They replace the coaching staff well
Good scouting, good coaching, good ownership.
They are not the first team to do it - Bolton had a similar rise as did Charlton before them - but with those there was also a very sharp decline. Can Brighton avoid that?
They have a strong sporting strategy based on a clear idea of their footballing objectives, the type of manager who will thrive in their system, and an excellent recruitment set-up designed to identify undervalued players who will slot in.
It was clear that United needed all of these things in 2013. If we had tried, then even doing it only half as well as Brighton, the returns on our budget would have seen vastly superior results.
Well playing the likes of Liverpool isn’t such a great test!
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 minutes ago
They have a strong sporting strategy based on a clear idea of their footballing objectives, the type of manager who will thrive in their system, and an excellent recruitment set-up designed to identify undervalued players who will slot in.
It was clear that United needed all of these things in 2013. If we had tried, then even doing it only half as well as Brighton, the returns on our budget would have seen vastly superior results.
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The most important thing for a team to have is hard work and balance between defence and attack. They have that and therefore when they play teams who don't, they'll do well. Stating the obvious of course.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 18 minutes ago
Good scouting, good coaching, good ownership.
They are not the first team to do it - Bolton had a similar rise as did Charlton before them - but with those there was also a very sharp decline. Can Brighton avoid that?
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I think Brighton’s model is more sustainable.
They use the data analytics to identify what they need, they always have back up plans and they work within their means - basically they are arguably the best run club in the Prem
A smart football strategy.
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
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won't be the last head lost to the newcastle regime
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comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
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won't be the last head lost to the newcastle regime
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comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
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comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
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won't be the last head lost to the newcastle regime
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Nicely done
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comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
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won't be the last head lost to the newcastle regime
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🤣. I don't know what you're talking about. The PIF is completely separate from and in no way related to the Saudi regime.
I'm sure the Mohammed Bin Salman who heads the PIF isn't the same Mohammed Bin Salman who is Saudi Crown Prince.
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
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won't be the last head lost to the newcastle regime
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Nicely done
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Brighton know exactly what kind of club they are.
A "small town" club seeking to leverage a number of years of Premier League security into sustainable success down the line.
Buy your scouted players cheap in bulk. Ship the lot of them out across Europe on loan. Give a couple of the promising ones a run in the senior team to hike up their price. Sell at a premium, and repeat the cycle.
Brighton currently have 10 players between the ages of 19-24 out on loan across Europe. So we can expect to see another 2 to 3 "Kaori Mitomas" over the next couple of seasons.
Also helps to take a couple of promising players from other top PL sides on loan to keep the total day-to-day squad numbers up.
All of this, running hand in hand with a relatively prudent wage bill. (By PL standards at least).
A sharp contrast to their M23 rivals down the road.
Crystal Palace have completely forgotten who they are after a few years of Premier League security. The old Palace would have never been arrogant enough to allow players like Zaha to run their contracts down just to prove a point.
The old Palace would have never allowed their wages-income ratio to shoot up from 74% to an eye-watering 94%.
In fairness to Palace, the old Palace wouldn’t have signed so many players under 25 and revamped their academy. They’ve had to have a rethink so that they can sustainably stay in the league and make money off development of young talent.
The sad thing about modern day football is no matter how well they do, soon they will crash back down to earth.
No chance of them solidifying their position and becoming an established top half PL side.
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
In fairness to Palace, the old Palace wouldn’t have signed so many players under 25 and revamped their academy. They’ve had to have a rethink so that they can sustainably stay in the league and make money off development of young talent.
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All good points. But the resulting hike in their wage bill pretty much means that every season is like a game of Russian roulette.
One bad season, and they would be stuck with a problem that even the parachute payments wouldn't be able to solve.
And the Zaha business runs the risk of setting a very bad precedent for the rest of the side. Just look at Arsenal. The past few years have seen a number of players turn the club into complete mugs when it comes to selling players.
Haven’t they been pretty high up on wages to turnover for years anyway? I think one of their problems is old, higher earners that they can’t really sell. Which is why they’ve let so many contracts run down and looked to reinvigorate the squad with younger players gradually.
I think the Zaha case is pretty unique. They’ve been so reliant on him to keep them up that his value was far above what anyone would pay. We also had a massive sell on clause in the contract that contributed to that.
They’ve got a lot of old players out of contract this summer. That will reduce the wage bill massively. If they go down next season they’ll probably be in much better shape to come back up because of this, especially if they invest in some more talented young players.
They’re really looking to make their academy an important part of the club again. They’ve invested a lot in the training complex and I believe bigger contracts because they keep getting facked by Chelsea hoovering up all the talent.
Being a Greater London club does seem to be a bit of a nightmare at times.
It catches up with you in the end as it has with Leicester. A small club has to get every decision right - they have to be perfect. The moment some mistakes are made, or there’s a change at board level, different direction, then it can quickly unravel.
Brighton are effectively the new Leicester (but without the trophies) and they’re a well run club with a very good recruitment team. Europe will probably be the start of their downfall however - was for us, you end up having to spend more for squad depth and that’s where FFP gets you.
The whole of the PL is so rigged towards the financially rich clubs, enabled by FFP, that in the end a super league will probably have felt like a good idea
Gillespie, the new academy rules have facked a lot of smaller clubs over really.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 29 minutes ago
The sad thing about modern day football is no matter how well they do, soon they will crash back down to earth.
No chance of them solidifying their position and becoming an established top half PL side.
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This. It never lasts. The financially doped and mega rich will always win out and in the end the gap will be insurmountable between the new top 6 and the rest of the PL
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 38 minutes ago
The sad thing about modern day football is no matter how well they do, soon they will crash back down to earth.
No chance of them solidifying their position and becoming an established top half PL side.
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Agree. Seen it all before. Wolves, Burnley. Now Fulham and Brighton. It only ever lasts a season or two.
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posted on 29/1/23
They replace the coaching staff well
posted on 29/1/23
Good scouting, good coaching, good ownership.
They are not the first team to do it - Bolton had a similar rise as did Charlton before them - but with those there was also a very sharp decline. Can Brighton avoid that?
posted on 29/1/23
They have a strong sporting strategy based on a clear idea of their footballing objectives, the type of manager who will thrive in their system, and an excellent recruitment set-up designed to identify undervalued players who will slot in.
It was clear that United needed all of these things in 2013. If we had tried, then even doing it only half as well as Brighton, the returns on our budget would have seen vastly superior results.
posted on 29/1/23
Well playing the likes of Liverpool isn’t such a great test!
posted on 29/1/23
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 minutes ago
They have a strong sporting strategy based on a clear idea of their footballing objectives, the type of manager who will thrive in their system, and an excellent recruitment set-up designed to identify undervalued players who will slot in.
It was clear that United needed all of these things in 2013. If we had tried, then even doing it only half as well as Brighton, the returns on our budget would have seen vastly superior results.
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posted on 29/1/23
The most important thing for a team to have is hard work and balance between defence and attack. They have that and therefore when they play teams who don't, they'll do well. Stating the obvious of course.
posted on 29/1/23
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 18 minutes ago
Good scouting, good coaching, good ownership.
They are not the first team to do it - Bolton had a similar rise as did Charlton before them - but with those there was also a very sharp decline. Can Brighton avoid that?
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I think Brighton’s model is more sustainable.
posted on 29/1/23
They use the data analytics to identify what they need, they always have back up plans and they work within their means - basically they are arguably the best run club in the Prem
posted on 29/1/23
A smart football strategy.
posted on 29/1/23
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
posted on 29/1/23
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
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won't be the last head lost to the newcastle regime
posted on 29/1/23
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
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won't be the last head lost to the newcastle regime
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posted on 29/1/23
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
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won't be the last head lost to the newcastle regime
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Nicely done
posted on 29/1/23
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
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won't be the last head lost to the newcastle regime
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🤣. I don't know what you're talking about. The PIF is completely separate from and in no way related to the Saudi regime.
I'm sure the Mohammed Bin Salman who heads the PIF isn't the same Mohammed Bin Salman who is Saudi Crown Prince.
posted on 29/1/23
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Didn’t they lose their head of recruitment to Newcastle recently?
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won't be the last head lost to the newcastle regime
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Nicely done
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posted on 29/1/23
Brighton know exactly what kind of club they are.
A "small town" club seeking to leverage a number of years of Premier League security into sustainable success down the line.
Buy your scouted players cheap in bulk. Ship the lot of them out across Europe on loan. Give a couple of the promising ones a run in the senior team to hike up their price. Sell at a premium, and repeat the cycle.
Brighton currently have 10 players between the ages of 19-24 out on loan across Europe. So we can expect to see another 2 to 3 "Kaori Mitomas" over the next couple of seasons.
Also helps to take a couple of promising players from other top PL sides on loan to keep the total day-to-day squad numbers up.
All of this, running hand in hand with a relatively prudent wage bill. (By PL standards at least).
A sharp contrast to their M23 rivals down the road.
Crystal Palace have completely forgotten who they are after a few years of Premier League security. The old Palace would have never been arrogant enough to allow players like Zaha to run their contracts down just to prove a point.
The old Palace would have never allowed their wages-income ratio to shoot up from 74% to an eye-watering 94%.
posted on 29/1/23
In fairness to Palace, the old Palace wouldn’t have signed so many players under 25 and revamped their academy. They’ve had to have a rethink so that they can sustainably stay in the league and make money off development of young talent.
posted on 29/1/23
The sad thing about modern day football is no matter how well they do, soon they will crash back down to earth.
No chance of them solidifying their position and becoming an established top half PL side.
posted on 29/1/23
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
In fairness to Palace, the old Palace wouldn’t have signed so many players under 25 and revamped their academy. They’ve had to have a rethink so that they can sustainably stay in the league and make money off development of young talent.
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All good points. But the resulting hike in their wage bill pretty much means that every season is like a game of Russian roulette.
One bad season, and they would be stuck with a problem that even the parachute payments wouldn't be able to solve.
And the Zaha business runs the risk of setting a very bad precedent for the rest of the side. Just look at Arsenal. The past few years have seen a number of players turn the club into complete mugs when it comes to selling players.
posted on 29/1/23
Haven’t they been pretty high up on wages to turnover for years anyway? I think one of their problems is old, higher earners that they can’t really sell. Which is why they’ve let so many contracts run down and looked to reinvigorate the squad with younger players gradually.
I think the Zaha case is pretty unique. They’ve been so reliant on him to keep them up that his value was far above what anyone would pay. We also had a massive sell on clause in the contract that contributed to that.
They’ve got a lot of old players out of contract this summer. That will reduce the wage bill massively. If they go down next season they’ll probably be in much better shape to come back up because of this, especially if they invest in some more talented young players.
They’re really looking to make their academy an important part of the club again. They’ve invested a lot in the training complex and I believe bigger contracts because they keep getting facked by Chelsea hoovering up all the talent.
posted on 29/1/23
Being a Greater London club does seem to be a bit of a nightmare at times.
posted on 29/1/23
It catches up with you in the end as it has with Leicester. A small club has to get every decision right - they have to be perfect. The moment some mistakes are made, or there’s a change at board level, different direction, then it can quickly unravel.
Brighton are effectively the new Leicester (but without the trophies) and they’re a well run club with a very good recruitment team. Europe will probably be the start of their downfall however - was for us, you end up having to spend more for squad depth and that’s where FFP gets you.
The whole of the PL is so rigged towards the financially rich clubs, enabled by FFP, that in the end a super league will probably have felt like a good idea
posted on 29/1/23
Gillespie, the new academy rules have facked a lot of smaller clubs over really.
posted on 29/1/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 29 minutes ago
The sad thing about modern day football is no matter how well they do, soon they will crash back down to earth.
No chance of them solidifying their position and becoming an established top half PL side.
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This. It never lasts. The financially doped and mega rich will always win out and in the end the gap will be insurmountable between the new top 6 and the rest of the PL
posted on 29/1/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 38 minutes ago
The sad thing about modern day football is no matter how well they do, soon they will crash back down to earth.
No chance of them solidifying their position and becoming an established top half PL side.
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Agree. Seen it all before. Wolves, Burnley. Now Fulham and Brighton. It only ever lasts a season or two.
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