A few people close to him have died and effected his mental health and he’s been racially abused for missing England’s penalty as well as his performances since making a huge financial move to United. There are maybe other factors too that are none of our business but the club and manager clearly feel that he needs space and his own fitness regime to try and help matters. These are things that would effect most 22 year olds not that you’d understand because you come across as a bit of a c-ck.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 minutes ago
A few people close to him have died and effected his mental health and he’s been racially abused for missing England’s penalty as well as his performances since making a huge financial move to United. There are maybe other factors too that are none of our business but the club and manager clearly feel that he needs space and his own fitness regime to try and help matters. These are things that would effect most 22 year olds not that you’d understand because you come across as a bit of a c-ck.
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Didn’t realise people had died, other than his aunt but that was early in his utd career I think? Perhaps I don’t have the full picture.
If I’m honest, a £350k a week footballer should be able to handle losses and mistakes on the pitch, that doesn’t account for grief though.
If he doesn’t have the mentality for utd we should get rid.
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U17
Mental health issues is not a joking matter.
I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure a person with mental problems who might suicidal doesn't worry about how much money he or she is making ffs.
Nobody is asking for anybody to feel bad for Sancho ( and I'm sure many people here don't ) but whatever he's going through mentally right now is bigger than football.
Let's at least understand that
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As someone who has suffered mental health issues all my adult life, I would literally give up everything of financial value i have.. house, business, savings etc and start totally from scratch if it meant i would be guaranteed the average person's mental well being.
Or we should try and help him and see if he can overcome or at least better deal with any mental issues he may have like any normal compassionate person would. Yeah I’m sure the more money someone earns the better they should be at dealing with life. Kn-bhead.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 9 hours, 45 minutes ago
It’s wrong if he’s getting 350k a week for doing nothing.
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It’s ridiculous, he should be on sick pay like everybody else would be. Stealing a living, mental health issues or not.
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It costs nothing to opine on things we know nothing about, doesn't it? And it's always tempting to think we can apply our own life experiences to understand the machinations of worlds that aren't familiar to us.
There's a valid fairness angle (talent at the top of the pyramid isn't liable to the same rules and jeopardy as those of us lower down) to this question, which I would frame in the context of the UK having very limited employment protections for sickness, compared with some of the more productive, innovative economies of Europe.
But purely from a self-interested business point of view, United have two things to consider. One is the wasted money spent on wages while Sancho is not playing. The other is the bigger picture of Sancho as an asset for which we have paid a lot of money. Firstly, it's pure conjecture that Sancho could be considered 'off sick' and incapable of playing, rather than that the management have decided to take him out of the squad for a bit to optimise his mental conditioning. However, if we accept that hypothetical that it would be possible to dock Sancho's pay, United could save a few million in wages. The question is whether it would be a net benefit to the business and the sporting operation to make those savings, or whether it would be an impediment to recovering the sparkling footballer that Jadon Sancho was at Dortmund, which prompted the club to spend so much on him in the first place. It's very clear that taking a few weeks to turn Sancho back into a £70m footballer would be, in cold financial terms, far more useful than putting him on sick pay. We should note that when you put someone on sick pay, you are signing them off work altogether and not at liberty to ask them to train every day, working with specialists to hone your brain and body to thrive at the top end of the sport. An elite coaching team (including a highly experienced sport psychologist) which is accountable to the business for maximising its investments in terms of sporting output have decided on this course of action. I tend to trust their judgement over that of someone who resents the fact that the rich play by different rules, but supports the Tories anyway.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 10 hours, 6 minutes ago
I loved Rio as a player but he’s a bit of a clown.
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It becoming quite a common observation in many of Uniteds (and other clubs) ex player legends, that once the cross over post retirement to the media they show their true selves as regular and slightly damages human beings whose own mouths are well big enough to fit their own once magical feet into them. Others include Nevilles, Keano, Scholes, Souness etc. etc. to name a few.
Thought Busby would have more sympathy for Sancho given he’s rich and Busby is a Tory cuuuunt.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Rashers! (U2958)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U17
Mental health issues is not a joking matter.
I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure a person with mental problems who might suicidal doesn't worry about how much money he or she is making ffs.
Nobody is asking for anybody to feel bad for Sancho ( and I'm sure many people here don't ) but whatever he's going through mentally right now is bigger than football.
Let's at least understand that
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As someone who has suffered mental health issues all my adult life, I would literally give up everything of financial value i have.. house, business, savings etc and start totally from scratch if it meant i would be guaranteed the average person's mental well being.
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Yes, my comment was mocking those who think having lots of money solves everything and stops you from suffering from things other humans suffer from. The "happily be suicidal" was clearly not oxymoronic enough. I shall try and be less subtle from now on.
Who would have guessed someone who has no compassion for people's mental health and think money solves any problem would be a Tory?
comment by Derick Osei (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Rashers! (U2958)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U17
Mental health issues is not a joking matter.
I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure a person with mental problems who might suicidal doesn't worry about how much money he or she is making ffs.
Nobody is asking for anybody to feel bad for Sancho ( and I'm sure many people here don't ) but whatever he's going through mentally right now is bigger than football.
Let's at least understand that
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100%
As someone who has suffered mental health issues all my adult life, I would literally give up everything of financial value i have.. house, business, savings etc and start totally from scratch if it meant i would be guaranteed the average person's mental well being.
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Yes, my comment was mocking those who think having lots of money solves everything and stops you from suffering from things other humans suffer from. The "happily be suicidal" was clearly not oxymoronic enough. I shall try and be less subtle from now on.
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I thought it was clear enough what you were doing, Mr Smith.
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
Thought Busby would have more sympathy for Sancho given he’s rich and Busby is a Tory cuuuunt.
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Modern right-wing politics is primarily driven by grievance and hostility to diverse manifestations of empathy or solidarity, rather than being ideologically consistent on the political economy.
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 10 hours, 6 minutes ago
I loved Rio as a player but he’s a bit of a clown.
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It becoming quite a common observation in many of Uniteds (and other clubs) ex player legends, that once the cross over post retirement to the media they show their true selves as regular and slightly damages human beings whose own mouths are well big enough to fit their own once magical feet into them. Others include Nevilles, Keano, Scholes, Souness etc. etc. to name a few.
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I like Gary Neville. He has a lot to say but he comes across well usually. I also like Keane but he embarrassed himself in the Ronaldo saga.
Scholes and Rio are painful.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
Thought Busby would have more sympathy for Sancho given he’s rich and Busby is a Tory cuuuunt.
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Modern right-wing politics is primarily driven by grievance and hostility to diverse manifestations of empathy or solidarity, rather than being ideologically consistent on the political economy.
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You do know that tories are incapable of feeling empathy? They don't choose not to show empathy. It is why they are so good at running our economy, because they think purely logically and don't show weaknesses like empathy. Death is natural. Its likelihood decreases through hard work and earning more money. If people want to die then that's their choice. More money for the rest of us.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 9 hours, 45 minutes ago
It’s wrong if he’s getting 350k a week for doing nothing.
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It’s ridiculous, he should be on sick pay like everybody else would be. Stealing a living, mental health issues or not.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaa...?
Maybe if Sancho learnt more Maths he'd be ok.
comment by Derick Osei (U1734)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Rashers! (U2958)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U17
Mental health issues is not a joking matter.
I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure a person with mental problems who might suicidal doesn't worry about how much money he or she is making ffs.
Nobody is asking for anybody to feel bad for Sancho ( and I'm sure many people here don't ) but whatever he's going through mentally right now is bigger than football.
Let's at least understand that
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100%
As someone who has suffered mental health issues all my adult life, I would literally give up everything of financial value i have.. house, business, savings etc and start totally from scratch if it meant i would be guaranteed the average person's mental well being.
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Yes, my comment was mocking those who think having lots of money solves everything and stops you from suffering from things other humans suffer from. The "happily be suicidal" was clearly not oxymoronic enough. I shall try and be less subtle from now on.
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I knew you were just barry'ing, but sadly quite a few on here actually believe that stuff and it really needs to be hammered home the reality to them, on occasion.
It seems many have fallen ignorant to the teachings of revered disciple Christopher Wallace:
Mo' money, mo' problems.
In all seriousness, I am pleasantly surprised by how EtH and the club seem to be handling this; absolutely not a matter on which a half-hearted approach is acceptable.
The kid is 22, let's not forget.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
Thought Busby would have more sympathy for Sancho given he’s rich and Busby is a Tory cuuuunt.
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Modern right-wing politics is primarily driven by grievance and hostility to diverse manifestations of empathy or solidarity, rather than being ideologically consistent on the political economy.
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Yeah I know. I was just being facetious because Busby is a Tory cuuuunt.
Sancho won’t be getting £350k a week anyway. Wages are always reported (often guessed) on the basis of potential earnings not base rates.
the club are doing the right thing keeping him away if he is not mentally ready.
regardless of the on pitch performances and results what has impressed me more than anything is ETH's ability to handle things off of it such as Ronaldo, Sancho and Rashford.
maybe if we had these kind of man management skills previously one of the best talents to come through our youth system in years wouldnt be up on sexual assault charges
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Rashers! (U2958)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U1734)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Rashers! (U2958)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U17
Mental health issues is not a joking matter.
I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure a person with mental problems who might suicidal doesn't worry about how much money he or she is making ffs.
Nobody is asking for anybody to feel bad for Sancho ( and I'm sure many people here don't ) but whatever he's going through mentally right now is bigger than football.
Let's at least understand that
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100%
As someone who has suffered mental health issues all my adult life, I would literally give up everything of financial value i have.. house, business, savings etc and start totally from scratch if it meant i would be guaranteed the average person's mental well being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, my comment was mocking those who think having lots of money solves everything and stops you from suffering from things other humans suffer from. The "happily be suicidal" was clearly not oxymoronic enough. I shall try and be less subtle from now on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I knew you were just barry'ing, but sadly quite a few on here actually believe that stuff and it really needs to be hammered home the reality to them, on occasion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can hammer home all you like, it doesn't make them more capable of feeling the same way you do. They can understand the theory, yes, but it will never be their automatic response. They are not wired the same way you are. It's why creating a robot dog to replace real ones would be so difficult. "YOU'RE MEANT TO SHOW ME GENUINE LOVE ROBODOG".... *COMMENCING LOVE*
Get in the bin robodog.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 16 minutes ago
Maybe if Sancho learnt more Maths he'd be ok.
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Probably should learn to play football first.
Jokes aside, hope he’s getting the help he needs. Good to see the club seem to be handling this well.
comment by FFS Dunc FFS (U11713)
posted 4 minutes ago
the club are doing the right thing keeping him away if he is not mentally ready.
regardless of the on pitch performances and results what has impressed me more than anything is ETH's ability to handle things off of it such as Ronaldo, Sancho and Rashford.
maybe if we had these kind of man management skills previously one of the best talents to come through our youth system in years wouldnt be up on sexual assault charges
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Agree with the first two paragraphs. As for the final one, Greenwood's behaviour can't be reduced to not having the right man management / psychological support. Most people with mental issues don't abuse other people. That's on him. The area where the club would share some responsibility is if it was aware of what was going on and ignored it.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by FFS Dunc FFS (U11713)
posted 4 minutes ago
the club are doing the right thing keeping him away if he is not mentally ready.
regardless of the on pitch performances and results what has impressed me more than anything is ETH's ability to handle things off of it such as Ronaldo, Sancho and Rashford.
maybe if we had these kind of man management skills previously one of the best talents to come through our youth system in years wouldnt be up on sexual assault charges
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Agree with the first two paragraphs. As for the final one, Greenwood's behaviour can't be reduced to not having the right man management / psychological support. Most people with mental issues don't abuse other people. That's on him. The area where the club would share some responsibility is if it was aware of what was going on and ignored it.
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posted on 6/1/23
A few people close to him have died and effected his mental health and he’s been racially abused for missing England’s penalty as well as his performances since making a huge financial move to United. There are maybe other factors too that are none of our business but the club and manager clearly feel that he needs space and his own fitness regime to try and help matters. These are things that would effect most 22 year olds not that you’d understand because you come across as a bit of a c-ck.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 minutes ago
A few people close to him have died and effected his mental health and he’s been racially abused for missing England’s penalty as well as his performances since making a huge financial move to United. There are maybe other factors too that are none of our business but the club and manager clearly feel that he needs space and his own fitness regime to try and help matters. These are things that would effect most 22 year olds not that you’d understand because you come across as a bit of a c-ck.
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Didn’t realise people had died, other than his aunt but that was early in his utd career I think? Perhaps I don’t have the full picture.
If I’m honest, a £350k a week footballer should be able to handle losses and mistakes on the pitch, that doesn’t account for grief though.
If he doesn’t have the mentality for utd we should get rid.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U17
Mental health issues is not a joking matter.
I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure a person with mental problems who might suicidal doesn't worry about how much money he or she is making ffs.
Nobody is asking for anybody to feel bad for Sancho ( and I'm sure many people here don't ) but whatever he's going through mentally right now is bigger than football.
Let's at least understand that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
100%
As someone who has suffered mental health issues all my adult life, I would literally give up everything of financial value i have.. house, business, savings etc and start totally from scratch if it meant i would be guaranteed the average person's mental well being.
posted on 6/1/23
Or we should try and help him and see if he can overcome or at least better deal with any mental issues he may have like any normal compassionate person would. Yeah I’m sure the more money someone earns the better they should be at dealing with life. Kn-bhead.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 9 hours, 45 minutes ago
It’s wrong if he’s getting 350k a week for doing nothing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s ridiculous, he should be on sick pay like everybody else would be. Stealing a living, mental health issues or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It costs nothing to opine on things we know nothing about, doesn't it? And it's always tempting to think we can apply our own life experiences to understand the machinations of worlds that aren't familiar to us.
There's a valid fairness angle (talent at the top of the pyramid isn't liable to the same rules and jeopardy as those of us lower down) to this question, which I would frame in the context of the UK having very limited employment protections for sickness, compared with some of the more productive, innovative economies of Europe.
But purely from a self-interested business point of view, United have two things to consider. One is the wasted money spent on wages while Sancho is not playing. The other is the bigger picture of Sancho as an asset for which we have paid a lot of money. Firstly, it's pure conjecture that Sancho could be considered 'off sick' and incapable of playing, rather than that the management have decided to take him out of the squad for a bit to optimise his mental conditioning. However, if we accept that hypothetical that it would be possible to dock Sancho's pay, United could save a few million in wages. The question is whether it would be a net benefit to the business and the sporting operation to make those savings, or whether it would be an impediment to recovering the sparkling footballer that Jadon Sancho was at Dortmund, which prompted the club to spend so much on him in the first place. It's very clear that taking a few weeks to turn Sancho back into a £70m footballer would be, in cold financial terms, far more useful than putting him on sick pay. We should note that when you put someone on sick pay, you are signing them off work altogether and not at liberty to ask them to train every day, working with specialists to hone your brain and body to thrive at the top end of the sport. An elite coaching team (including a highly experienced sport psychologist) which is accountable to the business for maximising its investments in terms of sporting output have decided on this course of action. I tend to trust their judgement over that of someone who resents the fact that the rich play by different rules, but supports the Tories anyway.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 10 hours, 6 minutes ago
I loved Rio as a player but he’s a bit of a clown.
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It becoming quite a common observation in many of Uniteds (and other clubs) ex player legends, that once the cross over post retirement to the media they show their true selves as regular and slightly damages human beings whose own mouths are well big enough to fit their own once magical feet into them. Others include Nevilles, Keano, Scholes, Souness etc. etc. to name a few.
posted on 6/1/23
Thought Busby would have more sympathy for Sancho given he’s rich and Busby is a Tory cuuuunt.
posted on 6/1/23
*damaged
posted on 6/1/23
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Rashers! (U2958)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U17
Mental health issues is not a joking matter.
I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure a person with mental problems who might suicidal doesn't worry about how much money he or she is making ffs.
Nobody is asking for anybody to feel bad for Sancho ( and I'm sure many people here don't ) but whatever he's going through mentally right now is bigger than football.
Let's at least understand that
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100%
As someone who has suffered mental health issues all my adult life, I would literally give up everything of financial value i have.. house, business, savings etc and start totally from scratch if it meant i would be guaranteed the average person's mental well being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, my comment was mocking those who think having lots of money solves everything and stops you from suffering from things other humans suffer from. The "happily be suicidal" was clearly not oxymoronic enough. I shall try and be less subtle from now on.
posted on 6/1/23
Who would have guessed someone who has no compassion for people's mental health and think money solves any problem would be a Tory?
posted on 6/1/23
comment by Derick Osei (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Rashers! (U2958)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U17
Mental health issues is not a joking matter.
I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure a person with mental problems who might suicidal doesn't worry about how much money he or she is making ffs.
Nobody is asking for anybody to feel bad for Sancho ( and I'm sure many people here don't ) but whatever he's going through mentally right now is bigger than football.
Let's at least understand that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
100%
As someone who has suffered mental health issues all my adult life, I would literally give up everything of financial value i have.. house, business, savings etc and start totally from scratch if it meant i would be guaranteed the average person's mental well being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, my comment was mocking those who think having lots of money solves everything and stops you from suffering from things other humans suffer from. The "happily be suicidal" was clearly not oxymoronic enough. I shall try and be less subtle from now on.
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I thought it was clear enough what you were doing, Mr Smith.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
Thought Busby would have more sympathy for Sancho given he’s rich and Busby is a Tory cuuuunt.
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Modern right-wing politics is primarily driven by grievance and hostility to diverse manifestations of empathy or solidarity, rather than being ideologically consistent on the political economy.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 10 hours, 6 minutes ago
I loved Rio as a player but he’s a bit of a clown.
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It becoming quite a common observation in many of Uniteds (and other clubs) ex player legends, that once the cross over post retirement to the media they show their true selves as regular and slightly damages human beings whose own mouths are well big enough to fit their own once magical feet into them. Others include Nevilles, Keano, Scholes, Souness etc. etc. to name a few.
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I like Gary Neville. He has a lot to say but he comes across well usually. I also like Keane but he embarrassed himself in the Ronaldo saga.
Scholes and Rio are painful.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
Thought Busby would have more sympathy for Sancho given he’s rich and Busby is a Tory cuuuunt.
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Modern right-wing politics is primarily driven by grievance and hostility to diverse manifestations of empathy or solidarity, rather than being ideologically consistent on the political economy.
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You do know that tories are incapable of feeling empathy? They don't choose not to show empathy. It is why they are so good at running our economy, because they think purely logically and don't show weaknesses like empathy. Death is natural. Its likelihood decreases through hard work and earning more money. If people want to die then that's their choice. More money for the rest of us.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 9 hours, 45 minutes ago
It’s wrong if he’s getting 350k a week for doing nothing.
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It’s ridiculous, he should be on sick pay like everybody else would be. Stealing a living, mental health issues or not.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaa...?
posted on 6/1/23
Maybe if Sancho learnt more Maths he'd be ok.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by Derick Osei (U1734)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Rashers! (U2958)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U17
Mental health issues is not a joking matter.
I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure a person with mental problems who might suicidal doesn't worry about how much money he or she is making ffs.
Nobody is asking for anybody to feel bad for Sancho ( and I'm sure many people here don't ) but whatever he's going through mentally right now is bigger than football.
Let's at least understand that
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100%
As someone who has suffered mental health issues all my adult life, I would literally give up everything of financial value i have.. house, business, savings etc and start totally from scratch if it meant i would be guaranteed the average person's mental well being.
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Yes, my comment was mocking those who think having lots of money solves everything and stops you from suffering from things other humans suffer from. The "happily be suicidal" was clearly not oxymoronic enough. I shall try and be less subtle from now on.
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I knew you were just barry'ing, but sadly quite a few on here actually believe that stuff and it really needs to be hammered home the reality to them, on occasion.
posted on 6/1/23
It seems many have fallen ignorant to the teachings of revered disciple Christopher Wallace:
Mo' money, mo' problems.
In all seriousness, I am pleasantly surprised by how EtH and the club seem to be handling this; absolutely not a matter on which a half-hearted approach is acceptable.
The kid is 22, let's not forget.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
Thought Busby would have more sympathy for Sancho given he’s rich and Busby is a Tory cuuuunt.
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Modern right-wing politics is primarily driven by grievance and hostility to diverse manifestations of empathy or solidarity, rather than being ideologically consistent on the political economy.
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Yeah I know. I was just being facetious because Busby is a Tory cuuuunt.
posted on 6/1/23
Sancho won’t be getting £350k a week anyway. Wages are always reported (often guessed) on the basis of potential earnings not base rates.
posted on 6/1/23
the club are doing the right thing keeping him away if he is not mentally ready.
regardless of the on pitch performances and results what has impressed me more than anything is ETH's ability to handle things off of it such as Ronaldo, Sancho and Rashford.
maybe if we had these kind of man management skills previously one of the best talents to come through our youth system in years wouldnt be up on sexual assault charges
posted on 6/1/23
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Rashers! (U2958)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U1734)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Rashers! (U2958)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by comic book guy (U17816)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Derick Osei (U17
Mental health issues is not a joking matter.
I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure a person with mental problems who might suicidal doesn't worry about how much money he or she is making ffs.
Nobody is asking for anybody to feel bad for Sancho ( and I'm sure many people here don't ) but whatever he's going through mentally right now is bigger than football.
Let's at least understand that
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100%
As someone who has suffered mental health issues all my adult life, I would literally give up everything of financial value i have.. house, business, savings etc and start totally from scratch if it meant i would be guaranteed the average person's mental well being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, my comment was mocking those who think having lots of money solves everything and stops you from suffering from things other humans suffer from. The "happily be suicidal" was clearly not oxymoronic enough. I shall try and be less subtle from now on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I knew you were just barry'ing, but sadly quite a few on here actually believe that stuff and it really needs to be hammered home the reality to them, on occasion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can hammer home all you like, it doesn't make them more capable of feeling the same way you do. They can understand the theory, yes, but it will never be their automatic response. They are not wired the same way you are. It's why creating a robot dog to replace real ones would be so difficult. "YOU'RE MEANT TO SHOW ME GENUINE LOVE ROBODOG".... *COMMENCING LOVE*
Get in the bin robodog.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 16 minutes ago
Maybe if Sancho learnt more Maths he'd be ok.
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Probably should learn to play football first.
Jokes aside, hope he’s getting the help he needs. Good to see the club seem to be handling this well.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by FFS Dunc FFS (U11713)
posted 4 minutes ago
the club are doing the right thing keeping him away if he is not mentally ready.
regardless of the on pitch performances and results what has impressed me more than anything is ETH's ability to handle things off of it such as Ronaldo, Sancho and Rashford.
maybe if we had these kind of man management skills previously one of the best talents to come through our youth system in years wouldnt be up on sexual assault charges
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Agree with the first two paragraphs. As for the final one, Greenwood's behaviour can't be reduced to not having the right man management / psychological support. Most people with mental issues don't abuse other people. That's on him. The area where the club would share some responsibility is if it was aware of what was going on and ignored it.
posted on 6/1/23
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by FFS Dunc FFS (U11713)
posted 4 minutes ago
the club are doing the right thing keeping him away if he is not mentally ready.
regardless of the on pitch performances and results what has impressed me more than anything is ETH's ability to handle things off of it such as Ronaldo, Sancho and Rashford.
maybe if we had these kind of man management skills previously one of the best talents to come through our youth system in years wouldnt be up on sexual assault charges
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Agree with the first two paragraphs. As for the final one, Greenwood's behaviour can't be reduced to not having the right man management / psychological support. Most people with mental issues don't abuse other people. That's on him. The area where the club would share some responsibility is if it was aware of what was going on and ignored it.
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Ronaldo was managed by Fergie.
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