comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
*Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
Oh dear dear dear... you just can't grow up, calm down and discuss it as an adult, can you?
Do you ever stop to think that you're embarrassing yourself with your behaviour on here?
Absolutely pathetic.
Okay... I know that this applies to every set of football fans, you utter moron.
The difference is that United fans don't have a well documented problem with the monarchy, and nor do they have a history of booing and abusing the monarchy.
So there's not really any logical reason to expect United fans to disrupt a minute silence for the queen.
Are you getting it yet?
The fact I think that it's likely Liverpool fans would boo during a silence for the queen doesn't mean I think United fans are better than Liverpool fans.
It's not a point scoring exercise.
You really are a child.
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You came on for point scoring in fact this whole article singling out Liverpool and Celtic attracted you like a fly to a mound of dung.
I’ll say it again, a minutes silence would have been respected as it always has.
Dissent against having a monarchy is completely separate, and as seen it’s commonplace in other areas.
The hysteria about “disrespect” of the minutes silence which you have also sought to propagate is ill founded, and is rather about dissent towards the monarchy.
Which you have been a useless tool for actually. You’ve convinced no one, and done nothing except out yourself as a bootlicking forelock tugger that runs with whatever narrative comes out.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
they can't force mourning but they can say "we think we should so cancel stuff"
quite irritating to be honest.
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some idiots think they are being forced.
so its irritating, thats life , no big deal. Just irritating as you said.
All thats happened is some games got moved to a different day, and tv is a bit different. Some certain groups like to make a bigger deal of it than others it seems
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There is certainly coercion when the taxpayer funded broadcaster offers only one option.
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third world problems .... aww Im forced to turn on the tv and forced to watch one of 5 channels. Aww im forced to watch a game on a different day. I will expect the same articles if/when teams are playing in europe after crimbo and extra games need to be squeezed in and /or moved dates.
couple of games postponed. and some forced to greive, pour souls
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I’ll just have to assume that essentially it’s “fwck you” to the many thousands of fans who have booked time off, flights, hotels, train tickets and the like and it’s just tough that they will lose most of that money?
Just so we’re clear on the “poor souls” comment and bearing in mind that it’ll be likely that it will mainly affect people on incomes where this matters?
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its nothing new, it happens all the time. No different than the weather cancelling games that most think is more than safe enough to travel in and play football in. These flights, hotels, train tickets and the likes are still valid just the football game ticket isnt.
If people are in a position that their lives are greatly affected cos they can watch a football game then they need to prioritise things a little more. Its not great but like I said nothing new especially in scottish football.
Third world problems. couple of games postponed thats all.
I do think its a disgrace to be forced to grieve though.
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Eh?
I think you’ve got that the wrong way round. The flights will be lost. If booking a hotel with a cancellation policy then yes, that can be cancelled. Otherwise if taken on a non refundable basis then not obviously.
Train fares will have a fee for non use at a minimum or again may be non refundable.
The one thing that stay ]s valid is the match ticket, provided the fan can make the rescheduled game. If not, then tough.
Weather does cancel some games but when was the last time weather cancelled an entire fixture list including grass roots?
I think you’re making heavy weather of trying to imply some minor inconvenience. To many thousands it’s not.
comment by Fik Tossa (U22768)
posted 16 minutes ago
Arsenal v PSV postponed due to lack of police FFS
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Yep. Saw that. Plod can’t cope. What a shock
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
forced no, but what would you call it? people are being forced to cancel their plans.
we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too.
naw.
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i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
"we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too."
maybe thats the problem, no one is saying this , this is the spin your putting on it.
call it like it is .... a maximum of 2 postponed games for your club. third world overprivileged problems.
Im just worried that some of you are grieving enough and the consequences that will follow.
*Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
Nope, I came on to give my opinion based on credible points... it says everything about you that you think that, because you just can't fathom that people can say anything negative about Liverpool without it being a 'wum'.
You're a child.
I'm not here to convince anyone, though I would point you to a Celtic fan who agrees with me.
As I said, there's nothing illogical about believing a group of fans who will happily mock the Munich Air disaster and who boo/abuse the mocharchy, would book a minute silence for the queen, and your certainty otherwise is meaningless.
I hope for your sake that one day you actually grow up, because this is absolutely pathetic.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
forced no, but what would you call it? people are being forced to cancel their plans.
we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too.
naw.
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i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
"we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too."
maybe thats the problem, no one is saying this , this is the spin your putting on it.
call it like it is .... a maximum of 2 postponed games for your club. third world overprivileged problems.
Im just worried that some of you are grieving enough and the consequences that will follow.
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*are not grieving enough.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
forced no, but what would you call it? people are being forced to cancel their plans.
we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too.
naw.
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i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
"we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too."
maybe thats the problem, no one is saying this , this is the spin your putting on it.
call it like it is .... a maximum of 2 postponed games for your club. third world overprivileged problems.
Im just worried that some of you are grieving enough and the consequences that will follow.
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Whodunnit, I think you've messed up.
I think the phrase is 1st world problems. Unless you think the 3rd world is "over privileged".
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posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Why are there no away fans at either leg of the Rangers v Napoli ties?
Football is slowly being sanitised and the way clubs (particularly in Scotland) are starting to pick and choose to almost deny away supporters a seat by ridiculous restrictions on numbers just makes it even worse. It’s a growing trend unfortunately.
St Mirren being the latest shower. Wish we’d grow a backbone and just refuse any away tickets until they decide to be more accommodating. Whilst we’re at it, deny their support tickets at our grounds.
Hearts, Rangers and St Mirren come to mind.
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The irony is that the only club in Scotland to deny away supporters an opportunity to watch their team during the pandemic - either in person or via pay per view - was Celtic.
But yeah, let's have a go at the other teams and skip over that little fact...
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That’s just not the case at all Ivan. The layout at Celtic and the Covid protocols prevented “safe” access for an away support. It was a health authority decision.
You think Celtic would choose to miss out on income?
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It's odd that every single club - including Rangers - allowed away fans.
But even your safety thing...it still doesn't explain why PPV opportunities weren't made available to away fans (and again, even Rangers did that).
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Celtic did do PPV. You could pay by game iirc and it wasn’t exclusive to Celtic fans
And next time don’t wait 2 days to reply. I get confused 😐
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For much of the time they didn't, and there was no way for away fans to watch the games.
Something about how much they'd have to charge so that season ticket holders weren't disadvantaged or something.
Also it was 24 hours
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
forced no, but what would you call it? people are being forced to cancel their plans.
we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too.
naw.
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i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
"we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too."
maybe thats the problem, no one is saying this , this is the spin your putting on it.
call it like it is .... a maximum of 2 postponed games for your club. third world overprivileged problems.
Im just worried that some of you are grieving enough and the consequences that will follow.
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Whodunnit, I think you've messed up.
I think the phrase is 1st world problems. Unless you think the 3rd world is "over privileged".
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yup cheers for the correction.
As I said, there's nothing illogical about believing a group of fans who will happily mock the Munich Air disaster and who boo/abuse the mocharchy, would book a minute silence for the queen, and your certainty otherwise is meaningless.
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You’re conflating dissent against the monarchy with disrespecting a minutes silence with abusive songs in order to make a point.
Trying very hard to WUM aren’t you. We see you.
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
As I said, there's nothing illogical about believing a group of fans who will happily mock the Munich Air disaster and who boo/abuse the mocharchy, would book a minute silence for the queen, and your certainty otherwise is meaningless.
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You’re conflating dissent against the monarchy with disrespecting a minutes silence with abusive songs in order to make a point.
Trying very hard to WUM aren’t you. We see you.
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This constant need to tell anyone who upsets you that they're a wum really misses the point that just because you're upset, doesn't mean said person is trying to wind you up.
I'm putting two things together:
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
2. That there is a very strong feeling against the monarchy, which spills into abuse and booing.
Those two things combined make it perfectly logical to believe that a minute silence for the queen wouldn't be respected at Anfield.
Don't agree? Whoopdeedoo. That is your right.
But there's nothing 'wumming' or illogical about this, and your approach to discussing this is childish and pathetic... although sadly in line with your approach every time I come across you on here.
Is there something wrong with you, or are you just angry all of the time?
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 20 minutes ago
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posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Why are there no away fans at either leg of the Rangers v Napoli ties?
Football is slowly being sanitised and the way clubs (particularly in Scotland) are starting to pick and choose to almost deny away supporters a seat by ridiculous restrictions on numbers just makes it even worse. It’s a growing trend unfortunately.
St Mirren being the latest shower. Wish we’d grow a backbone and just refuse any away tickets until they decide to be more accommodating. Whilst we’re at it, deny their support tickets at our grounds.
Hearts, Rangers and St Mirren come to mind.
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The irony is that the only club in Scotland to deny away supporters an opportunity to watch their team during the pandemic - either in person or via pay per view - was Celtic.
But yeah, let's have a go at the other teams and skip over that little fact...
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That’s just not the case at all Ivan. The layout at Celtic and the Covid protocols prevented “safe” access for an away support. It was a health authority decision.
You think Celtic would choose to miss out on income?
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It's odd that every single club - including Rangers - allowed away fans.
But even your safety thing...it still doesn't explain why PPV opportunities weren't made available to away fans (and again, even Rangers did that).
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Celtic did do PPV. You could pay by game iirc and it wasn’t exclusive to Celtic fans
And next time don’t wait 2 days to reply. I get confused 😐
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For much of the time they didn't, and there was no way for away fans to watch the games.
Something about how much they'd have to charge so that season ticket holders weren't disadvantaged or something.
Also it was 24 hours
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I rest my case
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
As I said, there's nothing illogical about believing a group of fans who will happily mock the Munich Air disaster and who boo/abuse the mocharchy, would book a minute silence for the queen, and your certainty otherwise is meaningless.
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You’re conflating dissent against the monarchy with disrespecting a minutes silence with abusive songs in order to make a point.
Trying very hard to WUM aren’t you. We see you.
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This constant need to tell anyone who upsets you that they're a wum really misses the point that just because you're upset, doesn't mean said person is trying to wind you up.
I'm putting two things together:
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
2. That there is a very strong feeling against the monarchy, which spills into abuse and booing.
Those two things combined make it perfectly logical to believe that a minute silence for the queen wouldn't be respected at Anfield.
Don't agree? Whoopdeedoo. That is your right.
But there's nothing 'wumming' or illogical about this, and your approach to discussing this is childish and pathetic... although sadly in line with your approach every time I come across you on here.
Is there something wrong with you, or are you just angry all of the time?
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Not angry at all, but let’s take the narrative that you believe to be true…
What would like done about it, and how would you assist in bringing that to bear?
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
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By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
*Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
There's no narrative.
The two things that I said are facts, and they are the basis for my opinion, which I gave as part of my post on this article.
I don't want anything 'done about it'... it's an opinion about a purely hypothetical scenario.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
*Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
There's no narrative.
The two things that I said are facts, and they are the basis for my opinion, which I gave as part of my post on this article.
I don't want anything 'done about it'... it's an opinion about a purely hypothetical scenario.
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Is that what you’re left with?
Grow up.
I’ve answered your points. If you can’t debate them and you’re too childish to admit they’re valid then do yourself a favour and quietly slink away.
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
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By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
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And Celtic fans will boo during the minutes silence
You might want to prepare yourself during this difficult time
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
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By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
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And Celtic fans will boo during the minutes silence
You might want to prepare yourself during this difficult time
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so long as they are not forced to boo, they can voice their opinions if they want, whether it lacks any class or not is besides the point
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 12 minutes ago
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
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By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
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But you’re missing the second key part, aren’t you.
There’s no connection between United fans and the monarchy.
But this sums you up. Everything is about United vs Liverpool… point scoring… oneupmanship.
Can’t someone just have an opinion without it being a wum? Maybe not in your world.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 12 minutes ago
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
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By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
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But you’re missing the second key part, aren’t you.
There’s no connection between United fans and the monarchy.
But this sums you up. Everything is about United vs Liverpool… point scoring… oneupmanship.
Can’t someone just have an opinion without it being a wum? Maybe not in your world.
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Who mentioned Man Utd in the above? That could be any other english football club.
So…
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-mark-queens-passing
thereby this article is a load of the hysteria that people like Winston have fallen over.
i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
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"change your plans"
i'm sure the booking companies will be really accomodating, ryanair are well known for their generosity.
nobody should have to change their plans cause someone died ffs, have a minutes silence, have a big tax payer funded funeral and then let the family grieve in peace.
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 12 minutes ago
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
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By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
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But you’re missing the second key part, aren’t you.
There’s no connection between United fans and the monarchy.
But this sums you up. Everything is about United vs Liverpool… point scoring… oneupmanship.
Can’t someone just have an opinion without it being a wum? Maybe not in your world.
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Who mentioned Man Utd in the above? That could be any other english football club.
So…
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-mark-queens-passing
thereby this article is a load of the hysteria that people like Winston have fallen over.
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You’ve already mentioned Man Utd.
You seem to think, because you’re a child, that by stating a belief that some Liverpool fans will boo during the minutes silence that the implication is that they’re a worse set of fans than others.
Certainly not what I said.
So Liverpool have announced a minutes silence… how does that prove anything I’ve said m as hysteria?
I think there’ll be some people in the crowd who will make a noise. I may well be wrong. We’ll see, won’t we?
Perhaps the bickering about it might lead some Liverpool fans to decide to prove a point.. perhaps not. Time will tell.
Not sure why you’re throwing such a wobbly about me having the view I do.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
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"change your plans"
i'm sure the booking companies will be really accomodating, ryanair are well known for their generosity.
nobody should have to change their plans cause someone died ffs, have a minutes silence, have a big tax payer funded funeral and then let the family grieve in peace.
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There are established safety protocols for the postponing of football games (E.g. frozen pitch). Completely different from the “aww look at me mourning” nonsense causing the postponement this weekend just gone.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 4 seconds ago
i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
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"change your plans"
i'm sure the booking companies will be really accomodating, ryanair are well known for their generosity.
nobody should have to change their plans cause someone died ffs, have a minutes silence, have a big tax payer funded funeral and then let the family grieve in peace.
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happens all the time, you could say its the norm for games to get re-arranged, especially in scotland. Will we expect this same article when the winter weather kicks in?
IMO no-one should have to cancel their plans cos a bit of snow ends up on train tracks and the same companies that never had a problem with it for 100 or so years then decide its not safe to travel. Or the year where games where postponed cos there was a bit of ice on the pavements.
This is a once in 70 yrs event that is taking place. If a cpl games get moved (and people are given as much notice as possible far more so than what refs give you at the grounds when deciding if a game goes ahead) the no biggie.
I understand some of you maybe a little fragile after being forced to grieve
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posted on 12/9/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
*Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
Oh dear dear dear... you just can't grow up, calm down and discuss it as an adult, can you?
Do you ever stop to think that you're embarrassing yourself with your behaviour on here?
Absolutely pathetic.
Okay... I know that this applies to every set of football fans, you utter moron.
The difference is that United fans don't have a well documented problem with the monarchy, and nor do they have a history of booing and abusing the monarchy.
So there's not really any logical reason to expect United fans to disrupt a minute silence for the queen.
Are you getting it yet?
The fact I think that it's likely Liverpool fans would boo during a silence for the queen doesn't mean I think United fans are better than Liverpool fans.
It's not a point scoring exercise.
You really are a child.
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You came on for point scoring in fact this whole article singling out Liverpool and Celtic attracted you like a fly to a mound of dung.
I’ll say it again, a minutes silence would have been respected as it always has.
Dissent against having a monarchy is completely separate, and as seen it’s commonplace in other areas.
The hysteria about “disrespect” of the minutes silence which you have also sought to propagate is ill founded, and is rather about dissent towards the monarchy.
Which you have been a useless tool for actually. You’ve convinced no one, and done nothing except out yourself as a bootlicking forelock tugger that runs with whatever narrative comes out.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
they can't force mourning but they can say "we think we should so cancel stuff"
quite irritating to be honest.
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some idiots think they are being forced.
so its irritating, thats life , no big deal. Just irritating as you said.
All thats happened is some games got moved to a different day, and tv is a bit different. Some certain groups like to make a bigger deal of it than others it seems
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There is certainly coercion when the taxpayer funded broadcaster offers only one option.
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third world problems .... aww Im forced to turn on the tv and forced to watch one of 5 channels. Aww im forced to watch a game on a different day. I will expect the same articles if/when teams are playing in europe after crimbo and extra games need to be squeezed in and /or moved dates.
couple of games postponed. and some forced to greive, pour souls
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I’ll just have to assume that essentially it’s “fwck you” to the many thousands of fans who have booked time off, flights, hotels, train tickets and the like and it’s just tough that they will lose most of that money?
Just so we’re clear on the “poor souls” comment and bearing in mind that it’ll be likely that it will mainly affect people on incomes where this matters?
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its nothing new, it happens all the time. No different than the weather cancelling games that most think is more than safe enough to travel in and play football in. These flights, hotels, train tickets and the likes are still valid just the football game ticket isnt.
If people are in a position that their lives are greatly affected cos they can watch a football game then they need to prioritise things a little more. Its not great but like I said nothing new especially in scottish football.
Third world problems. couple of games postponed thats all.
I do think its a disgrace to be forced to grieve though.
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Eh?
I think you’ve got that the wrong way round. The flights will be lost. If booking a hotel with a cancellation policy then yes, that can be cancelled. Otherwise if taken on a non refundable basis then not obviously.
Train fares will have a fee for non use at a minimum or again may be non refundable.
The one thing that stay ]s valid is the match ticket, provided the fan can make the rescheduled game. If not, then tough.
Weather does cancel some games but when was the last time weather cancelled an entire fixture list including grass roots?
I think you’re making heavy weather of trying to imply some minor inconvenience. To many thousands it’s not.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by Fik Tossa (U22768)
posted 16 minutes ago
Arsenal v PSV postponed due to lack of police FFS
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Yep. Saw that. Plod can’t cope. What a shock
posted on 12/9/22
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
forced no, but what would you call it? people are being forced to cancel their plans.
we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too.
naw.
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i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
"we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too."
maybe thats the problem, no one is saying this , this is the spin your putting on it.
call it like it is .... a maximum of 2 postponed games for your club. third world overprivileged problems.
Im just worried that some of you are grieving enough and the consequences that will follow.
posted on 12/9/22
*Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
Nope, I came on to give my opinion based on credible points... it says everything about you that you think that, because you just can't fathom that people can say anything negative about Liverpool without it being a 'wum'.
You're a child.
I'm not here to convince anyone, though I would point you to a Celtic fan who agrees with me.
As I said, there's nothing illogical about believing a group of fans who will happily mock the Munich Air disaster and who boo/abuse the mocharchy, would book a minute silence for the queen, and your certainty otherwise is meaningless.
I hope for your sake that one day you actually grow up, because this is absolutely pathetic.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
forced no, but what would you call it? people are being forced to cancel their plans.
we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too.
naw.
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i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
"we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too."
maybe thats the problem, no one is saying this , this is the spin your putting on it.
call it like it is .... a maximum of 2 postponed games for your club. third world overprivileged problems.
Im just worried that some of you are grieving enough and the consequences that will follow.
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*are not grieving enough.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
forced no, but what would you call it? people are being forced to cancel their plans.
we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too.
naw.
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i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
"we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too."
maybe thats the problem, no one is saying this , this is the spin your putting on it.
call it like it is .... a maximum of 2 postponed games for your club. third world overprivileged problems.
Im just worried that some of you are grieving enough and the consequences that will follow.
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Whodunnit, I think you've messed up.
I think the phrase is 1st world problems. Unless you think the 3rd world is "over privileged".
posted on 12/9/22
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Why are there no away fans at either leg of the Rangers v Napoli ties?
Football is slowly being sanitised and the way clubs (particularly in Scotland) are starting to pick and choose to almost deny away supporters a seat by ridiculous restrictions on numbers just makes it even worse. It’s a growing trend unfortunately.
St Mirren being the latest shower. Wish we’d grow a backbone and just refuse any away tickets until they decide to be more accommodating. Whilst we’re at it, deny their support tickets at our grounds.
Hearts, Rangers and St Mirren come to mind.
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The irony is that the only club in Scotland to deny away supporters an opportunity to watch their team during the pandemic - either in person or via pay per view - was Celtic.
But yeah, let's have a go at the other teams and skip over that little fact...
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That’s just not the case at all Ivan. The layout at Celtic and the Covid protocols prevented “safe” access for an away support. It was a health authority decision.
You think Celtic would choose to miss out on income?
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It's odd that every single club - including Rangers - allowed away fans.
But even your safety thing...it still doesn't explain why PPV opportunities weren't made available to away fans (and again, even Rangers did that).
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Celtic did do PPV. You could pay by game iirc and it wasn’t exclusive to Celtic fans
And next time don’t wait 2 days to reply. I get confused 😐
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For much of the time they didn't, and there was no way for away fans to watch the games.
Something about how much they'd have to charge so that season ticket holders weren't disadvantaged or something.
Also it was 24 hours
posted on 12/9/22
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
forced no, but what would you call it? people are being forced to cancel their plans.
we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too.
naw.
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i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
"we're grieving so f... the rest, they should grieve too."
maybe thats the problem, no one is saying this , this is the spin your putting on it.
call it like it is .... a maximum of 2 postponed games for your club. third world overprivileged problems.
Im just worried that some of you are grieving enough and the consequences that will follow.
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Whodunnit, I think you've messed up.
I think the phrase is 1st world problems. Unless you think the 3rd world is "over privileged".
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yup cheers for the correction.
posted on 12/9/22
As I said, there's nothing illogical about believing a group of fans who will happily mock the Munich Air disaster and who boo/abuse the mocharchy, would book a minute silence for the queen, and your certainty otherwise is meaningless.
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You’re conflating dissent against the monarchy with disrespecting a minutes silence with abusive songs in order to make a point.
Trying very hard to WUM aren’t you. We see you.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
As I said, there's nothing illogical about believing a group of fans who will happily mock the Munich Air disaster and who boo/abuse the mocharchy, would book a minute silence for the queen, and your certainty otherwise is meaningless.
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You’re conflating dissent against the monarchy with disrespecting a minutes silence with abusive songs in order to make a point.
Trying very hard to WUM aren’t you. We see you.
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This constant need to tell anyone who upsets you that they're a wum really misses the point that just because you're upset, doesn't mean said person is trying to wind you up.
I'm putting two things together:
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
2. That there is a very strong feeling against the monarchy, which spills into abuse and booing.
Those two things combined make it perfectly logical to believe that a minute silence for the queen wouldn't be respected at Anfield.
Don't agree? Whoopdeedoo. That is your right.
But there's nothing 'wumming' or illogical about this, and your approach to discussing this is childish and pathetic... although sadly in line with your approach every time I come across you on here.
Is there something wrong with you, or are you just angry all of the time?
posted on 12/9/22
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Why are there no away fans at either leg of the Rangers v Napoli ties?
Football is slowly being sanitised and the way clubs (particularly in Scotland) are starting to pick and choose to almost deny away supporters a seat by ridiculous restrictions on numbers just makes it even worse. It’s a growing trend unfortunately.
St Mirren being the latest shower. Wish we’d grow a backbone and just refuse any away tickets until they decide to be more accommodating. Whilst we’re at it, deny their support tickets at our grounds.
Hearts, Rangers and St Mirren come to mind.
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The irony is that the only club in Scotland to deny away supporters an opportunity to watch their team during the pandemic - either in person or via pay per view - was Celtic.
But yeah, let's have a go at the other teams and skip over that little fact...
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That’s just not the case at all Ivan. The layout at Celtic and the Covid protocols prevented “safe” access for an away support. It was a health authority decision.
You think Celtic would choose to miss out on income?
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It's odd that every single club - including Rangers - allowed away fans.
But even your safety thing...it still doesn't explain why PPV opportunities weren't made available to away fans (and again, even Rangers did that).
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Celtic did do PPV. You could pay by game iirc and it wasn’t exclusive to Celtic fans
And next time don’t wait 2 days to reply. I get confused 😐
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For much of the time they didn't, and there was no way for away fans to watch the games.
Something about how much they'd have to charge so that season ticket holders weren't disadvantaged or something.
Also it was 24 hours
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I rest my case
posted on 12/9/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
As I said, there's nothing illogical about believing a group of fans who will happily mock the Munich Air disaster and who boo/abuse the mocharchy, would book a minute silence for the queen, and your certainty otherwise is meaningless.
—————
You’re conflating dissent against the monarchy with disrespecting a minutes silence with abusive songs in order to make a point.
Trying very hard to WUM aren’t you. We see you.
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This constant need to tell anyone who upsets you that they're a wum really misses the point that just because you're upset, doesn't mean said person is trying to wind you up.
I'm putting two things together:
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
2. That there is a very strong feeling against the monarchy, which spills into abuse and booing.
Those two things combined make it perfectly logical to believe that a minute silence for the queen wouldn't be respected at Anfield.
Don't agree? Whoopdeedoo. That is your right.
But there's nothing 'wumming' or illogical about this, and your approach to discussing this is childish and pathetic... although sadly in line with your approach every time I come across you on here.
Is there something wrong with you, or are you just angry all of the time?
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Not angry at all, but let’s take the narrative that you believe to be true…
What would like done about it, and how would you assist in bringing that to bear?
posted on 12/9/22
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
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By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
posted on 12/9/22
*Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
There's no narrative.
The two things that I said are facts, and they are the basis for my opinion, which I gave as part of my post on this article.
I don't want anything 'done about it'... it's an opinion about a purely hypothetical scenario.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
*Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
There's no narrative.
The two things that I said are facts, and they are the basis for my opinion, which I gave as part of my post on this article.
I don't want anything 'done about it'... it's an opinion about a purely hypothetical scenario.
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posted on 12/9/22
Is that what you’re left with?
Grow up.
I’ve answered your points. If you can’t debate them and you’re too childish to admit they’re valid then do yourself a favour and quietly slink away.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
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By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
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And Celtic fans will boo during the minutes silence
You might want to prepare yourself during this difficult time
posted on 12/9/22
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
————
By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
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And Celtic fans will boo during the minutes silence
You might want to prepare yourself during this difficult time
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so long as they are not forced to boo, they can voice their opinions if they want, whether it lacks any class or not is besides the point
posted on 12/9/22
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 12 minutes ago
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
————
By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
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But you’re missing the second key part, aren’t you.
There’s no connection between United fans and the monarchy.
But this sums you up. Everything is about United vs Liverpool… point scoring… oneupmanship.
Can’t someone just have an opinion without it being a wum? Maybe not in your world.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 12 minutes ago
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
————
By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
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But you’re missing the second key part, aren’t you.
There’s no connection between United fans and the monarchy.
But this sums you up. Everything is about United vs Liverpool… point scoring… oneupmanship.
Can’t someone just have an opinion without it being a wum? Maybe not in your world.
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Who mentioned Man Utd in the above? That could be any other english football club.
So…
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-mark-queens-passing
thereby this article is a load of the hysteria that people like Winston have fallen over.
posted on 12/9/22
i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
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"change your plans"
i'm sure the booking companies will be really accomodating, ryanair are well known for their generosity.
nobody should have to change their plans cause someone died ffs, have a minutes silence, have a big tax payer funded funeral and then let the family grieve in peace.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 12 minutes ago
1. Some of these people have no morals whatsoever. If you're prepared to sing songs about an air disaster that killed several people then you'll probably be willing to disrupt a minutes silence.
————
By the same token if you’re prepared to sing songs about football supporters dying in a disaster, also having disrupted minutes silences about it, perhaps even pursued narratives to victim blame then you’re the type of person to disrupt minutes silences.
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But you’re missing the second key part, aren’t you.
There’s no connection between United fans and the monarchy.
But this sums you up. Everything is about United vs Liverpool… point scoring… oneupmanship.
Can’t someone just have an opinion without it being a wum? Maybe not in your world.
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Who mentioned Man Utd in the above? That could be any other english football club.
So…
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-mark-queens-passing
thereby this article is a load of the hysteria that people like Winston have fallen over.
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You’ve already mentioned Man Utd.
You seem to think, because you’re a child, that by stating a belief that some Liverpool fans will boo during the minutes silence that the implication is that they’re a worse set of fans than others.
Certainly not what I said.
So Liverpool have announced a minutes silence… how does that prove anything I’ve said m as hysteria?
I think there’ll be some people in the crowd who will make a noise. I may well be wrong. We’ll see, won’t we?
Perhaps the bickering about it might lead some Liverpool fans to decide to prove a point.. perhaps not. Time will tell.
Not sure why you’re throwing such a wobbly about me having the view I do.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
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"change your plans"
i'm sure the booking companies will be really accomodating, ryanair are well known for their generosity.
nobody should have to change their plans cause someone died ffs, have a minutes silence, have a big tax payer funded funeral and then let the family grieve in peace.
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There are established safety protocols for the postponing of football games (E.g. frozen pitch). Completely different from the “aww look at me mourning” nonsense causing the postponement this weekend just gone.
posted on 12/9/22
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 4 seconds ago
i wouldnt call it forced to grieve like some. Id say forced to change your plans, just the same in this instance of a football game as if it snowed the night before and the game was called off.
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"change your plans"
i'm sure the booking companies will be really accomodating, ryanair are well known for their generosity.
nobody should have to change their plans cause someone died ffs, have a minutes silence, have a big tax payer funded funeral and then let the family grieve in peace.
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happens all the time, you could say its the norm for games to get re-arranged, especially in scotland. Will we expect this same article when the winter weather kicks in?
IMO no-one should have to cancel their plans cos a bit of snow ends up on train tracks and the same companies that never had a problem with it for 100 or so years then decide its not safe to travel. Or the year where games where postponed cos there was a bit of ice on the pavements.
This is a once in 70 yrs event that is taking place. If a cpl games get moved (and people are given as much notice as possible far more so than what refs give you at the grounds when deciding if a game goes ahead) the no biggie.
I understand some of you maybe a little fragile after being forced to grieve
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