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comment by Pun (U21588)
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Red sky at night….

...thatched cottage on fire at the end of the village
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Red sky at night….


Also knew sky were Liverpool biased!
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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Oxtail (U18859)
posted 52 seconds ago
So the sky is indeed blue?
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Noooooo It's fekin grey.
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Of course it is in Scotland.
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I'm not in Scotland.There's a clue in my user name.
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Canadia n Scotland r same thing rly
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I'm not sure but I think you just started a war
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na not really scots dont mind canada and vice versa .... call either of them english right enough and thats where the insults begin
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Whodunnit, my maw's got dementia, but when people here call her an anglaise they get corrected instantly.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
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comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
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Sky noun
the area above the earth, in which clouds, the sun, etc. can be seen
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OK. So its an area. Can an area have a colour?
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Have you ever heard the term....grey area?
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What I've been saying.
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Ah, but did i say you are in scotland? and am i wrong? We're baking down here in the SE meanwhile its pishin gooon in Glasgee
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Pishing Arsenal fan in Glasgow?
Are you having a stroke, old chap?

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #4zA accide cchiu a lengua ca a spata - 🇮�... (U22472)
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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Oxtail (U18859)
posted 52 seconds ago
So the sky is indeed blue?
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Noooooo It's fekin grey.
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Of course it is in Scotland.
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I'm not in Scotland.There's a clue in my user name.
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Canadia n Scotland r same thing rly
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I'm not sure but I think you just started a war
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na not really scots dont mind canada and vice versa .... call either of them english right enough and thats where the insults begin
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Whodunnit, my maw's got dementia, but when people here call her an anglaise they get corrected instantly.
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I am biased tbf.... Im part canadian (both my grandparents are Canadian) and I still have quite a lot of family over there. Most of them in the sorta Brantford area south of toronto

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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Oxtail (U18859)
posted 52 seconds ago
So the sky is indeed blue?
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Noooooo It's fekin grey.
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Of course it is in Scotland.
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I'm not in Scotland.There's a clue in my user name.
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Canadia n Scotland r same thing rly
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I'm not sure but I think you just started a war
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na not really scots dont mind canada and vice versa .... call either of them english right enough and thats where the insults begin
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Whodunnit, my maw's got dementia, but when people here call her an anglaise they get corrected instantly.
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I am biased tbf.... Im part canadian (both my grandparents are Canadian) and I still have quite a lot of family over there. Most of them in the sorta Brantford area south of toronto
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Gretzky's hometown. Worked a contract up there in the 90s and met his old man Walter. He was installing phone lines.

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comment by #4zA accide cchiu a lengua ca a spata - 🇮�... (U22472)
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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Oxtail (U18859)
posted 52 seconds ago
So the sky is indeed blue?
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Noooooo It's fekin grey.
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Of course it is in Scotland.
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I'm not in Scotland.There's a clue in my user name.
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Canadia n Scotland r same thing rly
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I'm not sure but I think you just started a war
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na not really scots dont mind canada and vice versa .... call either of them english right enough and thats where the insults begin
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Whodunnit, my maw's got dementia, but when people here call her an anglaise they get corrected instantly.
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I am biased tbf.... Im part canadian (both my grandparents are Canadian) and I still have quite a lot of family over there. Most of them in the sorta Brantford area south of toronto
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Gretzky's hometown. Worked a contract up there in the 90s and met his old man Walter. He was installing phone lines.
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Have you tried his bourbon? It's actually pretty good

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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Oxtail (U18859)
posted 52 seconds ago
So the sky is indeed blue?
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Noooooo It's fekin grey.
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Of course it is in Scotland.
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I'm not in Scotland.There's a clue in my user name.
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Canadia n Scotland r same thing rly
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I'm not sure but I think you just started a war
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na not really scots dont mind canada and vice versa .... call either of them english right enough and thats where the insults begin
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whodunnit, my maw's got dementia, but when people here call her an anglaise they get corrected instantly.
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I am biased tbf.... Im part canadian (both my grandparents are Canadian) and I still have quite a lot of family over there. Most of them in the sorta Brantford area south of toronto
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Gretzky's hometown. Worked a contract up there in the 90s and met his old man Walter. He was installing phone lines.
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Have you tried his bourbon? It's actually pretty good
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Don't drink hard liquor.
Reminds me. How do French women hold their liquor?










By the ears.

The ability to differentiate the colour blue from other colours seems like it might be a fairly recent phenomenon. I believe Homer described the sea as "winey" back in the day. It didn't feature in much if any ancient literature with exception of Egyptians who were first to use the pigment in art. I believe there are still some isolated tribes who struggle between blue and green( Namibia if my memory isn't flawed)

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comment by Admin1 (U1)
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The ability to differentiate the colour blue from other colours seems like it might be a fairly recent phenomenon. I believe Homer described the sea as "winey" back in the day. It didn't feature in much if any ancient literature with exception of Egyptians who were first to use the pigment in art. I believe there are still some isolated tribes who struggle between blue and green( Namibia if my memory isn't flawed)


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The wine dark sea

Unless ancient Greak wine was blue?

Homer was probably drunk.

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comment by Admin1 (U1)
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The ability to differentiate the colour blue from other colours seems like it might be a fairly recent phenomenon. I believe Homer described the sea as "winey" back in the day. It didn't feature in much if any ancient literature with exception of Egyptians who were first to use the pigment in art. I believe there are still some isolated tribes who struggle between blue and green( Namibia if my memory isn't flawed)


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The wine dark sea

Unless ancient Greak wine was blue?
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Some folk think winey might have been a mistranslation. It was William Gladstone that picked up on the lack of colour in Greek literature.

But there is something that everyone understands to be sky and there is colour by definition of everything refracting white light and our brains making sense of the light our eyes capture.

If the early peoples had an issue with defining colour surely it was purely down to language. The sky was no less blue, grass no less green. They just didn't have the agreed terminology to describe what they saw. Basically all this 'sky doesn't exist, colour doesn't exist' stuff is trying to take us back there by way of trying to look clever on the internet.

We have words for these things, they are what they are. You're not arguing science by saying the sky isn't blue, you're arguing linguistics.

I think historically the sky was described as white. I read that in a book a few months ago, and for life of me can't recall what one.

But if colour is effected by the atmosphere, that could perhaps have something to do with it.

But it’s a fair point about linguistics.

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
But if colour is effected by the atmosphere, that could perhaps have something to do with it.
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Well no. My orange t shirt would look orange in space, because that's the wavelength of light refracted from the pigment in the fibres

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
But there is something that everyone understands to be sky and there is colour by definition of everything refracting white light and our brains making sense of the light our eyes capture.

If the early peoples had an issue with defining colour surely it was purely down to language. The sky was no less blue, grass no less green. They just didn't have the agreed terminology to describe what they saw. Basically all this 'sky doesn't exist, colour doesn't exist' stuff is trying to take us back there by way of trying to look clever on the internet.

We have words for these things, they are what they are. You're not arguing science by saying the sky isn't blue, you're arguing linguistics.
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I think there is legitimately some sort of brain perception divergence. I'll see if I can Google the tribe stuff.

https://gondwana-collection.com/blog/how-do-namibian-himbas-see-colour

I mean regarding the sky.

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comment by Admin1 (U1)
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The ability to differentiate the colour blue from other colours seems like it might be a fairly recent phenomenon. I believe Homer described the sea as "winey" back in the day. It didn't feature in much if any ancient literature with exception of Egyptians who were first to use the pigment in art. I believe there are still some isolated tribes who struggle between blue and green( Namibia if my memory isn't flawed)


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The wine dark sea

Unless ancient Greak wine was blue?
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Some folk think winey might have been a mistranslation. It was William Gladstone that picked up on the lack of colour in Greek literature.
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Hmmm

So the ancients did not mention color much?

Interesting.

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comment by Admin1 (U1)
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The ability to differentiate the colour blue from other colours seems like it might be a fairly recent phenomenon. I believe Homer described the sea as "winey" back in the day. It didn't feature in much if any ancient literature with exception of Egyptians who were first to use the pigment in art. I believe there are still some isolated tribes who struggle between blue and green( Namibia if my memory isn't flawed)


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The wine dark sea

Unless ancient Greak wine was blue?
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Some folk think winey might have been a mistranslation. It was William Gladstone that picked up on the lack of colour in Greek literature.
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Hmmm

So the ancients did not mention color much?

Interesting.
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https://historyofyesterday.com/why-blue-is-the-last-color-named-by-ancient-cultures-a76737af9ffc#:~:text=Homer%20and%20William%20Gladstone&text=In%20the%20Iliad%2C%20for%20example,would%20refer%20to%20as%20blue.

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https://gondwana-collection.com/blog/how-do-namibian-himbas-see-colour
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Interesting. But they still did define between blues and greens. Though different shades of green are obviously not important to them than blues, they wouldn't describe the sky as green if I understand that article correctly.

While interesting I'm not convinced this supports the idea that they're actually seeing different things. They just don't give it the same importance

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comment by #4zA accide cchiu a lengua ca a spata - 🇮🇹🇺🇦 (U22472)
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comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 4 minutes ago
The ability to differentiate the colour blue from other colours seems like it might be a fairly recent phenomenon. I believe Homer described the sea as "winey" back in the day. It didn't feature in much if any ancient literature with exception of Egyptians who were first to use the pigment in art. I believe there are still some isolated tribes who struggle between blue and green( Namibia if my memory isn't flawed)


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The wine dark sea

Unless ancient Greak wine was blue?
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Some folk think winey might have been a mistranslation. It was William Gladstone that picked up on the lack of colour in Greek literature.
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Hmmm

So the ancients did not mention color much?

Interesting.
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https://historyofyesterday.com/why-blue-is-the-last-color-named-by-ancient-cultures-a76737af9ffc#:~:text=Homer%20and%20William%20Gladstone&text=In%20the%20Iliad%2C%20for%20example,would%20refer%20to%20as%20blue.
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"Does that mean people couldn’t see those colors?
Not exactly. It is to be expected that they had the same capability to see colors as we do today. It seems they just saw colors they didn’t have a name for as hues of colors that had names. Researchers found that people actually see differences between colors stronger when they have a word for it."

This is my point. We're not talking science. It's language, how we describe the world around us.

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The ability to differentiate the colour blue from other colours seems like it might be a fairly recent phenomenon. I believe Homer described the sea as "winey" back in the day. It didn't feature in much if any ancient literature with exception of Egyptians who were first to use the pigment in art. I believe there are still some isolated tribes who struggle between blue and green( Namibia if my memory isn't flawed)


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The wine dark sea

Unless ancient Greak wine was blue?
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Some folk think winey might have been a mistranslation. It was William Gladstone that picked up on the lack of colour in Greek literature.
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Hmmm

So the ancients did not mention color much?

Interesting.
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Colour hadnt been invented before 1861.