I wouldn't spend a penny on crazy players,so Newcastle have got it right there
While Howe has vastly improved Newcastle, he has spent £200m so far
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 2 minutes ago
While Howe has vastly improved Newcastle, he has spent £200m so far
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But he has also improved a lot of bang average players
You don’t need to play with an attacking mid to have creative players. The Spurs squad is pretty workman like.
Yep, whilst fundamentally there is a lack of ambition at the top, we have a squad capable of producing better displays. I think both Jose and Conte have been backed way more that Poch was, when measuring year upon year rather than total sums. He assembled a squad on a budget that garnered 86 points and a second place finish and a CL final amongst other achievements. So for Conte to say 5th, 6th and 7th is all we can achieve and 4th was ‘a miracle’ he’s talking utter bolllllocks. Poch managed to get us in the top four for four successive years. That’s some miracle.
Sick of his lies. Newcastle is the perfect example of coaching a squad to be greater than the sun of their parts. Look what he’s done to Almiron. Joelinton changes from terrible striker to brilliant midfielder. Howe has the same magic touch Poch had and both manage relative success playing great football.
I want rid of the guy. I’m honestly half hoping for an absolute mauling by Palace on Wednesday.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep, whilst fundamentally there is a lack of ambition at the top, we have a squad capable of producing better displays. I think both Jose and Conte have been backed way more that Poch was, when measuring year upon year rather than total sums. He assembled a squad on a budget that garnered 86 points and a second place finish and a CL final amongst other achievements. So for Conte to say 5th, 6th and 7th is all we can achieve and 4th was ‘a miracle’ he’s talking utter bolllllocks. Poch managed to get us in the top four for four successive years. That’s some miracle.
Sick of his lies. Newcastle is the perfect example of coaching a squad to be greater than the sun of their parts. Look what he’s done to Almiron. Joelinton changes from terrible striker to brilliant midfielder. Howe has the same magic touch Poch had and both manage relative success playing great football.
I want rid of the guy. I’m honestly half hoping for an absolute mauling by Palace on Wednesday.
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If you know there is a lack of ambition at the top then changing the manager every 6 months or a year is not going to fix anything if the new man has the same dross of players.
The squad needs new faces in defence and new keeper.
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
While Howe has vastly improved Newcastle, he has spent £200m so far
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And even still they should be nowhere near top four. The average players have upped their game as they know they can easily be replaced.
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep, whilst fundamentally there is a lack of ambition at the top, we have a squad capable of producing better displays. I think both Jose and Conte have been backed way more that Poch was, when measuring year upon year rather than total sums. He assembled a squad on a budget that garnered 86 points and a second place finish and a CL final amongst other achievements. So for Conte to say 5th, 6th and 7th is all we can achieve and 4th was ‘a miracle’ he’s talking utter bolllllocks. Poch managed to get us in the top four for four successive years. That’s some miracle.
Sick of his lies. Newcastle is the perfect example of coaching a squad to be greater than the sun of their parts. Look what he’s done to Almiron. Joelinton changes from terrible striker to brilliant midfielder. Howe has the same magic touch Poch had and both manage relative success playing great football.
I want rid of the guy. I’m honestly half hoping for an absolute mauling by Palace on Wednesday.
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If you know there is a lack of ambition at the top then changing the manager every 6 months or a year is not going to fix anything if the new man has the same dross of players.
The squad needs new faces in defence and new keeper.
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Not true. There is a lack of ambition at the top but there’s also absolutely no sign of them selling up so what’s the answer? Get someone in that CAN work under those conditions. Poch can. Howe can. Potter can. There are plenty of managers that can work under a tight budget and develop young players and Conte is not one of them. He has his skill set, obviously, but it doesn’t marry up with the requirements necessary at Spurs.
You have to admire the fact he indirectly challenges the owners publicly. It's better than having some yes man puppet manager.
None of managers you mention would get a tune out of Sanchez, Davies, Dier, Son or Lloris in the long term and that is what they would have to deal with it.
We will be better when Bentancur, Kulu and Rico are back. Add at least one new CB and you never know.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
While Howe has vastly improved Newcastle, he has spent £200m so far
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And even still they should be nowhere near top four. The average players have upped their game as they know they can easily be replaced.
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I mentioned this the other day on another thread, under Ashley competition for places was barely a thing, hence players performing in their comfort zone
https://twitter.com/Daily_Hotspur/status/1609667795934912512?t=H6CS0WT2IYtiLiwbVqaDRQ&s=19
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comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 27 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/Daily_Hotspur/status/1609667795934912512?t=H6CS0WT2IYtiLiwbVqaDRQ&s=19
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Saw that earlier. The two aren’t mutually exclusive though. You can take issue with the ownership AND also believe the manager in place is also unsuitable for a variety of reasons. Defensive, passive football is just unworkable these days. The modern game is about defending from the front rather than sitting in a low block. That’s why Jose is now a dinosaur and Pep is still riding high. Even if we were winning and in the top four I’d take issue with Conte’s style. I just can’t deal with not having a go and sitting off all the time. It’s so negative.
Individual mistakes from the usual suspects have cost us goals in the last three games.
Today, Captain Idiot Hugo. Brentford, Dier kicking it out for a corner.
Leeds before the break, Dier doesn't even put a challenge on Summerville for Leeds' first but we end up winning anyway so no drama.
It's the players mate. The same ones who got Poch, Jose and Nuno the sack.
TBF to Conte, it was a very good achievement to get us top 4 last season when you consider he did with the same defence.
Newcastle are the perfect example of Ambition flowing from the top down. Everyone connected with Newcastle knows that the owners are not going to faff about, they are in it to win it - this transcends to the players as they know if they don’t perform they will be replaced.
What message do the Spurs board send by letting proven failures like Davies, Dier, Doherty, Royal, Sanchez continue to pick up a wage rather than spending the money it will take to replace them?
A fish rots from the head and a football club rots from the board.
Either back Conte with money or get rid and get a project manager to show the fans we have no real ambition to win anything. This half and half approach only works for Levy - it convinces some fans that we are ambitious and some others that the manager isn’t the problem.
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 12 minutes ago
Newcastle are the perfect example of Ambition flowing from the top down. Everyone connected with Newcastle knows that the owners are not going to faff about, they are in it to win it - this transcends to the players as they know if they don’t perform they will be replaced.
What message do the Spurs board send by letting proven failures like Davies, Dier, Doherty, Royal, Sanchez continue to pick up a wage rather than spending the money it will take to replace them?
A fish rots from the head and a football club rots from the board.
Either back Conte with money or get rid and get a project manager to show the fans we have no real ambition to win anything. This half and half approach only works for Levy - it convinces some fans that we are ambitious and some others that the manager isn’t the problem.
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I don’t subscribe to that way of thinking. There seems to be a perception that the project manager approach will see us never win anything. That’s absurd. Of course we will. We’ve tried Jose and Conte now and the closest we’ve got to winning something was under Poch, the project man. Once you make a final it’s generally luck that you need at that point. We’ve been in finals but not really had the rub of the green plus each time we do make a final, we’re playing better teams so the odds shorten. Then there’s the league. 86 points in many seasons gone by would have won us the league. That’s the point. The closest we got to winning WAS with the project man over the serial winner so I’ll never understand why everyone seems to think going that way lacks ambition.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 12 minutes ago
Newcastle are the perfect example of Ambition flowing from the top down. Everyone connected with Newcastle knows that the owners are not going to faff about, they are in it to win it - this transcends to the players as they know if they don’t perform they will be replaced.
What message do the Spurs board send by letting proven failures like Davies, Dier, Doherty, Royal, Sanchez continue to pick up a wage rather than spending the money it will take to replace them?
A fish rots from the head and a football club rots from the board.
Either back Conte with money or get rid and get a project manager to show the fans we have no real ambition to win anything. This half and half approach only works for Levy - it convinces some fans that we are ambitious and some others that the manager isn’t the problem.
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I don’t subscribe to that way of thinking. There seems to be a perception that the project manager approach will see us never win anything. That’s absurd. Of course we will. We’ve tried Jose and Conte now and the closest we’ve got to winning something was under Poch, the project man. Once you make a final it’s generally luck that you need at that point. We’ve been in finals but not really had the rub of the green plus each time we do make a final, we’re playing better teams so the odds shorten. Then there’s the league. 86 points in many seasons gone by would have won us the league. That’s the point. The closest we got to winning WAS with the project man over the serial winner so I’ll never understand why everyone seems to think going that way lacks ambition.
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First off, Jose was not allowed to play the final against City - even though we had beaten them a few times under him. Instead his baldness felt Ryan Mason would be a better fit.
Secondly, we got incredibly lucky with Poch - what other project manager has got close to do what Poch did with Spurs? City and Liverpool went with proven managers, Chelsea change manager more times than Levy changes his underwear.
Which Leaves Arsenal - they look good at the moment, but I still suspect City will reel them in - so 1 FA cup.
United tried it with Ole, made a couple of finals, but haven’t won anything since Jose.
All a project manager does is allow Levy to hit the snooze button - the manager will be talking about how it’s a process and it takes time to build blah blah blah. Levy will milk the fans for 5th/6th place finishes and no trophies whilst Newcastle keep spending big and land their first title in 80 years, Chelsea sack Potter and get a winner in, Liverpool rediscover their mojo and City win at least 1 trophy each season.
Lightening won’t strike twice for Spurs, we have the infrastructure to really compete but our board lack the appetite and ambition.
But don’t worry, I think Levy can see we have enough gullible fans to make the “project manager” angle work so you will get your wish and five years from now we can argue about this again - trophyless
The other thing about project Poch was that it relied on us fluking a generational talent at the same time - we won’t produce another player of Kanes calibre for 50 years.
So new project will start with us replacing Kane and potentially Son who is starting to look post peak.
Good luck new project manager, your budget will be £20m, whatever you can raise from Doherty, Royal, Sanchez, Winks, Rodon - and the proceeds from the half time raffles.
Fluking or developing a talent? The other assumption is that Poch inherited a brilliant team. He didn’t. He constructed it. There’s a difference. I don’t remember Eriksen, Dembele, Rose and Walker amongst others, pulling up any trees until Poch arrived. If that was a brilliant team, it was down to him and his coaching.
Fans should quit comparing us to other teams. No way Howe is playing with the intensity off the ball with out lot which is one of the key factors of why they are doing so well. We last did that under Poch but he had to bin the press when our better players left and we struggled to keep the ball. We just don't have the players.
Just like the same fans clamouring for Potter not so long ago.. Wasn't our fans decrying us for also not getting Tuchel??..If Potter is struggling with that Chelsea squad, heavens knows what he would be doing with our lot.. Faack me...Ja606 would be in meltdown with the same fans who have been crying for his signature wanting him out.
You have to give a manager time to build a team not bring in a 4th manager in under 4 years..
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
Fluking or developing a talent? The other assumption is that Poch inherited a brilliant team. He didn’t. He constructed it. There’s a difference. I don’t remember Eriksen, Dembele, Rose and Walker amongst others, pulling up any trees until Poch arrived. If that was a brilliant team, it was down to him and his coaching.
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Kane developed Kane, those level of players get there no matter what.
You won’t get a second Kane, not for 50 years if we’re lucky and Poch won’t look have as good with a striker with less than half of Kanes talent - which is all Levy will fork out for.
Did Poch develop those other guys - yes he did - but the hundreds of goals Kane has scored for us took us up the levels.
The other thing is, Poch never seemed to be able to develop the likes of N’jie, N’koudou, Janssen, Soldado, Chadli, Stambouli, Fazio - so is there any guarantee he can develop the players we have?
comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 7 minutes ago
Fans should quit comparing us to other teams. No way Howe is playing with the intensity off the ball with out lot which is one of the key factors of why they are doing so well. We last did that under Poch but he had to bin the press when our better players left and we struggled to keep the ball. We just don't have the players.
Just like the same fans clamouring for Potter not so long ago.. Wasn't our fans decrying us for also not getting Tuchel??..If Potter is struggling with that Chelsea squad, heavens knows what he would be doing with our lot.. Faack me...Ja606 would be in meltdown with the same fans who have been crying for his signature wanting him out.
You have to give a manager time to build a team not bring in a 4th manager in under 4 years..
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It’s hilarious, the same fans who want a 4/5 year project failure won’t give Conte a second full season despite already getting us back into the CL.
What this really comes down to is style, we have a section of support a bit like West Ham’s who don’t care if we win anything as long as we play the Tottenham (West Ham) way. Some probably cling to the days where we used to lose 5-4 or 4-3 after being 3-0 up at half time
The issue is, Conte won't stay longer than 2 or 3 seasons.
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 7 minutes ago
The issue is, Conte won't stay longer than 2 or 3 seasons.
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3 seasons = 6 windows. Not bad and enough time to buid a proper side. As long as we live up to his expectations then he will stay. If he not he goes. Thats fair.
I don’t get this rhetoric about living up to his expectations and worrying about him walking? As if to say he isn’t playing dinosaur FOSSIL football. Lucky if he don’t get sacked.
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posted on 1/1/23
I wouldn't spend a penny on crazy players,so Newcastle have got it right there
posted on 1/1/23
While Howe has vastly improved Newcastle, he has spent £200m so far
posted on 1/1/23
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 2 minutes ago
While Howe has vastly improved Newcastle, he has spent £200m so far
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But he has also improved a lot of bang average players
posted on 1/1/23
True
posted on 1/1/23
You don’t need to play with an attacking mid to have creative players. The Spurs squad is pretty workman like.
posted on 1/1/23
Yep, whilst fundamentally there is a lack of ambition at the top, we have a squad capable of producing better displays. I think both Jose and Conte have been backed way more that Poch was, when measuring year upon year rather than total sums. He assembled a squad on a budget that garnered 86 points and a second place finish and a CL final amongst other achievements. So for Conte to say 5th, 6th and 7th is all we can achieve and 4th was ‘a miracle’ he’s talking utter bolllllocks. Poch managed to get us in the top four for four successive years. That’s some miracle.
Sick of his lies. Newcastle is the perfect example of coaching a squad to be greater than the sun of their parts. Look what he’s done to Almiron. Joelinton changes from terrible striker to brilliant midfielder. Howe has the same magic touch Poch had and both manage relative success playing great football.
I want rid of the guy. I’m honestly half hoping for an absolute mauling by Palace on Wednesday.
posted on 1/1/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep, whilst fundamentally there is a lack of ambition at the top, we have a squad capable of producing better displays. I think both Jose and Conte have been backed way more that Poch was, when measuring year upon year rather than total sums. He assembled a squad on a budget that garnered 86 points and a second place finish and a CL final amongst other achievements. So for Conte to say 5th, 6th and 7th is all we can achieve and 4th was ‘a miracle’ he’s talking utter bolllllocks. Poch managed to get us in the top four for four successive years. That’s some miracle.
Sick of his lies. Newcastle is the perfect example of coaching a squad to be greater than the sun of their parts. Look what he’s done to Almiron. Joelinton changes from terrible striker to brilliant midfielder. Howe has the same magic touch Poch had and both manage relative success playing great football.
I want rid of the guy. I’m honestly half hoping for an absolute mauling by Palace on Wednesday.
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If you know there is a lack of ambition at the top then changing the manager every 6 months or a year is not going to fix anything if the new man has the same dross of players.
The squad needs new faces in defence and new keeper.
posted on 1/1/23
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
While Howe has vastly improved Newcastle, he has spent £200m so far
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And even still they should be nowhere near top four. The average players have upped their game as they know they can easily be replaced.
posted on 1/1/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep, whilst fundamentally there is a lack of ambition at the top, we have a squad capable of producing better displays. I think both Jose and Conte have been backed way more that Poch was, when measuring year upon year rather than total sums. He assembled a squad on a budget that garnered 86 points and a second place finish and a CL final amongst other achievements. So for Conte to say 5th, 6th and 7th is all we can achieve and 4th was ‘a miracle’ he’s talking utter bolllllocks. Poch managed to get us in the top four for four successive years. That’s some miracle.
Sick of his lies. Newcastle is the perfect example of coaching a squad to be greater than the sun of their parts. Look what he’s done to Almiron. Joelinton changes from terrible striker to brilliant midfielder. Howe has the same magic touch Poch had and both manage relative success playing great football.
I want rid of the guy. I’m honestly half hoping for an absolute mauling by Palace on Wednesday.
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If you know there is a lack of ambition at the top then changing the manager every 6 months or a year is not going to fix anything if the new man has the same dross of players.
The squad needs new faces in defence and new keeper.
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Not true. There is a lack of ambition at the top but there’s also absolutely no sign of them selling up so what’s the answer? Get someone in that CAN work under those conditions. Poch can. Howe can. Potter can. There are plenty of managers that can work under a tight budget and develop young players and Conte is not one of them. He has his skill set, obviously, but it doesn’t marry up with the requirements necessary at Spurs.
posted on 1/1/23
You have to admire the fact he indirectly challenges the owners publicly. It's better than having some yes man puppet manager.
None of managers you mention would get a tune out of Sanchez, Davies, Dier, Son or Lloris in the long term and that is what they would have to deal with it.
We will be better when Bentancur, Kulu and Rico are back. Add at least one new CB and you never know.
posted on 1/1/23
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
While Howe has vastly improved Newcastle, he has spent £200m so far
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And even still they should be nowhere near top four. The average players have upped their game as they know they can easily be replaced.
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I mentioned this the other day on another thread, under Ashley competition for places was barely a thing, hence players performing in their comfort zone
posted on 1/1/23
https://twitter.com/Daily_Hotspur/status/1609667795934912512?t=H6CS0WT2IYtiLiwbVqaDRQ&s=19
👀
posted on 1/1/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 27 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/Daily_Hotspur/status/1609667795934912512?t=H6CS0WT2IYtiLiwbVqaDRQ&s=19
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Saw that earlier. The two aren’t mutually exclusive though. You can take issue with the ownership AND also believe the manager in place is also unsuitable for a variety of reasons. Defensive, passive football is just unworkable these days. The modern game is about defending from the front rather than sitting in a low block. That’s why Jose is now a dinosaur and Pep is still riding high. Even if we were winning and in the top four I’d take issue with Conte’s style. I just can’t deal with not having a go and sitting off all the time. It’s so negative.
posted on 1/1/23
Individual mistakes from the usual suspects have cost us goals in the last three games.
Today, Captain Idiot Hugo. Brentford, Dier kicking it out for a corner.
Leeds before the break, Dier doesn't even put a challenge on Summerville for Leeds' first but we end up winning anyway so no drama.
It's the players mate. The same ones who got Poch, Jose and Nuno the sack.
TBF to Conte, it was a very good achievement to get us top 4 last season when you consider he did with the same defence.
posted on 1/1/23
Newcastle are the perfect example of Ambition flowing from the top down. Everyone connected with Newcastle knows that the owners are not going to faff about, they are in it to win it - this transcends to the players as they know if they don’t perform they will be replaced.
What message do the Spurs board send by letting proven failures like Davies, Dier, Doherty, Royal, Sanchez continue to pick up a wage rather than spending the money it will take to replace them?
A fish rots from the head and a football club rots from the board.
Either back Conte with money or get rid and get a project manager to show the fans we have no real ambition to win anything. This half and half approach only works for Levy - it convinces some fans that we are ambitious and some others that the manager isn’t the problem.
posted on 1/1/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 12 minutes ago
Newcastle are the perfect example of Ambition flowing from the top down. Everyone connected with Newcastle knows that the owners are not going to faff about, they are in it to win it - this transcends to the players as they know if they don’t perform they will be replaced.
What message do the Spurs board send by letting proven failures like Davies, Dier, Doherty, Royal, Sanchez continue to pick up a wage rather than spending the money it will take to replace them?
A fish rots from the head and a football club rots from the board.
Either back Conte with money or get rid and get a project manager to show the fans we have no real ambition to win anything. This half and half approach only works for Levy - it convinces some fans that we are ambitious and some others that the manager isn’t the problem.
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I don’t subscribe to that way of thinking. There seems to be a perception that the project manager approach will see us never win anything. That’s absurd. Of course we will. We’ve tried Jose and Conte now and the closest we’ve got to winning something was under Poch, the project man. Once you make a final it’s generally luck that you need at that point. We’ve been in finals but not really had the rub of the green plus each time we do make a final, we’re playing better teams so the odds shorten. Then there’s the league. 86 points in many seasons gone by would have won us the league. That’s the point. The closest we got to winning WAS with the project man over the serial winner so I’ll never understand why everyone seems to think going that way lacks ambition.
posted on 1/1/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 12 minutes ago
Newcastle are the perfect example of Ambition flowing from the top down. Everyone connected with Newcastle knows that the owners are not going to faff about, they are in it to win it - this transcends to the players as they know if they don’t perform they will be replaced.
What message do the Spurs board send by letting proven failures like Davies, Dier, Doherty, Royal, Sanchez continue to pick up a wage rather than spending the money it will take to replace them?
A fish rots from the head and a football club rots from the board.
Either back Conte with money or get rid and get a project manager to show the fans we have no real ambition to win anything. This half and half approach only works for Levy - it convinces some fans that we are ambitious and some others that the manager isn’t the problem.
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I don’t subscribe to that way of thinking. There seems to be a perception that the project manager approach will see us never win anything. That’s absurd. Of course we will. We’ve tried Jose and Conte now and the closest we’ve got to winning something was under Poch, the project man. Once you make a final it’s generally luck that you need at that point. We’ve been in finals but not really had the rub of the green plus each time we do make a final, we’re playing better teams so the odds shorten. Then there’s the league. 86 points in many seasons gone by would have won us the league. That’s the point. The closest we got to winning WAS with the project man over the serial winner so I’ll never understand why everyone seems to think going that way lacks ambition.
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First off, Jose was not allowed to play the final against City - even though we had beaten them a few times under him. Instead his baldness felt Ryan Mason would be a better fit.
Secondly, we got incredibly lucky with Poch - what other project manager has got close to do what Poch did with Spurs? City and Liverpool went with proven managers, Chelsea change manager more times than Levy changes his underwear.
Which Leaves Arsenal - they look good at the moment, but I still suspect City will reel them in - so 1 FA cup.
United tried it with Ole, made a couple of finals, but haven’t won anything since Jose.
All a project manager does is allow Levy to hit the snooze button - the manager will be talking about how it’s a process and it takes time to build blah blah blah. Levy will milk the fans for 5th/6th place finishes and no trophies whilst Newcastle keep spending big and land their first title in 80 years, Chelsea sack Potter and get a winner in, Liverpool rediscover their mojo and City win at least 1 trophy each season.
Lightening won’t strike twice for Spurs, we have the infrastructure to really compete but our board lack the appetite and ambition.
But don’t worry, I think Levy can see we have enough gullible fans to make the “project manager” angle work so you will get your wish and five years from now we can argue about this again - trophyless
posted on 1/1/23
The other thing about project Poch was that it relied on us fluking a generational talent at the same time - we won’t produce another player of Kanes calibre for 50 years.
So new project will start with us replacing Kane and potentially Son who is starting to look post peak.
Good luck new project manager, your budget will be £20m, whatever you can raise from Doherty, Royal, Sanchez, Winks, Rodon - and the proceeds from the half time raffles.
posted on 1/1/23
Fluking or developing a talent? The other assumption is that Poch inherited a brilliant team. He didn’t. He constructed it. There’s a difference. I don’t remember Eriksen, Dembele, Rose and Walker amongst others, pulling up any trees until Poch arrived. If that was a brilliant team, it was down to him and his coaching.
posted on 2/1/23
Fans should quit comparing us to other teams. No way Howe is playing with the intensity off the ball with out lot which is one of the key factors of why they are doing so well. We last did that under Poch but he had to bin the press when our better players left and we struggled to keep the ball. We just don't have the players.
Just like the same fans clamouring for Potter not so long ago.. Wasn't our fans decrying us for also not getting Tuchel??..If Potter is struggling with that Chelsea squad, heavens knows what he would be doing with our lot.. Faack me...Ja606 would be in meltdown with the same fans who have been crying for his signature wanting him out.
You have to give a manager time to build a team not bring in a 4th manager in under 4 years..
posted on 2/1/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
Fluking or developing a talent? The other assumption is that Poch inherited a brilliant team. He didn’t. He constructed it. There’s a difference. I don’t remember Eriksen, Dembele, Rose and Walker amongst others, pulling up any trees until Poch arrived. If that was a brilliant team, it was down to him and his coaching.
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Kane developed Kane, those level of players get there no matter what.
You won’t get a second Kane, not for 50 years if we’re lucky and Poch won’t look have as good with a striker with less than half of Kanes talent - which is all Levy will fork out for.
Did Poch develop those other guys - yes he did - but the hundreds of goals Kane has scored for us took us up the levels.
The other thing is, Poch never seemed to be able to develop the likes of N’jie, N’koudou, Janssen, Soldado, Chadli, Stambouli, Fazio - so is there any guarantee he can develop the players we have?
posted on 2/1/23
comment by Spurs-To Dream is to Dare (U12707)
posted 7 minutes ago
Fans should quit comparing us to other teams. No way Howe is playing with the intensity off the ball with out lot which is one of the key factors of why they are doing so well. We last did that under Poch but he had to bin the press when our better players left and we struggled to keep the ball. We just don't have the players.
Just like the same fans clamouring for Potter not so long ago.. Wasn't our fans decrying us for also not getting Tuchel??..If Potter is struggling with that Chelsea squad, heavens knows what he would be doing with our lot.. Faack me...Ja606 would be in meltdown with the same fans who have been crying for his signature wanting him out.
You have to give a manager time to build a team not bring in a 4th manager in under 4 years..
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It’s hilarious, the same fans who want a 4/5 year project failure won’t give Conte a second full season despite already getting us back into the CL.
What this really comes down to is style, we have a section of support a bit like West Ham’s who don’t care if we win anything as long as we play the Tottenham (West Ham) way. Some probably cling to the days where we used to lose 5-4 or 4-3 after being 3-0 up at half time
posted on 2/1/23
The issue is, Conte won't stay longer than 2 or 3 seasons.
posted on 2/1/23
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 7 minutes ago
The issue is, Conte won't stay longer than 2 or 3 seasons.
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3 seasons = 6 windows. Not bad and enough time to buid a proper side. As long as we live up to his expectations then he will stay. If he not he goes. Thats fair.
posted on 2/1/23
I don’t get this rhetoric about living up to his expectations and worrying about him walking? As if to say he isn’t playing dinosaur FOSSIL football. Lucky if he don’t get sacked.
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