comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 8 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Snooker_49 (U10665)
posted 9 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 10 minutes ago
Yes… but they’re not a super club (like Utd or Arsenal).

They haven’t won a triple crown title since before Bill Clinton was President
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What's a triple crown? What ever it is it sounds three times as much as spurs would win.
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Triple crown is generalltly used in Snooker. The 3 BBC tournaments are known as the triple crown. The World championship, UK championship and The Masters. I'm not personally a fan of the terminolgy but it is what it is. The football equivalent would be the premier league, Champions league and the FA cup.
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Naaah. World Cup, Champions League and Premier League. In that order.
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I was referring to the triple crown for UK clubs.

But the biggest titles overall would be; World Cup, Euros/Copa America and the PL title.

comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 8 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Snooker_49 (U10665)
posted 9 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 10 minutes ago
Yes… but they’re not a super club (like Utd or Arsenal).

They haven’t won a triple crown title since before Bill Clinton was President
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What's a triple crown? What ever it is it sounds three times as much as spurs would win.
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Triple crown is generalltly used in Snooker. The 3 BBC tournaments are known as the triple crown. The World championship, UK championship and The Masters. I'm not personally a fan of the terminolgy but it is what it is. The football equivalent would be the premier league, Champions league and the FA cup.
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Naaah. World Cup, Champions League and Premier League. In that order.
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I was referring to the triple crown for UK clubs.

But the biggest titles overall would be; World Cup, Euros/Copa America and the PL title.
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Whatever they are. Spurs don't win any of them.

comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 8 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Snooker_49 (U10665)
posted 9 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 10 minutes ago
Yes… but they’re not a super club (like Utd or Arsenal).

They haven’t won a triple crown title since before Bill Clinton was President
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What's a triple crown? What ever it is it sounds three times as much as spurs would win.
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Triple crown is generalltly used in Snooker. The 3 BBC tournaments are known as the triple crown. The World championship, UK championship and The Masters. I'm not personally a fan of the terminolgy but it is what it is. The football equivalent would be the premier league, Champions league and the FA cup.
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Naaah. World Cup, Champions League and Premier League. In that order.
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I was referring to the triple crown for UK clubs.

But the biggest titles overall would be; World Cup, Euros/Copa America and the PL title.
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Whatever they are. Spurs don't win any of them.
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True

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 12 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---throwing money around like confett... (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 43 minutes ago
Why do we keep doing this?

No they are not a big club, they are just the current Newcastle or Blackburn from previous decades, decent for a bit. Big clubs win things and big clubs have won more than two league titles in their history.
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Wolves have not won a big trophy, since I was a nipper.
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We don't go around pretending we are a big club

comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 13 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 8 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Snooker_49 (U10665)
posted 9 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 10 minutes ago
Yes… but they’re not a super club (like Utd or Arsenal).

They haven’t won a triple crown title since before Bill Clinton was President
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What's a triple crown? What ever it is it sounds three times as much as spurs would win.
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Triple crown is generalltly used in Snooker. The 3 BBC tournaments are known as the triple crown. The World championship, UK championship and The Masters. I'm not personally a fan of the terminolgy but it is what it is. The football equivalent would be the premier league, Champions league and the FA cup.
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Naaah. World Cup, Champions League and Premier League. In that order.
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I was referring to the triple crown for UK clubs.

But the biggest titles overall would be; World Cup, Euros/Copa America and the PL title.
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That's England centric. Globally, winning the CL is definitely more revered than winning the English league.

comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matte... (U1282)
posted 7 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 13 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 8 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Snooker_49 (U10665)
posted 9 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 10 minutes ago
Yes… but they’re not a super club (like Utd or Arsenal).

They haven’t won a triple crown title since before Bill Clinton was President
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What's a triple crown? What ever it is it sounds three times as much as spurs would win.
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Triple crown is generalltly used in Snooker. The 3 BBC tournaments are known as the triple crown. The World championship, UK championship and The Masters. I'm not personally a fan of the terminolgy but it is what it is. The football equivalent would be the premier league, Champions league and the FA cup.
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Naaah. World Cup, Champions League and Premier League. In that order.
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I was referring to the triple crown for UK clubs.

But the biggest titles overall would be; World Cup, Euros/Copa America and the PL title.
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That's England centric. Globally, winning the CL is definitely more revered than winning the English league.
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Spurs will never win either so it is a moot point

Ahhhh the old big club debate!!?

This will never be solved but I'm sure we can all agree that no club with an average gate of below 45k could ever be considered big regardless of their on field success.

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ahhhh the old big club debate!!?

This will never be solved but I'm sure we can all agree that no club with an average gate of below 45k could ever be considered big regardless of their on field success.
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Going by that criteria Spurs must have been miniscule in 2017 when they could only get 36,000 and worse still had 1940’s staunchions at the front of the shelf. 😂

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 hours, 10 minutes ago
Ahhhh the old big club debate!!?

This will never be solved but I'm sure we can all agree that no club with an average gate of below 45k could ever be considered big regardless of their on field success.
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So to clarify here you are saying people through the turnstiles trumps actually winning things?

If that is the case then you guys must be pretty embarrassed right?

A quick look tells me that a certain small club has won 14 major trophies since you last did in 2007-08 and 24 major trophies to your one dating back to the early 90s.


Embarrassed or just plain dumb, hmmmm.

comment by Cinciwolf---throwing money around like confetti (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 hours, 10 minutes ago
Ahhhh the old big club debate!!?

This will never be solved but I'm sure we can all agree that no club with an average gate of below 45k could ever be considered big regardless of their on field success.
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So to clarify here you are saying people through the turnstiles trumps actually winning things?

If that is the case then you guys must be pretty embarrassed right?

A quick look tells me that a certain small club has won 14 major trophies since you last did in 2007-08 and 24 major trophies to your one dating back to the early 90s.


Embarrassed or just plain dumb, hmmmm.
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Embarrassed myself haha, I had no idea that your definition of a big club was not to be challenged. Silly me!!?

Spurs win naff all yet regularly stick over 60k through the turnstiles and charge a ridiculous amount for the privilege.

It's easy to attract folk when you're winning but a combination of gallows humour and hope keeps Spurs fans turning up. This notion that if we won the League Cup/FA Cup we would suddenly be a big club is hilarious.

It never ceases to amaze me how important it is to some posters on here to portray Spurs as a smaller club than they are but hey ho if it means that much to you then knock yourself out.

comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯✯ (U1561)
posted 12 hours, 20 minutes ago

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ahhhh the old big club debate!!?

This will never be solved but I'm sure we can all agree that no club with an average gate of below 45k could ever be considered big regardless of their on field success.
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Going by that criteria Spurs must have been miniscule in 2017 when they could only get 36,000 and worse still had 1940’s staunchions at the front of the shelf. 😂
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It proves how futile the "big club" debate is, because fans will always champion what they have to brag about as being what's important

Where Spurs go it's a very silly debate indeed - of course they're a big club. They fill more than enough of most people's criteria to pass easily.

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯✯ (U1561)
posted 12 hours, 20 minutes ago

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 hours, 33 minutes ago
Ahhhh the old big club debate!!?

This will never be solved but I'm sure we can all agree that no club with an average gate of below 45k could ever be considered big regardless of their on field success.
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Going by that criteria Spurs must have been miniscule in 2017 when they could only get 36,000 and worse still had 1940’s staunchions at the front of the shelf. 😂
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It proves how futile the "big club" debate is, because fans will always champion what they have to brag about as being what's important

Where Spurs go it's a very silly debate indeed - of course they're a big club. They fill more than enough of most people's criteria to pass easily.
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I would agree with thar Devil. I’ve never said on here ever that they’re not a big Club but I won’t have any of theirs say that we’re not either because for the forseeable future they have got a bigger and better ground than us. We had a better ground than them after 2001. It’s all transient imo.

There's a reason they leap straight to the stadium thing when this comes up, because they have nothing else on us! We surpass them in pretty much every other metric you can use. The prime (close to parody) example of using what you have to brag about.

The whole notion of what a big club is doesn't really matter tbh. The history argument is the same. I could tell a Braintree fan they're irrelevant & they won't give two f*cks - they're relevant to them & probably couldn't care less about "big club" Chelsea

There's a reason they leap straight to the stadium thing when this comes up, because they have nothing else on us!

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Well that’s since 2003 when Chelsea’s fortunes changed

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 36 minutes ago
There's a reason they leap straight to the stadium thing when this comes up, because they have nothing else on us!

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Well that’s since 2003 when Chelsea’s fortunes changed
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To be fair Chelsea still won trophies in the late 90s. FA Cup in 1997, League Cup in 1998, UEFA cup winners cup in 1998 and FA cup in 2000.

So Newcastle are a big club then. Who knew.

Weird that Spurs were not a big club until they moved to their new stadium though. Strange way to measure stature of a club that.

comment by Cinciwolf---throwing money around like confetti (U11551)
posted 6 hours, 25 minutes ago
So Newcastle are a big club then. Who knew.

Weird that Spurs were not a big club until they moved to their new stadium though. Strange way to measure stature of a club that.
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Oh course Newcastle are a huge club!!

They haven't won anything for donkeys years yet they were getting 52k in the Championship. As I said earlier it's easy to turn up when you're winning it's when the chips are down we find out who the big boys are.

I assume from your user name you are a Wolves fan,? There's a few of your lot who get down my local for Wolves games and they are a good group of lads, they certainly don't blow smoke up Chelseas rathole like you do.

Most Spurs fans (myself included) loved WHL but it was holding us back and yes we couldn't consider ourselves a big club in a 36k stadium.

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Cinciwolf---throwing money around like confetti (U11551)
posted 6 hours, 25 minutes ago
So Newcastle are a big club then. Who knew.

Weird that Spurs were not a big club until they moved to their new stadium though. Strange way to measure stature of a club that.
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Oh course Newcastle are a huge club!!

They haven't won anything for donkeys years yet they were getting 52k in the Championship. As I said earlier it's easy to turn up when you're winning it's when the chips are down we find out who the big boys are.

I assume from your user name you are a Wolves fan,? There's a few of your lot who get down my local for Wolves games and they are a good group of lads, they certainly don't blow smoke up Chelseas rathole like you do.

Most Spurs fans (myself included) loved WHL but it was holding us back and yes we couldn't consider ourselves a big club in a 36k stadium.
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They aren't that huge. That was the message we kept getting before they sold their soul. But let's be honest, they are a big club, a middling PL sized club

But they aren't ad big as United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, City, Spurs, Everton or Villa. West Ham are of similar stature, as are Forest. Sheffield Wednesday? They're on a similar level.

Newcastle are only huge in Newcastle. They haven't won anything in god knows how long and have negligibly support outside of their own city. They're not a small club but not huge by any means either. They will obviously grow now that they're backed by the "non-Saudi controlled" group

Forgot Leeds, who are at least as big as Newcastle. Probably bigger. So no, I don't think they're a huge club no matter how often they tell us that's the case

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 11 hours, 22 minutes ago

There's a reason they leap straight to the stadium thing when this comes up, because they have nothing else on us!

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Well that’s since 2003 when Chelsea’s fortunes changed
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True but irrelevant, clubs evolve. Spurs weren't doing much until former player Arthur Rowe came up with a tactical concept called push & run, and current player under his management Bill Nicholson thought "I like this idea"

No club that's ever existed was created great or "big", it took at least one person (unusually several - which is also true of modern Chelsea) to give them an advantage over the competition for a significant period of time.