Usual story for Perez, such a poor finisher

comment by Foxello (U6985)
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comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
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Well that started under Rodgers and it’s quite common for teams that naturally want to play a higher intensity, higher pressing game, which with the exception of certain performances, we usually try and do. Liverpool, who look to employ a similar style also suffer with recurring injuries. Some will say that Rodgers bringing in a club doctor etc has had something to do with it but I honestly think it’s the much more intensive training sessions we do.

What’s happened consistently since 2020 however is that the club have failed to bring squad depth in. That’s one of the reasons we missed out on top 4 and it’s one of the reasons that will likely see us relegated this seaso.
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Squad depth or not, the amount of injuries (particularly muscle injuries) we have had under Rodgers is unacceptable. Whatever he's doing at Seagrave is wrecking the players. Not sure you can pin that on Top.
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Of course I can - it’s his club. He appoints a director of football who in turn appoints coaching staff and a medical team. This has been going on for years - you can’t tell me Top isn’t aware and hasn’t asked the same question

comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted less than a minute ago
Usual story for Perez, such a poor finisher
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Such a poor player. Can’t wait til he gets a new contract

That, was as expected for perez

Harvey Barnes needs to seriously step up tonight. Been awful this season

Brendan Rodgers 😂😂😂😂

Rodgers Cancer ridden Club just embarrassing how bad the Sports Science side are, still he probably over rules them anyway 😉

comment by True Blue ( RODGERS can F&CK OFF ) (U9486)
posted less than a minute ago
Brendan Rodgers 😂😂😂😂

Rodgers Cancer ridden Club just embarrassing how bad the Sports Science side are, still he probably over rules them anyway 😉
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Talking of cancerous…..here he comes. I guess when Rodgers leaves we’ll be able to spend all that money that’s been kicking about 😂😂😂

comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well that started under Rodgers and it’s quite common for teams that naturally want to play a higher intensity, higher pressing game, which with the exception of certain performances, we usually try and do. Liverpool, who look to employ a similar style also suffer with recurring injuries. Some will say that Rodgers bringing in a club doctor etc has had something to do with it but I honestly think it’s the much more intensive training sessions we do.

What’s happened consistently since 2020 however is that the club have failed to bring squad depth in. That’s one of the reasons we missed out on top 4 and it’s one of the reasons that will likely see us relegated this seaso.
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Squad depth or not, the amount of injuries (particularly muscle injuries) we have had under Rodgers is unacceptable. Whatever he's doing at Seagrave is wrecking the players. Not sure you can pin that on Top.
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Of course I can - it’s his club. He appoints a director of football who in turn appoints coaching staff and a medical team. This has been going on for years - you can’t tell me Top isn’t aware and hasn’t asked the same question
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Fair point. Rodgers is Top's kryptonite. He's systematically ruining everything that has been built here. We never use to have these problems. Even under Puel who was almost universally mocked and dispised, we never lacked professionalism. Rodgers has turned us into a laughing stock and he'll take us down if Top doesn't wake up.

comment by Foxello (U6985)
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comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well that started under Rodgers and it’s quite common for teams that naturally want to play a higher intensity, higher pressing game, which with the exception of certain performances, we usually try and do. Liverpool, who look to employ a similar style also suffer with recurring injuries. Some will say that Rodgers bringing in a club doctor etc has had something to do with it but I honestly think it’s the much more intensive training sessions we do.

What’s happened consistently since 2020 however is that the club have failed to bring squad depth in. That’s one of the reasons we missed out on top 4 and it’s one of the reasons that will likely see us relegated this seaso.
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Squad depth or not, the amount of injuries (particularly muscle injuries) we have had under Rodgers is unacceptable. Whatever he's doing at Seagrave is wrecking the players. Not sure you can pin that on Top.
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Of course I can - it’s his club. He appoints a director of football who in turn appoints coaching staff and a medical team. This has been going on for years - you can’t tell me Top isn’t aware and hasn’t asked the same question
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Fair point. Rodgers is Top's kryptonite. He's systematically ruining everything that has been built here. We never use to have these problems. Even under Puel who was almost universally mocked and dispised, we never lacked professionalism. Rodgers has turned us into a laughing stock and he'll take us down if Top doesn't wake up.
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Top is his own kryptonite Foxello. The club have done this to themselves and are solely responsible. They failed to sack Rodgers when action was needed, they messed up important recruitment positions, failed to manage contracts and spent money (on rubbish) they didn’t have

The club is in serious decline and while Rodgers will get the blame for everything, ultimately it’s always the owners and the people who he entrusts to make the footballing decisions that are ultimately accountable.

The fans just won’t see it until it’s much too late

comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by True Blue ( RODGERS can F&CK OFF ) (U9486)
posted less than a minute ago
Brendan Rodgers 😂😂😂😂

Rodgers Cancer ridden Club just embarrassing how bad the Sports Science side are, still he probably over rules them anyway 😉
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Talking of cancerous…..here he comes. I guess when Rodgers leaves we’ll be able to spend all that money that’s been kicking about 😂😂😂
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Painful as it is, I do kinda agree with TB. Rodgers is a cancer and he's killing us. We can talk about the financial and structural issues off the pitch, but he is ultimately responsible for what happens on it. We don't need to spend millions, we have already spent and wasted millions on rubbish. We need a manager who can coach and manage what we do have without bleating on about how terrible his lot is and wrecking the limbs of the players we do have.

comment by Foxello (U6985)
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comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by True Blue ( RODGERS can F&CK OFF ) (U9486)
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Brendan Rodgers 😂😂😂😂

Rodgers Cancer ridden Club just embarrassing how bad the Sports Science side are, still he probably over rules them anyway 😉
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Talking of cancerous…..here he comes. I guess when Rodgers leaves we’ll be able to spend all that money that’s been kicking about 😂😂😂
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Painful as it is, I do kinda agree with TB. Rodgers is a cancer and he's killing us. We can talk about the financial and structural issues off the pitch, but he is ultimately responsible for what happens on it. We don't need to spend millions, we have already spent and wasted millions on rubbish. We need a manager who can coach and manage what we do have without bleating on about how terrible his lot is and wrecking the limbs of the players we do have.
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The club are responsible for appointing the right manager to get the results on the pitch. They can sack said manager at any point it he isn’t. If Rodgers is a cancer that’s killing the club then Top and the board are the dopey patient standing in the radiation zone letting it happen.

The idea that this is simply all because of Rodgers doesn’t and never has stacked up. It’s never that simple, which is why, when he does go, the fans are in for an even bigger shock

Put it another way - why have clubs like Fulham and Brentford managed to pull ahead of us over the past 2 seasons when they have spent about the same as us in that time, but from a much lower starting point? Yes, they are currently being run better off the pitch, but they also have better recruitment, better coaching, better management.

I ask you this. Who are we going to get and what are they going to do with no money to spend on a squad that needs drastic surgery other than paper the cracks. We’ve been doing that for 18 months

Is another manager going to make Daniel Amartey a decent defender? Is another manager going to make Ward a better keeper? Perez a better finisher? Jamie. Vardy a 30 year old again?

"The club are responsible for appointing the right manager to get the results on the pitch. They can sack said manager at any point it he isn’t. If Rodgers is a cancer that’s killing the club then Top and the board are the dopey patient standing in the radiation zone letting it happen.

The idea that this is simply all because of Rodgers doesn’t and never has stacked up. It’s never that simple, which is why, when he does go, the fans are in for an even bigger shock"

Yes, I agree. Top should have sacked Rodgers much sooner, and that is on him and the club. I'll happily take my chances with a lower paid manager with a back to basics recruitment strategy and a fraction of the God complex that Rodgers has.

comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted less than a minute ago
Put it another way - why have clubs like Fulham and Brentford managed to pull ahead of us over the past 2 seasons when they have spent about the same as us in that time, but from a much lower starting point? Yes, they are currently being run better off the pitch, but they also have better recruitment, better coaching, better management.
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They haven’t spent about the same as us. Well not recently. We have the lowest net spend (by a mile) or any club in the PL in the last 12 months. We’ve recouped big money from Fofana and failed to invest any of it.

On top of that they have a far better recruitment policy. That’s not Rodgers responsibility - he doesn’t identify and sign players. He might input into it - but it’s the club that has let the recruitment go so badly wrong.

Whichever way you look at it - the problem is multi-faceted which is why we’re failing on so many fronts and not just the areas Rodgers is directly responsible for. Unless someone has made him accountant as well

On the plus side we’ve got some great options off the bench to change things. Mcateee, Brunt and Vestergard for example

comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
I ask you this. Who are we going to get and what are they going to do with no money to spend on a squad that needs drastic surgery other than paper the cracks. We’ve been doing that for 18 months

Is another manager going to make Daniel Amartey a decent defender? Is another manager going to make Ward a better keeper? Perez a better finisher? Jamie. Vardy a 30 year old again?
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There are other options available who are at the club right now! Another manager would hopefully give Soyuncu a chance ahead of Amartey, and Iversen ahead of Ward. Play Daka and Iheanacho up front as a partnership, try something different for the formation and tactics. The squad is poor but there are decent players who don't get a look in under Rodgers.

The club has made strategic and fundamental mistakes over the past 2 years, I am not doubting that, but Rodgers is amplifying the problems with his dreadful management.

comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by 99 Problems (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
I ask you this. Who are we going to get and what are they going to do with no money to spend on a squad that needs drastic surgery other than paper the cracks. We’ve been doing that for 18 months

Is another manager going to make Daniel Amartey a decent defender? Is another manager going to make Ward a better keeper? Perez a better finisher? Jamie. Vardy a 30 year old again?
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There are other options available who are at the club right now! Another manager would hopefully give Soyuncu a chance ahead of Amartey, and Iversen ahead of Ward. Play Daka and Iheanacho up front as a partnership, try something different for the formation and tactics. The squad is poor but there are decent players who don't get a look in under Rodgers.

The club has made strategic and fundamental mistakes over the past 2 years, I am not doubting that, but Rodgers is amplifying the problems with his dreadful management.
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I agree. He’s part of the problem no doubt. I mean I think Soyuncu is a pretty poor defender truth be told but I’d play him over Amartey. Daka and Iheanacho would be great to see - it’s getting to the point where his options are so limited we might just see that anyway

The Forest game is now pivotal. Lose that and I’m convinced they stay up instead of us.

Remember TB saying only last week we’re too good to go down?? He hasn’t got a clue…..

We are definitely not too good to go down. We definitely shouldn't go down, but we 100% could. The longer this mess continues, the more likely that will become.

Which players have improved under Rodgers in the past 12-18 months? KDH, yes. Maddison, maybe. Every other player has either stagnated or regressed. Regardless of what is happening elsewhere inside the club, that is 100% on Rodgers and his inept management and coaching.

comment by Foxello (U6985)
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We are definitely not too good to go down. We definitely shouldn't go down, but we 100% could. The longer this mess continues, the more likely that will become.

Which players have improved under Rodgers in the past 12-18 months? KDH, yes. Maddison, maybe. Every other player has either stagnated or regressed. Regardless of what is happening elsewhere inside the club, that is 100% on Rodgers and his inept management and coaching.
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He’s not an inept coach. He might be many things, a poor tactician, a horrible individual, but he can coach. Remember what we were serving up under Puel and what Rodgers subsequently did when he first came in?

Young players hugely improved, Barnes was dreadful before Rodgers came, he improved the intensity, made a massive difference to Rodgers, got the best out of Tielemans (ok not consistently) and he did a lot of work to take us from a mid table bore fest to top 4 contenders and FA cup winners. You don’t do that by not being able to coach

I take your point. The last 12 months have been very poor. He’s no longer interested, that’s clear and he’s never been a good tactician.

Vardy misses another chance he would have buried last season

Oh dear oh dear Amartey 😂😂😂

Get Iheanacho on