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comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 28/6/22

comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
but weve already signed 3 players before the tour
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Yes but by all accounts Conte wanted 6 new players this window and you would have thought he would have wanted at least 4 or 5 of them on the plane.
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probably get one more in i reckon out the blue

posted on 28/6/22

I've seen people moaning that Richarlison is too expensive, this is what 20 years of ENIC's frugality has done to them, worrying about what players cost.

If Conte wants the player, then pay the asking price or close to it, that's what big clubs with serious ambition do.

posted on 28/6/22

comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've seen people moaning that Richarlison is too expensive, this is what 20 years of ENIC's frugality has done to them, worrying about what players cost.

If Conte wants the player, then pay the asking price or close to it, that's what big clubs with serious ambition do.
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We did that with Ndombele and GLC mate...

posted on 28/6/22

Richarlison would be a great signing. Premier league proven and can play anywhere across the front three.

Feels like Jota for Liverpool. Would expect him to be a big player as we can't play Kane, Son and Kulu twice a week every week.

posted on 28/6/22

comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've seen people moaning that Richarlison is too expensive, this is what 20 years of ENIC's frugality has done to them, worrying about what players cost.

If Conte wants the player, then pay the asking price or close to it, that's what big clubs with serious ambition do.
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I think it's because fans aren't stupid and they can see that an alternative is available and willing to join in Raphina. He's so much better than Richarlison, it's an absolute joke.

We talk about Conte being backed with the £150m but from what I see, bearing in mind the desperation to get most players in prior to pre-season, we've had a very typical ENIC window. Two frees and one midfielder in the last year of his deal for 25m.

Meanwhile, Arsenal have spent 35m on Vieira, a further 45m on Jesus and are rumoured to be close to getting Raphina themselves for 65m. That's £145m already. Laughing at them right now is foolhardy. They mean business.

And we've gone from Bastoni to Gvardiol to Lenglet, who rumour has it is just awful. Feck me what a fall in choice. All because, you guessed it, we're too tight with our money. Then there's Spence. We're haggling with Steve Gibson over the fee. Sorry, but I don't want Levy anywhere near negotiations anymore. He always risks losing out on a deal to gain a million here and there which then allows others to join the table. He should be signing the cheques and nothing more.

Yes, I know it's only June so don't throw the age old argument that it's still early back at me. I'm basing my opinion entirely on the history ofd the club. The way we've always done it and I'm not seeing anything different. As it stands, Arsenal, without CL football are showing more ambition than we are. Simple as that.

posted on 28/6/22

comment by King of the Gil (U7905)
posted 3 minutes ago
Richarlison would be a great signing. Premier league proven and can play anywhere across the front three.

Feels like Jota for Liverpool. Would expect him to be a big player as we can't play Kane, Son and Kulu twice a week every week.
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Correct me if i am wrong.....but Spurs have done more deals than anyone else so far

posted on 28/6/22

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've seen people moaning that Richarlison is too expensive, this is what 20 years of ENIC's frugality has done to them, worrying about what players cost.

If Conte wants the player, then pay the asking price or close to it, that's what big clubs with serious ambition do.
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I think it's because fans aren't stupid and they can see that an alternative is available and willing to join in Raphina. He's so much better than Richarlison, it's an absolute joke.

We talk about Conte being backed with the £150m but from what I see, bearing in mind the desperation to get most players in prior to pre-season, we've had a very typical ENIC window. Two frees and one midfielder in the last year of his deal for 25m.

Meanwhile, Arsenal have spent 35m on Vieira, a further 45m on Jesus and are rumoured to be close to getting Raphina themselves for 65m. That's £145m already. Laughing at them right now is foolhardy. They mean business.

And we've gone from Bastoni to Gvardiol to Lenglet, who rumour has it is just awful. Feck me what a fall in choice. All because, you guessed it, we're too tight with our money. Then there's Spence. We're haggling with Steve Gibson over the fee. Sorry, but I don't want Levy anywhere near negotiations anymore. He always risks losing out on a deal to gain a million here and there which then allows others to join the table. He should be signing the cheques and nothing more.

Yes, I know it's only June so don't throw the age old argument that it's still early back at me. I'm basing my opinion entirely on the history ofd the club. The way we've always done it and I'm not seeing anything different. As it stands, Arsenal, without CL football are showing more ambition than we are. Simple as that.
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LOL talk about doom and gloom merchant.

posted on 28/6/22

And we've gone from Bastoni to Gvardiol to Lenglet, who rumour has it is just awful. Feck me what a fall in choice. All because, you guessed it, we're too tight with our money.
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Well that's just not true. The clubs are refusing to sell and the players don't want to leave. You need to chill man.

posted on 28/6/22

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've seen people moaning that Richarlison is too expensive, this is what 20 years of ENIC's frugality has done to them, worrying about what players cost.

If Conte wants the player, then pay the asking price or close to it, that's what big clubs with serious ambition do.
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I think it's because fans aren't stupid and they can see that an alternative is available and willing to join in Raphina. He's so much better than Richarlison, it's an absolute joke.

We talk about Conte being backed with the £150m but from what I see, bearing in mind the desperation to get most players in prior to pre-season, we've had a very typical ENIC window. Two frees and one midfielder in the last year of his deal for 25m.

Meanwhile, Arsenal have spent 35m on Vieira, a further 45m on Jesus and are rumoured to be close to getting Raphina themselves for 65m. That's £145m already. Laughing at them right now is foolhardy. They mean business.

And we've gone from Bastoni to Gvardiol to Lenglet, who rumour has it is just awful. Feck me what a fall in choice. All because, you guessed it, we're too tight with our money. Then there's Spence. We're haggling with Steve Gibson over the fee. Sorry, but I don't want Levy anywhere near negotiations anymore. He always risks losing out on a deal to gain a million here and there which then allows others to join the table. He should be signing the cheques and nothing more.

Yes, I know it's only June so don't throw the age old argument that it's still early back at me. I'm basing my opinion entirely on the history ofd the club. The way we've always done it and I'm not seeing anything different. As it stands, Arsenal, without CL football are showing more ambition than we are. Simple as that.
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LOL talk about doom and gloom merchant.
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Coming from the man that regularly posted angry threads up here after every single Spurs loss? Yeah, not sure you're in the best position to judge Sandy. How's that glass house, bud?

You might think it's doom and gloom but am I actually wrong? It might be a pessimistic lean but it's mostly right.

posted on 28/6/22

the usual suspects getting their knickers in a twist despite Spurs' most productive June in the transfer window ever

And really....to talk down the purchase of Bissouma and talk up the purchase of Vieira, you're a fecking joke Sandy. Im mean who had ever hear of this Vieira guy any way and just because he's £35m, that means he's a good signing, better than Bissouma? Bissouma is an awesome purchase and worth £50m plus in normal circumstances.

Raphina is a winger and I think we are looking for a more all round attacker...Even if Arsenal got Raphina as well, I know which attacking 4 i'd rather have

posted on 28/6/22

comment by Bãles left boot - Bissouma grabbed my butt (U22081)
posted 13 minutes ago
And we've gone from Bastoni to Gvardiol to Lenglet, who rumour has it is just awful. Feck me what a fall in choice. All because, you guessed it, we're too tight with our money.
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Well that's just not true. The clubs are refusing to sell and the players don't want to leave. You need to chill man.
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Mark my words, these players are gettable, you just have to put up the numbers the selling clubs can't afford to turn down. This is why we'll always be a second tier club (occasionally qualifying for the CL but not really winning anything) as we always go for the least expensive option. What happened to Bremer? Hincapie? These are also good players that can be bought even if the likes of Bastoni steadfastly refuse to leave. To not be able to any and end up with a loan signing of someone very, very error-prone seems an odd move to me. Why not just stick with Sanchez and Rodon if you're going to show that lack of ambition.

posted on 28/6/22

Richarilson and lenglet, from the initial targets, would be a big disappointment but still help pad the squad out. This talk of 6 in and 6 out etc doesn't help much really.

Cl game's alone spurs need more players. Once u have 15-18 strong ones then u can cherry pick 1 in 1 out.

Cb worries me if it's lenglet. Deems like a budget signing where spurs would massively benefit from spending a good chunk of change on that area alone. Just don't see how richarlison is worth that much if the budget for what he offers.

Be funny to see clearly ref's and how they deal with his bs though 😂

posted on 28/6/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 29 seconds ago
the usual suspects getting their knickers in a twist despite Spurs' most productive June in the transfer window ever

And really....to talk down the purchase of Bissouma and talk up the purchase of Vieira, you're a fecking joke Sandy. Im mean who had ever hear of this Vieira guy any way and just because he's £35m, that means he's a good signing, better than Bissouma? Bissouma is an awesome purchase and worth £50m plus in normal circumstances.

Raphina is a winger and I think we are looking for a more all round attacker...Even if Arsenal got Raphina as well, I know which attacking 4 i'd rather have

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I think you might be referring to my post rather than Sandy. He's said a lot of ridiculous things but this one's on me I think.

posted on 28/6/22

Well you're not mostly right. We didn't miss out on Gvardiol and Bastoni over transfer fees. We are acting differently to how we've done in the past - 3 signings complete (and one well into his thirties) right at the start of the window.

You're just mad we didn't get every shiny thing.

posted on 28/6/22

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 46 seconds ago
Richarilson and lenglet, from the initial targets, would be a big disappointment but still help pad the squad out. This talk of 6 in and 6 out etc doesn't help much really.

Cl game's alone spurs need more players. Once u have 15-18 strong ones then u can cherry pick 1 in 1 out.

Cb worries me if it's lenglet. Deems like a budget signing where spurs would massively benefit from spending a good chunk of change on that area alone. Just don't see how richarlison is worth that much if the budget for what he offers.

Be funny to see clearly ref's and how they deal with his bs though 😂
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I think that's largely the problem. Does Lenglet get in that team. Probably not. Does Richarlison break up that front three. Probably not. We're fleshing out the squad but aside from Peresic, thus far I'm not seeing a first 11 improvement.

posted on 28/6/22

Bissouma is probably our best midfielder.

posted on 28/6/22

comment by Bãles left boot - Bissouma grabbed my butt (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well you're not mostly right. We didn't miss out on Gvardiol and Bastoni over transfer fees. We are acting differently to how we've done in the past - 3 signings complete (and one well into his thirties) right at the start of the window.

You're just mad we didn't get every shiny thing.
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Well lets wait until the window closes before fully judging I admit, however I'm yet to be convinced of this wholesale ENIC change. From my perspective, the model is still the same, albeit with a slight adjustment regarding signing older players, but we've yet to see them truly push the boat out with a proper marque signing.

posted on 28/6/22

I said when the £150m cash injection was made public that people should not get too carried away and wait and see where we are at the end of the window. It is too early to judge, but with ENIC's previous it is easy to see why the fans are sceptical. Levy is a master at pulling the wool over the fans eyes and plays them like a fiddle.

posted on 28/6/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by King of the Gil (U7905)
posted 3 minutes ago
Richarlison would be a great signing. Premier league proven and can play anywhere across the front three.

Feels like Jota for Liverpool. Would expect him to be a big player as we can't play Kane, Son and Kulu twice a week every week.
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Correct me if i am wrong.....but Spurs have done more deals than anyone else so far
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And we were the only team to sign top players in January but hey....let's dwell in the past

posted on 28/6/22

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot - Bissouma grabbed my butt (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well you're not mostly right. We didn't miss out on Gvardiol and Bastoni over transfer fees. We are acting differently to how we've done in the past - 3 signings complete (and one well into his thirties) right at the start of the window.

You're just mad we didn't get every shiny thing.
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Well lets wait until the window closes before fully judging I admit, however I'm yet to be convinced of this wholesale ENIC change. From my perspective, the model is still the same, albeit with a slight adjustment regarding signing older players, but we've yet to see them truly push the boat out with a proper marque signing.
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That's not acting different though is it? We've done Sanchez, Ndombele, Sessegnon for big numbers.

posted on 28/6/22

comment by Bãles left boot - Bissouma grabbed my butt (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Bissouma is probably our best midfielder.
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Good point, forgot about him. He's definitely an upgrade, no question. I just want to see the same in defence and attack. Put it this way, if I were Conte and Kane, signing the likes of Lenglet and Richarlison wouldn't convince me enough to stick around.

posted on 28/6/22

Yeah Lenglet fair enough. No one is excited by that. Richarlison is definitely underrated because people don't like him

posted on 28/6/22

It's a case that if you want backup players that are a bit meh...then go for players that are cheap,if you want to mix it with the big boys then having £50million players on the bench is the norm.

Especially players that are premier league proven and can play in multiple positions

posted on 28/6/22

comment by Colemanballs-جيش الدفاع الإسرائيلي (U22246)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's a case that if you want backup players that are a bit meh...then go for players that are cheap,if you want to mix it with the big boys then having £50million players on the bench is the norm.

Especially players that are premier league proven and can play in multiple positions
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Nope, you've misunderstood the point. If you buy players that undoubtedly go straight into the first team, you're automatically strengthening your bench with the player coming out. To my mind, both Richarlison and Lenglet are automatic benchers. That's not really all that ambitious and doesn't really make us a stronger outfit. A deeper squad but not a better team.

posted on 28/6/22

So let's see in the last year since Paratici we have signed

Romero
Perisic
Bissouma
Kulusevski

That all will improve the first team. We sign 2 more and we've nearly overhauled the team. Allowing the fact that 3 of those guys are irreplaceable. (Son Lloris Kane).

So we realistically can only over haul 8 positions and Paratici has already upgraded 4. RWB isthe real issue for me.

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