problem is you just pulled those stats out your ass
"However even when he is in position or one on one or has to defend, he's poor at it."
This.
Klopp tried to make out that all the criticism of TAA is because he's caught up the field.
Nonsense.
The CL final is a good example of TAA lacking defensive qualities and costing Liverpool dear.
It's an area of his game he surely should be looking to work on, although I also wonder if he's ever been tried in central midfield.
https://www.squawka.com/en/comparison-matrix/?compare=SZvcjAjMwZvfHigQFMOVm
Trent clear lol
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 9 minutes ago
problem is you just pulled those stats out your ass
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What? I don't think you grasped what I said
Top player is Reece. I'm not so sure he's as good in a back four but playing fullback is incredibly hard in the modern game.
Won't be long until the likes of Barca and Madrid come sniffing I reckon, he has a top all around game that would suit them.
tbf robbing hes also been playing RCB too, one of the errors i'll agree with the tuchel haters about.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
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Who's the best striker on the planet, from a defensive perspective?
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Trent plays in a team where he's a huge part of the attack that has made us so successful to this season.
If you can find me a team that plays their striker at centre back, GFI.
To answer your question directly, Firmino.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
"However even when he is in position or one on one or has to defend, he's poor at it."
This.
Klopp tried to make out that all the criticism of TAA is because he's caught up the field.
Nonsense.
The CL final is a good example of TAA lacking defensive qualities and costing Liverpool dear.
It's an area of his game he surely should be looking to work on, although I also wonder if he's ever been tried in central midfield.
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Love how Trent cost us dear, not the other 10 players on the field that couldn't facking score despite numerous opportunities.
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
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Who's the best striker on the planet, from a defensive perspective?
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Trent plays in a team where he's a huge part of the attack that has made us so successful to this season.
If you can find me a team that plays their striker at centre back, GFI.
To answer your question directly, Firmino.
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So?
The discussion isn't about whether he's good for Liverpool, it's about the best full back in the world.
I don't care if he's the best going forward - that's not the discussion.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Lerradinho (U21557)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's up there, but for me Hakimi and Kimmich (not playing there as much anymore) are a bit better but they are also more experienced than James so he will catch up. I do think he's by far the best English FB as TAA has fallen off a cliff. He's just not been great offensively, while he's always been fragile defensively but so were Dani Alves and Maicon.
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Watch the french and German leagues a lot?
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Not as much lately, but Bundesliga is a favorite of mine next to the PL and is severely underestimated here due to some high profile flops. I do judge both of them mostly on CL and NT footie with higher pressure/stakes then at their lobsided clubs.
2 years ago I also believed that TAA was the best RB in the world and that he would just kick on and improve from there. For me that's a not often mentioned difference between Klopp and Guardiola. The latter can still improve (old) world class players even further. Plenty of examples who said so themselves like Robben, Lahm, KDB and Haaland this week in an interview with Gary Neville.
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
"However even when he is in position or one on one or has to defend, he's poor at it."
This.
Klopp tried to make out that all the criticism of TAA is because he's caught up the field.
Nonsense.
The CL final is a good example of TAA lacking defensive qualities and costing Liverpool dear.
It's an area of his game he surely should be looking to work on, although I also wonder if he's ever been tried in central midfield.
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Love how Trent cost us dear, not the other 10 players on the field that couldn't facking score despite numerous opportunities.
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Are the two mutually exclusive?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
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Who's the best striker on the planet, from a defensive perspective?
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Trent plays in a team where he's a huge part of the attack that has made us so successful to this season.
If you can find me a team that plays their striker at centre back, GFI.
To answer your question directly, Firmino.
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So?
The discussion isn't about whether he's good for Liverpool, it's about the best full back in the world.
I don't care if he's the best going forward - that's not the discussion.
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So attacking prowess is no indicator of a good full back?
It's one aspect.
But just saying 'From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.' in response to the OP is irrelevant and suggests you haven't understood the question.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
It's one aspect.
But just saying 'From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.' in response to the OP is irrelevant and suggests you haven't understood the question.
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Ok winston, or I'm making a point that perhaps, due to the importance of both defence and offence in that position that it's perhaps a more multi-faceted question than "who's the best"?
Who's the most well rounded, maybe, and TAA is not in that discussion.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
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Hard to quantify. Trent basically plays as a midfielder. I saw the other day a stat on MNF and he’s had something like double the crosses of the next highest so the actual goal conversion % is pretty low
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So when we talk about attack he is a midfielder, but when we talk about defence he is judged like any other fullback? He can't be up the pitch and back to defend for 90 minutes. We know that playing him in an advanced role creates a weakness in our defence but the trade off is that he is invaluable in attack. He would be a much better defender if he didn't have to play an advanced role.
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I rarely get on him about being caught out up field, its obviously a tactic and one that is as you mention, a trade off. However even when he is in position or one on one or has to defend, he's poor at it.
The guy is not a traditional full back because his positioning is completely different. But its hard to say hes the best attacking fullback in the world.
If someone crosses 100 times and creates 5 goals and someone else crosses 20 times and creates 4 goals, whats best.
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First off 5 goals is always better than 4 goals.
I don't think TAA does any worse than any other defender when in position and when the ball is in front of him. He is almost always running back and that's hard for any defender. His defending can also be judged to a slightly higher standard because of how brilliant he is in other areas of the pitch.
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
It's one aspect.
But just saying 'From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.' in response to the OP is irrelevant and suggests you haven't understood the question.
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Ok winston, or I'm making a point that perhaps, due to the importance of both defence and offence in that position that it's perhaps a more multi-faceted question than "who's the best"?
Who's the most well rounded, maybe, and TAA is not in that discussion.
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Fair enough... but that didn't really come across at all.
If you're challenging the OP on what the 'best fullback' looks like, then it's fair - obviously impossible to answer fully as it depends on all sorts of things.
For me though, it's a case of judging an all round game to the extent that the player could play for any top club and still be top quality.
I'm sure that applies to Trent as much as it does to others, because of his defensive frailties.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
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Who's the best striker on the planet, from a defensive perspective?
=≠==≠==
Firmino
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
It's one aspect.
But just saying 'From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.' in response to the OP is irrelevant and suggests you haven't understood the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok winston, or I'm making a point that perhaps, due to the importance of both defence and offence in that position that it's perhaps a more multi-faceted question than "who's the best"?
Who's the most well rounded, maybe, and TAA is not in that discussion.
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Fair enough... but that didn't really come across at all.
If you're challenging the OP on what the 'best fullback' looks like, then it's fair - obviously impossible to answer fully as it depends on all sorts of things.
For me though, it's a case of judging an all round game to the extent that the player could play for any top club and still be top quality.
I'm sure that applies to Trent as much as it does to others, because of his defensive frailties.
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Trent is in the conversation for "best" because of the impact he has on the side from an attacking perspective, which is vital in the modern game.
The upsides of having him in the team for Liverpool clearly outweigh the downsides (but I do buy in a little to the argument that his defensive frailties are in part due to the system we are currently 'attempting' to play).
I also prefer Cancelo tbh.
For me that's a not often mentioned difference between Klopp and Guardiola. The latter can still improve (old) world class players even further.
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Klopp doesn't acquire world class players though. His business is making world class players, not buying them. That's a big difference between the two.
Name me a few players that were world class at the time Klopp acquired them? I can't think of any.
Now name how many world class players have played under Klopp?
He made them all.
Boy From The South (U3979)
But just saying he's the best attacking fullback doesn't really contribute to the debate.. we probably all know that, don't we?!
Of course it works for Liverpool - although I would argue that perhaps not enough has been done to work on his defensive skillset and it's part of the problems the team have at present.
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
It's one aspect.
But just saying 'From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.' in response to the OP is irrelevant and suggests you haven't understood the question.
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Ok winston, or I'm making a point that perhaps, due to the importance of both defence and offence in that position that it's perhaps a more multi-faceted question than "who's the best"?
Who's the most well rounded, maybe, and TAA is not in that discussion.
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Fair enough... but that didn't really come across at all.
If you're challenging the OP on what the 'best fullback' looks like, then it's fair - obviously impossible to answer fully as it depends on all sorts of things.
For me though, it's a case of judging an all round game to the extent that the player could play for any top club and still be top quality.
I'm sure that applies to Trent as much as it does to others, because of his defensive frailties.
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Trent is in the conversation for "best" because of the impact he has on the side from an attacking perspective, which is vital in the modern game.
The upsides of having him in the team for Liverpool clearly outweigh the downsides (but I do buy in a little to the argument that his defensive frailties are in part due to the system we are currently 'attempting' to play).
I also prefer Cancelo tbh.
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Cancelo?!? A City the other day made an article complaining about Cancelo and calling him unreliable.
I swear, anything to avoid giving credit to a Chelsea player
Cancelo is probably the most complete full back in world football atm.
All fine players though.
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Cancelo is probably the most complete full back in world football atm.
All fine players though.
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what is included in complete robbing? I think james is stronger, better in the air, defending etc.
I also find it hard to judge city players as theyre all so facking good. I actually think city could lose KDB and still cruise the title, foden silva and even now grealish are so good
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
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Who's the best striker on the planet, from a defensive perspective?
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Trent plays in a team where he's a huge part of the attack that has made us so successful to this season.
If you can find me a team that plays their striker at centre back, GFI.
To answer your question directly, Firmino.
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So?
The discussion isn't about whether he's good for Liverpool, it's about the best full back in the world.
I don't care if he's the best going forward - that's not the discussion.
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Not like LIverpool fans to make a general discussion all about them
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Cancelo is probably the most complete full back in world football atm.
All fine players though.
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what is included in complete robbing? I think james is stronger, better in the air, defending etc.
I also find it hard to judge city players as theyre all so facking good. I actually think city could lose KDB and still cruise the title, foden silva and even now grealish are so good
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They won a title recently without KDB prominent for half of the season
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posted on 6/10/22
problem is you just pulled those stats out your ass
posted on 6/10/22
"However even when he is in position or one on one or has to defend, he's poor at it."
This.
Klopp tried to make out that all the criticism of TAA is because he's caught up the field.
Nonsense.
The CL final is a good example of TAA lacking defensive qualities and costing Liverpool dear.
It's an area of his game he surely should be looking to work on, although I also wonder if he's ever been tried in central midfield.
posted on 6/10/22
https://www.squawka.com/en/comparison-matrix/?compare=SZvcjAjMwZvfHigQFMOVm
Trent clear lol
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 9 minutes ago
problem is you just pulled those stats out your ass
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What? I don't think you grasped what I said
posted on 6/10/22
Top player is Reece. I'm not so sure he's as good in a back four but playing fullback is incredibly hard in the modern game.
Won't be long until the likes of Barca and Madrid come sniffing I reckon, he has a top all around game that would suit them.
posted on 6/10/22
tbf robbing hes also been playing RCB too, one of the errors i'll agree with the tuchel haters about.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
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Who's the best striker on the planet, from a defensive perspective?
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Trent plays in a team where he's a huge part of the attack that has made us so successful to this season.
If you can find me a team that plays their striker at centre back, GFI.
To answer your question directly, Firmino.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
"However even when he is in position or one on one or has to defend, he's poor at it."
This.
Klopp tried to make out that all the criticism of TAA is because he's caught up the field.
Nonsense.
The CL final is a good example of TAA lacking defensive qualities and costing Liverpool dear.
It's an area of his game he surely should be looking to work on, although I also wonder if he's ever been tried in central midfield.
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Love how Trent cost us dear, not the other 10 players on the field that couldn't facking score despite numerous opportunities.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
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Who's the best striker on the planet, from a defensive perspective?
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Trent plays in a team where he's a huge part of the attack that has made us so successful to this season.
If you can find me a team that plays their striker at centre back, GFI.
To answer your question directly, Firmino.
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So?
The discussion isn't about whether he's good for Liverpool, it's about the best full back in the world.
I don't care if he's the best going forward - that's not the discussion.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Lerradinho (U21557)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's up there, but for me Hakimi and Kimmich (not playing there as much anymore) are a bit better but they are also more experienced than James so he will catch up. I do think he's by far the best English FB as TAA has fallen off a cliff. He's just not been great offensively, while he's always been fragile defensively but so were Dani Alves and Maicon.
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Watch the french and German leagues a lot?
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Not as much lately, but Bundesliga is a favorite of mine next to the PL and is severely underestimated here due to some high profile flops. I do judge both of them mostly on CL and NT footie with higher pressure/stakes then at their lobsided clubs.
2 years ago I also believed that TAA was the best RB in the world and that he would just kick on and improve from there. For me that's a not often mentioned difference between Klopp and Guardiola. The latter can still improve (old) world class players even further. Plenty of examples who said so themselves like Robben, Lahm, KDB and Haaland this week in an interview with Gary Neville.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
"However even when he is in position or one on one or has to defend, he's poor at it."
This.
Klopp tried to make out that all the criticism of TAA is because he's caught up the field.
Nonsense.
The CL final is a good example of TAA lacking defensive qualities and costing Liverpool dear.
It's an area of his game he surely should be looking to work on, although I also wonder if he's ever been tried in central midfield.
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Love how Trent cost us dear, not the other 10 players on the field that couldn't facking score despite numerous opportunities.
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Are the two mutually exclusive?
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who's the best striker on the planet, from a defensive perspective?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trent plays in a team where he's a huge part of the attack that has made us so successful to this season.
If you can find me a team that plays their striker at centre back, GFI.
To answer your question directly, Firmino.
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So?
The discussion isn't about whether he's good for Liverpool, it's about the best full back in the world.
I don't care if he's the best going forward - that's not the discussion.
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So attacking prowess is no indicator of a good full back?
posted on 6/10/22
It's one aspect.
But just saying 'From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.' in response to the OP is irrelevant and suggests you haven't understood the question.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
It's one aspect.
But just saying 'From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.' in response to the OP is irrelevant and suggests you haven't understood the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok winston, or I'm making a point that perhaps, due to the importance of both defence and offence in that position that it's perhaps a more multi-faceted question than "who's the best"?
Who's the most well rounded, maybe, and TAA is not in that discussion.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
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Hard to quantify. Trent basically plays as a midfielder. I saw the other day a stat on MNF and he’s had something like double the crosses of the next highest so the actual goal conversion % is pretty low
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So when we talk about attack he is a midfielder, but when we talk about defence he is judged like any other fullback? He can't be up the pitch and back to defend for 90 minutes. We know that playing him in an advanced role creates a weakness in our defence but the trade off is that he is invaluable in attack. He would be a much better defender if he didn't have to play an advanced role.
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I rarely get on him about being caught out up field, its obviously a tactic and one that is as you mention, a trade off. However even when he is in position or one on one or has to defend, he's poor at it.
The guy is not a traditional full back because his positioning is completely different. But its hard to say hes the best attacking fullback in the world.
If someone crosses 100 times and creates 5 goals and someone else crosses 20 times and creates 4 goals, whats best.
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First off 5 goals is always better than 4 goals.
I don't think TAA does any worse than any other defender when in position and when the ball is in front of him. He is almost always running back and that's hard for any defender. His defending can also be judged to a slightly higher standard because of how brilliant he is in other areas of the pitch.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
It's one aspect.
But just saying 'From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.' in response to the OP is irrelevant and suggests you haven't understood the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok winston, or I'm making a point that perhaps, due to the importance of both defence and offence in that position that it's perhaps a more multi-faceted question than "who's the best"?
Who's the most well rounded, maybe, and TAA is not in that discussion.
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Fair enough... but that didn't really come across at all.
If you're challenging the OP on what the 'best fullback' looks like, then it's fair - obviously impossible to answer fully as it depends on all sorts of things.
For me though, it's a case of judging an all round game to the extent that the player could play for any top club and still be top quality.
I'm sure that applies to Trent as much as it does to others, because of his defensive frailties.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
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Who's the best striker on the planet, from a defensive perspective?
=≠==≠==
Firmino
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
It's one aspect.
But just saying 'From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.' in response to the OP is irrelevant and suggests you haven't understood the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok winston, or I'm making a point that perhaps, due to the importance of both defence and offence in that position that it's perhaps a more multi-faceted question than "who's the best"?
Who's the most well rounded, maybe, and TAA is not in that discussion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair enough... but that didn't really come across at all.
If you're challenging the OP on what the 'best fullback' looks like, then it's fair - obviously impossible to answer fully as it depends on all sorts of things.
For me though, it's a case of judging an all round game to the extent that the player could play for any top club and still be top quality.
I'm sure that applies to Trent as much as it does to others, because of his defensive frailties.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trent is in the conversation for "best" because of the impact he has on the side from an attacking perspective, which is vital in the modern game.
The upsides of having him in the team for Liverpool clearly outweigh the downsides (but I do buy in a little to the argument that his defensive frailties are in part due to the system we are currently 'attempting' to play).
I also prefer Cancelo tbh.
posted on 6/10/22
For me that's a not often mentioned difference between Klopp and Guardiola. The latter can still improve (old) world class players even further.
=====
Klopp doesn't acquire world class players though. His business is making world class players, not buying them. That's a big difference between the two.
Name me a few players that were world class at the time Klopp acquired them? I can't think of any.
Now name how many world class players have played under Klopp?
He made them all.
posted on 6/10/22
Boy From The South (U3979)
But just saying he's the best attacking fullback doesn't really contribute to the debate.. we probably all know that, don't we?!
Of course it works for Liverpool - although I would argue that perhaps not enough has been done to work on his defensive skillset and it's part of the problems the team have at present.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
It's one aspect.
But just saying 'From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.' in response to the OP is irrelevant and suggests you haven't understood the question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok winston, or I'm making a point that perhaps, due to the importance of both defence and offence in that position that it's perhaps a more multi-faceted question than "who's the best"?
Who's the most well rounded, maybe, and TAA is not in that discussion.
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Fair enough... but that didn't really come across at all.
If you're challenging the OP on what the 'best fullback' looks like, then it's fair - obviously impossible to answer fully as it depends on all sorts of things.
For me though, it's a case of judging an all round game to the extent that the player could play for any top club and still be top quality.
I'm sure that applies to Trent as much as it does to others, because of his defensive frailties.
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Trent is in the conversation for "best" because of the impact he has on the side from an attacking perspective, which is vital in the modern game.
The upsides of having him in the team for Liverpool clearly outweigh the downsides (but I do buy in a little to the argument that his defensive frailties are in part due to the system we are currently 'attempting' to play).
I also prefer Cancelo tbh.
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Cancelo?!? A City the other day made an article complaining about Cancelo and calling him unreliable.
I swear, anything to avoid giving credit to a Chelsea player
posted on 6/10/22
Cancelo is probably the most complete full back in world football atm.
All fine players though.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Cancelo is probably the most complete full back in world football atm.
All fine players though.
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what is included in complete robbing? I think james is stronger, better in the air, defending etc.
I also find it hard to judge city players as theyre all so facking good. I actually think city could lose KDB and still cruise the title, foden silva and even now grealish are so good
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
From an attacking perspective there is no better fullback on the planet than TAA.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who's the best striker on the planet, from a defensive perspective?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trent plays in a team where he's a huge part of the attack that has made us so successful to this season.
If you can find me a team that plays their striker at centre back, GFI.
To answer your question directly, Firmino.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So?
The discussion isn't about whether he's good for Liverpool, it's about the best full back in the world.
I don't care if he's the best going forward - that's not the discussion.
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Not like LIverpool fans to make a general discussion all about them
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Cancelo is probably the most complete full back in world football atm.
All fine players though.
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what is included in complete robbing? I think james is stronger, better in the air, defending etc.
I also find it hard to judge city players as theyre all so facking good. I actually think city could lose KDB and still cruise the title, foden silva and even now grealish are so good
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They won a title recently without KDB prominent for half of the season
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