comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 25 seconds ago
We’re just missing Poolmytrigger for the hattrick.
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Shabbaπ
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
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It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
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''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
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It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
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''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
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Are they on life support machines and legally braindead? Or are you talking nonsense?
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
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''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
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Another false equivalence from the numpty who doesn't know what a fact is.
Are they on life support machines and legally braindead?
———
Obviously, howe else is Tux meant to feel like the smartest man in the room?
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
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As an Ulster Christian in the land of protestant and Catholic fundamentalism, who exported our faith and culture to America, I believe abortion should be a right for women, as it's their life and body....but late and repeat abortion concerns me fwiw
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
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As an Ulster Christian in the land of protestant and Catholic fundamentalism, who exported our faith and culture to America, I believe abortion should be a right for women, as it's their life and body....but late and repeat abortion concerns me fwiw
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What do you define as late?
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Many were forced to have the vax if it meant keeping their job. Stop lying.
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The weren't forced. They chose to. Should literally don't know what facts, opinions, or lies are. What a troglodyte.
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Here we go, more insults from the 'Tolerant Left'......zzzzzz.
Tell that to those who had to for the sake of their livelihoods around the globe. Are you honestly this blinkered? Genuine question.
Kung Fu
Am still reminding folk of the suffering Muslims experience in Royhinja and China and from natzis in the westπ
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
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What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Many were forced to have the vax if it meant keeping their job. Stop lying.
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The weren't forced. They chose to. Should literally don't know what facts, opinions, or lies are. What a troglodyte.
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Here we go, more insults from the 'Tolerant Left'......zzzzzz.
Tell that to those who had to for the sake of their livelihoods around the globe. Are you honestly this blinkered? Genuine question.
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Your intolerance of women's rights does not deserve to be tolerated. People didn't have to get the vaccine. That is a basic fact.
You really aren't helping yourself with your inability to put together a reasoned position without resorting to false equovalences and misrepresentations.
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
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The ruling has nothing to with Christianity, this is about the US Constitution and US democracy.
Of course people don't like democracy in action when it goes against their own views.
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Many were forced to have the vax if it meant keeping their job. Stop lying.
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The weren't forced. They chose to. Should literally don't know what facts, opinions, or lies are. What a troglodyte.
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Here we go, more insults from the 'Tolerant Left'......zzzzzz.
Tell that to those who had to for the sake of their livelihoods around the globe. Are you honestly this blinkered? Genuine question.
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I was about to say, abortion is a complex and emotional topic and posters should try to be nice...in my niave little headπ
And as I have not said it for years...where are all the girls and women on this forum?
Do we scare or put them off or do they know better π€
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
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What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
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"The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body."
Are you actually reading what you write? That is literally the opposite of what has happened. Prior to this, the government couldn't tell people they couldn't get an abortion, and they couldn't tell someone they had to.
Now, state governments can literally tell women they cannot get an abortion. Literally the opposite of what you said happened.
The right to privacy isn't an exhaustive list. Abortion is a medical procedure, and medical procedures are consistently considered private matters.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
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The ruling has nothing to with Christianity, this is about the US Constitution and US democracy.
Of course people don't like democracy in action when it goes against their own views.
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Fair comment....incoming, mateπ
I support certain abortion btw.
Not a fan of late or repeat, tbh.
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
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''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
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Are they on life support machines and legally braindead? Or are you talking nonsense?
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If they were on life-support machines then the doctors would be looking after them, not me.
You'll never do clever no matter how hard you try.
Stick to killing babies bud.
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
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It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
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''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
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Are they on life support machines and legally braindead? Or are you talking nonsense?
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If they were on life-support machines then the doctors would be looking after them, not me.
You'll never do clever no matter how hard you try.
Stick to killing babies bud.
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And doctors would be well within their right to withdraw treatment.
Most people on this thread have showb themselves to be cleverer than you. Now you don't even know the difference between a baby and a foetus.
I think you should stay out of adult discussions until you have learned basic facts.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
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What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
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"The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body."
Are you actually reading what you write? That is literally the opposite of what has happened. Prior to this, the government couldn't tell people they couldn't get an abortion, and they couldn't tell someone they had to.
Now, state governments can literally tell women they cannot get an abortion. Literally the opposite of what you said happened.
The right to privacy isn't an exhaustive list. Abortion is a medical procedure, and medical procedures are consistently considered private matters.
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Going Leftfield mate
Your partner has an abortion without your consent.
How do you feel?
I am a dad, wife is Catholic not into abortion, but if she had an abortion without having a word, I might have a word.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
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What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body."
Are you actually reading what you write? That is literally the opposite of what has happened. Prior to this, the government couldn't tell people they couldn't get an abortion, and they couldn't tell someone they had to.
Now, state governments can literally tell women they cannot get an abortion. Literally the opposite of what you said happened.
The right to privacy isn't an exhaustive list. Abortion is a medical procedure, and medical procedures are consistently considered private matters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And again you fail to actually understand the topic
The US government has said under the constitution the US government cannot tell people what they can and cannot do with their bodies.
They have no power under the constitution to stop STATES doing what they want.
All this drivel about the US this and the US that. If Kentucky outlaws abortion that’s on Kentucky not the US.
You people really don’t have the first idea about US politics do you.
The funniest part about this, is that the US government has ruled that abortion is a not a right protected above law.
Which is exactly the same in the UK.
There is no right to abortion in the UK. There is a law with a lot of criteria that needs to be met.
In 37 states it will be easier to get an abortion than it is in the UK.
So rather than posting naive ignorant nonsense about the US as a whole, go away learn about the actual ruling, figure out it’s not a US wide issue, figure out which states to name and shame and then figure out why you suddenly care about abortion being in the hands of politicians in a foreign country when you don’t seem to care it’s in the hands of politicians in the UK!
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
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What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body."
Are you actually reading what you write? That is literally the opposite of what has happened. Prior to this, the government couldn't tell people they couldn't get an abortion, and they couldn't tell someone they had to.
Now, state governments can literally tell women they cannot get an abortion. Literally the opposite of what you said happened.
The right to privacy isn't an exhaustive list. Abortion is a medical procedure, and medical procedures are consistently considered private matters.
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Going Leftfield mate
Your partner has an abortion without your consent.
How do you feel?
I am a dad, wife is Catholic not into abortion, but if she had an abortion without having a word, I might have a word.
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My consent? I don't own my partner. She doesn't need my consent to do things because she is a human being with the right to decide what happens to her body, and not a price of property that I control.
Going leftfield - your partner tells you she wants an abortion. Are you going to force her to go through a physically damaging and unwanted procedure against her will?
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posted 17 seconds ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 4 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
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''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
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Are they on life support machines and legally braindead? Or are you talking nonsense?
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If they were on life-support machines then the doctors would be looking after them, not me.
You'll never do clever no matter how hard you try.
Stick to killing babies bud.
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And doctors would be well within their right to withdraw treatment.
Most people on this thread have showb themselves to be cleverer than you. Now you don't even know the difference between a baby and a foetus.
I think you should stay out of adult discussions until you have learned basic facts.
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When does a foetus become a baby?
My daughter was born in Mater hospital Belfast, a Catholic hosp where abortion is a no no.
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body."
Are you actually reading what you write? That is literally the opposite of what has happened. Prior to this, the government couldn't tell people they couldn't get an abortion, and they couldn't tell someone they had to.
Now, state governments can literally tell women they cannot get an abortion. Literally the opposite of what you said happened.
The right to privacy isn't an exhaustive list. Abortion is a medical procedure, and medical procedures are consistently considered private matters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And again you fail to actually understand the topic
The US government has said under the constitution the US government cannot tell people what they can and cannot do with their bodies.
They have no power under the constitution to stop STATES doing what they want.
All this drivel about the US this and the US that. If Kentucky outlaws abortion that’s on Kentucky not the US.
You people really don’t have the first idea about US politics do you.
The funniest part about this, is that the US government has ruled that abortion is a not a right protected above law.
Which is exactly the same in the UK.
There is no right to abortion in the UK. There is a law with a lot of criteria that needs to be met.
In 37 states it will be easier to get an abortion than it is in the UK.
So rather than posting naive ignorant nonsense about the US as a whole, go away learn about the actual ruling, figure out it’s not a US wide issue, figure out which states to name and shame and then figure out why you suddenly care about abortion being in the hands of politicians in a foreign country when you don’t seem to care it’s in the hands of politicians in the UK!
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"The funniest part about this, is that the US government has ruled that abortion is a not a right protected above law."
When did this happen?
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
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The ruling has nothing to with Christianity, this is about the US Constitution and US democracy.
Of course people don't like democracy in action when it goes against their own views.
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Fair comment....incoming, mateπ
I support certain abortion btw.
Not a fan of late or repeat, tbh.
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As am I.
There is shock amongst some on here because people think eliminating potential life frivolously is morally abhorrent.
People no longer find the growth of potential life sacred.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 24 seconds ago
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posted 17 seconds ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 4 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
----------------------------------------------------------------------
''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
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''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
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Are they on life support machines and legally braindead? Or are you talking nonsense?
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If they were on life-support machines then the doctors would be looking after them, not me.
You'll never do clever no matter how hard you try.
Stick to killing babies bud.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And doctors would be well within their right to withdraw treatment.
Most people on this thread have showb themselves to be cleverer than you. Now you don't even know the difference between a baby and a foetus.
I think you should stay out of adult discussions until you have learned basic facts.
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When does a foetus become a baby?
My daughter was born in Mater hospital Belfast, a Catholic hosp where abortion is a no no.
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When it is born.
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posted on 25/6/22
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
posted on 25/6/22
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 25 seconds ago
We’re just missing Poolmytrigger for the hattrick.
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Shabbaπ
posted on 25/6/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
----------------------------------------------------------------------
''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
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''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
posted on 25/6/22
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
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It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
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''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
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Are they on life support machines and legally braindead? Or are you talking nonsense?
posted on 25/6/22
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
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It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
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Another false equivalence from the numpty who doesn't know what a fact is.
posted on 25/6/22
Are they on life support machines and legally braindead?
———
Obviously, howe else is Tux meant to feel like the smartest man in the room?
posted on 25/6/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
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As an Ulster Christian in the land of protestant and Catholic fundamentalism, who exported our faith and culture to America, I believe abortion should be a right for women, as it's their life and body....but late and repeat abortion concerns me fwiw
posted on 25/6/22
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
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As an Ulster Christian in the land of protestant and Catholic fundamentalism, who exported our faith and culture to America, I believe abortion should be a right for women, as it's their life and body....but late and repeat abortion concerns me fwiw
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What do you define as late?
posted on 25/6/22
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Many were forced to have the vax if it meant keeping their job. Stop lying.
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The weren't forced. They chose to. Should literally don't know what facts, opinions, or lies are. What a troglodyte.
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Here we go, more insults from the 'Tolerant Left'......zzzzzz.
Tell that to those who had to for the sake of their livelihoods around the globe. Are you honestly this blinkered? Genuine question.
posted on 25/6/22
Kung Fu
Am still reminding folk of the suffering Muslims experience in Royhinja and China and from natzis in the westπ
posted on 25/6/22
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
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What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
posted on 25/6/22
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Many were forced to have the vax if it meant keeping their job. Stop lying.
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The weren't forced. They chose to. Should literally don't know what facts, opinions, or lies are. What a troglodyte.
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Here we go, more insults from the 'Tolerant Left'......zzzzzz.
Tell that to those who had to for the sake of their livelihoods around the globe. Are you honestly this blinkered? Genuine question.
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Your intolerance of women's rights does not deserve to be tolerated. People didn't have to get the vaccine. That is a basic fact.
You really aren't helping yourself with your inability to put together a reasoned position without resorting to false equovalences and misrepresentations.
posted on 25/6/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
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The ruling has nothing to with Christianity, this is about the US Constitution and US democracy.
Of course people don't like democracy in action when it goes against their own views.
posted on 25/6/22
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Many were forced to have the vax if it meant keeping their job. Stop lying.
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The weren't forced. They chose to. Should literally don't know what facts, opinions, or lies are. What a troglodyte.
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Here we go, more insults from the 'Tolerant Left'......zzzzzz.
Tell that to those who had to for the sake of their livelihoods around the globe. Are you honestly this blinkered? Genuine question.
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I was about to say, abortion is a complex and emotional topic and posters should try to be nice...in my niave little headπ
And as I have not said it for years...where are all the girls and women on this forum?
Do we scare or put them off or do they know better π€
posted on 25/6/22
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
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What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
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"The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body."
Are you actually reading what you write? That is literally the opposite of what has happened. Prior to this, the government couldn't tell people they couldn't get an abortion, and they couldn't tell someone they had to.
Now, state governments can literally tell women they cannot get an abortion. Literally the opposite of what you said happened.
The right to privacy isn't an exhaustive list. Abortion is a medical procedure, and medical procedures are consistently considered private matters.
posted on 25/6/22
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
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The ruling has nothing to with Christianity, this is about the US Constitution and US democracy.
Of course people don't like democracy in action when it goes against their own views.
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Fair comment....incoming, mateπ
I support certain abortion btw.
Not a fan of late or repeat, tbh.
posted on 25/6/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are they on life support machines and legally braindead? Or are you talking nonsense?
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If they were on life-support machines then the doctors would be looking after them, not me.
You'll never do clever no matter how hard you try.
Stick to killing babies bud.
posted on 25/6/22
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
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Are they on life support machines and legally braindead? Or are you talking nonsense?
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If they were on life-support machines then the doctors would be looking after them, not me.
You'll never do clever no matter how hard you try.
Stick to killing babies bud.
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And doctors would be well within their right to withdraw treatment.
Most people on this thread have showb themselves to be cleverer than you. Now you don't even know the difference between a baby and a foetus.
I think you should stay out of adult discussions until you have learned basic facts.
posted on 25/6/22
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
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What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
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"The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body."
Are you actually reading what you write? That is literally the opposite of what has happened. Prior to this, the government couldn't tell people they couldn't get an abortion, and they couldn't tell someone they had to.
Now, state governments can literally tell women they cannot get an abortion. Literally the opposite of what you said happened.
The right to privacy isn't an exhaustive list. Abortion is a medical procedure, and medical procedures are consistently considered private matters.
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Going Leftfield mate
Your partner has an abortion without your consent.
How do you feel?
I am a dad, wife is Catholic not into abortion, but if she had an abortion without having a word, I might have a word.
posted on 25/6/22
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
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Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
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What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
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"The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body."
Are you actually reading what you write? That is literally the opposite of what has happened. Prior to this, the government couldn't tell people they couldn't get an abortion, and they couldn't tell someone they had to.
Now, state governments can literally tell women they cannot get an abortion. Literally the opposite of what you said happened.
The right to privacy isn't an exhaustive list. Abortion is a medical procedure, and medical procedures are consistently considered private matters.
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And again you fail to actually understand the topic
The US government has said under the constitution the US government cannot tell people what they can and cannot do with their bodies.
They have no power under the constitution to stop STATES doing what they want.
All this drivel about the US this and the US that. If Kentucky outlaws abortion that’s on Kentucky not the US.
You people really don’t have the first idea about US politics do you.
The funniest part about this, is that the US government has ruled that abortion is a not a right protected above law.
Which is exactly the same in the UK.
There is no right to abortion in the UK. There is a law with a lot of criteria that needs to be met.
In 37 states it will be easier to get an abortion than it is in the UK.
So rather than posting naive ignorant nonsense about the US as a whole, go away learn about the actual ruling, figure out it’s not a US wide issue, figure out which states to name and shame and then figure out why you suddenly care about abortion being in the hands of politicians in a foreign country when you don’t seem to care it’s in the hands of politicians in the UK!
posted on 25/6/22
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
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What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
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Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
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What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
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"The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body."
Are you actually reading what you write? That is literally the opposite of what has happened. Prior to this, the government couldn't tell people they couldn't get an abortion, and they couldn't tell someone they had to.
Now, state governments can literally tell women they cannot get an abortion. Literally the opposite of what you said happened.
The right to privacy isn't an exhaustive list. Abortion is a medical procedure, and medical procedures are consistently considered private matters.
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Going Leftfield mate
Your partner has an abortion without your consent.
How do you feel?
I am a dad, wife is Catholic not into abortion, but if she had an abortion without having a word, I might have a word.
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My consent? I don't own my partner. She doesn't need my consent to do things because she is a human being with the right to decide what happens to her body, and not a price of property that I control.
Going leftfield - your partner tells you she wants an abortion. Are you going to force her to go through a physically damaging and unwanted procedure against her will?
posted on 25/6/22
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
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It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
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''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
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Are they on life support machines and legally braindead? Or are you talking nonsense?
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If they were on life-support machines then the doctors would be looking after them, not me.
You'll never do clever no matter how hard you try.
Stick to killing babies bud.
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And doctors would be well within their right to withdraw treatment.
Most people on this thread have showb themselves to be cleverer than you. Now you don't even know the difference between a baby and a foetus.
I think you should stay out of adult discussions until you have learned basic facts.
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When does a foetus become a baby?
My daughter was born in Mater hospital Belfast, a Catholic hosp where abortion is a no no.
posted on 25/6/22
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 47 minutes ago
It’s sad when a country gives more rights to guns than a woman to have autonomy over their body.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What an absolutely “reeetarded” comment.
Guns have zero rights. People have the right to have guns.
Bodily autonomy, ah that old chestnut, so you’re fine with being told you must get a vaccination to travel and show proof, that isn’t a violation of a woman’s bodily autonomy too?
Sure an abortion and a vaccine are two different things but being told what to do with your body as a concept seems to be fine when it suits an agenda you have
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope, because nobody was forced to have a vaccine. There are many people who have still not had one. Your argument is a false equivalence and makes as little sense as the rest of your comments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Funny thing is he seems to think it’s some gotcha as well.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a numpty you really are
The Biden administration and the CDC tried to enforce mandatory vaccinations for travel.
The Supreme Court ruled the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body.
Seems some of your really don’t understand politics of the US. “America” hasn’t outlawed abortion, The “US” hasn’t denied anyone anything.
They’ve said they don’t have the power under their constitution to enforce rules about it.
It’s up to the democratically elected officials in each state to enact whatever laws the people have empowered them to.
Roe v Wade was based on one heck of a reach of the 14th amendment. “The right to privacy” doesn’t state anywhere about abortion.
It was a flawed ruling and was legally correctly overturned.
This isn’t about whether you like it or not. The constitution does not, nor has it ever, protected the right to abortion. I know it’s hard to understand for some who only read certain news outlets and get caught up in the hyperbole but it’s a fact.
You can be pro choice and agree that the SCOTUS decision was legally, if not morally, correct
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Supreme Court overturns Row v Wade, by saying the government cannot tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body."
Are you actually reading what you write? That is literally the opposite of what has happened. Prior to this, the government couldn't tell people they couldn't get an abortion, and they couldn't tell someone they had to.
Now, state governments can literally tell women they cannot get an abortion. Literally the opposite of what you said happened.
The right to privacy isn't an exhaustive list. Abortion is a medical procedure, and medical procedures are consistently considered private matters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And again you fail to actually understand the topic
The US government has said under the constitution the US government cannot tell people what they can and cannot do with their bodies.
They have no power under the constitution to stop STATES doing what they want.
All this drivel about the US this and the US that. If Kentucky outlaws abortion that’s on Kentucky not the US.
You people really don’t have the first idea about US politics do you.
The funniest part about this, is that the US government has ruled that abortion is a not a right protected above law.
Which is exactly the same in the UK.
There is no right to abortion in the UK. There is a law with a lot of criteria that needs to be met.
In 37 states it will be easier to get an abortion than it is in the UK.
So rather than posting naive ignorant nonsense about the US as a whole, go away learn about the actual ruling, figure out it’s not a US wide issue, figure out which states to name and shame and then figure out why you suddenly care about abortion being in the hands of politicians in a foreign country when you don’t seem to care it’s in the hands of politicians in the UK!
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"The funniest part about this, is that the US government has ruled that abortion is a not a right protected above law."
When did this happen?
posted on 25/6/22
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
Howareya Kung Fu lad?
...................
I just stuck up for Christians, you own me one.
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No, you didn’t.
A majority of US Christians believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases, as do a majority of US Muslims.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
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The ruling has nothing to with Christianity, this is about the US Constitution and US democracy.
Of course people don't like democracy in action when it goes against their own views.
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Fair comment....incoming, mateπ
I support certain abortion btw.
Not a fan of late or repeat, tbh.
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As am I.
There is shock amongst some on here because people think eliminating potential life frivolously is morally abhorrent.
People no longer find the growth of potential life sacred.
posted on 25/6/22
comment by TBABlue and Yellow. (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 17 minutes ago
You are saying that the decision to remove the civil rights if an entire demographic is the most democracy favouring decision ever.
Of course it’s facking reeetarded.
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No it’s not. You just perceive it that way because you don’t like it, while also clearly not actually knowing a thing about the US political institution.
The Supreme courts sole job is review, uphold or overturn laws enacted by states if they do or don’t comply with the national constitution.
It’s not about whether you like or dislike the law, it’s a binary fact.
If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution and the US federal government has no right to tell anyone what to do with their own bodies in regards to abortion.
States are free to make their own laws because the right is not guaranteed in the constitution.
You don’t have to like the fact but it is a fact.
So now people have to vote in officials at a state level that agree with their views.
A pro lifer would tell you it wasn’t democratic that they had no say in the matter. A pro choice person will tel you they just lost a right.
Both now have a chance to make their voices heard at a state level to ensure they get the outcome they want. Just like every other laws that states have that are not constitutionally protected.
Throwing big fits and threatening to harass, intimidate and attack SCOTUS judges by the way is the most hypocritical thing the left has done in some time.
When the right wing nut jobs didn’t like the election, and protested and tried to overrule that judgement it was an insurrection against democracy and a US institution.
Now the left is threatening to do the same thing just because they too, don’t like the outcome of a certain institutions ruling.
Can’t have it both ways
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''If you actually read their ruling yesterday it’s a statement of fact that Roe vs Wade was a bad judgement. It is not supported by the constitution''
100% this.
Sadly the Left-Leaning media have led the blinkered populous down another dead-end...........and so has the geriatric POTUS.
Go figure.
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It appears that both TUX and Dwight are both unfamiliar with what a fact is and how it differs from an opinion. It is not a fact that Roe vs Wade was bad judgment. It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies.
I'm not sure I trust people who don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion to have a reasonable position on this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
''It is an opinion, and one taken up purely by people who want to control what women do with their bodies''.
Women, as with men, can do whatever they choose to do with their respective bodies but it's the rights of the 'other' bodies that you and yours continually choose to ignore.
So when exactly is a body not a body in your view? When it's really really tiny and can't speak for itself?
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When it isn’t sentient or capable of sustaining itself.
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This equally applies to many old people. I know because i look after the oldies in our family. Should i send them around to yours for a quick 'bosh' over the head with a hammer when they aren't looking?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are they on life support machines and legally braindead? Or are you talking nonsense?
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If they were on life-support machines then the doctors would be looking after them, not me.
You'll never do clever no matter how hard you try.
Stick to killing babies bud.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And doctors would be well within their right to withdraw treatment.
Most people on this thread have showb themselves to be cleverer than you. Now you don't even know the difference between a baby and a foetus.
I think you should stay out of adult discussions until you have learned basic facts.
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When does a foetus become a baby?
My daughter was born in Mater hospital Belfast, a Catholic hosp where abortion is a no no.
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When it is born.
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