comment by Kingdom of Davids (U21957)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 14 hours, 52 minutes ago
Unlikely that the missile came from Russia apparently
https://apnews.com/article/g-20-summit-nato-biden-andrzej-duda-25e615909ba0d871d5092f5b3aec21c8
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Zelensky still trying to point the finger at Russia.
An US Army General just stated a full Ukrainian victory is highly unlikely and that Russia still has the combat power to continue a bombardment for as long as they see fit.
BBC won’t report this though.
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BBC are so biased in this conflict, I really don't know why.
Even in Iraq war they appeared to be neutral.
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I don't know if the BBC were ever non bias, I wasn't into politics back then so hard to tell, however journalism now isn't what it use to be.
The established news media and governments are heavily influenced by big corporations now, we shouldn't trust any of them.
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
I've noticed that BBC-bashers do tend to be among the stupidest and most tiresome people on the planet
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 20 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Anti Growth Coallition and Proud (U22716)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazils-lula-says-zelenskiy-as-responsible-putin-ukraine-war-2022-05-04/
Sigh, what a douche
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Why do you guys love war so much?
There's not much he said wrong here, the West should've done a lot more to negotiate peace, but they didn't want to, that's probably why Boris Johnson talked Zelensky from stopping the peace negotiations.
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Why do you want Ukraine to give part of their country, and people of course, to a country that invaded them.
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The history is complicated and I'm not even going to pretend I know it all.
This conflict didn't just start with Russia invading Ukraine, USA (as usual) exacerbated the issues with Russia and Ukraine.
At the end of the day, war should be avoided at all costs, if it was your family members that were forced to go to war I'm sure you would have a different view.
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Nope, any more than I would have had when Germany invaded England, any more than my parents did. I don't think they would have given Germany, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset for example?
And this war absolutely started with Russia invading Ukraine.
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 20 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Anti Growth Coallition and Proud (U22716)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazils-lula-says-zelenskiy-as-responsible-putin-ukraine-war-2022-05-04/
Sigh, what a douche
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Why do you guys love war so much?
There's not much he said wrong here, the West should've done a lot more to negotiate peace, but they didn't want to, that's probably why Boris Johnson talked Zelensky from stopping the peace negotiations.
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Why do you want Ukraine to give part of their country, and people of course, to a country that invaded them.
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The history is complicated and I'm not even going to pretend I know it all.
This conflict didn't just start with Russia invading Ukraine, USA (as usual) exacerbated the issues with Russia and Ukraine.
At the end of the day, war should be avoided at all costs, if it was your family members that were forced to go to war I'm sure you would have a different view.
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I have a Ukrainian neighbour who's parents are in Kyiv with no electricity and he and his parents want peace, but don't want to appease the invaders.
comment by Jalisco Red - Total Hagball (U4195)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
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YeAh, BuT yOu WoNt SeE tHe BbC rEpOrTiNg ThAt.
comment by Jalisco Red - Total Hagball (U4195)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
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Good to know the people on JA606 think they know better though, isn’t it?
comment by Prof Rosso Curtice - mapping SOTY polling trends in real time (U17054)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Total Hagball (U4195)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
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YeAh, BuT yOu WoNt SeE tHe BbC rEpOrTiNg ThAt.
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Only yesterday a few on this thread said a total Russian loss is exactly what should happen
Should is not the same as would or could.
Should is not the same as would or could, you are right.
But it's what we want, certainly in the UK. We need to keep backing them, because it is right to do so.
They are defending their country, and people, from a larger country who invaded them, purely because the president wanted to.
We, all of us, must make it plain to Putin, that he is wrong, and that he cannot win.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
Should is not the same as would or could, you are right.
But it's what we want, certainly in the UK. We need to keep backing them, because it is right to do so.
They are defending their country, and people, from a larger country who invaded them, purely because the president wanted to.
We, all of us, must make it plain to Putin, that he is wrong, and that he cannot win.
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Yeah, I know. As posted earlier I have one Ukrainian friend who's parents are freezing in the dark in Kyiv. They won't surrender any of their country. I also know quite a few who are descended from previous waves of immigration. One of those guys is back there driving an ambulance.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Total Hagball (U4195)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
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Good to know the people on JA606 think they know better though, isn’t it?
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Nobody thinks they know better. But they know what is right. Which is to defend themselves.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Total Hagball (U4195)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
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Good to know the people on JA606 think they know better though, isn’t it?
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Nobody thinks they know better. But they know what is right. Which is to defend themselves.
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I guess it depends on your perspective.
I Ukraine fight until breaking point, it will financially crush not only Ukraine and Russia but the rest of Europe, result more deaths than necessary, potentially escalate and result in years more suffering.
Maybe they will keep their land, join the EU and NATO, and Russia will have egg on their face being forced into a recluse from the rest of the world, but like that leading General said, it’s highly unlikely.
So, I like to be pragmatic, and consider the best solution available to end this ASAP. War breaks my heart, for reasons close to me, and I don’t see how this ends well for anybody.
It is the best way to end the war.
But, and it's a big but, agreeing to Russia keeping the country they currently occupy is one thing. But the people who live there don't want it.
So how can Zalensky give away millions of peoples lives, in a democracy.
As I said earlier, could the UK have given away, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset to the Germans for 'peace'.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
It is the best way to end the war.
But, and it's a big but, agreeing to Russia keeping the country they currently occupy is one thing. But the people who live there don't want it.
So how can Zalensky give away millions of peoples lives, in a democracy.
As I said earlier, could the UK have given away, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset to the Germans for 'peace'.
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You can't compare that to Ukraine and Russia, totally different. Germany and UK had nothing to do with each other, they didn't have the complicated history like those countries.
Who knows what the peace treaty involved, but reports said the two sides appeared to have made tenuous progress toward a settlement to end the war until Boris pressured Zelensky to ditch peace talks with Russia. Doing the peace talks earlier would've had less of Russia occupying Ukraine.
The war is not just affecting Ukraine but the majority of the world, I'm constantly getting ads on youtube about the global food crisis affecting places in Africa due to the war in Ukraine, we are on the verge of a global food shortage crisis (but not just because of Ukraine though)
US has given already around $54 billion, this war is likely to last years, how much more would be required and is it sustainable?
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
It is the best way to end the war.
But, and it's a big but, agreeing to Russia keeping the country they currently occupy is one thing. But the people who live there don't want it.
So how can Zalensky give away millions of peoples lives, in a democracy.
As I said earlier, could the UK have given away, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset to the Germans for 'peace'.
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You can't compare that to Ukraine and Russia, totally different. Germany and UK had nothing to do with each other, they didn't have the complicated history like those countries.
Who knows what the peace treaty involved, but reports said the two sides appeared to have made tenuous progress toward a settlement to end the war until Boris pressured Zelensky to ditch peace talks with Russia. Doing the peace talks earlier would've had less of Russia occupying Ukraine.
The war is not just affecting Ukraine but the majority of the world, I'm constantly getting ads on youtube about the global food crisis affecting places in Africa due to the war in Ukraine, we are on the verge of a global food shortage crisis (but not just because of Ukraine though)
US has given already around $54 billion, this war is likely to last years, how much more would be required and is it sustainable?
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I can and did compare them. It's valid.
Everyone knows the cost of war, but what about the cost of peace. What solution are you suggesting, and will it involve millions of people living in a dictatorship?
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
It is the best way to end the war.
But, and it's a big but, agreeing to Russia keeping the country they currently occupy is one thing. But the people who live there don't want it.
So how can Zalensky give away millions of peoples lives, in a democracy.
As I said earlier, could the UK have given away, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset to the Germans for 'peace'.
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You can't compare that to Ukraine and Russia, totally different. Germany and UK had nothing to do with each other, they didn't have the complicated history like those countries.
Who knows what the peace treaty involved, but reports said the two sides appeared to have made tenuous progress toward a settlement to end the war until Boris pressured Zelensky to ditch peace talks with Russia. Doing the peace talks earlier would've had less of Russia occupying Ukraine.
The war is not just affecting Ukraine but the majority of the world, I'm constantly getting ads on youtube about the global food crisis affecting places in Africa due to the war in Ukraine, we are on the verge of a global food shortage crisis (but not just because of Ukraine though)
US has given already around $54 billion, this war is likely to last years, how much more would be required and is it sustainable?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can and did compare them. It's valid.
Everyone knows the cost of war, but what about the cost of peace. What solution are you suggesting, and will it involve millions of people living in a dictatorship?
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Your second paragraph is almost certainly untrue.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
It is the best way to end the war.
But, and it's a big but, agreeing to Russia keeping the country they currently occupy is one thing. But the people who live there don't want it.
So how can Zalensky give away millions of peoples lives, in a democracy.
As I said earlier, could the UK have given away, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset to the Germans for 'peace'.
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You can't compare that to Ukraine and Russia, totally different. Germany and UK had nothing to do with each other, they didn't have the complicated history like those countries.
Who knows what the peace treaty involved, but reports said the two sides appeared to have made tenuous progress toward a settlement to end the war until Boris pressured Zelensky to ditch peace talks with Russia. Doing the peace talks earlier would've had less of Russia occupying Ukraine.
The war is not just affecting Ukraine but the majority of the world, I'm constantly getting ads on youtube about the global food crisis affecting places in Africa due to the war in Ukraine, we are on the verge of a global food shortage crisis (but not just because of Ukraine though)
US has given already around $54 billion, this war is likely to last years, how much more would be required and is it sustainable?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can and did compare them. It's valid.
Everyone knows the cost of war, but what about the cost of peace. What solution are you suggesting, and will it involve millions of people living in a dictatorship?
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Your second paragraph is almost certainly untrue.
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If Russia can afford it then the USA and EU certainly can.
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posted on 17/11/22
comment by Kingdom of Davids (U21957)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 14 hours, 52 minutes ago
Unlikely that the missile came from Russia apparently
https://apnews.com/article/g-20-summit-nato-biden-andrzej-duda-25e615909ba0d871d5092f5b3aec21c8
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Zelensky still trying to point the finger at Russia.
An US Army General just stated a full Ukrainian victory is highly unlikely and that Russia still has the combat power to continue a bombardment for as long as they see fit.
BBC won’t report this though.
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BBC are so biased in this conflict, I really don't know why.
Even in Iraq war they appeared to be neutral.
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I don't know if the BBC were ever non bias, I wasn't into politics back then so hard to tell, however journalism now isn't what it use to be.
The established news media and governments are heavily influenced by big corporations now, we shouldn't trust any of them.
posted on 17/11/22
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
posted on 17/11/22
I've noticed that BBC-bashers do tend to be among the stupidest and most tiresome people on the planet
posted on 17/11/22
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 20 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Anti Growth Coallition and Proud (U22716)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazils-lula-says-zelenskiy-as-responsible-putin-ukraine-war-2022-05-04/
Sigh, what a douche
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Why do you guys love war so much?
There's not much he said wrong here, the West should've done a lot more to negotiate peace, but they didn't want to, that's probably why Boris Johnson talked Zelensky from stopping the peace negotiations.
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Why do you want Ukraine to give part of their country, and people of course, to a country that invaded them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The history is complicated and I'm not even going to pretend I know it all.
This conflict didn't just start with Russia invading Ukraine, USA (as usual) exacerbated the issues with Russia and Ukraine.
At the end of the day, war should be avoided at all costs, if it was your family members that were forced to go to war I'm sure you would have a different view.
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Nope, any more than I would have had when Germany invaded England, any more than my parents did. I don't think they would have given Germany, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset for example?
And this war absolutely started with Russia invading Ukraine.
posted on 17/11/22
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 20 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Anti Growth Coallition and Proud (U22716)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazils-lula-says-zelenskiy-as-responsible-putin-ukraine-war-2022-05-04/
Sigh, what a douche
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Why do you guys love war so much?
There's not much he said wrong here, the West should've done a lot more to negotiate peace, but they didn't want to, that's probably why Boris Johnson talked Zelensky from stopping the peace negotiations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why do you want Ukraine to give part of their country, and people of course, to a country that invaded them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The history is complicated and I'm not even going to pretend I know it all.
This conflict didn't just start with Russia invading Ukraine, USA (as usual) exacerbated the issues with Russia and Ukraine.
At the end of the day, war should be avoided at all costs, if it was your family members that were forced to go to war I'm sure you would have a different view.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have a Ukrainian neighbour who's parents are in Kyiv with no electricity and he and his parents want peace, but don't want to appease the invaders.
posted on 17/11/22
comment by Jalisco Red - Total Hagball (U4195)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
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YeAh, BuT yOu WoNt SeE tHe BbC rEpOrTiNg ThAt.
posted on 17/11/22
comment by Jalisco Red - Total Hagball (U4195)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
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Good to know the people on JA606 think they know better though, isn’t it?
posted on 17/11/22
comment by Prof Rosso Curtice - mapping SOTY polling trends in real time (U17054)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Total Hagball (U4195)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
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YeAh, BuT yOu WoNt SeE tHe BbC rEpOrTiNg ThAt.
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Only yesterday a few on this thread said a total Russian loss is exactly what should happen
posted on 17/11/22
Should is not the same as would or could.
posted on 17/11/22
Should is not the same as would or could, you are right.
But it's what we want, certainly in the UK. We need to keep backing them, because it is right to do so.
They are defending their country, and people, from a larger country who invaded them, purely because the president wanted to.
We, all of us, must make it plain to Putin, that he is wrong, and that he cannot win.
posted on 17/11/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
Should is not the same as would or could, you are right.
But it's what we want, certainly in the UK. We need to keep backing them, because it is right to do so.
They are defending their country, and people, from a larger country who invaded them, purely because the president wanted to.
We, all of us, must make it plain to Putin, that he is wrong, and that he cannot win.
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Yeah, I know. As posted earlier I have one Ukrainian friend who's parents are freezing in the dark in Kyiv. They won't surrender any of their country. I also know quite a few who are descended from previous waves of immigration. One of those guys is back there driving an ambulance.
posted on 17/11/22
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Total Hagball (U4195)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
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Good to know the people on JA606 think they know better though, isn’t it?
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Nobody thinks they know better. But they know what is right. Which is to defend themselves.
posted on 17/11/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Total Hagball (U4195)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
"America's top general has warned that Kyiv's chances in the short term of winning the war by taking back all Russian-occupied land are 'not high, militarily'."
From BBC News
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Good to know the people on JA606 think they know better though, isn’t it?
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Nobody thinks they know better. But they know what is right. Which is to defend themselves.
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I guess it depends on your perspective.
I Ukraine fight until breaking point, it will financially crush not only Ukraine and Russia but the rest of Europe, result more deaths than necessary, potentially escalate and result in years more suffering.
Maybe they will keep their land, join the EU and NATO, and Russia will have egg on their face being forced into a recluse from the rest of the world, but like that leading General said, it’s highly unlikely.
So, I like to be pragmatic, and consider the best solution available to end this ASAP. War breaks my heart, for reasons close to me, and I don’t see how this ends well for anybody.
posted on 17/11/22
It is the best way to end the war.
But, and it's a big but, agreeing to Russia keeping the country they currently occupy is one thing. But the people who live there don't want it.
So how can Zalensky give away millions of peoples lives, in a democracy.
As I said earlier, could the UK have given away, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset to the Germans for 'peace'.
posted on 17/11/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
It is the best way to end the war.
But, and it's a big but, agreeing to Russia keeping the country they currently occupy is one thing. But the people who live there don't want it.
So how can Zalensky give away millions of peoples lives, in a democracy.
As I said earlier, could the UK have given away, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset to the Germans for 'peace'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can't compare that to Ukraine and Russia, totally different. Germany and UK had nothing to do with each other, they didn't have the complicated history like those countries.
Who knows what the peace treaty involved, but reports said the two sides appeared to have made tenuous progress toward a settlement to end the war until Boris pressured Zelensky to ditch peace talks with Russia. Doing the peace talks earlier would've had less of Russia occupying Ukraine.
The war is not just affecting Ukraine but the majority of the world, I'm constantly getting ads on youtube about the global food crisis affecting places in Africa due to the war in Ukraine, we are on the verge of a global food shortage crisis (but not just because of Ukraine though)
US has given already around $54 billion, this war is likely to last years, how much more would be required and is it sustainable?
posted on 17/11/22
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
It is the best way to end the war.
But, and it's a big but, agreeing to Russia keeping the country they currently occupy is one thing. But the people who live there don't want it.
So how can Zalensky give away millions of peoples lives, in a democracy.
As I said earlier, could the UK have given away, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset to the Germans for 'peace'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can't compare that to Ukraine and Russia, totally different. Germany and UK had nothing to do with each other, they didn't have the complicated history like those countries.
Who knows what the peace treaty involved, but reports said the two sides appeared to have made tenuous progress toward a settlement to end the war until Boris pressured Zelensky to ditch peace talks with Russia. Doing the peace talks earlier would've had less of Russia occupying Ukraine.
The war is not just affecting Ukraine but the majority of the world, I'm constantly getting ads on youtube about the global food crisis affecting places in Africa due to the war in Ukraine, we are on the verge of a global food shortage crisis (but not just because of Ukraine though)
US has given already around $54 billion, this war is likely to last years, how much more would be required and is it sustainable?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can and did compare them. It's valid.
Everyone knows the cost of war, but what about the cost of peace. What solution are you suggesting, and will it involve millions of people living in a dictatorship?
posted on 17/11/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
It is the best way to end the war.
But, and it's a big but, agreeing to Russia keeping the country they currently occupy is one thing. But the people who live there don't want it.
So how can Zalensky give away millions of peoples lives, in a democracy.
As I said earlier, could the UK have given away, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset to the Germans for 'peace'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can't compare that to Ukraine and Russia, totally different. Germany and UK had nothing to do with each other, they didn't have the complicated history like those countries.
Who knows what the peace treaty involved, but reports said the two sides appeared to have made tenuous progress toward a settlement to end the war until Boris pressured Zelensky to ditch peace talks with Russia. Doing the peace talks earlier would've had less of Russia occupying Ukraine.
The war is not just affecting Ukraine but the majority of the world, I'm constantly getting ads on youtube about the global food crisis affecting places in Africa due to the war in Ukraine, we are on the verge of a global food shortage crisis (but not just because of Ukraine though)
US has given already around $54 billion, this war is likely to last years, how much more would be required and is it sustainable?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can and did compare them. It's valid.
Everyone knows the cost of war, but what about the cost of peace. What solution are you suggesting, and will it involve millions of people living in a dictatorship?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your second paragraph is almost certainly untrue.
posted on 17/11/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
It is the best way to end the war.
But, and it's a big but, agreeing to Russia keeping the country they currently occupy is one thing. But the people who live there don't want it.
So how can Zalensky give away millions of peoples lives, in a democracy.
As I said earlier, could the UK have given away, Cornwall, Devon and Dorset to the Germans for 'peace'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can't compare that to Ukraine and Russia, totally different. Germany and UK had nothing to do with each other, they didn't have the complicated history like those countries.
Who knows what the peace treaty involved, but reports said the two sides appeared to have made tenuous progress toward a settlement to end the war until Boris pressured Zelensky to ditch peace talks with Russia. Doing the peace talks earlier would've had less of Russia occupying Ukraine.
The war is not just affecting Ukraine but the majority of the world, I'm constantly getting ads on youtube about the global food crisis affecting places in Africa due to the war in Ukraine, we are on the verge of a global food shortage crisis (but not just because of Ukraine though)
US has given already around $54 billion, this war is likely to last years, how much more would be required and is it sustainable?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can and did compare them. It's valid.
Everyone knows the cost of war, but what about the cost of peace. What solution are you suggesting, and will it involve millions of people living in a dictatorship?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your second paragraph is almost certainly untrue.
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If Russia can afford it then the USA and EU certainly can.
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