Even I couldn’t believe what I was watching when we went one nil up. We play defensively and bring on Sanchez. Sick of it. Even in the 90’s we wouldn’t have done that.

We got what we deserved for being cowards. Cowards from the chairman right through to the players.

It's all as though Conte is still there in spirit, maybe still offering moral support for Stellini, same passive football and negative subs , Stellini should have gone with Conte need a clean sweep

Cowards

I did this the other day, but I'll update it.

INARGUABLY GOOD ENOUGH
Kane
Romero
Kulusevski
Bentancur


BORDERLINE/OK SQUAD FILLERS
Skipp
Hojbjerg
Richarlison
Royal
Forster
Porro
Sarr
Davies
Bissouma


NEED SELLING
Lloris
Sanchez
Son
Perisic
Dier
Danjuma
Sessegnon
Tanganga
Moura
Lenglet





4 good enough
9 borderline/squad fillers
10 simply not up to it


Shocking state when there's not enough half a team's worth of players who are actually GOOD as opposed to just about passable

Not even*

comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 46 seconds ago
I did this the other day, but I'll update it.

INARGUABLY GOOD ENOUGH
Kane
Romero
Kulusevski
Bentancur


BORDERLINE/OK SQUAD FILLERS
Skipp
Hojbjerg
Richarlison
Royal
Forster
Porro
Sarr
Davies
Bissouma


NEED SELLING
Lloris
Sanchez
Son
Perisic
Dier
Danjuma
Sessegnon
Tanganga
Moura
Lenglet





4 good enough
9 borderline/squad fillers
10 simply not up to it


Shocking state when there's not enough half a team's worth of players who are actually GOOD as opposed to just about passable
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The good news with your selling list is that they are all either near the end of their contracts or on loan.

Massive 2 years coming up where we need to shift a lot of these wasters and start again.

Seriously:

3-1 up against a bottom three team, with 15/20 minutes to go. To a man, they stop playing and allow the opposition to get a draw, with an injury time equaliser.Two precious points dropped.

Two weeks to learn from their mistakes.

Winning 1-0 against a bottom three team, who are down to 10 men, with 15/20 minutes to go and to a man they stop playing and allow the opposition to get a draw, with an equaliser in injury time. Two precious points dropped.

I can see the ground hog day implications, you can all see the ground hog day implications....why do we have 12/13 players who cant ???

Either we have a group of the thickest players in the world, or a group of players with the weakest mentality in the world.

Personally I am not sure. Probably both.

It appears there is a real need for a team of mentality experts needed to work 24/7 with this lot, or, probably an easier solution....GET RID.

I can't ( unfortunately ) just unsupport this bunch of clowns, but I just can't be bothered with the rest of this season, which has 6th ( at the very best ) written all over it.

A hell of a lot of change is needed this coming summer.

comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 38 seconds ago
I did this the other day, but I'll update it.

INARGUABLY GOOD ENOUGH
Kane
Romero
Kulusevski
Bentancur


BORDERLINE/OK SQUAD FILLERS
Skipp
Hojbjerg
Richarlison
Royal
Forster
Porro
Sarr
Davies
Bissouma


NEED SELLING
Lloris
Sanchez
Son
Perisic
Dier
Danjuma
Sessegnon
Tanganga
Moura
Lenglet





4 good enough
9 borderline/squad fillers
10 simply not up to it


Shocking state when there's not enough half a team's worth of players who are actually GOOD as opposed to just about passable
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I think you are being a bit harsh on Sarr, Porro, Son & Danjuma.

Son is having a poor time by his standards but I partly blame the midfield and Perisic who tends to take up some of the areas Son likes to run into.
Porro I think will be a valuable team member once he gets used to the PL. Danjuma in the few minutes he has had so far looks to have good skills and Sarr is a better player than both Hojbjerg and Skipp.
I think with Bentancur back and hopefully Bissouma showing how good he was at Brighton our midfield will just need a little tweaking (Maddison/Tielemans?) to strengthen us. As I said above I think Dier gets a lot of stick when he is one of the few players who throws his body on the line.

Good enough:

Kane
Romero
Son (when played in the correct system)
Bentancur

Squad players:

Richarlison
Dier
Forster
Skipp
Sarr
Royal
Sessegnon
Davies

Need selling:

Lloris
Sanchez
Tanganga
Hojbjerg
Lucas
Perisic
Winks
Ndombele
Lo Celso
Rodon

Jury`s out:

Porro
Bissouma
Gil

N/A:

Danjuma
Lenglet

It is safe to say we are going nowhere for a good few years with all that to sort out, & probably even longer if Kane leaves.

The level of incompetence and mismanagement is staggering, we really are being run by clowns.

comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 38 seconds ago
I did this the other day, but I'll update it.

INARGUABLY GOOD ENOUGH
Kane
Romero
Kulusevski
Bentancur


BORDERLINE/OK SQUAD FILLERS
Skipp
Hojbjerg
Richarlison
Royal
Forster
Porro
Sarr
Davies
Bissouma


NEED SELLING
Lloris
Sanchez
Son
Perisic
Dier
Danjuma
Sessegnon
Tanganga
Moura
Lenglet





4 good enough
9 borderline/squad fillers
10 simply not up to it


Shocking state when there's not enough half a team's worth of players who are actually GOOD as opposed to just about passable
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I think you are being a bit harsh on Sarr, Porro, Son & Danjuma.

Son is having a poor time by his standards but I partly blame the midfield and Perisic who tends to take up some of the areas Son likes to run into.
Porro I think will be a valuable team member once he gets used to the PL. Danjuma in the few minutes he has had so far looks to have good skills and Sarr is a better player than both Hojbjerg and Skipp.
I think with Bentancur back and hopefully Bissouma showing how good he was at Brighton our midfield will just need a little tweaking (Maddison/Tielemans?) to strengthen us. As I said above I think Dier gets a lot of stick when he is one of the few players who throws his body on the line.
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Son's done. I really think he's not coming back.

Porro and Sarr are unproven but have promise. They're not indisputable first XI quality. Hence borderline/squad fillers, at the moment.

Danjuma is a waste of squad space if he can't get minutes ahead of Son, Richarlison or even Lucas at the moment. I can only assume he's just not very good.

We played with 10 men tonight.
Son was a total zombie. I counted the number of times he actually got the ball ...10. And the one chance he might have had at goal, he was offside and wouldn't have scored anyway. Something has gone very wrong with Son. He simply runs right into trouble with the ball, and whereas he used to get out of bad situations, now he just loses.
I think his career is cooked.

That said, why we insist on playing in our own half, and letting Everton's 10 men run around our penalty area taking pot shots...... is this our tactics Now?
Kulushevski did not have a good game, but he was the only player making a real attempt to get up front and score....and when he did get up front there was nobody to pass to, or help.

Anyone watching this match could be forgiven for thinking the team in blue shirts were Spurs.

"Finally I think overall Everton got a draw but probably deserved a win. Think whoever takes over will need to look at a comprehensive change of personnel, especially in midfield and at the back."
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You can pick out 3 players from this game that are worth keeping.......
Kane, Romero and Kulushevski.
If you HAVE to keep more, then......
Dier, Perisic,
God only knows what's happened to Hojbjerg and Skipp, but they did not show up tonight.
As for the rest.......
When Sanchez was brought on...I knew we were in for trouble.
But then I looked at the bench and it was either him or Sarr, maybe Tanganga.
As for Moura.........
Yes, Everton deserved to win.
And the one point we got will do no good at all....we're destined for 6th place.

Some of these players have lost so many times at the club that they just don’t feel it anymore. There’s no consequences for them. Players like don don’t even get dropped. Apart from Kane there isn’t a single player in the squad that would bother me if they left. Not one.

Conte was 100% right, he said `they are used to losing here`, he was bang on the money, the whole club has a losers mentality that has been developed by ENIC over many years, it is ingrained into the DNA of the club these days.

It is incredibly sad what Levy, Lewis & ENIC have done to our beloved club, we are no longer a serious football club, we are just one division of a London entertainment venue with a stadium full of consumers.

Levy can still trouser huge profits without a successful football team, as long as we stay in the PL then the profits will continue to roll in, any European qualification is the icing on Levy`s cake.

That is a huge problem for the true fans who want silverware.

Levy, Lewis & ENIC OUT!

comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 7 minutes ago
Conte was 100% right, he said `they are used to losing here`, he was bang on the money, the whole club has a losers mentality that has been developed by ENIC over many years, it is ingrained into the DNA of the club these days.

It is incredibly sad what Levy, Lewis & ENIC have done to our beloved club, we are no longer a serious football club, we are just one division of a London entertainment venue with a stadium full of consumers.

Levy can still trouser huge profits without a successful football team, as long as we stay in the PL then the profits will continue to roll in, any European qualification is the icing on Levy`s cake.

That is a huge problem for the true fans who want silverware.

Levy, Lewis & ENIC OUT!
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Agreed, it’s Levy that has allowed this malaise, his loser mentality has finally affected the club.

I am seriously worried about next season without Kane - I think we will be like Chelsea, down there scrapping for a top half finish with no obvious ray of light to cling to. The difference being they will spend another half a billion to sort it out whereas we will keep shopping at flea markets

And imagine without Kane? Would be scrapping relegation with this defence

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 28 minutes ago
And imagine without Kane? Would be scrapping relegation with this defence
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Quite possible Don - our defence is statistically bottom 6