Reached a CL final.
Finished 2nd in the Prem, best finish for 60 seasons.
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Yet the manager who got you those is bang average apparently..
Great Post Sandy
Daniel Levy seems to be a running joke on this site, even amongst Spurs fans, but he could have done what Leeds and Chelsea did at the start of the millennium, and spent beyond our means, banking on CL football to sustain us financially. Chelsea got lucky and were taken over be a war criminal sympathiser, but Leeds are what could've happened to Spurs if Levy listened to the crybaby fans.
Besides that, for all of Chelseas spending, they should be under investigating for writing off £1.5bil debt.
Under Daniel Levy we have won 1 trophy in 22 years whilst he's taken ticket prices from standard prem pricing to highest in the world.
Daniel Levy has achieved great things for ENIC. He's facked the football club and its supporters though.
Giving him credit for ‘giving you’ Harry Kane is a reach
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/guardiola-man-city-target-tottenham-b1083276.html
The sacrifice Levy made to birth Harry Kane must not be forgotten
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
Previously, I would have agreed with a fair bit of what you have said above, but to place Ryan Mason in charge for a second time when there were very good other options is beyond negligent.
I use the word `Negligent` deliberately as it is the legal term used when reviewing someone's suitability to continue in their job.
For all the good stuff beforehand, what has been allocated to happen again is unforgivable and has cost Spurs millions.
I for one, would now like to see someone else in charge.
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 22 minutes ago
Reached a CL final.
Finished 2nd in the Prem, best finish for 60 seasons.
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Yet the manager who got you those is bang average apparently..
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And who recruited that manager. DANIEL LEVY. Or doesn`t that count in the ante Levy agenda.
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 17 minutes ago
Giving him credit for ‘giving you’ Harry Kane is a reach
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Well which Chairman recruited Kane then? I thought out managers had no input in player recruitment according to large sections of our fan bases.
So if Levy apparently recruited all the bad players, then he also recruited the good players like Kane.
comment by King of the Gil (U7905)
posted 23 minutes ago
Under Daniel Levy we have won 1 trophy in 22 years whilst he's taken ticket prices from standard prem pricing to highest in the world.
Daniel Levy has achieved great things for ENIC. He's facked the football club and its supporters though.
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Very clever and astute of Daniel Levy to have the highest ticket prices in the world. And still sell out every match. Any other person would be getting businessman of the year if they did that.
As usual the truth is somewhere in between. Off the pitch Levy has been brilliant, on the pitch he was an early success but it first turned stale and now is beginning to rot.
He has had a good tenure aside from trophies and seeing us play CL regularly was taking us to new heights - to make a final was incredible.
However, the last 4/5 seasons have been nothing short of disastrous and have set the club back significantly. Levy needs to take a complete step back from football operations now before we’re dragged down further as he has completely lost the plot. Bring in Slot, let Munn go the rest of the football stuff, set a budget each year - other than that, faaaack off, just do the commercial stuff and if you are bored then go and tinker in the garden
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 17 minutes ago
Giving him credit for ‘giving you’ Harry Kane is a reach
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Well which Chairman recruited Kane then? I thought out managers had no input in player recruitment according to large sections of our fan bases.
So if Levy apparently recruited all the bad players, then he also recruited the good players like Kane.
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Yeah, Levy should definitely get credit for ‘recruiting’ the 11 year-old Harry Kane
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
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Excellent post. But most of our fans won`t get it. Everything bad is Levy`s fault, and everything good is nothing to do with Levy. Very one side slant on things from large sections of our fanbase. They should remember where Spurs were drifting prior to ENIC taking over.
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 30 seconds ago
As usual the truth is somewhere in between. Off the pitch Levy has been brilliant, on the pitch he was an early success but it first turned stale and now is beginning to rot.
He has had a good tenure aside from trophies and seeing us play CL regularly was taking us to new heights - to make a final was incredible.
However, the last 4/5 seasons have been nothing short of disastrous and have set the club back significantly. Levy needs to take a complete step back from football operations now before we’re dragged down further as he has completely lost the plot. Bring in Slot, let Munn go the rest of the football stuff, set a budget each year - other than that, faaaack off, just do the commercial stuff and if you are bored then go and tinker in the garden
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This seems to me to be roughly where the bulk of Spurs fans are at. Would you say that’s fair? Majority opinion?
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
As usual the truth is somewhere in between. Off the pitch Levy has been brilliant, on the pitch he was an early success but it first turned stale and now is beginning to rot.
He has had a good tenure aside from trophies and seeing us play CL regularly was taking us to new heights - to make a final was incredible.
However, the last 4/5 seasons have been nothing short of disastrous and have set the club back significantly. Levy needs to take a complete step back from football operations now before we’re dragged down further as he has completely lost the plot. Bring in Slot, let Munn go the rest of the football stuff, set a budget each year - other than that, faaaack off, just do the commercial stuff and if you are bored then go and tinker in the garden
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Would you just go away and tinker in the garden if you had just put massive investment into your club. I doubt it. He has as much right to have input into his OWN club, as we do as supporters. Probably moreso. We can just walk away if we want to, no financial downside. He cannot just walk away until he finds a buyer, so he has to be very heavily involved. You do not have to be Einstein to know that.
Levy will go nowhere, until a buyer comes in. So Simple.
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 17 minutes ago
Giving him credit for ‘giving you’ Harry Kane is a reach
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Well which Chairman recruited Kane then? I thought out managers had no input in player recruitment according to large sections of our fan bases.
So if Levy apparently recruited all the bad players, then he also recruited the good players like Kane.
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Yeah, Levy should definitely get credit for ‘recruiting’ the 11 year-old Harry Kane
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It all make sense. Levy the super scout is in the wrong job.
comment by Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 14 minutes ago
Previously, I would have agreed with a fair bit of what you have said above, but to place Ryan Mason in charge for a second time when there were very good other options is beyond negligent.
I use the word `Negligent` deliberately as it is the legal term used when reviewing someone's suitability to continue in their job.
For all the good stuff beforehand, what has been allocated to happen again is unforgivable and has cost Spurs millions.
I for one, would now like to see someone else in charge.
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Not the only owner that has done that though is he? Chelsea have just remployed Lampard. It`s only a temporary measure, so no big deal.
And it was very unlikely any full time manager would have come with just a dozen or so games to play.
New season, fresh start, new manager. Makes sense.
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 17 minutes ago
Giving him credit for ‘giving you’ Harry Kane is a reach
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Well which Chairman recruited Kane then? I thought out managers had no input in player recruitment according to large sections of our fan bases.
So if Levy apparently recruited all the bad players, then he also recruited the good players like Kane.
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Yeah, Levy should definitely get credit for ‘recruiting’ the 11 year-old Harry Kane
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Well he was the Chairman at the time. So who would you say gets the credit? Don`t tell me the manager either.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
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Excellent post. But most of our fans won`t get it. Everything bad is Levy`s fault, and everything good is nothing to do with Levy. Very one side slant on things from large sections of our fanbase. They should remember where Spurs were drifting prior to ENIC taking over.
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Why can't you give Poch any credit then for those high league finishes and the CL final? You continuously tell us how rubbish he was and achieved nothing. Serial loser I think your words were.
Anyway, your hypocrisy aside, I do half agree with you. Levy does deserve some credit. The club is in a far better position than it was and the new stadium, love it or not, will secure the clubs future for many generations. It had to be done and he nailed it. I think he also deserves credit for keep Kane at the club for as long as he has.
However, I think it's clear that his time has come to an end and he needs to step aside. He's become the focus of everyone's hate (although it still baffles me how our players get such a free ride from our supporters) and is therefore a distraction. If he loves the club as much as he says, he should do the right thing.
Off the pitch Levy has been superb and as good as you could ask for.
On the footballing side I think he is right at the bottom.
The way he negotiates with other clubs is downright cringey - so many chairmen and agents have said the same.
He just seems to make Spurs look so amateur and 2nd rate.
Not befitting the image he is trying to represent that we are a "big" club.
Like he's playing a chess match and has to either win or have the last say in things.
The Dynamo president said when negotiating for Modric, he asked for a couple of Spurs jerseys as part for the deal.
It's states in press by Magic that Levy agreed to this, but then deducted the cost of both shirts from the final Modric deal.
I mean seriously man WTAF
*stated in the Press by Mamiç
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
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Excellent post. But most of our fans won`t get it. Everything bad is Levy`s fault, and everything good is nothing to do with Levy. Very one side slant on things from large sections of our fanbase. They should remember where Spurs were drifting prior to ENIC taking over.
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Why can't you give Poch any credit then for those high league finishes and the CL final? You continuously tell us how rubbish he was and achieved nothing. Serial loser I think your words were.
Anyway, your hypocrisy aside, I do half agree with you. Levy does deserve some credit. The club is in a far better position than it was and the new stadium, love it or not, will secure the clubs future for many generations. It had to be done and he nailed it. I think he also deserves credit for keep Kane at the club for as long as he has.
However, I think it's clear that his time has come to an end and he needs to step aside. He's become the focus of everyone's hate (although it still baffles me how our players get such a free ride from our supporters) and is therefore a distraction. If he loves the club as much as he says, he should do the right thing.
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This article is about Levy and not Pochettino. But I did give Pochettino credit for his first three seasons, never have I said I didn't. But his last season was horrendous, and he was rightfully sacked, as any other manager would have been. I have since long moved on.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
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Excellent post. But most of our fans won`t get it. Everything bad is Levy`s fault, and everything good is nothing to do with Levy. Very one side slant on things from large sections of our fanbase. They should remember where Spurs were drifting prior to ENIC taking over.
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Why can't you give Poch any credit then for those high league finishes and the CL final? You continuously tell us how rubbish he was and achieved nothing. Serial loser I think your words were.
Anyway, your hypocrisy aside, I do half agree with you. Levy does deserve some credit. The club is in a far better position than it was and the new stadium, love it or not, will secure the clubs future for many generations. It had to be done and he nailed it. I think he also deserves credit for keep Kane at the club for as long as he has.
However, I think it's clear that his time has come to an end and he needs to step aside. He's become the focus of everyone's hate (although it still baffles me how our players get such a free ride from our supporters) and is therefore a distraction. If he loves the club as much as he says, he should do the right thing.
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This article is about Levy and not Pochettino. But I did give Pochettino credit for his first three seasons, never have I said I didn't. But his last season was horrendous, and he was rightfully sacked, as any other manager would have been. I have since long moved on.
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And since that (incorrect) sacking, the club has nose dived. That's all on Levy's shoulders. He knows his time is up.
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posted 13 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
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Excellent post. But most of our fans won`t get it. Everything bad is Levy`s fault, and everything good is nothing to do with Levy. Very one side slant on things from large sections of our fanbase. They should remember where Spurs were drifting prior to ENIC taking over.
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Why can't you give Poch any credit then for those high league finishes and the CL final? You continuously tell us how rubbish he was and achieved nothing. Serial loser I think your words were.
Anyway, your hypocrisy aside, I do half agree with you. Levy does deserve some credit. The club is in a far better position than it was and the new stadium, love it or not, will secure the clubs future for many generations. It had to be done and he nailed it. I think he also deserves credit for keep Kane at the club for as long as he has.
However, I think it's clear that his time has come to an end and he needs to step aside. He's become the focus of everyone's hate (although it still baffles me how our players get such a free ride from our supporters) and is therefore a distraction. If he loves the club as much as he says, he should do the right thing.
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This article is about Levy and not Pochettino. But I did give Pochettino credit for his first three seasons, never have I said I didn't. But his last season was horrendous, and he was rightfully sacked, as any other manager would have been. I have since long moved on.
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And since that (incorrect) sacking, the club has nose dived. That's all on Levy's shoulders. He knows his time is up.
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It was a very correct sacking, and since then Pochettino has been sacked again. So why was Levy wrong? Football is a results business, and Pochettino was only taking Spurs one way, so was rightfully sacked. Plenty more successful managers than Pochettino have been sacked.
Conte was sacked when Spurs were 4th. Pochettino was sacked when Spurs were like 13th. So what was odd about him getting sacked?
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posted on 24/5/23
Reached a CL final.
Finished 2nd in the Prem, best finish for 60 seasons.
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Yet the manager who got you those is bang average apparently..
posted on 24/5/23
Great Post Sandy
Daniel Levy seems to be a running joke on this site, even amongst Spurs fans, but he could have done what Leeds and Chelsea did at the start of the millennium, and spent beyond our means, banking on CL football to sustain us financially. Chelsea got lucky and were taken over be a war criminal sympathiser, but Leeds are what could've happened to Spurs if Levy listened to the crybaby fans.
Besides that, for all of Chelseas spending, they should be under investigating for writing off £1.5bil debt.
posted on 24/5/23
Under Daniel Levy we have won 1 trophy in 22 years whilst he's taken ticket prices from standard prem pricing to highest in the world.
Daniel Levy has achieved great things for ENIC. He's facked the football club and its supporters though.
posted on 24/5/23
Giving him credit for ‘giving you’ Harry Kane is a reach
posted on 24/5/23
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/guardiola-man-city-target-tottenham-b1083276.html
posted on 24/5/23
The sacrifice Levy made to birth Harry Kane must not be forgotten
posted on 24/5/23
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
posted on 24/5/23
Previously, I would have agreed with a fair bit of what you have said above, but to place Ryan Mason in charge for a second time when there were very good other options is beyond negligent.
I use the word `Negligent` deliberately as it is the legal term used when reviewing someone's suitability to continue in their job.
For all the good stuff beforehand, what has been allocated to happen again is unforgivable and has cost Spurs millions.
I for one, would now like to see someone else in charge.
posted on 24/5/23
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 22 minutes ago
Reached a CL final.
Finished 2nd in the Prem, best finish for 60 seasons.
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Yet the manager who got you those is bang average apparently..
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And who recruited that manager. DANIEL LEVY. Or doesn`t that count in the ante Levy agenda.
posted on 24/5/23
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 17 minutes ago
Giving him credit for ‘giving you’ Harry Kane is a reach
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Well which Chairman recruited Kane then? I thought out managers had no input in player recruitment according to large sections of our fan bases.
So if Levy apparently recruited all the bad players, then he also recruited the good players like Kane.
posted on 24/5/23
comment by King of the Gil (U7905)
posted 23 minutes ago
Under Daniel Levy we have won 1 trophy in 22 years whilst he's taken ticket prices from standard prem pricing to highest in the world.
Daniel Levy has achieved great things for ENIC. He's facked the football club and its supporters though.
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Very clever and astute of Daniel Levy to have the highest ticket prices in the world. And still sell out every match. Any other person would be getting businessman of the year if they did that.
posted on 24/5/23
As usual the truth is somewhere in between. Off the pitch Levy has been brilliant, on the pitch he was an early success but it first turned stale and now is beginning to rot.
He has had a good tenure aside from trophies and seeing us play CL regularly was taking us to new heights - to make a final was incredible.
However, the last 4/5 seasons have been nothing short of disastrous and have set the club back significantly. Levy needs to take a complete step back from football operations now before we’re dragged down further as he has completely lost the plot. Bring in Slot, let Munn go the rest of the football stuff, set a budget each year - other than that, faaaack off, just do the commercial stuff and if you are bored then go and tinker in the garden
posted on 24/5/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 17 minutes ago
Giving him credit for ‘giving you’ Harry Kane is a reach
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Well which Chairman recruited Kane then? I thought out managers had no input in player recruitment according to large sections of our fan bases.
So if Levy apparently recruited all the bad players, then he also recruited the good players like Kane.
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Yeah, Levy should definitely get credit for ‘recruiting’ the 11 year-old Harry Kane
posted on 24/5/23
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
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Excellent post. But most of our fans won`t get it. Everything bad is Levy`s fault, and everything good is nothing to do with Levy. Very one side slant on things from large sections of our fanbase. They should remember where Spurs were drifting prior to ENIC taking over.
posted on 24/5/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 30 seconds ago
As usual the truth is somewhere in between. Off the pitch Levy has been brilliant, on the pitch he was an early success but it first turned stale and now is beginning to rot.
He has had a good tenure aside from trophies and seeing us play CL regularly was taking us to new heights - to make a final was incredible.
However, the last 4/5 seasons have been nothing short of disastrous and have set the club back significantly. Levy needs to take a complete step back from football operations now before we’re dragged down further as he has completely lost the plot. Bring in Slot, let Munn go the rest of the football stuff, set a budget each year - other than that, faaaack off, just do the commercial stuff and if you are bored then go and tinker in the garden
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This seems to me to be roughly where the bulk of Spurs fans are at. Would you say that’s fair? Majority opinion?
posted on 24/5/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
As usual the truth is somewhere in between. Off the pitch Levy has been brilliant, on the pitch he was an early success but it first turned stale and now is beginning to rot.
He has had a good tenure aside from trophies and seeing us play CL regularly was taking us to new heights - to make a final was incredible.
However, the last 4/5 seasons have been nothing short of disastrous and have set the club back significantly. Levy needs to take a complete step back from football operations now before we’re dragged down further as he has completely lost the plot. Bring in Slot, let Munn go the rest of the football stuff, set a budget each year - other than that, faaaack off, just do the commercial stuff and if you are bored then go and tinker in the garden
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Would you just go away and tinker in the garden if you had just put massive investment into your club. I doubt it. He has as much right to have input into his OWN club, as we do as supporters. Probably moreso. We can just walk away if we want to, no financial downside. He cannot just walk away until he finds a buyer, so he has to be very heavily involved. You do not have to be Einstein to know that.
Levy will go nowhere, until a buyer comes in. So Simple.
posted on 24/5/23
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 17 minutes ago
Giving him credit for ‘giving you’ Harry Kane is a reach
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Well which Chairman recruited Kane then? I thought out managers had no input in player recruitment according to large sections of our fan bases.
So if Levy apparently recruited all the bad players, then he also recruited the good players like Kane.
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Yeah, Levy should definitely get credit for ‘recruiting’ the 11 year-old Harry Kane
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It all make sense. Levy the super scout is in the wrong job.
posted on 24/5/23
comment by Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 14 minutes ago
Previously, I would have agreed with a fair bit of what you have said above, but to place Ryan Mason in charge for a second time when there were very good other options is beyond negligent.
I use the word `Negligent` deliberately as it is the legal term used when reviewing someone's suitability to continue in their job.
For all the good stuff beforehand, what has been allocated to happen again is unforgivable and has cost Spurs millions.
I for one, would now like to see someone else in charge.
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Not the only owner that has done that though is he? Chelsea have just remployed Lampard. It`s only a temporary measure, so no big deal.
And it was very unlikely any full time manager would have come with just a dozen or so games to play.
New season, fresh start, new manager. Makes sense.
posted on 24/5/23
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 17 minutes ago
Giving him credit for ‘giving you’ Harry Kane is a reach
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Well which Chairman recruited Kane then? I thought out managers had no input in player recruitment according to large sections of our fan bases.
So if Levy apparently recruited all the bad players, then he also recruited the good players like Kane.
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Yeah, Levy should definitely get credit for ‘recruiting’ the 11 year-old Harry Kane
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Well he was the Chairman at the time. So who would you say gets the credit? Don`t tell me the manager either.
posted on 24/5/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
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Excellent post. But most of our fans won`t get it. Everything bad is Levy`s fault, and everything good is nothing to do with Levy. Very one side slant on things from large sections of our fanbase. They should remember where Spurs were drifting prior to ENIC taking over.
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Why can't you give Poch any credit then for those high league finishes and the CL final? You continuously tell us how rubbish he was and achieved nothing. Serial loser I think your words were.
Anyway, your hypocrisy aside, I do half agree with you. Levy does deserve some credit. The club is in a far better position than it was and the new stadium, love it or not, will secure the clubs future for many generations. It had to be done and he nailed it. I think he also deserves credit for keep Kane at the club for as long as he has.
However, I think it's clear that his time has come to an end and he needs to step aside. He's become the focus of everyone's hate (although it still baffles me how our players get such a free ride from our supporters) and is therefore a distraction. If he loves the club as much as he says, he should do the right thing.
posted on 24/5/23
Off the pitch Levy has been superb and as good as you could ask for.
On the footballing side I think he is right at the bottom.
The way he negotiates with other clubs is downright cringey - so many chairmen and agents have said the same.
He just seems to make Spurs look so amateur and 2nd rate.
Not befitting the image he is trying to represent that we are a "big" club.
Like he's playing a chess match and has to either win or have the last say in things.
The Dynamo president said when negotiating for Modric, he asked for a couple of Spurs jerseys as part for the deal.
It's states in press by Magic that Levy agreed to this, but then deducted the cost of both shirts from the final Modric deal.
I mean seriously man WTAF
posted on 24/5/23
*stated in the Press by Mamiç
posted on 24/5/23
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
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Excellent post. But most of our fans won`t get it. Everything bad is Levy`s fault, and everything good is nothing to do with Levy. Very one side slant on things from large sections of our fanbase. They should remember where Spurs were drifting prior to ENIC taking over.
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Why can't you give Poch any credit then for those high league finishes and the CL final? You continuously tell us how rubbish he was and achieved nothing. Serial loser I think your words were.
Anyway, your hypocrisy aside, I do half agree with you. Levy does deserve some credit. The club is in a far better position than it was and the new stadium, love it or not, will secure the clubs future for many generations. It had to be done and he nailed it. I think he also deserves credit for keep Kane at the club for as long as he has.
However, I think it's clear that his time has come to an end and he needs to step aside. He's become the focus of everyone's hate (although it still baffles me how our players get such a free ride from our supporters) and is therefore a distraction. If he loves the club as much as he says, he should do the right thing.
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This article is about Levy and not Pochettino. But I did give Pochettino credit for his first three seasons, never have I said I didn't. But his last season was horrendous, and he was rightfully sacked, as any other manager would have been. I have since long moved on.
posted on 24/5/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
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Excellent post. But most of our fans won`t get it. Everything bad is Levy`s fault, and everything good is nothing to do with Levy. Very one side slant on things from large sections of our fanbase. They should remember where Spurs were drifting prior to ENIC taking over.
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Why can't you give Poch any credit then for those high league finishes and the CL final? You continuously tell us how rubbish he was and achieved nothing. Serial loser I think your words were.
Anyway, your hypocrisy aside, I do half agree with you. Levy does deserve some credit. The club is in a far better position than it was and the new stadium, love it or not, will secure the clubs future for many generations. It had to be done and he nailed it. I think he also deserves credit for keep Kane at the club for as long as he has.
However, I think it's clear that his time has come to an end and he needs to step aside. He's become the focus of everyone's hate (although it still baffles me how our players get such a free ride from our supporters) and is therefore a distraction. If he loves the club as much as he says, he should do the right thing.
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This article is about Levy and not Pochettino. But I did give Pochettino credit for his first three seasons, never have I said I didn't. But his last season was horrendous, and he was rightfully sacked, as any other manager would have been. I have since long moved on.
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And since that (incorrect) sacking, the club has nose dived. That's all on Levy's shoulders. He knows his time is up.
posted on 24/5/23
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 minutes ago
To play Devil’s Advocate, since 2005, Spurs’ average league position has been around 5th, oscillating between 2nd/3rd and 7th/8th. That obviously brings European football just about every season, and has allowed the club to stabilise revenue at a much higher level and in turn attract better quality players and staff.
If you look at the 30 seasons prior to 2005, Spurs were firmly a mid table side, and never anything more than that. They finished fifth or better on only five occasions during that period.
In terms of elevating the club, well that *has* happened under Levy’s leadership. Spurs were unquestionably a mid table club. Now they’re a European tier club.
Personally, I believe that it isn’t for fans of other clubs to judge what Spurs fans (or any other fans) should desire for their club; and I sympathise strongly with those who don’t believe the financial commitment is 100% there, who aren’t happy about the ticket prices, who don’t believe the football side of the business is well run, and/or would just like a facking trophy and are more bothered about that than consistently finishing top six.
But even the most ardent members of the Levy Out brigade must acknowledge that as things stand, if he walked away tomorrow, he’d be leaving the club in a better state than he found it in?
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Excellent post. But most of our fans won`t get it. Everything bad is Levy`s fault, and everything good is nothing to do with Levy. Very one side slant on things from large sections of our fanbase. They should remember where Spurs were drifting prior to ENIC taking over.
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Why can't you give Poch any credit then for those high league finishes and the CL final? You continuously tell us how rubbish he was and achieved nothing. Serial loser I think your words were.
Anyway, your hypocrisy aside, I do half agree with you. Levy does deserve some credit. The club is in a far better position than it was and the new stadium, love it or not, will secure the clubs future for many generations. It had to be done and he nailed it. I think he also deserves credit for keep Kane at the club for as long as he has.
However, I think it's clear that his time has come to an end and he needs to step aside. He's become the focus of everyone's hate (although it still baffles me how our players get such a free ride from our supporters) and is therefore a distraction. If he loves the club as much as he says, he should do the right thing.
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This article is about Levy and not Pochettino. But I did give Pochettino credit for his first three seasons, never have I said I didn't. But his last season was horrendous, and he was rightfully sacked, as any other manager would have been. I have since long moved on.
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And since that (incorrect) sacking, the club has nose dived. That's all on Levy's shoulders. He knows his time is up.
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It was a very correct sacking, and since then Pochettino has been sacked again. So why was Levy wrong? Football is a results business, and Pochettino was only taking Spurs one way, so was rightfully sacked. Plenty more successful managers than Pochettino have been sacked.
Conte was sacked when Spurs were 4th. Pochettino was sacked when Spurs were like 13th. So what was odd about him getting sacked?
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