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posted on 15/5/23

Look Sandy went too far there and should apologise for that comment, it was out of order.

However, in terms of mitigation, Sandy is getting attacked a lot at the moment on this site and hands up I’ve had a couple of digs aswell and apologise. I can see why Sandy has perhaps lashed out in frustration here.

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football clu... (U6574)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football clu... (U6574)
posted 17 minutes ago
Like Poch he will probably end up at palace
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Grow up Smeg.
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Why don’t you write me a letter about it you utter melt .
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Sandy thinks Ryan Mason will lead the club to success.
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Sandy knows nothing about anything. He is a WUM who seeks contrary views just to start arguments, then when proved to be the melt he is, he either runs away for months in end or opens new accounts and talks to himself.

Just ignore his posts. He’ll have a tantrum soon enough and disappear, this forum will be much better off for it too.

Poch to palace <laugh<
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LOL not taking lectures off Chelsea's latest fan. Feck of to SB, and your b,um boy Pochettino.
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Sandy

You are better than this, no need to resort to comments like this☹️
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Genius, he deserves it mate, and I stand by it. Smeg and a few others are poison to our club. They constantly run it down, they don`t even go to games. I loathe them, and an embarrassed that they say they support the same club as me.
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You stand by you homophobic comments?

You utter utter cretin. My brother killed himself because of comments from disgusting humans like yourself

Nothing in football gives you the right to spit out homophobic filth.


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What a truly vile individual he is.

posted on 15/5/23

comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football clu... (U6574)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football clu... (U6574)
posted 17 minutes ago
Like Poch he will probably end up at palace
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Grow up Smeg.
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Why don’t you write me a letter about it you utter melt .
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Sandy thinks Ryan Mason will lead the club to success.
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Sandy knows nothing about anything. He is a WUM who seeks contrary views just to start arguments, then when proved to be the melt he is, he either runs away for months in end or opens new accounts and talks to himself.

Just ignore his posts. He’ll have a tantrum soon enough and disappear, this forum will be much better off for it too.

Poch to palace <laugh<
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LOL not taking lectures off Chelsea's latest fan. Feck of to SB, and your b,um boy Pochettino.
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Sandy

You are better than this
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No he isn’t.

comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 21 minutes ago
Look Sandy went too far there and should apologise for that comment, it was out of order.

However, in terms of mitigation, Sandy is getting attacked a lot at the moment on this site and hands up I’ve had a couple of digs aswell and apologise. I can see why Sandy has perhaps lashed out in frustration here.
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This is a football forum and Sandy provokes as much as he gives out

No one has a right to spread homophobia. He is a vile human being and there are NO excuses for it.

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football clu... (U6574)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football clu... (U6574)
posted 17 minutes ago
Like Poch he will probably end up at palace
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Grow up Smeg.
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Why don’t you write me a letter about it you utter melt .
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Sandy thinks Ryan Mason will lead the club to success.
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Sandy knows nothing about anything. He is a WUM who seeks contrary views just to start arguments, then when proved to be the melt he is, he either runs away for months in end or opens new accounts and talks to himself.

Just ignore his posts. He’ll have a tantrum soon enough and disappear, this forum will be much better off for it too.

Poch to palace <laugh<
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LOL not taking lectures off Chelsea's latest fan. Feck of to SB, and your b,um boy Pochettino.
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Sandy

You are better than this
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No he isn’t.
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He really isn't. Needs banning from the site.

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 21 minutes ago
Look Sandy went too far there and should apologise for that comment, it was out of order.

However, in terms of mitigation, Sandy is getting attacked a lot at the moment on this site and hands up I’ve had a couple of digs aswell and apologise. I can see why Sandy has perhaps lashed out in frustration here.
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This is a football forum and Sandy provokes as much as he gives out

No one has a right to spread homophobia. He is a vile human being and there are NO excuses for it.
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He was completely in the wrong there, no doubt about it and the fact he is harbours those thoughts is abhorrent.

However, if he truly is as old as he says he is - the. He definitely gets bullied a little bit on this site - although again admittedly he provokes a lot of it.

I’m flip flopping, however I think if he is man enough to come back, own the comment and apologise then he should be given another chance here

posted on 15/5/23

THFC are right to take their time over this.

There is little point in making an appointment now, and particularly while the DoF position also remains unfilled.

There is also a degree of respect and doing things properly with regards to managers who are still in work. Whether its DeZerbi, Slot, Aimion we cannot openly approach them now while seasons remain unfinished, while we can of course speak with Poch Nags Rodgers etc if we want.

To do the due diligence properly we need to have undertaken a pretty exhaustive search.

I have no problem in Nags being ruled out. Sounds like there have been some talks and if he's been discounted then so be it. I do think not having any coaching team to bring with you is an issue, as his were highly regarded and its hard to judge whether he'll be as good with a yet to be assembled coaching team.

There should be doubts about him and he certainly isnt a top manager who could demand the same treatment and wages as someone like Klopp, even if he thinks he's that good in his own head.

As a side, after watching BHA take Arsenal apart yesterday, IMO I feel DeZebri has moved to the top of the pile and would be a superb appointment.

posted on 15/5/23

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comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 21 minutes ago
Look Sandy went too far there and should apologise for that comment, it was out of order.

However, in terms of mitigation, Sandy is getting attacked a lot at the moment on this site and hands up I’ve had a couple of digs aswell and apologise. I can see why Sandy has perhaps lashed out in frustration here.
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This is a football forum and Sandy provokes as much as he gives out

No one has a right to spread homophobia. He is a vile human being and there are NO excuses for it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He was completely in the wrong there, no doubt about it and the fact he is harbours those thoughts is abhorrent.

However, if he truly is as old as he says he is - the. He definitely gets bullied a little bit on this site - although again admittedly he provokes a lot of it.

I’m flip flopping, however I think if he is man enough to come back, own the comment and apologise then he should be given another chance here
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To make homophobic comments and then come back to say you stand by them is completely unacceptable

There is NO excuse. I don’t care how old he pretends he is.

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Number 8 (U9729)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
THFC are right to take their time over this.

There is little point in making an appointment now, and particularly while the DoF position also remains unfilled.

There is also a degree of respect and doing things properly with regards to managers who are still in work. Whether its DeZerbi, Slot, Aimion we cannot openly approach them now while seasons remain unfinished, while we can of course speak with Poch Nags Rodgers etc if we want.

To do the due diligence properly we need to have undertaken a pretty exhaustive search.

I have no problem in Nags being ruled out. Sounds like there have been some talks and if he's been discounted then so be it. I do think not having any coaching team to bring with you is an issue, as his were highly regarded and its hard to judge whether he'll be as good with a yet to be assembled coaching team.

There should be doubts about him and he certainly isnt a top manager who could demand the same treatment and wages as someone like Klopp, even if he thinks he's that good in his own head.

As a side, after watching BHA take Arsenal apart yesterday, IMO I feel DeZebri has moved to the top of the pile and would be a superb appointment.
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My concerns with De Zerbi is that he moves away from the solid Brighton set up, and gets found out like Potter did.

I'm not saying Potter is rubbish away from Brighton, but it's a WHOLE other ball game when you step away from a club where everything is in place, before and after you, everyone i s on the same page, the fans aren't expectant of success etc, to then moving to another club where:

- fans demand instant success
- fans at rock bottom patience
- owner doesn't know what he's doing
- no DOF in place
- no style
- a mish-mash of players that have been put together for 3 coaches before him, by a DOF who is no longer at the club

My fear would be that it would be a HUGE shock to the system for De Zerbi.

Our club is so so bad in so many aspects at the moment
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That would be a concern but when you look at Potter @ BHA, his big problem was scoring goals and they would go long periods when their form dropped off. Last 2 seasons they av. 41 goals and this season they have 66 already, that's more than Spurs and their strikers are a kid in Ferguson and a pensioner in Wellbeck. Potter went 2 Chelsea and although they lack a quality striker, he ran into the same problem despite having an abundance of midfield talent.

I think Potter's attacking "blindspot" has been found out and DeZebri has proved himself to be even more capable, not just in how they play but their attitude. They seem a very competitive group now, mentally and physically up for it. His aggro at WHL this season shows his a spikey character.

Spurs need to make some signings in key positions but it is a very good base to build from. If you consider that BHA started with Gilmour, Colwill, Enciso and played Arsenal off the park, it shows that this is a manager who can get the best of out of a team, even when some of these players would not walk into many other top 6 sides.

I really like what i see, i see a clear difference between his approach & Potters, it is more direct and purposeful than Potters, and he clearly has a fiery, in your face attitude and that comes through on the pitch.

posted on 15/5/23

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posted on 15/5/23

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comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 15/5/23

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 21 minutes ago
Look Sandy went too far there and should apologise for that comment, it was out of order.

However, in terms of mitigation, Sandy is getting attacked a lot at the moment on this site and hands up I’ve had a couple of digs aswell and apologise. I can see why Sandy has perhaps lashed out in frustration here.
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This is a football forum and Sandy provokes as much as he gives out

No one has a right to spread homophobia. He is a vile human being and there are NO excuses for it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He was completely in the wrong there, no doubt about it and the fact he is harbours those thoughts is abhorrent.

However, if he truly is as old as he says he is - the. He definitely gets bullied a little bit on this site - although again admittedly he provokes a lot of it.

I’m flip flopping, however I think if he is man enough to come back, own the comment and apologise then he should be given another chance here
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Why would I need to apologise? Does everyone apologise to me for some of the vile posts I have to encounter.
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Because your comments were homophobic and as a brother of someone who took their life because of abhorrent comments like yours, I am livid and take personal offence. The fact that you then come back to proudly state you stand by your homophobia only shows what a disgusting bigot you are.

comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 15/5/23

Thank you moderators for taking down the homophobic comments made by the poster called Sandy.

comment by Admin1 (U1)

posted on 15/5/23

Smeg sorry to hear about your brother.

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 21 minutes ago
Look Sandy went too far there and should apologise for that comment, it was out of order.

However, in terms of mitigation, Sandy is getting attacked a lot at the moment on this site and hands up I’ve had a couple of digs aswell and apologise. I can see why Sandy has perhaps lashed out in frustration here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


This is a football forum and Sandy provokes as much as he gives out

No one has a right to spread homophobia. He is a vile human being and there are NO excuses for it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He was completely in the wrong there, no doubt about it and the fact he is harbours those thoughts is abhorrent.

However, if he truly is as old as he says he is - the. He definitely gets bullied a little bit on this site - although again admittedly he provokes a lot of it.

I’m flip flopping, however I think if he is man enough to come back, own the comment and apologise then he should be given another chance here
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Why would I need to apologise? Does everyone apologise to me for some of the vile posts I have to encounter.
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Because your comments were homophobic and as a brother of someone who took their life because of abhorrent comments like yours, I am livid and take personal offence. The fact that you then come back to proudly state you stand by your homophobia only shows what a disgusting bigot you are.
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Smeg

Don’t respond to him anymore.

posted on 15/5/23

So sorry to hear that about your brother, that’s awful.

comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 2 minutes ago
Smeg sorry to hear about your brother.
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Thank you. It was 8 years ago and I do all I can to stand up against people with views such as those you have deleted

comment by Admin1 (U1)

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 2 minutes ago
Smeg sorry to hear about your brother.
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Thank you. It was 8 years ago and I do all I can to stand up against people with views such as those you have deleted
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Called out a guy at the gym just last week who seen his mate and shouted "oy Fggot" across the floor. He couldn't see an issue as he was referring to his mate. Moron

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 6 minutes ago
Thank you moderators for taking down the homophobic comments made by the poster called Sandy.
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Too right.

comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 46 seconds ago
So sorry to hear that about your brother, that’s awful.
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Thank you sizz

This is a football forum and I know that banter goes on. I give as much as I get. Although I disagree with some on here, never ever would I type anything as abhorrent as what Sandy wrote. To anyone ever.

What makes it worse is he came back and doubled down on his comments. I hate homophobia. There is no place for it in society. I don’t care how old you are.

It’s been deleted thankfully and it will be the last time I acknowledge sandys existence

Spurs fans were a great help to me when I lost my brother, they didn’t even know it, but being at whl and on forums like this helped keep me going.

Big love to all

comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 15/5/23

comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Citizen Smeg. There used to be a football club over there (U6574)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 2 minutes ago
Smeg sorry to hear about your brother.
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Thank you. It was 8 years ago and I do all I can to stand up against people with views such as those you have deleted
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Called out a guy at the gym just last week who seen his mate and shouted "oy Fggot" across the floor. He couldn't see an issue as he was referring to his mate. Moron
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Good for you. I’ve been threatened many a time for calling it out. We all have responsibility to stamp it out of society

posted on 15/5/23

The thing is Sandy, you are no longer supporting Tottenham Hotspur FC, you are supporting ENIC FC

posted on 15/5/23

comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 26 minutes ago
The thing is Sandy, you are no longer supporting Tottenham Hotspur FC, you are supporting ENIC FC
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Nah mate THFC says what it says on the tin.

posted on 15/5/23

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