it’s mental isn’t it. As a paying fan in a way your relationship getting cheated out of your money. Pay for (in theory) 90 mins of football. And only see 50 odd

So easy to rule out timewasting and give fans on average better value. Should have been done decades ago.

Needs something done.
Will be interesting to see tonight's stats as Everton took it to a whole new level with their antics.

This keeps coming up and it's still dumb. What will you actually gain from having 60 minutes on a stopwatch? You think teams won't just waste more time with the ball in play? You think managers and players won't still do things to break up the play and give everyone a breather?

If the stats haven't changed in all those years and you've enjoyed watching football in all those years what the frig are you wringing your hands about?

comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
This keeps coming up and it's still dumb. What will you actually gain from having 60 minutes on a stopwatch? You think teams won't just waste more time with the ball in play? You think managers and players won't still do things to break up the play and give everyone a breather?

If the stats haven't changed in all those years and you've enjoyed watching football in all those years what the frig are you wringing your hands about?
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Is this a serious post? Or a wind up? You can’t be serious

comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
This keeps coming up and it's still dumb. What will you actually gain from having 60 minutes on a stopwatch? You think teams won't just waste more time with the ball in play? You think managers and players won't still do things to break up the play and give everyone a breather?

If the stats haven't changed in all those years and you've enjoyed watching football in all those years what the frig are you wringing your hands about?
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That’s the point. First half tonight was not enjoyable in the slightest. Nor is playing Wolves any game.

Waste more time with the ball in play? how is that even possible. And even if it is then Atleast you have a chance of affecting it by closing down etc

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 36 seconds ago
Waste more time with the ball in play?how is that even possible. And even if it is then Atleast you have a chance of affecting it by closing down etc
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Is this a joke? Have you watched football before?

comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
This keeps coming up and it's still dumb. What will you actually gain from having 60 minutes on a stopwatch? You think teams won't just waste more time with the ball in play? You think managers and players won't still do things to break up the play and give everyone a breather?

If the stats haven't changed in all those years and you've enjoyed watching football in all those years what the frig are you wringing your hands about?
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That’s the point. First half tonight was not enjoyable in the slightest. Nor is playing Wolves any game.
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Just cos Wolves are terrible doesn't mean you have to change the rules of the sport tbf

Can't believe Pickford didn't get a yellow tonight.

Nothing to stop this happening.
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Apart from television schedules.

Refs just need to wake the **** up and start booking blatant time wasters. The Refs don't give a sheet until the last 20, by which point, its too late to make a difference.

Everton are the absolute worst for this now, truly horrible football club.

comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 36 seconds ago
Waste more time with the ball in play?how is that even possible. And even if it is then Atleast you have a chance of affecting it by closing down etc
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Is this a joke? Have you watched football before?
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How can you waste time if the balls in play? Explain

Pickford should have been booked in the first half & warned if he carried on he'd be off. Simple as that. It's cheating, end of story.

The three minutes added time at the end was a joke.
We should all be receiving a refund tonight after that.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 36 seconds ago
Waste more time with the ball in play?how is that even possible. And even if it is then Atleast you have a chance of affecting it by closing down etc
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Is this a joke? Have you watched football before?
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How can you waste time if the balls in play? Explain
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Holding the ball in the corner for a start

comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 36 seconds ago
Waste more time with the ball in play?how is that even possible. And even if it is then Atleast you have a chance of affecting it by closing down etc
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Is this a joke? Have you watched football before?
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How can you waste time if the balls in play? Explain
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Holding the ball in the corner for a start
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That’s not time wasting mate. Try again.

Imagine teams holding the ball in the corner for 90 minutes though I’m pretty sure the OP is talking about teams taking forever to take goal kicks etc from the off

Well it is time wasting

Besides, game management is a part of the sport. On the other end of the scale, an average means a fair few games are over it. I notice a City - Chelsea game was clocked at 68 minutes in play. Should those fans that watch teams over the average be deprived?

If the 60 minute average is used you basically end up with 0 more net football over a season. But you have definitively changed how the game is played to address a few edge cases. The rules are there to prevent egregious time-wasting, they just need to be applied properly.

And like I say, a lot of time wasting is done to break the momentum. Concede a few corners in a row and your defence is blowing out their arrises? Keeper goes down holding his head. Last 5 minute scramble from the oppo side to nick a goal? Do a sub every couple of minutes. It wouldn't actually make anything better, just different.

comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well it is time wasting
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It’s not though. Obstruction is a rule, although refs don’t govern it anymore for some reason. Bring back obstruction. Watch football be played for 60/70 minutes. Whatever it needs to be.

It is though. It's a deliberate tactic to waste time. Whether you like the rules or not that's what's happened in like forever to run down time

comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
Besides, game management is a part of the sport. On the other end of the scale, an average means a fair few games are over it. I notice a City - Chelsea game was clocked at 68 minutes in play. Should those fans that watch teams over the average be deprived?

If the 60 minute average is used you basically end up with 0 more net football over a season. But you have definitively changed how the game is played to address a few edge cases. The rules are there to prevent egregious time-wasting, they just need to be applied properly.

And like I say, a lot of time wasting is done to break the momentum. Concede a few corners in a row and your defence is blowing out their arrises? Keeper goes down holding his head. Last 5 minute scramble from the oppo side to nick a goal? Do a sub every couple of minutes. It wouldn't actually make anything better, just different.
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Agree. No need to change the rules. Just need refs to enforce them.

If the ref is holding his watch in the air to indicate that time is being added on because the set piece is taking too long, then it is a booking. Show the yellow card and it stops it.

I don’t understand why this isn’t the only obvious solution.

comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 7 seconds ago
It is though. It's a deliberate tactic to waste time. Whether you like the rules or not that's what's happened in like forever to run down time
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The difference is, the opposition can do something about it. The ball is in play. I’ve seen people score from nicking the ball form people holding ball in the corner

Maybe the refs just need to actually ref. There was about 6/7 minutes of players being injured today chelsea v Southampton (not that it would
Have mattered). There was then 6 subs. Only 5 mins added on