Kane "I want to win trophies"
Moves from the club that finish probably 7th to a club that finish 11th at best.
He would deserve slated for that i'm afraid.
Think if Chelsea go big for him this summer United will do the same.
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 42 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
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Yeh the nonsense that Chelsea are suddenly going to morph into some trophy winning machine just because Pochettino is going their is for the birds Boehly is totally clueless, and Spurs should be thankful they have Levy and not him.
As you say Chelsea are a complete shambles, and I reckon they are now in serious financial trouble. They will never shift on most of the players they want to get out, because of the wages the are on.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 42 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
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Yeh the nonsense that Chelsea are suddenly going to morph into some trophy winning machine just because Pochettino is going their is for the birds Boehly is totally clueless, and Spurs should be thankful they have Levy and not him.
As you say Chelsea are a complete shambles, and I reckon they are now in serious financial trouble. They will never shift on most of the players they want to get out, because of the wages the are on.
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I think the players Cheslea can move on will be the ones like Gallagher, Mount, Loftus Cheek, Chalobah. They are still youngish, English and have something of offer and will not be on massive wages. Getting rid of these will bring some money in to balance teh books but really its the other players that are the massive drain and need moving on, but they are the expensive ones on big wages:
Sorts like Kepa, Mendy, Pulisic, Lukaku, Yiyech, Cucurella, Aubameyang they are going to have to take hits on these players just to get rid.
I hope most sensible Chairmen see the potential mess CFC can be in and exploit it.
What will inhibit them is that they would be very very foolish to speculate on selling these players. If acting with any sense they would sell before buying, purely on the FFP position as carrying their wages and amortised transfer fee will be costing them millions.
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
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Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
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Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
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This !
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
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Boehly removed the infrastructure behind the scenes at Chelsea - he effectively made himself DOF. I was reading something the other day that said he had set Chelsea back years without his decisions already.
Ambition is great - but he quite literally does not have the first clue about what he is doing which is why they are in such a mess.
The difference between Boehly and Levy is that financially/commercially Levy is as smart as they come and the one thing we can always be assured of is that there is no financial black hole at the club. Levy still doesn’t have a clue in terms of football though - let’s hope Munn does.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 42 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
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Yeh the nonsense that Chelsea are suddenly going to morph into some trophy winning machine just because Pochettino is going their is for the birds Boehly is totally clueless, and Spurs should be thankful they have Levy and not him.
As you say Chelsea are a complete shambles, and I reckon they are now in serious financial trouble. They will never shift on most of the players they want to get out, because of the wages the are on.
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I think the players Cheslea can move on will be the ones like Gallagher, Mount, Loftus Cheek, Chalobah. They are still youngish, English and have something of offer and will not be on massive wages. Getting rid of these will bring some money in to balance teh books but really its the other players that are the massive drain and need moving on, but they are the expensive ones on big wages:
Sorts like Kepa, Mendy, Pulisic, Lukaku, Yiyech, Cucurella, Aubameyang they are going to have to take hits on these players just to get rid.
I hope most sensible Chairmen see the potential mess CFC can be in and exploit it.
What will inhibit them is that they would be very very foolish to speculate on selling these players. If acting with any sense they would sell before buying, purely on the FFP position as carrying their wages and amortised transfer fee will be costing them millions.
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Your right, they can alleviate some of their problems by selling promising youngsters.
Their issue though is the mega contracts Boehly has doled out on absolute wasters that have 6/7 years to run - it will hold them back for half a decade unless they suddenly come good.
The reality is there are few clubs in world football that Chelsea can sell elite contract level players to because the wages are too high - Lukaku being a case in point.
They are in for a tough few years unless Poch can work a miracle
at least we'll have a nice kit to go with our stadium & training ground next season
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/10/nike-tottenham-23-24-home-kit.html
Shame about the Team, Manager, DOF & Chairman
I don't think we have to be worried about Kane going to Chelsea. I mean he knows the score, if he goes to Chelsea he will be hated by the Spurs fans he's built a relationship with all these years. Chelsea are also in no position to challenge for honours either. If he wants to leave to win things it will be to a club that gives him that chance as soon as possible I expect, given his age.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
I don't think we have to be worried about Kane going to Chelsea. I mean he knows the score, if he goes to Chelsea he will be hated by the Spurs fans he's built a relationship with all these years. Chelsea are also in no position to challenge for honours either. If he wants to leave to win things it will be to a club that gives him that chance as soon as possible I expect, given his age.
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I wonder if Newcastle would make a run at him..... would be quite the statement. They have the cash and he'd be an U/G on Calum Wilson with Isak a threat from wide areas. If they got him and Madison they'd certainly be up there challenging... they were solid defensively this year... Just drew a few too many.... He could make the difference.
Forster has been pants, he is not agile enough, the free kick he let in the other day was poor and he let in 4 goals from 4 shots v Varpool
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 23 seconds ago
Forster has been pants, he is not agile enough, the free kick he let in the other day was poor and he let in 4 goals from 4 shots v Varpool
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Yeah... I thought that about the free kick on Sat....Despite being a big old unit, he's pretty old and slow..... I suspect we might be after Reya or Dean Henderson
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
I don't think we have to be worried about Kane going to Chelsea. I mean he knows the score, if he goes to Chelsea he will be hated by the Spurs fans he's built a relationship with all these years. Chelsea are also in no position to challenge for honours either. If he wants to leave to win things it will be to a club that gives him that chance as soon as possible I expect, given his age.
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I wonder if Newcastle would make a run at him..... would be quite the statement. They have the cash and he'd be an U/G on Calum Wilson with Isak a threat from wide areas. If they got him and Madison they'd certainly be up there challenging... they were solid defensively this year... Just drew a few too many.... He could make the difference.
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I would if I were their manager/owner. They are clearly going places and have the money to afford Kane. If I was I'd be tempted as well. More hope of a trophy with them than with us.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
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Chelsea have a structure. Are you for real.
They are about to embark on their 4th manager in 12 months. They spent £600 million to go from 3rd to 13th.
Tell me exactly where the structure is? They are going backwards at an alarming rate.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
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Chelsea have a structure.Are you for real.
They are about to embark on their 4th manager in 12 months. They spent £600 million to go from 3rd to 13th.
Tell me exactly where the structure is? They are going backwards at an alarming rate.
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Its amazing how blinkered some are.
Folk like Fridge see big spending as Ambition.
It is only part of the picture, and achieving ones ambitions is different depending on who you are.
What Chelsea and since Man City have done is build their brand to the highest level at a time when financial restrictions on doing so were non existent. Once built, it is easier to then maintain your level if you have the big sponsors, the high kudos and prestige of a successful club and the high profile.
Spurs have not been able to compete financially over the years and while they have closed the gap and even overtaken CFC / Arsenal in terms of revenue it is the off-field stuff that has held us back.
Chelsea's position is interesting because their finances as a business are/were pretty sound, they have a quality academy that generates 10s millions most seasons. Now they have an off field set up which looks a bit clueless, so for all the millions spent if the rest aint right then, like us, they will not maximise their outcomes.
Its a tough job to take, and Poch will be under pressure. They cannot afford to be off the pace or fail to get UCL again. They need to hit the ground running and to go from where they are to Top 4 will be an ask especially with the increased amount of competition in the league now. Even Villa look threatening if they buy well this summer.
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 23 seconds ago
Forster has been pants, he is not agile enough, the free kick he let in the other day was poor and he let in 4 goals from 4 shots v Varpool
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Yeah... I thought that about the free kick on Sat....Despite being a big old unit, he's pretty old and slow..... I suspect we might be after Reya or Dean Henderson
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Yeah should definitely have got there...
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 23 seconds ago
Forster has been pants, he is not agile enough, the free kick he let in the other day was poor and he let in 4 goals from 4 shots v Varpool
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Yeah... I thought that about the free kick on Sat....Despite being a big old unit, he's pretty old and slow..... I suspect we might be after Reya or Dean Henderson
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Luiz’s free kick was a good 6 feet inside the post, 99.9% of the time these would be saved. Say what you like about Hugo, he was rarely beaten from 20 yards or so and almost never by a shot so far inside the post.
Hugo’s problem now is that gets beaten at both the near and far posts. He was always suspect on near post shots but seems to have added the far post as well🥴
In general play he is still a great reflex shot stopper, however it is when he has the ball at his feet he is com_letdly lost😵💫🤬
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
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Chelsea have a structure.Are you for real.
They are about to embark on their 4th manager in 12 months. They spent £600 million to go from 3rd to 13th.
Tell me exactly where the structure is? They are going backwards at an alarming rate.
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Its amazing how blinkered some are.
Folk like Fridge see big spending as Ambition.
It is only part of the picture, and achieving ones ambitions is different depending on who you are.
What Chelsea and since Man City have done is build their brand to the highest level at a time when financial restrictions on doing so were non existent. Once built, it is easier to then maintain your level if you have the big sponsors, the high kudos and prestige of a successful club and the high profile.
Spurs have not been able to compete financially over the years and while they have closed the gap and even overtaken CFC / Arsenal in terms of revenue it is the off-field stuff that has held us back.
Chelsea's position is interesting because their finances as a business are/were pretty sound, they have a quality academy that generates 10s millions most seasons. Now they have an off field set up which looks a bit clueless, so for all the millions spent if the rest aint right then, like us, they will not maximise their outcomes.
Its a tough job to take, and Poch will be under pressure. They cannot afford to be off the pace or fail to get UCL again. They need to hit the ground running and to go from where they are to Top 4 will be an ask especially with the increased amount of competition in the league now. Even Villa look threatening if they buy well this summer.
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I've repeatedly said spending isn't Levy's biggest issue so I don't know where you've got that one from. It's always been about his decisions from managerial and director roles, to recruitment policy. They've all been muddled, confused and contradictory.
In response to Sandy's point, I've made it clear he's made mistakes but one thing you can't deny is that he's got an idea in his head of who he wants Chelsea to be. If it were all about the CL money he'd have just sat on Tuchel and raked it in. He didn't. He took a chance and went to for the project approach, probably because, to him, winning is only one part of the game, it's about how you play and what your club represents. Tuchel was fiery and the football was uninspiring so I partly agree with him in principal. Where he went wrong was with his scattergun approach to player recruitment. Too much at once. I happen to quite like his ideas on managers. I think he wants to move away from the hiring and firing approach synonymous with Abramovich to the more holistic calm of the project man on a long term deal. Potter and Poch make it perfectly clear what he's looking for.
You can laugh at them all you want but the fact remains that they will 100% be winning trophies long before we will largely because that's what Boehly wants. That's his goal. He's made some absolute howlers but he's now putting the parts in place to push on and learn from his mistakes. At least he's contrite. Levy is so allergic to taking blame, he's deliberately avoided re-hiring a manager he should never have sacked just to avoid admitting his own mistakes.
How on earth can you guys still back him? Honestly, how?
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
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Chelsea have a structure.Are you for real.
They are about to embark on their 4th manager in 12 months. They spent £600 million to go from 3rd to 13th.
Tell me exactly where the structure is? They are going backwards at an alarming rate.
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Its amazing how blinkered some are.
Folk like Fridge see big spending as Ambition.
It is only part of the picture, and achieving ones ambitions is different depending on who you are.
What Chelsea and since Man City have done is build their brand to the highest level at a time when financial restrictions on doing so were non existent. Once built, it is easier to then maintain your level if you have the big sponsors, the high kudos and prestige of a successful club and the high profile.
Spurs have not been able to compete financially over the years and while they have closed the gap and even overtaken CFC / Arsenal in terms of revenue it is the off-field stuff that has held us back.
Chelsea's position is interesting because their finances as a business are/were pretty sound, they have a quality academy that generates 10s millions most seasons. Now they have an off field set up which looks a bit clueless, so for all the millions spent if the rest aint right then, like us, they will not maximise their outcomes.
Its a tough job to take, and Poch will be under pressure. They cannot afford to be off the pace or fail to get UCL again. They need to hit the ground running and to go from where they are to Top 4 will be an ask especially with the increased amount of competition in the league now. Even Villa look threatening if they buy well this summer.
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I've repeatedly said spending isn't Levy's biggest issue so I don't know where you've got that one from. It's always been about his decisions from managerial and director roles, to recruitment policy. They've all been muddled, confused and contradictory.
In response to Sandy's point, I've made it clear he's made mistakes but one thing you can't deny is that he's got an idea in his head of who he wants Chelsea to be. If it were all about the CL money he'd have just sat on Tuchel and raked it in. He didn't. He took a chance and went to for the project approach, probably because, to him, winning is only one part of the game, it's about how you play and what your club represents. Tuchel was fiery and the football was uninspiring so I partly agree with him in principal. Where he went wrong was with his scattergun approach to player recruitment. Too much at once. I happen to quite like his ideas on managers. I think he wants to move away from the hiring and firing approach synonymous with Abramovich to the more holistic calm of the project man on a long term deal. Potter and Poch make it perfectly clear what he's looking for.
You can laugh at them all you want but the fact remains that they will 100% be winning trophies long before we will largely because that's what Boehly wants. That's his goal. He's made some absolute howlers but he's now putting the parts in place to push on and learn from his mistakes. At least he's contrite. Levy is so allergic to taking blame, he's deliberately avoided re-hiring a manager he should never have sacked just to avoid admitting his own mistakes.
How on earth can you guys still back him? Honestly, how?
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What is he putting in place? He has spent £600 million to go from a CL place to 13th, and is about to hire a guy who has not won a bean in his seven/eight years in the Prem. Boehly is clueless, and he is not pushing on at all.
I don't get what you are seeing that makes Chelsea look good right now.
Problem is we need homegrown players and they'll be overpriced to buy and the good ones will be tempted elsewhere
All the players we have produced have been quite samey and middling level
The core and spine of the team needs refreshing with a new GK, CBs and midfielder
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posted on 15/5/23
Kane "I want to win trophies"
Moves from the club that finish probably 7th to a club that finish 11th at best.
He would deserve slated for that i'm afraid.
posted on 15/5/23
Think if Chelsea go big for him this summer United will do the same.
posted on 15/5/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 42 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
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Yeh the nonsense that Chelsea are suddenly going to morph into some trophy winning machine just because Pochettino is going their is for the birds Boehly is totally clueless, and Spurs should be thankful they have Levy and not him.
As you say Chelsea are a complete shambles, and I reckon they are now in serious financial trouble. They will never shift on most of the players they want to get out, because of the wages the are on.
posted on 15/5/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 42 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
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Yeh the nonsense that Chelsea are suddenly going to morph into some trophy winning machine just because Pochettino is going their is for the birds Boehly is totally clueless, and Spurs should be thankful they have Levy and not him.
As you say Chelsea are a complete shambles, and I reckon they are now in serious financial trouble. They will never shift on most of the players they want to get out, because of the wages the are on.
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I think the players Cheslea can move on will be the ones like Gallagher, Mount, Loftus Cheek, Chalobah. They are still youngish, English and have something of offer and will not be on massive wages. Getting rid of these will bring some money in to balance teh books but really its the other players that are the massive drain and need moving on, but they are the expensive ones on big wages:
Sorts like Kepa, Mendy, Pulisic, Lukaku, Yiyech, Cucurella, Aubameyang they are going to have to take hits on these players just to get rid.
I hope most sensible Chairmen see the potential mess CFC can be in and exploit it.
What will inhibit them is that they would be very very foolish to speculate on selling these players. If acting with any sense they would sell before buying, purely on the FFP position as carrying their wages and amortised transfer fee will be costing them millions.
posted on 15/5/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
posted on 15/5/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
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This !
posted on 15/5/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
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Boehly removed the infrastructure behind the scenes at Chelsea - he effectively made himself DOF. I was reading something the other day that said he had set Chelsea back years without his decisions already.
Ambition is great - but he quite literally does not have the first clue about what he is doing which is why they are in such a mess.
The difference between Boehly and Levy is that financially/commercially Levy is as smart as they come and the one thing we can always be assured of is that there is no financial black hole at the club. Levy still doesn’t have a clue in terms of football though - let’s hope Munn does.
posted on 15/5/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 42 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh the nonsense that Chelsea are suddenly going to morph into some trophy winning machine just because Pochettino is going their is for the birds Boehly is totally clueless, and Spurs should be thankful they have Levy and not him.
As you say Chelsea are a complete shambles, and I reckon they are now in serious financial trouble. They will never shift on most of the players they want to get out, because of the wages the are on.
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I think the players Cheslea can move on will be the ones like Gallagher, Mount, Loftus Cheek, Chalobah. They are still youngish, English and have something of offer and will not be on massive wages. Getting rid of these will bring some money in to balance teh books but really its the other players that are the massive drain and need moving on, but they are the expensive ones on big wages:
Sorts like Kepa, Mendy, Pulisic, Lukaku, Yiyech, Cucurella, Aubameyang they are going to have to take hits on these players just to get rid.
I hope most sensible Chairmen see the potential mess CFC can be in and exploit it.
What will inhibit them is that they would be very very foolish to speculate on selling these players. If acting with any sense they would sell before buying, purely on the FFP position as carrying their wages and amortised transfer fee will be costing them millions.
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Your right, they can alleviate some of their problems by selling promising youngsters.
Their issue though is the mega contracts Boehly has doled out on absolute wasters that have 6/7 years to run - it will hold them back for half a decade unless they suddenly come good.
The reality is there are few clubs in world football that Chelsea can sell elite contract level players to because the wages are too high - Lukaku being a case in point.
They are in for a tough few years unless Poch can work a miracle
posted on 15/5/23
at least we'll have a nice kit to go with our stadium & training ground next season
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/10/nike-tottenham-23-24-home-kit.html
Shame about the Team, Manager, DOF & Chairman
posted on 15/5/23
I don't think we have to be worried about Kane going to Chelsea. I mean he knows the score, if he goes to Chelsea he will be hated by the Spurs fans he's built a relationship with all these years. Chelsea are also in no position to challenge for honours either. If he wants to leave to win things it will be to a club that gives him that chance as soon as possible I expect, given his age.
posted on 15/5/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
I don't think we have to be worried about Kane going to Chelsea. I mean he knows the score, if he goes to Chelsea he will be hated by the Spurs fans he's built a relationship with all these years. Chelsea are also in no position to challenge for honours either. If he wants to leave to win things it will be to a club that gives him that chance as soon as possible I expect, given his age.
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I wonder if Newcastle would make a run at him..... would be quite the statement. They have the cash and he'd be an U/G on Calum Wilson with Isak a threat from wide areas. If they got him and Madison they'd certainly be up there challenging... they were solid defensively this year... Just drew a few too many.... He could make the difference.
posted on 15/5/23
Forster has been pants, he is not agile enough, the free kick he let in the other day was poor and he let in 4 goals from 4 shots v Varpool
posted on 15/5/23
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 23 seconds ago
Forster has been pants, he is not agile enough, the free kick he let in the other day was poor and he let in 4 goals from 4 shots v Varpool
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Yeah... I thought that about the free kick on Sat....Despite being a big old unit, he's pretty old and slow..... I suspect we might be after Reya or Dean Henderson
posted on 15/5/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
I don't think we have to be worried about Kane going to Chelsea. I mean he knows the score, if he goes to Chelsea he will be hated by the Spurs fans he's built a relationship with all these years. Chelsea are also in no position to challenge for honours either. If he wants to leave to win things it will be to a club that gives him that chance as soon as possible I expect, given his age.
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I wonder if Newcastle would make a run at him..... would be quite the statement. They have the cash and he'd be an U/G on Calum Wilson with Isak a threat from wide areas. If they got him and Madison they'd certainly be up there challenging... they were solid defensively this year... Just drew a few too many.... He could make the difference.
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I would if I were their manager/owner. They are clearly going places and have the money to afford Kane. If I was I'd be tempted as well. More hope of a trophy with them than with us.
posted on 15/5/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
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Chelsea have a structure. Are you for real.
They are about to embark on their 4th manager in 12 months. They spent £600 million to go from 3rd to 13th.
Tell me exactly where the structure is? They are going backwards at an alarming rate.
posted on 15/5/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
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Chelsea have a structure.Are you for real.
They are about to embark on their 4th manager in 12 months. They spent £600 million to go from 3rd to 13th.
Tell me exactly where the structure is? They are going backwards at an alarming rate.
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Its amazing how blinkered some are.
Folk like Fridge see big spending as Ambition.
It is only part of the picture, and achieving ones ambitions is different depending on who you are.
What Chelsea and since Man City have done is build their brand to the highest level at a time when financial restrictions on doing so were non existent. Once built, it is easier to then maintain your level if you have the big sponsors, the high kudos and prestige of a successful club and the high profile.
Spurs have not been able to compete financially over the years and while they have closed the gap and even overtaken CFC / Arsenal in terms of revenue it is the off-field stuff that has held us back.
Chelsea's position is interesting because their finances as a business are/were pretty sound, they have a quality academy that generates 10s millions most seasons. Now they have an off field set up which looks a bit clueless, so for all the millions spent if the rest aint right then, like us, they will not maximise their outcomes.
Its a tough job to take, and Poch will be under pressure. They cannot afford to be off the pace or fail to get UCL again. They need to hit the ground running and to go from where they are to Top 4 will be an ask especially with the increased amount of competition in the league now. Even Villa look threatening if they buy well this summer.
posted on 15/5/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 23 seconds ago
Forster has been pants, he is not agile enough, the free kick he let in the other day was poor and he let in 4 goals from 4 shots v Varpool
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Yeah... I thought that about the free kick on Sat....Despite being a big old unit, he's pretty old and slow..... I suspect we might be after Reya or Dean Henderson
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Yeah should definitely have got there...
posted on 15/5/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 23 seconds ago
Forster has been pants, he is not agile enough, the free kick he let in the other day was poor and he let in 4 goals from 4 shots v Varpool
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Yeah... I thought that about the free kick on Sat....Despite being a big old unit, he's pretty old and slow..... I suspect we might be after Reya or Dean Henderson
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Luiz’s free kick was a good 6 feet inside the post, 99.9% of the time these would be saved. Say what you like about Hugo, he was rarely beaten from 20 yards or so and almost never by a shot so far inside the post.
Hugo’s problem now is that gets beaten at both the near and far posts. He was always suspect on near post shots but seems to have added the far post as well🥴
In general play he is still a great reflex shot stopper, however it is when he has the ball at his feet he is com_letdly lost😵💫🤬
posted on 15/5/23
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chelsea have a structure.Are you for real.
They are about to embark on their 4th manager in 12 months. They spent £600 million to go from 3rd to 13th.
Tell me exactly where the structure is? They are going backwards at an alarming rate.
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Its amazing how blinkered some are.
Folk like Fridge see big spending as Ambition.
It is only part of the picture, and achieving ones ambitions is different depending on who you are.
What Chelsea and since Man City have done is build their brand to the highest level at a time when financial restrictions on doing so were non existent. Once built, it is easier to then maintain your level if you have the big sponsors, the high kudos and prestige of a successful club and the high profile.
Spurs have not been able to compete financially over the years and while they have closed the gap and even overtaken CFC / Arsenal in terms of revenue it is the off-field stuff that has held us back.
Chelsea's position is interesting because their finances as a business are/were pretty sound, they have a quality academy that generates 10s millions most seasons. Now they have an off field set up which looks a bit clueless, so for all the millions spent if the rest aint right then, like us, they will not maximise their outcomes.
Its a tough job to take, and Poch will be under pressure. They cannot afford to be off the pace or fail to get UCL again. They need to hit the ground running and to go from where they are to Top 4 will be an ask especially with the increased amount of competition in the league now. Even Villa look threatening if they buy well this summer.
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I've repeatedly said spending isn't Levy's biggest issue so I don't know where you've got that one from. It's always been about his decisions from managerial and director roles, to recruitment policy. They've all been muddled, confused and contradictory.
In response to Sandy's point, I've made it clear he's made mistakes but one thing you can't deny is that he's got an idea in his head of who he wants Chelsea to be. If it were all about the CL money he'd have just sat on Tuchel and raked it in. He didn't. He took a chance and went to for the project approach, probably because, to him, winning is only one part of the game, it's about how you play and what your club represents. Tuchel was fiery and the football was uninspiring so I partly agree with him in principal. Where he went wrong was with his scattergun approach to player recruitment. Too much at once. I happen to quite like his ideas on managers. I think he wants to move away from the hiring and firing approach synonymous with Abramovich to the more holistic calm of the project man on a long term deal. Potter and Poch make it perfectly clear what he's looking for.
You can laugh at them all you want but the fact remains that they will 100% be winning trophies long before we will largely because that's what Boehly wants. That's his goal. He's made some absolute howlers but he's now putting the parts in place to push on and learn from his mistakes. At least he's contrite. Levy is so allergic to taking blame, he's deliberately avoided re-hiring a manager he should never have sacked just to avoid admitting his own mistakes.
How on earth can you guys still back him? Honestly, how?
posted on 15/5/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Why go to Chelsea - to play for a manager that never won anything with him before, to a club that is likely to finish bottom half this season, has a chairman that takes advice from James Corden about who the manager should be, a chairman that keeps going into the changing rooms.
Chelsea are a shambles - Poch will have them 6/7th at best next season and they will probably sack him for whoever the next fancy name is.
Boehly’s the best thing to happen to Spurs in years - clueless beyond belief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!!!
Have you seen who's in charge of us?
Yes, Boehly has made mistakes and yes he's learning on the job how to run a football club but one thing you can't argue with is his ambition. I'd rather be behind someone who makes mistakes but really wants success than someone who feels success is secondary to profit. We're in no position to judge any football club right now. Just look at the recruitment process over there. They've had less time than we have but have already settled on a structure, a philosophy and a manager. We don't have any of those three, despite the fact that We knew Conte was off at Christmas. So who are the real clowns?
There's a perverse part of me that kind of wants Poch to smash it over there so it silences the doubters once and for all and puts even more pressure on Levy. It's not a nice feeling but it would prove that we had a world class manager on our books, sacked him and then refused to get him back when we had the chance. The very fact ex-players and rumoured current players were pushing for him says everything.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chelsea have a structure.Are you for real.
They are about to embark on their 4th manager in 12 months. They spent £600 million to go from 3rd to 13th.
Tell me exactly where the structure is? They are going backwards at an alarming rate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its amazing how blinkered some are.
Folk like Fridge see big spending as Ambition.
It is only part of the picture, and achieving ones ambitions is different depending on who you are.
What Chelsea and since Man City have done is build their brand to the highest level at a time when financial restrictions on doing so were non existent. Once built, it is easier to then maintain your level if you have the big sponsors, the high kudos and prestige of a successful club and the high profile.
Spurs have not been able to compete financially over the years and while they have closed the gap and even overtaken CFC / Arsenal in terms of revenue it is the off-field stuff that has held us back.
Chelsea's position is interesting because their finances as a business are/were pretty sound, they have a quality academy that generates 10s millions most seasons. Now they have an off field set up which looks a bit clueless, so for all the millions spent if the rest aint right then, like us, they will not maximise their outcomes.
Its a tough job to take, and Poch will be under pressure. They cannot afford to be off the pace or fail to get UCL again. They need to hit the ground running and to go from where they are to Top 4 will be an ask especially with the increased amount of competition in the league now. Even Villa look threatening if they buy well this summer.
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I've repeatedly said spending isn't Levy's biggest issue so I don't know where you've got that one from. It's always been about his decisions from managerial and director roles, to recruitment policy. They've all been muddled, confused and contradictory.
In response to Sandy's point, I've made it clear he's made mistakes but one thing you can't deny is that he's got an idea in his head of who he wants Chelsea to be. If it were all about the CL money he'd have just sat on Tuchel and raked it in. He didn't. He took a chance and went to for the project approach, probably because, to him, winning is only one part of the game, it's about how you play and what your club represents. Tuchel was fiery and the football was uninspiring so I partly agree with him in principal. Where he went wrong was with his scattergun approach to player recruitment. Too much at once. I happen to quite like his ideas on managers. I think he wants to move away from the hiring and firing approach synonymous with Abramovich to the more holistic calm of the project man on a long term deal. Potter and Poch make it perfectly clear what he's looking for.
You can laugh at them all you want but the fact remains that they will 100% be winning trophies long before we will largely because that's what Boehly wants. That's his goal. He's made some absolute howlers but he's now putting the parts in place to push on and learn from his mistakes. At least he's contrite. Levy is so allergic to taking blame, he's deliberately avoided re-hiring a manager he should never have sacked just to avoid admitting his own mistakes.
How on earth can you guys still back him? Honestly, how?
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What is he putting in place? He has spent £600 million to go from a CL place to 13th, and is about to hire a guy who has not won a bean in his seven/eight years in the Prem. Boehly is clueless, and he is not pushing on at all.
I don't get what you are seeing that makes Chelsea look good right now.
posted on 16/5/23
Problem is we need homegrown players and they'll be overpriced to buy and the good ones will be tempted elsewhere
All the players we have produced have been quite samey and middling level
posted on 16/5/23
The core and spine of the team needs refreshing with a new GK, CBs and midfielder
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