People keep saying with regards to Spurs "reset, spin and repeat" well this board is like that.
No matter what the topic heading we know that strike, billy and a few others will be there with their anti enic agenda.
Guess what I fecking hate celery but I dont tell my mrs that every day, just a couple of times was enough for her to get the message.
Whether you like ENIC or not does not matter one fecking iota they own the club and thats that. Calling Levy the bald khunt was possibly funny the first 50 times you posted it but now the "joke" is as boring as ENIC's ownership of THFC.
Its getting to the stage where I have changed my opinions about why I want ENIC gone. It used to be because I thought with better owners we would have a better club now its because if ENIC go you will shut the feck up for gods sake.
Devonshire posts regularly but at least he thinks about what he posts and his opinions are worth reading even if I dont always agree with them.
We have got the fecking message YOU DONT LIKE ENIC. ENIC are responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened to THFC. They probably have a major hand in global fecking warming as well but when you eventually realise that cutting and posting the same crap day in day out will change nothing then you might actually stop being boring feckers. Shame really cos Billy's posts were always worth reading until he went OTT on the ENIC situation.
Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
Everyone new, by definition, comes with risk, including Poch. You have to find a balance and weigh up those risk factors against their reputation and previous records. If you apply the risk factor, I'd say Poch represents the least risky move purely on the basis that ultimately the biggest test is how these managers deal with the budgetary constraints and stubbornness of the owner. To anyone new, that's where the problems occur. It's what ultimately led to the downfall of Jose and Conte. To Poch, it's not like that. He knows Levy. He knows the frustrations. Like I said before, if you were to remove the emotional connection to Poch, he'd still, on paper, probably be the best candidate. Good football, coaches players well, trusts in youth, knows the club, understands the owners restrictions. He's the least risky of them all. The only downside, and I admit, it's a significant one, is that he's been here before so will he mentally come at it with a level of freshness someone new would? Maybe, maybe not. One things for sure though. That would concern me less than anyone new coming in learning of ENIC's process.
It's not just me that said that. I've heard several journo's at The Athletic say similar. Strip back the emotion and he's probably still the standout manager of the options available. (That said, all of this was discussed prior to Nagelsmann appearing back on the scene).
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 7 minutes ago
People keep saying with regards to Spurs "reset, spin and repeat" well this board is like that.
No matter what the topic heading we know that strike, billy and a few others will be there with their anti enic agenda.
Guess what I fecking hate celery but I dont tell my mrs that every day, just a couple of times was enough for her to get the message.
Whether you like ENIC or not does not matter one fecking iota they own the club and thats that. Calling Levy the bald khunt was possibly funny the first 50 times you posted it but now the "joke" is as boring as ENIC's ownership of THFC.
Its getting to the stage where I have changed my opinions about why I want ENIC gone. It used to be because I thought with better owners we would have a better club now its because if ENIC go you will shut the feck up for gods sake.
Devonshire posts regularly but at least he thinks about what he posts and his opinions are worth reading even if I dont always agree with them.
We have got the fecking message YOU DONT LIKE ENIC. ENIC are responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened to THFC. They probably have a major hand in global fecking warming as well but when you eventually realise that cutting and posting the same crap day in day out will change nothing then you might actually stop being boring feckers. Shame really cos Billy's posts were always worth reading until he went OTT on the ENIC situation.
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ENICOUT!!
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posted 37 seconds ago
Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
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Come on. Don't fall for the bookies bro!
"Its getting to the stage where I have changed my opinions about why I want ENIC gone. It used to be because I thought with better owners we would have a better club now its because if ENIC go you will shut the feck up for gods sake."
Grandspurs
Take a bow, quote of the day for me.
Billy is behaving like an anti-Levy bot these days. It's just the same comment over and over again. At least with Dev there's some variation.
Take a bow, quote of the day for me.
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well ffs its worse than don during a transfer window
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posted 6 minutes ago
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posted 37 seconds ago
Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
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Come on. Don't fall for the bookies bro!
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Yep, it's meaningless. It just means Spurs fans are reacting to the JN sacking by piling money on him.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Everyone new, by definition, comes with risk, including Poch. You have to find a balance and weigh up those risk factors against their reputation and previous records. If you apply the risk factor, I'd say Poch represents the least risky move purely on the basis that ultimately the biggest test is how these managers deal with the budgetary constraints and stubbornness of the owner. To anyone new, that's where the problems occur. It's what ultimately led to the downfall of Jose and Conte. To Poch, it's not like that. He knows Levy. He knows the frustrations. Like I said before, if you were to remove the emotional connection to Poch, he'd still, on paper, probably be the best candidate. Good football, coaches players well, trusts in youth, knows the club, understands the owners restrictions. He's the least risky of them all. The only downside, and I admit, it's a significant one, is that he's been here before so will he mentally come at it with a level of freshness someone new would? Maybe, maybe not. One things for sure though. That would concern me less than anyone new coming in learning of ENIC's process.
It's not just me that said that. I've heard several journo's at The Athletic say similar. Strip back the emotion and he's probably still the standout manager of the options available. (That said, all of this was discussed prior to Nagelsmann appearing back on the scene).
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I saw Jack Pitt-Brooke wrote an article about why they were wrong about Conte. Journos know f all mate.
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posted 22 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Everyone new, by definition, comes with risk, including Poch. You have to find a balance and weigh up those risk factors against their reputation and previous records. If you apply the risk factor, I'd say Poch represents the least risky move purely on the basis that ultimately the biggest test is how these managers deal with the budgetary constraints and stubbornness of the owner. To anyone new, that's where the problems occur. It's what ultimately led to the downfall of Jose and Conte. To Poch, it's not like that. He knows Levy. He knows the frustrations. Like I said before, if you were to remove the emotional connection to Poch, he'd still, on paper, probably be the best candidate. Good football, coaches players well, trusts in youth, knows the club, understands the owners restrictions. He's the least risky of them all. The only downside, and I admit, it's a significant one, is that he's been here before so will he mentally come at it with a level of freshness someone new would? Maybe, maybe not. One things for sure though. That would concern me less than anyone new coming in learning of ENIC's process.
It's not just me that said that. I've heard several journo's at The Athletic say similar. Strip back the emotion and he's probably still the standout manager of the options available. (That said, all of this was discussed prior to Nagelsmann appearing back on the scene).
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I saw Jack Pitt-Brooke wrote an article about why they were wrong about Conte. Journos know f all mate.
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True, they're the same as us but they're a little more rational with their reasoning. For instance, I've heard so many people say about Poch "it won't work" or "never go back" but not many had said that whilst those concerns were valid, he's still on paper the right candidate. Journo's don't let emotion cloud their judgement quite so much. They recognise the risks with Poch, whilst also balancing it with the positives of having someone like that back on board when what we need right now more than anything else is a few smiles on faces again. The one thing we do know about the Poch effect is it will have an enormously positive affect on the fanbase immediately. I'm not sure your Slot's or Amorim's will be able to do the same.
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posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 37 seconds ago
Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
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Come on. Don't fall for the bookies bro!
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Yep, it's meaningless. It just means Spurs fans are reacting to the JN sacking by piling money on him.
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Doesn’t go from 25/1 to 8/11 in 24hrs without some element of substance though.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Everyone new, by definition, comes with risk, including Poch. You have to find a balance and weigh up those risk factors against their reputation and previous records. If you apply the risk factor, I'd say Poch represents the least risky move purely on the basis that ultimately the biggest test is how these managers deal with the budgetary constraints and stubbornness of the owner. To anyone new, that's where the problems occur. It's what ultimately led to the downfall of Jose and Conte. To Poch, it's not like that. He knows Levy. He knows the frustrations. Like I said before, if you were to remove the emotional connection to Poch, he'd still, on paper, probably be the best candidate. Good football, coaches players well, trusts in youth, knows the club, understands the owners restrictions. He's the least risky of them all. The only downside, and I admit, it's a significant one, is that he's been here before so will he mentally come at it with a level of freshness someone new would? Maybe, maybe not. One things for sure though. That would concern me less than anyone new coming in learning of ENIC's process.
It's not just me that said that. I've heard several journo's at The Athletic say similar. Strip back the emotion and he's probably still the standout manager of the options available. (That said, all of this was discussed prior to Nagelsmann appearing back on the scene).
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I saw Jack Pitt-Brooke wrote an article about why they were wrong about Conte. Journos know f all mate.
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True, they're the same as us but they're a little more rational with their reasoning. For instance, I've heard so many people say about Poch "it won't work" or "never go back" but not many had said that whilst those concerns were valid, he's still on paper the right candidate. Journo's don't let emotion cloud their judgement quite so much. They recognise the risks with Poch, whilst also balancing it with the positives of having someone like that back on board when what we need right now more than anything else is a few smiles on faces again. The one thing we do know about the Poch effect is it will have an enormously positive affect on the fanbase immediately. I'm not sure your Slot's or Amorim's will be able to do the same.
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The one thing we do know about the Poch effect is it will have an enormously positive affect on the fanbase immediately.
Who cares? I want to us win games. End of.
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 37 seconds ago
Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
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Come on. Don't fall for the bookies bro!
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Yep, it's meaningless. It just means Spurs fans are reacting to the JN sacking by piling money on him.
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Doesn’t go from 25/1 to 8/11 in 24hrs without some element of substance though.
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It can do. All it takes is news of the sacking and then a couple of comments from someone like Paul O'Keefe saying "Levy is a big fan of Nagelsmann" alongside similar journalistic guesswork and then you have an army of spurs fans lumping wads of cash on it. The bookmakers don't know anything we don't know. The odds just shorten based on the amount of bets placed.
For what it's worth I don't think that's where the smart money is anyway. He's not going to jump on the Spurs job straight away. Earliest we'll get him is in the summer meaning we'll probably have to have Mason in place first. Let's face it, if it is between Poch and JN then we're gonna have to take on the ugly bird the good-looking mate in Madrid turned down.
Poch would be the sensible appointment for a number of reasons one of the main ones being that because of who he is he would get shown a bit more patience by the fanbase.
I know its the most sensible but I am not convinced the 2nd time around is a good idea.
Love this 😂😂😂
https://twitter.com/thfcns/status/1639284366131036160?s=21
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posted 12 minutes ago
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Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
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Come on. Don't fall for the bookies bro!
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Yep, it's meaningless. It just means Spurs fans are reacting to the JN sacking by piling money on him.
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Doesn’t go from 25/1 to 8/11 in 24hrs without some element of substance though.
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It can do. All it takes is news of the sacking and then a couple of comments from someone like Paul O'Keefe saying "Levy is a big fan of Nagelsmann" alongside similar journalistic guesswork and then you have an army of spurs fans lumping wads of cash on it. The bookmakers don't know anything we don't know. The odds just shorten based on the amount of bets placed.
For what it's worth I don't think that's where the smart money is anyway. He's not going to jump on the Spurs job straight away. Earliest we'll get him is in the summer meaning we'll probably have to have Mason in place first. Let's face it, if it is between Poch and JN then we're gonna have to take on the ugly bird the good-looking mate in Madrid turned down.
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We have 10 games left for the season. If Mason takes charge so be it
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 9 minutes ago
Poch would be the sensible appointment for a number of reasons one of the main ones being that because of who he is he would get shown a bit more patience by the fanbase.
I know its the most sensible but I am not convinced the 2nd time around is a good idea.
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Agreed there are risks but there are with Nagelsmann too. By all accounts he fell out with a few players and the entire board at Bayern, largely down to his enormous ego. If that is the case then how is he going to find it working under Levy. I'm hoping it was the pressure of working for such a huge club that made him buckle. At Spurs he wouldn't feel it as much and he'd definitely be afforded time just as he was at Leipzig. Another issue is that he's apparently fiercely ambitious so it could be another 2 year stint before he's courted elsewhere. That's the issue with up and coming managers. At least those at the top who have tried and failed (sort of), like Poch, won't be so eager to jump ship.
At least those at the top who have tried and failed (sort of), like Poch, won't be so eager to jump ship.
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I agree completely with your reasoning. Poch had no big ties to any other UK club and developed an afffinity with SPurs which I think meant a lot. He was with us 5 years instead of 12 months and done a lot of good.
Pool had most of their success when they promoted managers from within whose life was the club and it does make a difference. The problem is we have not had a player like that with that sort of dedication or love for the club since Bill Nick.
I would also be concerned that he was second in the german league with Bayern. I thought they just gave Bayern the trophy at the beginning of the season nowadays
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 9 minutes ago
Poch would be the sensible appointment for a number of reasons one of the main ones being that because of who he is he would get shown a bit more patience by the fanbase.
I know its the most sensible but I am not convinced the 2nd time around is a good idea.
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Agreed there are risks but there are with Nagelsmann too. By all accounts he fell out with a few players and the entire board at Bayern, largely down to his enormous ego. If that is the case then how is he going to find it working under Levy. I'm hoping it was the pressure of working for such a huge club that made him buckle. At Spurs he wouldn't feel it as much and he'd definitely be afforded time just as he was at Leipzig. Another issue is that he's apparently fiercely ambitious so it could be another 2 year stint before he's courted elsewhere. That's the issue with up and coming managers. At least those at the top who have tried and failed (sort of), like Poch, won't be so eager to jump ship.
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Yeah that's not a good reference for JN. One thing that bugged me was that pic of him riding a scooter or a skateboard into the Bayern training ground last season.
Trying to be some cool hipster. Grow up and drive a car mate.
Trying to be some cool hipster. Grow up and drive a car mate.
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Just as I was about to go out on one of my motorbikes as well
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Trying to be some cool hipster. Grow up and drive a car mate.
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Just as I was about to go out on one of my motorbikes as well
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Just as I was about to go out on one of my motorbikes as well
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As it happens I was being serious I have 6 bikes and ride regularly
https://twitter.com/thespurswatch/status/1639290559427665925?s=21
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posted 4 minutes ago
Just as I was about to go out on one of my motorbikes as well
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As it happens I was being serious I have 6 bikes and ride regularly
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posted on 24/3/23
People keep saying with regards to Spurs "reset, spin and repeat" well this board is like that.
No matter what the topic heading we know that strike, billy and a few others will be there with their anti enic agenda.
Guess what I fecking hate celery but I dont tell my mrs that every day, just a couple of times was enough for her to get the message.
Whether you like ENIC or not does not matter one fecking iota they own the club and thats that. Calling Levy the bald khunt was possibly funny the first 50 times you posted it but now the "joke" is as boring as ENIC's ownership of THFC.
Its getting to the stage where I have changed my opinions about why I want ENIC gone. It used to be because I thought with better owners we would have a better club now its because if ENIC go you will shut the feck up for gods sake.
Devonshire posts regularly but at least he thinks about what he posts and his opinions are worth reading even if I dont always agree with them.
We have got the fecking message YOU DONT LIKE ENIC. ENIC are responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened to THFC. They probably have a major hand in global fecking warming as well but when you eventually realise that cutting and posting the same crap day in day out will change nothing then you might actually stop being boring feckers. Shame really cos Billy's posts were always worth reading until he went OTT on the ENIC situation.
posted on 24/3/23
Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
posted on 24/3/23
Everyone new, by definition, comes with risk, including Poch. You have to find a balance and weigh up those risk factors against their reputation and previous records. If you apply the risk factor, I'd say Poch represents the least risky move purely on the basis that ultimately the biggest test is how these managers deal with the budgetary constraints and stubbornness of the owner. To anyone new, that's where the problems occur. It's what ultimately led to the downfall of Jose and Conte. To Poch, it's not like that. He knows Levy. He knows the frustrations. Like I said before, if you were to remove the emotional connection to Poch, he'd still, on paper, probably be the best candidate. Good football, coaches players well, trusts in youth, knows the club, understands the owners restrictions. He's the least risky of them all. The only downside, and I admit, it's a significant one, is that he's been here before so will he mentally come at it with a level of freshness someone new would? Maybe, maybe not. One things for sure though. That would concern me less than anyone new coming in learning of ENIC's process.
It's not just me that said that. I've heard several journo's at The Athletic say similar. Strip back the emotion and he's probably still the standout manager of the options available. (That said, all of this was discussed prior to Nagelsmann appearing back on the scene).
posted on 24/3/23
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 7 minutes ago
People keep saying with regards to Spurs "reset, spin and repeat" well this board is like that.
No matter what the topic heading we know that strike, billy and a few others will be there with their anti enic agenda.
Guess what I fecking hate celery but I dont tell my mrs that every day, just a couple of times was enough for her to get the message.
Whether you like ENIC or not does not matter one fecking iota they own the club and thats that. Calling Levy the bald khunt was possibly funny the first 50 times you posted it but now the "joke" is as boring as ENIC's ownership of THFC.
Its getting to the stage where I have changed my opinions about why I want ENIC gone. It used to be because I thought with better owners we would have a better club now its because if ENIC go you will shut the feck up for gods sake.
Devonshire posts regularly but at least he thinks about what he posts and his opinions are worth reading even if I dont always agree with them.
We have got the fecking message YOU DONT LIKE ENIC. ENIC are responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened to THFC. They probably have a major hand in global fecking warming as well but when you eventually realise that cutting and posting the same crap day in day out will change nothing then you might actually stop being boring feckers. Shame really cos Billy's posts were always worth reading until he went OTT on the ENIC situation.
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ENICOUT!!
posted on 24/3/23
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 37 seconds ago
Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
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Come on. Don't fall for the bookies bro!
posted on 24/3/23
"Its getting to the stage where I have changed my opinions about why I want ENIC gone. It used to be because I thought with better owners we would have a better club now its because if ENIC go you will shut the feck up for gods sake."
Grandspurs
Take a bow, quote of the day for me.
Billy is behaving like an anti-Levy bot these days. It's just the same comment over and over again. At least with Dev there's some variation.
posted on 24/3/23
Take a bow, quote of the day for me.
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well ffs its worse than don during a transfer window
posted on 24/3/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 37 seconds ago
Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
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Come on. Don't fall for the bookies bro!
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Yep, it's meaningless. It just means Spurs fans are reacting to the JN sacking by piling money on him.
posted on 24/3/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Everyone new, by definition, comes with risk, including Poch. You have to find a balance and weigh up those risk factors against their reputation and previous records. If you apply the risk factor, I'd say Poch represents the least risky move purely on the basis that ultimately the biggest test is how these managers deal with the budgetary constraints and stubbornness of the owner. To anyone new, that's where the problems occur. It's what ultimately led to the downfall of Jose and Conte. To Poch, it's not like that. He knows Levy. He knows the frustrations. Like I said before, if you were to remove the emotional connection to Poch, he'd still, on paper, probably be the best candidate. Good football, coaches players well, trusts in youth, knows the club, understands the owners restrictions. He's the least risky of them all. The only downside, and I admit, it's a significant one, is that he's been here before so will he mentally come at it with a level of freshness someone new would? Maybe, maybe not. One things for sure though. That would concern me less than anyone new coming in learning of ENIC's process.
It's not just me that said that. I've heard several journo's at The Athletic say similar. Strip back the emotion and he's probably still the standout manager of the options available. (That said, all of this was discussed prior to Nagelsmann appearing back on the scene).
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I saw Jack Pitt-Brooke wrote an article about why they were wrong about Conte. Journos know f all mate.
posted on 24/3/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Everyone new, by definition, comes with risk, including Poch. You have to find a balance and weigh up those risk factors against their reputation and previous records. If you apply the risk factor, I'd say Poch represents the least risky move purely on the basis that ultimately the biggest test is how these managers deal with the budgetary constraints and stubbornness of the owner. To anyone new, that's where the problems occur. It's what ultimately led to the downfall of Jose and Conte. To Poch, it's not like that. He knows Levy. He knows the frustrations. Like I said before, if you were to remove the emotional connection to Poch, he'd still, on paper, probably be the best candidate. Good football, coaches players well, trusts in youth, knows the club, understands the owners restrictions. He's the least risky of them all. The only downside, and I admit, it's a significant one, is that he's been here before so will he mentally come at it with a level of freshness someone new would? Maybe, maybe not. One things for sure though. That would concern me less than anyone new coming in learning of ENIC's process.
It's not just me that said that. I've heard several journo's at The Athletic say similar. Strip back the emotion and he's probably still the standout manager of the options available. (That said, all of this was discussed prior to Nagelsmann appearing back on the scene).
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I saw Jack Pitt-Brooke wrote an article about why they were wrong about Conte. Journos know f all mate.
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True, they're the same as us but they're a little more rational with their reasoning. For instance, I've heard so many people say about Poch "it won't work" or "never go back" but not many had said that whilst those concerns were valid, he's still on paper the right candidate. Journo's don't let emotion cloud their judgement quite so much. They recognise the risks with Poch, whilst also balancing it with the positives of having someone like that back on board when what we need right now more than anything else is a few smiles on faces again. The one thing we do know about the Poch effect is it will have an enormously positive affect on the fanbase immediately. I'm not sure your Slot's or Amorim's will be able to do the same.
posted on 24/3/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 37 seconds ago
Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
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Come on. Don't fall for the bookies bro!
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Yep, it's meaningless. It just means Spurs fans are reacting to the JN sacking by piling money on him.
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Doesn’t go from 25/1 to 8/11 in 24hrs without some element of substance though.
posted on 24/3/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
Everyone new, by definition, comes with risk, including Poch. You have to find a balance and weigh up those risk factors against their reputation and previous records. If you apply the risk factor, I'd say Poch represents the least risky move purely on the basis that ultimately the biggest test is how these managers deal with the budgetary constraints and stubbornness of the owner. To anyone new, that's where the problems occur. It's what ultimately led to the downfall of Jose and Conte. To Poch, it's not like that. He knows Levy. He knows the frustrations. Like I said before, if you were to remove the emotional connection to Poch, he'd still, on paper, probably be the best candidate. Good football, coaches players well, trusts in youth, knows the club, understands the owners restrictions. He's the least risky of them all. The only downside, and I admit, it's a significant one, is that he's been here before so will he mentally come at it with a level of freshness someone new would? Maybe, maybe not. One things for sure though. That would concern me less than anyone new coming in learning of ENIC's process.
It's not just me that said that. I've heard several journo's at The Athletic say similar. Strip back the emotion and he's probably still the standout manager of the options available. (That said, all of this was discussed prior to Nagelsmann appearing back on the scene).
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I saw Jack Pitt-Brooke wrote an article about why they were wrong about Conte. Journos know f all mate.
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True, they're the same as us but they're a little more rational with their reasoning. For instance, I've heard so many people say about Poch "it won't work" or "never go back" but not many had said that whilst those concerns were valid, he's still on paper the right candidate. Journo's don't let emotion cloud their judgement quite so much. They recognise the risks with Poch, whilst also balancing it with the positives of having someone like that back on board when what we need right now more than anything else is a few smiles on faces again. The one thing we do know about the Poch effect is it will have an enormously positive affect on the fanbase immediately. I'm not sure your Slot's or Amorim's will be able to do the same.
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The one thing we do know about the Poch effect is it will have an enormously positive affect on the fanbase immediately.
Who cares? I want to us win games. End of.
posted on 24/3/23
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 37 seconds ago
Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
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Come on. Don't fall for the bookies bro!
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Yep, it's meaningless. It just means Spurs fans are reacting to the JN sacking by piling money on him.
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Doesn’t go from 25/1 to 8/11 in 24hrs without some element of substance though.
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It can do. All it takes is news of the sacking and then a couple of comments from someone like Paul O'Keefe saying "Levy is a big fan of Nagelsmann" alongside similar journalistic guesswork and then you have an army of spurs fans lumping wads of cash on it. The bookmakers don't know anything we don't know. The odds just shorten based on the amount of bets placed.
For what it's worth I don't think that's where the smart money is anyway. He's not going to jump on the Spurs job straight away. Earliest we'll get him is in the summer meaning we'll probably have to have Mason in place first. Let's face it, if it is between Poch and JN then we're gonna have to take on the ugly bird the good-looking mate in Madrid turned down.
posted on 24/3/23
Poch would be the sensible appointment for a number of reasons one of the main ones being that because of who he is he would get shown a bit more patience by the fanbase.
I know its the most sensible but I am not convinced the 2nd time around is a good idea.
posted on 24/3/23
Love this 😂😂😂
https://twitter.com/thfcns/status/1639284366131036160?s=21
posted on 24/3/23
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Big Julian now 8/11 to be appointed with most bookies
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Come on. Don't fall for the bookies bro!
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Yep, it's meaningless. It just means Spurs fans are reacting to the JN sacking by piling money on him.
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Doesn’t go from 25/1 to 8/11 in 24hrs without some element of substance though.
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It can do. All it takes is news of the sacking and then a couple of comments from someone like Paul O'Keefe saying "Levy is a big fan of Nagelsmann" alongside similar journalistic guesswork and then you have an army of spurs fans lumping wads of cash on it. The bookmakers don't know anything we don't know. The odds just shorten based on the amount of bets placed.
For what it's worth I don't think that's where the smart money is anyway. He's not going to jump on the Spurs job straight away. Earliest we'll get him is in the summer meaning we'll probably have to have Mason in place first. Let's face it, if it is between Poch and JN then we're gonna have to take on the ugly bird the good-looking mate in Madrid turned down.
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We have 10 games left for the season. If Mason takes charge so be it
posted on 24/3/23
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 9 minutes ago
Poch would be the sensible appointment for a number of reasons one of the main ones being that because of who he is he would get shown a bit more patience by the fanbase.
I know its the most sensible but I am not convinced the 2nd time around is a good idea.
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Agreed there are risks but there are with Nagelsmann too. By all accounts he fell out with a few players and the entire board at Bayern, largely down to his enormous ego. If that is the case then how is he going to find it working under Levy. I'm hoping it was the pressure of working for such a huge club that made him buckle. At Spurs he wouldn't feel it as much and he'd definitely be afforded time just as he was at Leipzig. Another issue is that he's apparently fiercely ambitious so it could be another 2 year stint before he's courted elsewhere. That's the issue with up and coming managers. At least those at the top who have tried and failed (sort of), like Poch, won't be so eager to jump ship.
posted on 24/3/23
At least those at the top who have tried and failed (sort of), like Poch, won't be so eager to jump ship.
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I agree completely with your reasoning. Poch had no big ties to any other UK club and developed an afffinity with SPurs which I think meant a lot. He was with us 5 years instead of 12 months and done a lot of good.
Pool had most of their success when they promoted managers from within whose life was the club and it does make a difference. The problem is we have not had a player like that with that sort of dedication or love for the club since Bill Nick.
I would also be concerned that he was second in the german league with Bayern. I thought they just gave Bayern the trophy at the beginning of the season nowadays
posted on 24/3/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 9 minutes ago
Poch would be the sensible appointment for a number of reasons one of the main ones being that because of who he is he would get shown a bit more patience by the fanbase.
I know its the most sensible but I am not convinced the 2nd time around is a good idea.
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Agreed there are risks but there are with Nagelsmann too. By all accounts he fell out with a few players and the entire board at Bayern, largely down to his enormous ego. If that is the case then how is he going to find it working under Levy. I'm hoping it was the pressure of working for such a huge club that made him buckle. At Spurs he wouldn't feel it as much and he'd definitely be afforded time just as he was at Leipzig. Another issue is that he's apparently fiercely ambitious so it could be another 2 year stint before he's courted elsewhere. That's the issue with up and coming managers. At least those at the top who have tried and failed (sort of), like Poch, won't be so eager to jump ship.
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Yeah that's not a good reference for JN. One thing that bugged me was that pic of him riding a scooter or a skateboard into the Bayern training ground last season.
Trying to be some cool hipster. Grow up and drive a car mate.
posted on 24/3/23
Trying to be some cool hipster. Grow up and drive a car mate.
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Just as I was about to go out on one of my motorbikes as well
posted on 24/3/23
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 5 minutes ago
Trying to be some cool hipster. Grow up and drive a car mate.
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Just as I was about to go out on one of my motorbikes as well
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🤣👍🏻
posted on 24/3/23
Just as I was about to go out on one of my motorbikes as well
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As it happens I was being serious I have 6 bikes and ride regularly
posted on 24/3/23
https://twitter.com/thespurswatch/status/1639290559427665925?s=21
posted on 24/3/23
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Just as I was about to go out on one of my motorbikes as well
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As it happens I was being serious I have 6 bikes and ride regularly
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Do you want a medal?
posted on 24/3/23
Do you want a medal?
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Nope but a new TIG welding kit would be useful if you have one to spare. You can google what it is
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