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comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 7/3/23

comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same as Conte's, Mourinho's, Nuno's, Jol's, Redknapp's, Sherwood's, Villas-Boas'... All the more reason why it's not a fair stick to beat him with
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So why go back to a failure then? His tenure was just as big of failure and he had more time.

But the minnions will always give you a million excuses Z z z
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How was his tenure just as big a failure? He had us become a regular CL team, got us to a CL final and saw us reach levels of quality in the PL we had never seen before. Compare this to King Jose who came with the reputation of being a proven winner who had won trophies at every club he'd been at, and he failed to get top 4 two times of asking and couldn't win us a trophy.

Strange point of view.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 7/3/23

comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 24 minutes ago
So under which manager did bottle job and Spursy appear then?
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This is something that has marked the Levy era. It most certainly is not down to Poch. Have you forgotten about Chelsea winning the CL to prevent us getting CL, or Lasagnagate, or being 3-0 up to City in the FA Cup and losing 4-3.

All things that happened before Poch.

posted on 7/3/23

comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 minutes ago
The way these things have always worked, particularly at Spurs, is that a manager comes on board, does well, and any friction that occurs means that the Sporting Director is shown the door before the manager. That might not be the right way around but it is the way Levy has acted in the past.

Also you have to factor in that Paratici's control and trust will be depleted in recent months. Corruption and overpaying for Romero to do his mates at Juve a favour will not play well with King Levy. If Pochettino comes in, he'll unquestionably have more power than FP. I can see FP being forced out eventually and replaced by someone who can work more harmoniously with a front foot coach.
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You know we bought Romero from Atalanta and not Juventus right?
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posted on 7/3/23

Amanda Hugginkiss hit the nail on the head with this comment Luka…

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His "failure" was significantly closer to your definition of "success" than the others.
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Sums it all up really. He got us closer than anyone before him under Levy’s restrictions.

posted on 7/3/23

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 minutes ago
The way these things have always worked, particularly at Spurs, is that a manager comes on board, does well, and any friction that occurs means that the Sporting Director is shown the door before the manager. That might not be the right way around but it is the way Levy has acted in the past.

Also you have to factor in that Paratici's control and trust will be depleted in recent months. Corruption and overpaying for Romero to do his mates at Juve a favour will not play well with King Levy. If Pochettino comes in, he'll unquestionably have more power than FP. I can see FP being forced out eventually and replaced by someone who can work more harmoniously with a front foot coach.
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You know we bought Romero from Atalanta and not Juventus right?
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You should read the next few comments in that little debate before laughing buddy. I was right.

posted on 7/3/23

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same as Conte's, Mourinho's, Nuno's, Jol's, Redknapp's, Sherwood's, Villas-Boas'... All the more reason why it's not a fair stick to beat him with
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why go back to a failure then? His tenure was just as big of failure and he had more time.

But the minnions will always give you a million excuses Z z z
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How was his tenure just as big a failure? He had us become a regular CL team, got us to a CL final and saw us reach levels of quality in the PL we had never seen before. Compare this to King Jose who came with the reputation of being a proven winner who had won trophies at every club he'd been at, and he failed to get top 4 two times of asking and couldn't win us a trophy.

Strange point of view.
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this is a skewed view about Poch not winning any trophies but ignoring the giant leap that happened under Poch where Spurs went from an average meh side to an exciting outfit that challenged for the titles and it was in top 3 for 3/4 seasons in a row. These achievements propelled the club to where it is now, with a money making stadium and audience.

For Spurs, that's as good as winning a trophy because it allowed the management to size up the scope of how much money will come through the entertainment whether TV, or otherwise.

Yet all these talk about Poch coming back are irrational. WHy would Poch come back somewhere he was neither backed, respected nor given credit by Levy. Instead fans went against Poch just after CL final blaming him for selecting an unfit Kane. The same fickle fans want him back now.
What is to say these fans who were impatient with a host of managers, including temp home grown one, would they support him if in his first season, hypothetically, he doesn't get us CL or trophy?
Our fans love to argue and love to think they are the best managers yet to be appointed by the club

posted on 7/3/23

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 26 minutes ago
The way these things have always worked, particularly at Spurs, is that a manager comes on board, does well, and any friction that occurs means that the Sporting Director is shown the door before the manager. That might not be the right way around but it is the way Levy has acted in the past.

Also you have to factor in that Paratici's control and trust will be depleted in recent months. Corruption and overpaying for Romero to do his mates at Juve a favour will not play well with King Levy. If Pochettino comes in, he'll unquestionably have more power than FP. I can see FP being forced out eventually and replaced by someone who can work more harmoniously with a front foot coach.
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You know we bought Romero from Atalanta and not Juventus right?
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You should read the next few comments in that little debate before laughing buddy. I was right.
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Jumping the gun "buddy"

again!

posted on 7/3/23

comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 seconds ago
I’m not even dignifying that with a response
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No futher questions your honour.
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https://twitter.com/garyjacob/status/1633159661275975681?s=21

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ you and Sandy are gonna go proper mad and I’m all here for it.

posted on 7/3/23

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 seconds ago
I’m not even dignifying that with a response
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No futher questions your honour.
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https://twitter.com/garyjacob/status/1633159661275975681?s=21

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ you and Sandy are gonna go proper mad and I’m all here for it.
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I think you want Pochettino here just so you can laugh at Sandy’s reaction

posted on 7/3/23

Oh and there’s the link. He’s coming back Fridgeboy. It’s all coming out now.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 7/3/23

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same as Conte's, Mourinho's, Nuno's, Jol's, Redknapp's, Sherwood's, Villas-Boas'... All the more reason why it's not a fair stick to beat him with
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why go back to a failure then? His tenure was just as big of failure and he had more time.

But the minnions will always give you a million excuses Z z z
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How was his tenure just as big a failure? He had us become a regular CL team, got us to a CL final and saw us reach levels of quality in the PL we had never seen before. Compare this to King Jose who came with the reputation of being a proven winner who had won trophies at every club he'd been at, and he failed to get top 4 two times of asking and couldn't win us a trophy.

Strange point of view.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
this is a skewed view about Poch not winning any trophies but ignoring the giant leap that happened under Poch where Spurs went from an average meh side to an exciting outfit that challenged for the titles and it was in top 3 for 3/4 seasons in a row. These achievements propelled the club to where it is now, with a money making stadium and audience.

For Spurs, that's as good as winning a trophy because it allowed the management to size up the scope of how much money will come through the entertainment whether TV, or otherwise.

Yet all these talk about Poch coming back are irrational. WHy would Poch come back somewhere he was neither backed, respected nor given credit by Levy. Instead fans went against Poch just after CL final blaming him for selecting an unfit Kane. The same fickle fans want him back now.
What is to say these fans who were impatient with a host of managers, including temp home grown one, would they support him if in his first season, hypothetically, he doesn't get us CL or trophy?
Our fans love to argue and love to think they are the best managers yet to be appointed by the club

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch did such a good job he's made some fans forget that we weren't this consistent top 4 and CL competing side before he came in it seems.

He might have done better at certain stages but the praise should always outweigh the criticism when it comes to Poch for any true Spurs fan, and the things he got wrong can be countered with issues that came from above him.

If fans are knocking him for his lack of silverware, then hell, why not just demand we get Ramos back?

posted on 7/3/23

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 seconds ago
I’m not even dignifying that with a response
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No futher questions your honour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------



https://twitter.com/garyjacob/status/1633159661275975681?s=21

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ you and Sandy are gonna go proper mad and I’m all here for it.
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Not really. I will always back the manager no matter who he is. Of course he wants the job. But I wonder if he wants it too much and that may cost him.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 7/3/23

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 seconds ago
I’m not even dignifying that with a response
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No futher questions your honour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------



https://twitter.com/garyjacob/status/1633159661275975681?s=21

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ you and Sandy are gonna go proper mad and I’m all here for it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


I think you want Pochettino here just so you can laugh at Sandy’s reaction
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I bet you if Poch comes back and we start doing well, rather than give credit to Poch, Sandy will just give credit to Levy for appointing him.

posted on 7/3/23

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 seconds ago
I’m not even dignifying that with a response
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No futher questions your honour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------



https://twitter.com/garyjacob/status/1633159661275975681?s=21

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ you and Sandy are gonna go proper mad and I’m all here for it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


I think you want Pochettino here just so you can laugh at Sandy’s reaction
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I bet you if Poch comes back and we start doing well, rather than give credit to Poch, Sandy will just give credit to Levy for appointing him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He'll come out with some crazy angle to somehow deflect from his history of anti Poch sentiments.

I think probably he will just beat Poch with the no trophy stick, even before the season is finished. If Poch can somehow win us a trophy, Sandy's body will melt like a wicked witch.

posted on 7/3/23

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 seconds ago
I’m not even dignifying that with a response
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No futher questions your honour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------



https://twitter.com/garyjacob/status/1633159661275975681?s=21

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ you and Sandy are gonna go proper mad and I’m all here for it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


I think you want Pochettino here just so you can laugh at Sandy’s reaction
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100% πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

posted on 7/3/23

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 29 minutes ago
Oh and there’s the link. He’s coming back Fridgeboy. It’s all coming out now.
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🀞

posted on 7/3/23

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ At this stage, if it’s not Poch, I’m gonna get absolute pelters from Sandy and Luka but that’s fair game. It’s only a laugh.

posted on 7/3/23

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same as Conte's, Mourinho's, Nuno's, Jol's, Redknapp's, Sherwood's, Villas-Boas'... All the more reason why it's not a fair stick to beat him with
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why go back to a failure then? His tenure was just as big of failure and he had more time.

But the minnions will always give you a million excuses Z z z
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How was his tenure just as big a failure? He had us become a regular CL team, got us to a CL final and saw us reach levels of quality in the PL we had never seen before. Compare this to King Jose who came with the reputation of being a proven winner who had won trophies at every club he'd been at, and he failed to get top 4 two times of asking and couldn't win us a trophy.

Strange point of view.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
this is a skewed view about Poch not winning any trophies but ignoring the giant leap that happened under Poch where Spurs went from an average meh side to an exciting outfit that challenged for the titles and it was in top 3 for 3/4 seasons in a row. These achievements propelled the club to where it is now, with a money making stadium and audience.

For Spurs, that's as good as winning a trophy because it allowed the management to size up the scope of how much money will come through the entertainment whether TV, or otherwise.

Yet all these talk about Poch coming back are irrational. WHy would Poch come back somewhere he was neither backed, respected nor given credit by Levy. Instead fans went against Poch just after CL final blaming him for selecting an unfit Kane. The same fickle fans want him back now.
What is to say these fans who were impatient with a host of managers, including temp home grown one, would they support him if in his first season, hypothetically, he doesn't get us CL or trophy?
Our fans love to argue and love to think they are the best managers yet to be appointed by the club

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch did such a good job he's made some fans forget that we weren't this consistent top 4 and CL competing side before he came in it seems.

He might have done better at certain stages but the praise should always outweigh the criticism when it comes to Poch for any true Spurs fan, and the things he got wrong can be countered with issues that came from above him.

If fans are knocking him for his lack of silverware, then hell, why not just demand we get Ramos back?
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exactly how I feel Spurtle

Couldn't believe those years with Poch I got so used us being not top 4 side backend then with Poch, not only we started to smash a few myths but we played some superb football too

Then we lose a CL final and some on here turned against Poch

Too many negative comments and feelings for him, to be considering us again.

You can't undo those comments by some fans, even boos in terraces...I would love to him back, but I think if he were to turn us down, it would be what we deserve.

posted on 7/3/23

faaaaaaaaaaack me guv, can't put type anymore

posted on 7/3/23

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 12 minutes ago
πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ At this stage, if it’s not Poch, I’m gonna get absolute pelters from Sandy and Luka but that’s fair game. It’s only a laugh.
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where is Sandy then?

posted on 7/3/23

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same as Conte's, Mourinho's, Nuno's, Jol's, Redknapp's, Sherwood's, Villas-Boas'... All the more reason why it's not a fair stick to beat him with
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why go back to a failure then? His tenure was just as big of failure and he had more time.

But the minnions will always give you a million excuses Z z z
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How was his tenure just as big a failure? He had us become a regular CL team, got us to a CL final and saw us reach levels of quality in the PL we had never seen before. Compare this to King Jose who came with the reputation of being a proven winner who had won trophies at every club he'd been at, and he failed to get top 4 two times of asking and couldn't win us a trophy.

Strange point of view.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
this is a skewed view about Poch not winning any trophies but ignoring the giant leap that happened under Poch where Spurs went from an average meh side to an exciting outfit that challenged for the titles and it was in top 3 for 3/4 seasons in a row. These achievements propelled the club to where it is now, with a money making stadium and audience.

For Spurs, that's as good as winning a trophy because it allowed the management to size up the scope of how much money will come through the entertainment whether TV, or otherwise.

Yet all these talk about Poch coming back are irrational. WHy would Poch come back somewhere he was neither backed, respected nor given credit by Levy. Instead fans went against Poch just after CL final blaming him for selecting an unfit Kane. The same fickle fans want him back now.
What is to say these fans who were impatient with a host of managers, including temp home grown one, would they support him if in his first season, hypothetically, he doesn't get us CL or trophy?
Our fans love to argue and love to think they are the best managers yet to be appointed by the club

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch did such a good job he's made some fans forget that we weren't this consistent top 4 and CL competing side before he came in it seems.

He might have done better at certain stages but the praise should always outweigh the criticism when it comes to Poch for any true Spurs fan, and the things he got wrong can be countered with issues that came from above him.

If fans are knocking him for his lack of silverware, then hell, why not just demand we get Ramos back?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Surely that's not the debate, though - Poch vs other previous managers. If we're seriously considering Poch it should be him vs someone similar to who he was when we hired him. Someone like Frank who's got a PL team overperforming and playing decent football

posted on 7/3/23

I can’t believe the negativity around Poch coming back from a few posters ….it’s staggering

Why he is being judged on a few games (yes some big moments) but what he delivered for most of his tenure is forgotten (yes the end was bad but it was obvious he was so fed up)

I think if he is appointed in the next week or so the new manager bounce and feel good factor could be top 4 ….it’s not the be all and end all and we all want a trophy but it’s what’s left this season (we aren’t winning the champs league) but if the current set up continues top 4 isn’t happening

Yeah it could all go to shat or it could be great again but right now it’s going to shat anyway

Right now I don’t know what we need but I do know it isn’t conte and I’m willing to back someone who transformed us once to see if he can do it again

posted on 7/3/23

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 12 minutes ago
πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ At this stage, if it’s not Poch, I’m gonna get absolute pelters from Sandy and Luka but that’s fair game. It’s only a laugh.
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where is Sandy then?
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Hibernating. He does this occasionally to protect his ego, forms a chrysalis and comes back as an ugly moth that slams himself repeatedly into a metaphorical lightbulb.

posted on 7/3/23

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 12 minutes ago
πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ At this stage, if it’s not Poch, I’m gonna get absolute pelters from Sandy and Luka but that’s fair game. It’s only a laugh.
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where is Sandy then?
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Hibernating. He does this occasionally to protect his ego, forms a chrysalis and comes back as an ugly moth that slams himself repeatedly into a metaphorical lightbulb.
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Yep. Hibernates for a few weeks and when nobody is talking about him, then creates a few sock accounts conveniently mentioning Sandy, but at same time saying “I’m not him” despite user created 1 hour before

posted on 7/3/23

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