Driving Licences and passports should fund a system where everyone who is elligble gets a basic free photo ID.
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The Tories wouldn’t be excited about such an exercise because a) it’d cost money, b) they actually don’t want everyone to have an ID, and c) there’d be an unwanted furore about the authorities refusing to give out IDs to perfectly entitled people who couldn’t prove their identity.
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Ok I'm not refuting what you've said but why would photo ID disenfranchise a million people?
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Unlike many countries, we don't have mandatory photo ID in this country. As Rosso said, plenty of people don't have passports or driving licences. They are disproportionately represented in demographics that are poorer in cash and time. These same demographics are already less likely to vote due to barriers such as long working hours, less access to transportation, and less access to information.
The idea of requiring photo ID to vote has been studied and researched at length. Many of the estimates of the number marginalised people who are effectively disenfranchised by these moves are actually closer to two million. Meanwhile, election watchdogs repeatedly assess that electoral fraud occurs on a miniscule scale.
Jimmy Saville was a close friend of the monarch and was often invited to their Christmas dinners. He was a child trafficker.
What does that make the monarch?
Celebrating the Royal family is idiotic.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Ok I'm not refuting what you've said but why would photo ID disenfranchise a million people?
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Unlike many countries, we don't have mandatory photo ID in this country. As Rosso said, plenty of people don't have passports or driving licences. They are disproportionately represented in demographics that are poorer in cash and time. These same demographics are already less likely to vote due to barriers such as long working hours, less access to transportation, and less access to information.
The idea of requiring photo ID to vote has been studied and researched at length. Many of the estimates of the number marginalised people who are effectively disenfranchised by these moves are actually closer to two million. Meanwhile, election watchdogs repeatedly assess that electoral fraud occurs on a miniscule scale.
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A provisional driving license is 34 pounds and takes about half an hour to apply for.
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
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The generally thick people of the UK already vote in our Government, as evidenced by the utter shambles Johnson & his sycophants inflict on us daily
comment by LemonKnee (U22854)
posted 41 minutes ago
Jimmy Saville was a close friend of the monarch and was often invited to their Christmas dinners. He was a child trafficker.
What does that make the monarch?
Celebrating the Royal family is idiotic.
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Yes but like the rest of us they didnt know he was a pervert at the time. Unless you are saying they did?
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Ok I'm not refuting what you've said but why would photo ID disenfranchise a million people?
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Unlike many countries, we don't have mandatory photo ID in this country. As Rosso said, plenty of people don't have passports or driving licences. They are disproportionately represented in demographics that are poorer in cash and time. These same demographics are already less likely to vote due to barriers such as long working hours, less access to transportation, and less access to information.
The idea of requiring photo ID to vote has been studied and researched at length. Many of the estimates of the number marginalised people who are effectively disenfranchised by these moves are actually closer to two million. Meanwhile, election watchdogs repeatedly assess that electoral fraud occurs on a miniscule scale.
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A provisional driving license is 34 pounds and takes about half an hour to apply for.
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That’s fine if you have a fixed address, have £34 spare to spend, have your birth certificate, are aware that you need photo ID to vote, and are aware of how to apply.
There’s just no need to require ID to vote though. As RR has pointed out, there’s just no evidence that voting fraud exists in any meaningful way in the UK.
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
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The generally thick people of the UK already vote in our Government, as evidenced by the utter shambles Johnson & his sycophants inflict on us daily
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Yes and it should end there
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by LemonKnee (U22854)
posted 41 minutes ago
Jimmy Saville was a close friend of the monarch and was often invited to their Christmas dinners. He was a child trafficker.
What does that make the monarch?
Celebrating the Royal family is idiotic.
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Yes but like the rest of us they didnt know he was a pervert at the time. Unless you are saying they did?
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Exactly. Another idiot piece of reasoning by lemon. An apt name if ever there was one.
comment by LemonKnee (U22854)
posted 56 minutes ago
Jimmy Saville was a close friend of the monarch and was often invited to their Christmas dinners. He was a child trafficker.
What does that make the monarch?
Celebrating the Royal family is idiotic.
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Is this one of those lateral thinking exercises?
Is the answer a block of ice?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by LemonKnee (U22854)
posted 41 minutes ago
Jimmy Saville was a close friend of the monarch and was often invited to their Christmas dinners. He was a child trafficker.
What does that make the monarch?
Celebrating the Royal family is idiotic.
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Yes but like the rest of us they didnt know he was a pervert at the time. Unless you are saying they did?
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Exactly. Another idiot piece of reasoning by lemon. An apt name if ever there was one.
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Yes, they knew. That's why he was so close to them. There have been many whistle blowers from policeman to journalists exposing the monarchs dealing with child traffickers and paedophiles.
But the general public still wave their flags and sing their songs like the brainless drones they are.
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. Champion of NBA Predictions (U12980)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
If you don’t celebrate the queen (Charles is a khunt and when he becomes king I couldn’t care less) but if you don’t celebrate a legend like the queen and arguably the great person in history then you don’t deserve to be alive or to at least live in the U.K. tbh
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posted on 28/5/22
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 26 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
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That is the most sensible comment I've read on here for about 5 years.
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you should spend more time away from the city board
posted on 28/5/22
Ages ago a poll was done for a president in place of the monarchy. Jimmy Saville won.
posted on 28/5/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 seconds ago
Ages ago a poll was done for a president in place of the monarchy. Jimmy Saville won.
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how's about that then
posted on 28/5/22
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 35 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many countries (e.g. Germany) have an elected head of state that has a purely ceremonial role. Strange to see an opinion that, in a system where a party with less than 40% support regularly gets an absolute majority, where the upper chamber consists of unelected Lords, and where electoral reforms to require photo ID are set to disenfranchise more than a million, largely poorer voters, you see too much democracy as a potential problem for the country.
posted on 28/5/22
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 35 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many countries (e.g. Germany) have an elected head of state that has a purely ceremonial role. Strange to see an opinion that, in a system where a party with less than 40% support regularly gets an absolute majority, where the upper chamber consists of unelected Lords, and where electoral reforms to require photo ID are set to disenfranchise more than a million, largely poorer voters, you see too much democracy as a potential problem for the country.
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Ok I'm not refuting what you've said but why would photo ID disenfranchise a million people?
posted on 28/5/22
For developed countries like the UK there should be no excuse not to have a form of photo ID.
posted on 28/5/22
FTBE
posted on 28/5/22
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 seconds ago
Ages ago a poll was done for a president in place of the monarchy. Jimmy Saville won.
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how's about that then
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Shouldn’t laugh but I did
posted on 28/5/22
Boaty McBoatface would win a Presidential election in the UK.And Mr Blobby probably
posted on 28/5/22
Met the queen. She was alright.
posted on 28/5/22
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 35 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many countries (e.g. Germany) have an elected head of state that has a purely ceremonial role. Strange to see an opinion that, in a system where a party with less than 40% support regularly gets an absolute majority, where the upper chamber consists of unelected Lords, and where electoral reforms to require photo ID are set to disenfranchise more than a million, largely poorer voters, you see too much democracy as a potential problem for the country.
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Ok I'm not refuting what you've said but why would photo ID disenfranchise a million people?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Getting ID costs time and money, which some people may not be able to invest, and it is well established that ID requirements always penalise societies’ most marginalised most heavily, who are, for example, less likely to possess a driving licence or passport. I think one study showed that in certain areas in Wales as few as 80% of people of voting age carried one of the two documents.
Windrush also demonstrated that it can be very difficult for people in certain minority groups to provide documents proving their identity in order to apply for ID, through absolutely no fault of their own.
posted on 28/5/22
The idea that people should carry id at all times in the UK is outrageous. Its not Natsi, show me your papers, Germany, here yet. But Im sure Ugly Patel is working on it.
posted on 28/5/22
The vast profits they make on UK Driving Licences and passports should fund a system where everyone who is elligble gets a basic free photo ID.
posted on 28/5/22
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
The vast profits they make on UK Driving Licences and passports should fund a system where everyone who is elligble gets a basic free photo ID.
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The Tories wouldn’t be excited about such an exercise because a) it’d cost money, b) they actually don’t want everyone to have an ID, and c) there’d be an unwanted furore about the authorities refusing to give out IDs to perfectly entitled people who couldn’t prove their identity.
posted on 28/5/22
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Ok I'm not refuting what you've said but why would photo ID disenfranchise a million people?
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Unlike many countries, we don't have mandatory photo ID in this country. As Rosso said, plenty of people don't have passports or driving licences. They are disproportionately represented in demographics that are poorer in cash and time. These same demographics are already less likely to vote due to barriers such as long working hours, less access to transportation, and less access to information.
The idea of requiring photo ID to vote has been studied and researched at length. Many of the estimates of the number marginalised people who are effectively disenfranchised by these moves are actually closer to two million. Meanwhile, election watchdogs repeatedly assess that electoral fraud occurs on a miniscule scale.
posted on 28/5/22
Jimmy Saville was a close friend of the monarch and was often invited to their Christmas dinners. He was a child trafficker.
What does that make the monarch?
Celebrating the Royal family is idiotic.
posted on 28/5/22
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Ok I'm not refuting what you've said but why would photo ID disenfranchise a million people?
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Unlike many countries, we don't have mandatory photo ID in this country. As Rosso said, plenty of people don't have passports or driving licences. They are disproportionately represented in demographics that are poorer in cash and time. These same demographics are already less likely to vote due to barriers such as long working hours, less access to transportation, and less access to information.
The idea of requiring photo ID to vote has been studied and researched at length. Many of the estimates of the number marginalised people who are effectively disenfranchised by these moves are actually closer to two million. Meanwhile, election watchdogs repeatedly assess that electoral fraud occurs on a miniscule scale.
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A provisional driving license is 34 pounds and takes about half an hour to apply for.
posted on 28/5/22
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
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The generally thick people of the UK already vote in our Government, as evidenced by the utter shambles Johnson & his sycophants inflict on us daily
posted on 28/5/22
comment by LemonKnee (U22854)
posted 41 minutes ago
Jimmy Saville was a close friend of the monarch and was often invited to their Christmas dinners. He was a child trafficker.
What does that make the monarch?
Celebrating the Royal family is idiotic.
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Yes but like the rest of us they didnt know he was a pervert at the time. Unless you are saying they did?
posted on 28/5/22
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Ok I'm not refuting what you've said but why would photo ID disenfranchise a million people?
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Unlike many countries, we don't have mandatory photo ID in this country. As Rosso said, plenty of people don't have passports or driving licences. They are disproportionately represented in demographics that are poorer in cash and time. These same demographics are already less likely to vote due to barriers such as long working hours, less access to transportation, and less access to information.
The idea of requiring photo ID to vote has been studied and researched at length. Many of the estimates of the number marginalised people who are effectively disenfranchised by these moves are actually closer to two million. Meanwhile, election watchdogs repeatedly assess that electoral fraud occurs on a miniscule scale.
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A provisional driving license is 34 pounds and takes about half an hour to apply for.
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That’s fine if you have a fixed address, have £34 spare to spend, have your birth certificate, are aware that you need photo ID to vote, and are aware of how to apply.
There’s just no need to require ID to vote though. As RR has pointed out, there’s just no evidence that voting fraud exists in any meaningful way in the UK.
posted on 28/5/22
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
I know I shouldnt but I appreciate our Constitutional Monarchy over the alternative, which would be a disaster for all in this country. As would ending the Union. Imagine letting the generally thick people of the UK loose on voting for our head of state given half the chance. And handing everything to the Executive in the HofC. Youre having a laugh.
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The generally thick people of the UK already vote in our Government, as evidenced by the utter shambles Johnson & his sycophants inflict on us daily
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Yes and it should end there
posted on 28/5/22
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by LemonKnee (U22854)
posted 41 minutes ago
Jimmy Saville was a close friend of the monarch and was often invited to their Christmas dinners. He was a child trafficker.
What does that make the monarch?
Celebrating the Royal family is idiotic.
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Yes but like the rest of us they didnt know he was a pervert at the time. Unless you are saying they did?
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Exactly. Another idiot piece of reasoning by lemon. An apt name if ever there was one.
posted on 28/5/22
comment by LemonKnee (U22854)
posted 56 minutes ago
Jimmy Saville was a close friend of the monarch and was often invited to their Christmas dinners. He was a child trafficker.
What does that make the monarch?
Celebrating the Royal family is idiotic.
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Is this one of those lateral thinking exercises?
Is the answer a block of ice?
posted on 28/5/22
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by LemonKnee (U22854)
posted 41 minutes ago
Jimmy Saville was a close friend of the monarch and was often invited to their Christmas dinners. He was a child trafficker.
What does that make the monarch?
Celebrating the Royal family is idiotic.
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Yes but like the rest of us they didnt know he was a pervert at the time. Unless you are saying they did?
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Exactly. Another idiot piece of reasoning by lemon. An apt name if ever there was one.
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Yes, they knew. That's why he was so close to them. There have been many whistle blowers from policeman to journalists exposing the monarchs dealing with child traffickers and paedophiles.
But the general public still wave their flags and sing their songs like the brainless drones they are.
posted on 28/5/22
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. Champion of NBA Predictions (U12980)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
If you don’t celebrate the queen (Charles is a khunt and when he becomes king I couldn’t care less) but if you don’t celebrate a legend like the queen and arguably the great person in history then you don’t deserve to be alive or to at least live in the U.K. tbh
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