comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
But Ndombele doesn’t have the physical attributes to become a machine. There’s limitations to what can be achieved there. But obviously the bigger issue is his mentality, and Conte and Mourinho are superior managers to Pochettino in harnessing a player’s mentality, and they couldn’t manage it because he obviously doesn’t have it.
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This analysis of Ndombele is about as silly as they come.
The guy's problem was very simple...he is stupid.
He has talent on the ball. But no ability to think.
He went back to France and did the same thing there, and disappeared into oblivion. Played absolutely no role in the French national squad Deschamps didn't go near him. He is now history. A stupid player who didn't ever make it, not because he lacked football talent, but because he is just dumb stupid.
Well yeah but that’s the point. I think it’s a cop out to reduce Ndombele’s inability to forge a career at Spurs down to a failure to work with Pochettino.
It’s a shame because he’s a fun player to watch. One of the things I dislike about modern football is that lazy mavericks can fall by the wayside. But it’s the case whether the manager is defensive in his approach or attacking. Sadly the physical demand and attention to detail tactically are so much higher than they used to be.
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 9 minutes ago
And for the Nth time....do any of you ITK's know what Spurs are planning to do with Oliver Skipp?
Lets talk about players we actual have in house right now!
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He played in the cup the other day and looked decent, he won't be going anywhere.
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Good. I didn't see that PNE match. Glad to hear it...he has talent and I hope he gets back to where he was before injury.
Thanks for the update, Bales
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well yeah but that’s the point. I think it’s a cop out to reduce Ndombele’s inability to forge a career at Spurs down to a failure to work with Pochettino.
It’s a shame because he’s a fun player to watch. One of the things I dislike about modern football is that lazy mavericks can fall by the wayside. But it’s the case whether the manager is defensive in his approach or attacking. Sadly the physical demand and attention to detail tactically are so much higher than they used to be.
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Not sure anyone is saying it's that cut and dried tbf. Plenty of factors. Pochettino being one, Mourinho being another, the pandemic coming right after he moved to England too, and obviously the player himself.
Might never have worked out anyway but not much more could've gone wrong as it did turn out
Ultimately it always come down to the player. Football is a brutal industry, one of the few meritocracies around, but their destiny is in their own hands.
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 8 minutes ago
And for the Nth time....do any of you ITK's know what Spurs are planning to do with Oliver Skipp?
Lets talk about players we actual have in house right now!
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There are no ITK's on here. Do you fancy Skipp or something?
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I will explain it to you ..... the club is buying nobody for defense this January. Much to the dismay of Sandy and others like myself who would like to see our defence bolstered.
So the way forward will be for our midfield to be strong enough to protect our measly defence. Skipp, in the past before injury was one of our best midfielders, capable of turn defence into attack.
And then he got injured, and come back was slow. I was hoping he will regain his previous form because we badly need midfielders like that.
Especially with Son being on the blink, and Kane out sick.
Now, Bales who understands these things that you do not, hs informed me of Skipp's progress in the PNE match.
So I'm happy.
And you are now informed.
But you asked what are we planning with Skipp? He hasn't answered your question. Best to assume he is part of the squad but needs to out perform Bentancur, PEK, Bissouma and Sarr to have a chance of a regular start. He will be on the bench for the forseeable future.
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
But you asked what are we planning with Skipp? He hasn't answered your question. Best to assume he is part of the squad but needs to out perform Bentancur, PEK, Bissouma and Sarr to have a chance of a regular start. He will be on the bench for the forseeable future.
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He gave a damned better answer than you did
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 8 hours, 56 minutes ago
What are we doing with Skipp?
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Hopefully moving on.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Glad this is just a loan for Gil without an option. Assuming Conte is gone at the end of the season, it gives Gil one last chance in preseason with a different manager.
The only concerns are the reports he hates England and the lifestyle. That could just be how he’s feeling because he’s not getting a game. If he played more, he’d settle easier.
From the bits I’ve seen of him this season, I genuinely think we’ve got a little Bernardo Silva on our hands and it would be an effin joke if he were let go before he could flourish.
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LOL. The only one assuming Conte is gone is you.
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
That’s not true. Ndombele was more than Bruno, but Poch wanted Ndombele and one of Bruno and Lo Celso, and he chose Lo Celso. Both ended up being poor signings that have hamstrung Spurs for a number of years.
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Agreed, both Ndombele and Lo Celso were just another two of a long list of disastrous Pochettino signings. He purchased some right duds when he was in charge. It's taken three or four seasons just to recover.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
That’s not true. Ndombele was more than Bruno, but Poch wanted Ndombele and one of Bruno and Lo Celso, and he chose Lo Celso. Both ended up being poor signings that have hamstrung Spurs for a number of years.
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Agreed, both Ndombele and Lo Celso were just another two of a long list of disastrous Pochettino signings. He purchased some right duds when he was in charge. It's taken three or four seasons just to recover.
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You’re a strange guy, talk about loyalty is dead
I’ve never seen a fan of a club spew so much hatred about the greatest manager you’ve ever had since colour TV
So odd
They saying Porro deal off....now if true this is laughable
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
That’s not true. Ndombele was more than Bruno, but Poch wanted Ndombele and one of Bruno and Lo Celso, and he chose Lo Celso. Both ended up being poor signings that have hamstrung Spurs for a number of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, both Ndombele and Lo Celso were just another two of a long list of disastrous Pochettino signings. He purchased some right duds when he was in charge. It's taken three or four seasons just to recover.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re a strange guy, talk about loyalty is dead
I’ve never seen a fan of a club spew so much hatred about the greatest manager you’ve ever had since colour TV
So odd
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That my friend is why alot of my fellow Spurs fans are idiots.
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 13 minutes ago
They saying Porro deal off....now if true this is laughable
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Give it 10 mins and it will be on again, 10 mins after that it will be off again, 10 mins after that it will be on again - I’m not ITK, but I wouldn’t listen to the 99% of utter bullschitt that floats around transfers in the final 48 hours of windows
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
That’s not true. Ndombele was more than Bruno, but Poch wanted Ndombele and one of Bruno and Lo Celso, and he chose Lo Celso. Both ended up being poor signings that have hamstrung Spurs for a number of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, both Ndombele and Lo Celso were just another two of a long list of disastrous Pochettino signings. He purchased some right duds when he was in charge. It's taken three or four seasons just to recover.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re a strange guy, talk about loyalty is dead
I’ve never seen a fan of a club spew so much hatred about the greatest manager you’ve ever had since colour TV
So odd
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That my friend is why alot of my fellow Spurs fans are idiots.
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Hello Pot, meet Mr Kettle
Porro deal is off apparently
Ted, the Injury Skipp suffered would seem to have been a big one, he has def lost sharpness - a loan for him to a Prem club might be hugely beneficial in my opinion, but currently he is def behind Bentancur, Bissouma and PEH
comment by Meet her at the love parade (U6468)
posted 1 minute ago
Porro deal is off apparently
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Like is said, give it ten mins
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Meet her at the love parade (U6468)
posted 1 minute ago
Porro deal is off apparently
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Like is said, give it ten mins
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Going to be fun 48hrs
Levy better run if Porro deal doesn't get done
comment by Meet her at the love parade (U6468)
posted 37 minutes ago
Porro deal is off apparently
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Just seen the Athletic have reported the same.
Dreary me… what a clusterfeck
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
That’s not true. Ndombele was more than Bruno, but Poch wanted Ndombele and one of Bruno and Lo Celso, and he chose Lo Celso. Both ended up being poor signings that have hamstrung Spurs for a number of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, both Ndombele and Lo Celso were just another two of a long list of disastrous Pochettino signings. He purchased some right duds when he was in charge. It's taken three or four seasons just to recover.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re a strange guy, talk about loyalty is dead
I’ve never seen a fan of a club spew so much hatred about the greatest manager you’ve ever had since colour TV
So odd
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LOL I think colour TV was about when Burkenshaw, Venables were managers.
Coming from a supporter that sacks managers on a whim.
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Ted, the Injury Skipp suffered would seem to have been a big one, he has def lost sharpness - a loan for him to a Prem club might be hugely beneficial in my opinion, but currently he is def behind Bentancur, Bissouma and PEH
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Many thanks for that. I did not see the PNE game.
Some said he was okay.
I just wish he'd get back to his original (before injury) form.
Some say the Porro deal is done!!
Sign in if you want to comment
Is backing Conte...
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posted on 29/1/23
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
But Ndombele doesn’t have the physical attributes to become a machine. There’s limitations to what can be achieved there. But obviously the bigger issue is his mentality, and Conte and Mourinho are superior managers to Pochettino in harnessing a player’s mentality, and they couldn’t manage it because he obviously doesn’t have it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This analysis of Ndombele is about as silly as they come.
The guy's problem was very simple...he is stupid.
He has talent on the ball. But no ability to think.
He went back to France and did the same thing there, and disappeared into oblivion. Played absolutely no role in the French national squad Deschamps didn't go near him. He is now history. A stupid player who didn't ever make it, not because he lacked football talent, but because he is just dumb stupid.
posted on 29/1/23
Well yeah but that’s the point. I think it’s a cop out to reduce Ndombele’s inability to forge a career at Spurs down to a failure to work with Pochettino.
It’s a shame because he’s a fun player to watch. One of the things I dislike about modern football is that lazy mavericks can fall by the wayside. But it’s the case whether the manager is defensive in his approach or attacking. Sadly the physical demand and attention to detail tactically are so much higher than they used to be.
posted on 29/1/23
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 9 minutes ago
And for the Nth time....do any of you ITK's know what Spurs are planning to do with Oliver Skipp?
Lets talk about players we actual have in house right now!
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He played in the cup the other day and looked decent, he won't be going anywhere.
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Good. I didn't see that PNE match. Glad to hear it...he has talent and I hope he gets back to where he was before injury.
Thanks for the update, Bales
posted on 29/1/23
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well yeah but that’s the point. I think it’s a cop out to reduce Ndombele’s inability to forge a career at Spurs down to a failure to work with Pochettino.
It’s a shame because he’s a fun player to watch. One of the things I dislike about modern football is that lazy mavericks can fall by the wayside. But it’s the case whether the manager is defensive in his approach or attacking. Sadly the physical demand and attention to detail tactically are so much higher than they used to be.
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Not sure anyone is saying it's that cut and dried tbf. Plenty of factors. Pochettino being one, Mourinho being another, the pandemic coming right after he moved to England too, and obviously the player himself.
Might never have worked out anyway but not much more could've gone wrong as it did turn out
posted on 29/1/23
Ultimately it always come down to the player. Football is a brutal industry, one of the few meritocracies around, but their destiny is in their own hands.
posted on 30/1/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 8 minutes ago
And for the Nth time....do any of you ITK's know what Spurs are planning to do with Oliver Skipp?
Lets talk about players we actual have in house right now!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are no ITK's on here. Do you fancy Skipp or something?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I will explain it to you ..... the club is buying nobody for defense this January. Much to the dismay of Sandy and others like myself who would like to see our defence bolstered.
So the way forward will be for our midfield to be strong enough to protect our measly defence. Skipp, in the past before injury was one of our best midfielders, capable of turn defence into attack.
And then he got injured, and come back was slow. I was hoping he will regain his previous form because we badly need midfielders like that.
Especially with Son being on the blink, and Kane out sick.
Now, Bales who understands these things that you do not, hs informed me of Skipp's progress in the PNE match.
So I'm happy.
And you are now informed.
posted on 30/1/23
But you asked what are we planning with Skipp? He hasn't answered your question. Best to assume he is part of the squad but needs to out perform Bentancur, PEK, Bissouma and Sarr to have a chance of a regular start. He will be on the bench for the forseeable future.
posted on 30/1/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
But you asked what are we planning with Skipp? He hasn't answered your question. Best to assume he is part of the squad but needs to out perform Bentancur, PEK, Bissouma and Sarr to have a chance of a regular start. He will be on the bench for the forseeable future.
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He gave a damned better answer than you did
posted on 30/1/23
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 8 hours, 56 minutes ago
What are we doing with Skipp?
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Hopefully moving on.
posted on 30/1/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Glad this is just a loan for Gil without an option. Assuming Conte is gone at the end of the season, it gives Gil one last chance in preseason with a different manager.
The only concerns are the reports he hates England and the lifestyle. That could just be how he’s feeling because he’s not getting a game. If he played more, he’d settle easier.
From the bits I’ve seen of him this season, I genuinely think we’ve got a little Bernardo Silva on our hands and it would be an effin joke if he were let go before he could flourish.
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LOL. The only one assuming Conte is gone is you.
posted on 30/1/23
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
That’s not true. Ndombele was more than Bruno, but Poch wanted Ndombele and one of Bruno and Lo Celso, and he chose Lo Celso. Both ended up being poor signings that have hamstrung Spurs for a number of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, both Ndombele and Lo Celso were just another two of a long list of disastrous Pochettino signings. He purchased some right duds when he was in charge. It's taken three or four seasons just to recover.
posted on 30/1/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
That’s not true. Ndombele was more than Bruno, but Poch wanted Ndombele and one of Bruno and Lo Celso, and he chose Lo Celso. Both ended up being poor signings that have hamstrung Spurs for a number of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, both Ndombele and Lo Celso were just another two of a long list of disastrous Pochettino signings. He purchased some right duds when he was in charge. It's taken three or four seasons just to recover.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re a strange guy, talk about loyalty is dead
I’ve never seen a fan of a club spew so much hatred about the greatest manager you’ve ever had since colour TV
So odd
posted on 30/1/23
They saying Porro deal off....now if true this is laughable
posted on 30/1/23
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
That’s not true. Ndombele was more than Bruno, but Poch wanted Ndombele and one of Bruno and Lo Celso, and he chose Lo Celso. Both ended up being poor signings that have hamstrung Spurs for a number of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, both Ndombele and Lo Celso were just another two of a long list of disastrous Pochettino signings. He purchased some right duds when he was in charge. It's taken three or four seasons just to recover.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re a strange guy, talk about loyalty is dead
I’ve never seen a fan of a club spew so much hatred about the greatest manager you’ve ever had since colour TV
So odd
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That my friend is why alot of my fellow Spurs fans are idiots.
posted on 30/1/23
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 13 minutes ago
They saying Porro deal off....now if true this is laughable
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Give it 10 mins and it will be on again, 10 mins after that it will be off again, 10 mins after that it will be on again - I’m not ITK, but I wouldn’t listen to the 99% of utter bullschitt that floats around transfers in the final 48 hours of windows
posted on 30/1/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
That’s not true. Ndombele was more than Bruno, but Poch wanted Ndombele and one of Bruno and Lo Celso, and he chose Lo Celso. Both ended up being poor signings that have hamstrung Spurs for a number of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, both Ndombele and Lo Celso were just another two of a long list of disastrous Pochettino signings. He purchased some right duds when he was in charge. It's taken three or four seasons just to recover.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re a strange guy, talk about loyalty is dead
I’ve never seen a fan of a club spew so much hatred about the greatest manager you’ve ever had since colour TV
So odd
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That my friend is why alot of my fellow Spurs fans are idiots.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Pot, meet Mr Kettle
posted on 30/1/23
Porro deal is off apparently
posted on 30/1/23
Ted, the Injury Skipp suffered would seem to have been a big one, he has def lost sharpness - a loan for him to a Prem club might be hugely beneficial in my opinion, but currently he is def behind Bentancur, Bissouma and PEH
posted on 30/1/23
comment by Meet her at the love parade (U6468)
posted 1 minute ago
Porro deal is off apparently
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Like is said, give it ten mins
posted on 30/1/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Meet her at the love parade (U6468)
posted 1 minute ago
Porro deal is off apparently
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Like is said, give it ten mins
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Going to be fun 48hrs
posted on 30/1/23
Levy better run if Porro deal doesn't get done
posted on 30/1/23
comment by Meet her at the love parade (U6468)
posted 37 minutes ago
Porro deal is off apparently
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Just seen the Athletic have reported the same.
Dreary me… what a clusterfeck
posted on 30/1/23
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. It’s Coming Homeeeee! (U12980)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
That’s not true. Ndombele was more than Bruno, but Poch wanted Ndombele and one of Bruno and Lo Celso, and he chose Lo Celso. Both ended up being poor signings that have hamstrung Spurs for a number of years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, both Ndombele and Lo Celso were just another two of a long list of disastrous Pochettino signings. He purchased some right duds when he was in charge. It's taken three or four seasons just to recover.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’re a strange guy, talk about loyalty is dead
I’ve never seen a fan of a club spew so much hatred about the greatest manager you’ve ever had since colour TV
So odd
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LOL I think colour TV was about when Burkenshaw, Venables were managers.
Coming from a supporter that sacks managers on a whim.
posted on 30/1/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Ted, the Injury Skipp suffered would seem to have been a big one, he has def lost sharpness - a loan for him to a Prem club might be hugely beneficial in my opinion, but currently he is def behind Bentancur, Bissouma and PEH
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many thanks for that. I did not see the PNE game.
Some said he was okay.
I just wish he'd get back to his original (before injury) form.
posted on 30/1/23
Some say the Porro deal is done!!
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