Can't really say until after the transfer window for him, ins and outs, also I don't know enough about the bloke to give a really honest opinion on his skill level?
To me he doesnt seem the sort of manager that can build a team.
The fact he still playing players that are leaving in the summer tells you he doesnt know how to build a squad.
Any sensible manager would have written this season off and went for the guys who will be there next year. He could have brought in a few new faces and gave them experience rather than throw them in in the champions league qualifiers.
I don't really see what evidence there is from Sunday that Beale can't rebuild the team
Sloppy goal given away
We miss an open net
He hooks Kent at half time....big call
Cantwell was our best player....someone Beale brought in
"The fact he still playing players that are leaving in the summer tells you he doesnt know how to build a squad."
What utter horse $hit that is
The best XI we have includes the guys who are leaving...and there was still a trophy there for us to potentially win up until Sunday
Not gonna slate a manager for putting out his best XI
Will definitely slate him if we see Morelos and Kent playing in every league game from here on in...of that you are correct
comment by Timmy (U14278)
posted 9 hours, 13 minutes ago
To me he doesnt seem the sort of manager that can build a team.
The fact he still playing players that are leaving in the summer tells you he doesnt know how to build a squad.
Any sensible manager would have written this season off and went for the guys who will be there next year. He could have brought in a few new faces and gave them experience rather than throw them in in the champions league qualifiers.
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Why would he have written the season off? If he had won all his games since he came in he would have won a double.
He had to try.
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 57 minutes ago
I don't really see what evidence there is from Sunday that Beale can't rebuild the team
Sloppy goal given away
We miss an open net
He hooks Kent at half time....big call
Cantwell was our best player....someone Beale brought in
"The fact he still playing players that are leaving in the summer tells you he doesnt know how to build a squad."
What utter horse $hit that is
The best XI we have includes the guys who are leaving...and there was still a trophy there for us to potentially win up until Sunday
Not gonna slate a manager for putting out his best XI
Will definitely slate him if we see Morelos and Kent playing in every league game from here on in...of that you are correct
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Didn't think either of the new lads were any good.
Neither provided and service going forward.
Bizarrely, Lundstrum had a good game IMO. Took a lot of confidence from not being sent off in the first minute.
i can't say i noticed Raskin at all other than his early shot.
Cantwell doesn't worry me, weird guy not letting a fellow pro have a drink, big win there wee baws.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 40 minutes ago
i can't say i noticed Raskin at all other than his early shot.
Cantwell doesn't worry me, weird guy not letting a fellow pro have a drink, big win there wee baws.
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I'd have shat in it
I know the OP is looking for nibbles but its a fair discussion point anyway.
No doubt re Beale for me. Other than the cup final I don't think he's done much wrong, the issues are familiar ones that pre date his arrival and think he's done as much as he could with what he has.
He had a bit of a free hit this season since coming in halfway through, he will be judged on what he does in the summer and how we perform next season. But Rangers need someone who can coach and develop players given the financial constraints we are working to and he is as good as we could get in that respect. Looking forward to the rebuild and where we are post summer.
Yes you can say he could have turned it around but he didnt and the fact is you now go into next year with players that are leaving and having to go into the qualifiers with all new players with zeŕo experience.
Rangers as a club need to stop letting players run contracts down and also accept that you sell when you get a decent bid in.
Celtic have been doing it for years now and yes its disappointing when a favouŕite leaves but better to keep moving forward then stagnating.
Oniell done the same to us. Gave us great times but he kept playing his old friends and left us in a complete shambles when he left as we were left a bunch of oap well past it and had to start rebuilding again.
Rangers giving the old guys a new contract last summer was bad idea as its only delayed the inevitable rebuild job.
Don't disagree Timmy but none of those issues can be attributed to Beale. Those responsible are no longer in their jobs after the fans made their feelings clear.
That's now in the past, we have paid the price for poor management and have new people in place for a rebuild to take it forward. Time will tell whether they manage this successfully.
comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 40 minutes ago
i can't say i noticed Raskin at all other than his early shot.
Cantwell doesn't worry me, weird guy not letting a fellow pro have a drink, big win there wee baws.
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I'd have shat in it
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just as well you didn't, rangers fans would have stormed the pitch wanting a drink if they saw you do it.
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 23 minutes ago
I know the OP is looking for nibbles but its a fair discussion point anyway.
No doubt re Beale for me. Other than the cup final I don't think he's done much wrong, the issues are familiar ones that pre date his arrival and think he's done as much as he could with what he has.
He had a bit of a free hit this season since coming in halfway through, he will be judged on what he does in the summer and how we perform next season. But Rangers need someone who can coach and develop players given the financial constraints we are working to and he is as good as we could get in that respect. Looking forward to the rebuild and where we are post summer.
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there seems to be a familiar pattern in these games lately.
rangers come out in the first half and try to stop us playing, and go into half time behind.
they come out in second half and have a go and cause us problems but ultimately fall short.
i'm fine with that, but kinda feel you should just try and play your own game from the start.
comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 40 minutes ago
i can't say i noticed Raskin at all other than his early shot.
Cantwell doesn't worry me, weird guy not letting a fellow pro have a drink, big win there wee baws.
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I'd have shat it
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comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 23 minutes ago
I know the OP is looking for nibbles but its a fair discussion point anyway.
No doubt re Beale for me. Other than the cup final I don't think he's done much wrong, the issues are familiar ones that pre date his arrival and think he's done as much as he could with what he has.
He had a bit of a free hit this season since coming in halfway through, he will be judged on what he does in the summer and how we perform next season. But Rangers need someone who can coach and develop players given the financial constraints we are working to and he is as good as we could get in that respect. Looking forward to the rebuild and where we are post summer.
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there seems to be a familiar pattern in these games lately.
rangers come out in the first half and try to stop us playing, and go into half time behind.
they come out in second half and have a go and cause us problems but ultimately fall short.
i'm fine with that, but kinda feel you should just try and play your own game from the start.
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I think we do. I think its more credit to Celtic that the games start that way. Celtic generally start games very well and with a lot of intensity and then naturally as the game wears on the pace drops a bit which has allowed us more of a foothold.
I'm not going to go in to ifs and buts because ultimately its not a fluke that Celtic have won the last few games. I just don't think the outcomes have been as a result of poor tactics or selection by the Manager (cup final aside) and more individual errors by individuals who will probably pay the price for those in the summer.
i don't think rangers can match our intensity, not just physically, but in terms of concentration. we're not stop and it's as if your players aren't capable of staying that sharp for 90 minutes.
I don't particularly think we need to in all fairness. Celtic's intensity is not for 90 minutes, the strategy is very much to try and put games to bed as early as possible.
When it happens its job done. When it doesn't, it gives teams a chance. I think that will be Beale's frustration over the games he's managed, that games have taken that pattern but individual errors have allowed Celtic a way out.
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't particularly think we need to in all fairness. Celtic's intensity is not for 90 minutes, the strategy is very much to try and put games to bed as early as possible.
When it happens its job done. When it doesn't, it gives teams a chance. I think that will be Beale's frustration over the games he's managed, that games have taken that pattern but individual errors have allowed Celtic a way out.
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So the opposing team doesn't force your players into these errors?
That's one way of looking at it I suppose.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't particularly think we need to in all fairness. Celtic's intensity is not for 90 minutes, the strategy is very much to try and put games to bed as early as possible.
When it happens its job done. When it doesn't, it gives teams a chance. I think that will be Beale's frustration over the games he's managed, that games have taken that pattern but individual errors have allowed Celtic a way out.
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So the opposing team doesn't force your players into these errors?
That's one way of looking at it I suppose.
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Forced errors happen yes but not sure any of the recent ones were forced by a press or anything Celtic did? I can think of 4 under Beale that come in to the basic "schoolboy" category.
Think you're taking the discussion a different way though, it wasn't intended to be critical of Celtic and more why I don't think the Manager is to blame for the outcomes.
we're not rapid for 90 minutes but we're sharp, we never seem to switch off and i think rangers spend so much energy trying to deal with that when they are not yet capable.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 23 minutes ago
I know the OP is looking for nibbles but its a fair discussion point anyway.
No doubt re Beale for me. Other than the cup final I don't think he's done much wrong, the issues are familiar ones that pre date his arrival and think he's done as much as he could with what he has.
He had a bit of a free hit this season since coming in halfway through, he will be judged on what he does in the summer and how we perform next season. But Rangers need someone who can coach and develop players given the financial constraints we are working to and he is as good as we could get in that respect. Looking forward to the rebuild and where we are post summer.
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there seems to be a familiar pattern in these games lately.
rangers come out in the first half and try to stop us playing, and go into half time behind.
they come out in second half and have a go and cause us problems but ultimately fall short.
i'm fine with that, but kinda feel you should just try and play your own game from the start.
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...or maybe cut out the mistakes
There is also the fact that we have been giving away the first goal in nearly every game we play, let alone in the old firm matches....so seems, that pretty much is our game
Yeah agree Stevie, its not specific to the OF games. We lost 2 to Aberdeen the week before, 2 to St Mirren the week before that and 3 to Celtic before that.
There's an argument he's been here long enough to sort the defence in some kind of structure but honestly its difficult to fault the set up. We're not being cut open or facing loads of chances each game, it just seems we have moments where individual mistakes are punished and it is killing us. I read the other day 40% of shots we have faced this season have resulted in a goal. That's pretty ruthless albeit it highlights we should have addressed the GK position last summer.
Hearing rangers are taking a leaf out of celtics books and scouting the far east for prospects.
Beale is frankly trying to sign players from wuhan fc in the hope of another shutout title.
Not sure I’d be signing players who can’t say the team’s name.
Point proven
Said it last term he doesnt know how to build a team
A coach at best but not a manager
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posted on 1/5/23
Can't really say until after the transfer window for him, ins and outs, also I don't know enough about the bloke to give a really honest opinion on his skill level?
posted on 2/5/23
To me he doesnt seem the sort of manager that can build a team.
The fact he still playing players that are leaving in the summer tells you he doesnt know how to build a squad.
Any sensible manager would have written this season off and went for the guys who will be there next year. He could have brought in a few new faces and gave them experience rather than throw them in in the champions league qualifiers.
posted on 2/5/23
I don't really see what evidence there is from Sunday that Beale can't rebuild the team
Sloppy goal given away
We miss an open net
He hooks Kent at half time....big call
Cantwell was our best player....someone Beale brought in
"The fact he still playing players that are leaving in the summer tells you he doesnt know how to build a squad."
What utter horse $hit that is
The best XI we have includes the guys who are leaving...and there was still a trophy there for us to potentially win up until Sunday
Not gonna slate a manager for putting out his best XI
Will definitely slate him if we see Morelos and Kent playing in every league game from here on in...of that you are correct
posted on 2/5/23
comment by Timmy (U14278)
posted 9 hours, 13 minutes ago
To me he doesnt seem the sort of manager that can build a team.
The fact he still playing players that are leaving in the summer tells you he doesnt know how to build a squad.
Any sensible manager would have written this season off and went for the guys who will be there next year. He could have brought in a few new faces and gave them experience rather than throw them in in the champions league qualifiers.
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Why would he have written the season off? If he had won all his games since he came in he would have won a double.
He had to try.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 57 minutes ago
I don't really see what evidence there is from Sunday that Beale can't rebuild the team
Sloppy goal given away
We miss an open net
He hooks Kent at half time....big call
Cantwell was our best player....someone Beale brought in
"The fact he still playing players that are leaving in the summer tells you he doesnt know how to build a squad."
What utter horse $hit that is
The best XI we have includes the guys who are leaving...and there was still a trophy there for us to potentially win up until Sunday
Not gonna slate a manager for putting out his best XI
Will definitely slate him if we see Morelos and Kent playing in every league game from here on in...of that you are correct
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Didn't think either of the new lads were any good.
Neither provided and service going forward.
Bizarrely, Lundstrum had a good game IMO. Took a lot of confidence from not being sent off in the first minute.
posted on 2/5/23
i can't say i noticed Raskin at all other than his early shot.
Cantwell doesn't worry me, weird guy not letting a fellow pro have a drink, big win there wee baws.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 40 minutes ago
i can't say i noticed Raskin at all other than his early shot.
Cantwell doesn't worry me, weird guy not letting a fellow pro have a drink, big win there wee baws.
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I'd have shat in it
posted on 2/5/23
I know the OP is looking for nibbles but its a fair discussion point anyway.
No doubt re Beale for me. Other than the cup final I don't think he's done much wrong, the issues are familiar ones that pre date his arrival and think he's done as much as he could with what he has.
He had a bit of a free hit this season since coming in halfway through, he will be judged on what he does in the summer and how we perform next season. But Rangers need someone who can coach and develop players given the financial constraints we are working to and he is as good as we could get in that respect. Looking forward to the rebuild and where we are post summer.
posted on 2/5/23
Yes you can say he could have turned it around but he didnt and the fact is you now go into next year with players that are leaving and having to go into the qualifiers with all new players with zeŕo experience.
Rangers as a club need to stop letting players run contracts down and also accept that you sell when you get a decent bid in.
Celtic have been doing it for years now and yes its disappointing when a favouŕite leaves but better to keep moving forward then stagnating.
Oniell done the same to us. Gave us great times but he kept playing his old friends and left us in a complete shambles when he left as we were left a bunch of oap well past it and had to start rebuilding again.
Rangers giving the old guys a new contract last summer was bad idea as its only delayed the inevitable rebuild job.
posted on 2/5/23
Don't disagree Timmy but none of those issues can be attributed to Beale. Those responsible are no longer in their jobs after the fans made their feelings clear.
That's now in the past, we have paid the price for poor management and have new people in place for a rebuild to take it forward. Time will tell whether they manage this successfully.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 40 minutes ago
i can't say i noticed Raskin at all other than his early shot.
Cantwell doesn't worry me, weird guy not letting a fellow pro have a drink, big win there wee baws.
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I'd have shat in it
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just as well you didn't, rangers fans would have stormed the pitch wanting a drink if they saw you do it.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 23 minutes ago
I know the OP is looking for nibbles but its a fair discussion point anyway.
No doubt re Beale for me. Other than the cup final I don't think he's done much wrong, the issues are familiar ones that pre date his arrival and think he's done as much as he could with what he has.
He had a bit of a free hit this season since coming in halfway through, he will be judged on what he does in the summer and how we perform next season. But Rangers need someone who can coach and develop players given the financial constraints we are working to and he is as good as we could get in that respect. Looking forward to the rebuild and where we are post summer.
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there seems to be a familiar pattern in these games lately.
rangers come out in the first half and try to stop us playing, and go into half time behind.
they come out in second half and have a go and cause us problems but ultimately fall short.
i'm fine with that, but kinda feel you should just try and play your own game from the start.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 40 minutes ago
i can't say i noticed Raskin at all other than his early shot.
Cantwell doesn't worry me, weird guy not letting a fellow pro have a drink, big win there wee baws.
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I'd have shat it
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posted on 2/5/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 23 minutes ago
I know the OP is looking for nibbles but its a fair discussion point anyway.
No doubt re Beale for me. Other than the cup final I don't think he's done much wrong, the issues are familiar ones that pre date his arrival and think he's done as much as he could with what he has.
He had a bit of a free hit this season since coming in halfway through, he will be judged on what he does in the summer and how we perform next season. But Rangers need someone who can coach and develop players given the financial constraints we are working to and he is as good as we could get in that respect. Looking forward to the rebuild and where we are post summer.
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there seems to be a familiar pattern in these games lately.
rangers come out in the first half and try to stop us playing, and go into half time behind.
they come out in second half and have a go and cause us problems but ultimately fall short.
i'm fine with that, but kinda feel you should just try and play your own game from the start.
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I think we do. I think its more credit to Celtic that the games start that way. Celtic generally start games very well and with a lot of intensity and then naturally as the game wears on the pace drops a bit which has allowed us more of a foothold.
I'm not going to go in to ifs and buts because ultimately its not a fluke that Celtic have won the last few games. I just don't think the outcomes have been as a result of poor tactics or selection by the Manager (cup final aside) and more individual errors by individuals who will probably pay the price for those in the summer.
posted on 2/5/23
i don't think rangers can match our intensity, not just physically, but in terms of concentration. we're not stop and it's as if your players aren't capable of staying that sharp for 90 minutes.
posted on 2/5/23
I don't particularly think we need to in all fairness. Celtic's intensity is not for 90 minutes, the strategy is very much to try and put games to bed as early as possible.
When it happens its job done. When it doesn't, it gives teams a chance. I think that will be Beale's frustration over the games he's managed, that games have taken that pattern but individual errors have allowed Celtic a way out.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't particularly think we need to in all fairness. Celtic's intensity is not for 90 minutes, the strategy is very much to try and put games to bed as early as possible.
When it happens its job done. When it doesn't, it gives teams a chance. I think that will be Beale's frustration over the games he's managed, that games have taken that pattern but individual errors have allowed Celtic a way out.
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So the opposing team doesn't force your players into these errors?
That's one way of looking at it I suppose.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't particularly think we need to in all fairness. Celtic's intensity is not for 90 minutes, the strategy is very much to try and put games to bed as early as possible.
When it happens its job done. When it doesn't, it gives teams a chance. I think that will be Beale's frustration over the games he's managed, that games have taken that pattern but individual errors have allowed Celtic a way out.
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So the opposing team doesn't force your players into these errors?
That's one way of looking at it I suppose.
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Forced errors happen yes but not sure any of the recent ones were forced by a press or anything Celtic did? I can think of 4 under Beale that come in to the basic "schoolboy" category.
Think you're taking the discussion a different way though, it wasn't intended to be critical of Celtic and more why I don't think the Manager is to blame for the outcomes.
posted on 2/5/23
we're not rapid for 90 minutes but we're sharp, we never seem to switch off and i think rangers spend so much energy trying to deal with that when they are not yet capable.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 23 minutes ago
I know the OP is looking for nibbles but its a fair discussion point anyway.
No doubt re Beale for me. Other than the cup final I don't think he's done much wrong, the issues are familiar ones that pre date his arrival and think he's done as much as he could with what he has.
He had a bit of a free hit this season since coming in halfway through, he will be judged on what he does in the summer and how we perform next season. But Rangers need someone who can coach and develop players given the financial constraints we are working to and he is as good as we could get in that respect. Looking forward to the rebuild and where we are post summer.
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there seems to be a familiar pattern in these games lately.
rangers come out in the first half and try to stop us playing, and go into half time behind.
they come out in second half and have a go and cause us problems but ultimately fall short.
i'm fine with that, but kinda feel you should just try and play your own game from the start.
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...or maybe cut out the mistakes
There is also the fact that we have been giving away the first goal in nearly every game we play, let alone in the old firm matches....so seems, that pretty much is our game
posted on 2/5/23
Yeah agree Stevie, its not specific to the OF games. We lost 2 to Aberdeen the week before, 2 to St Mirren the week before that and 3 to Celtic before that.
There's an argument he's been here long enough to sort the defence in some kind of structure but honestly its difficult to fault the set up. We're not being cut open or facing loads of chances each game, it just seems we have moments where individual mistakes are punished and it is killing us. I read the other day 40% of shots we have faced this season have resulted in a goal. That's pretty ruthless albeit it highlights we should have addressed the GK position last summer.
posted on 2/5/23
Hearing rangers are taking a leaf out of celtics books and scouting the far east for prospects.
Beale is frankly trying to sign players from wuhan fc in the hope of another shutout title.
posted on 3/5/23
Not sure I’d be signing players who can’t say the team’s name.
posted on 4/9/23
Point proven
Said it last term he doesnt know how to build a team
A coach at best but not a manager
posted on 4/10/23
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