comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hopefully he can deal with the step up to an elite league after warming up at lower league level for a few years. He seems to have good ideas but it's still quite a leap. Let's face it, 11 of us being managed by Sandy would have a reasonable chance of winning a few trophies north of the border.
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You think the league is the hard part about managing Spurs?
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hopefully he can deal with the step up to an elite league after warming up at lower league level for a few years. He seems to have good ideas but it's still quite a leap. Let's face it, 11 of us being managed by Sandy would have a reasonable chance of winning a few trophies north of the border.
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You think the league is the hard part about managing Spurs?
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God no. Dealing with Levy is the hard part.
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hopefully he can deal with the step up to an elite league after warming up at lower league level for a few years. He seems to have good ideas but it's still quite a leap. Let's face it, 11 of us being managed by Sandy would have a reasonable chance of winning a few trophies north of the border.
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You think the league is the hard part about managing Spurs?
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God no. Dealing with Levy is the hard part.
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I think there are a number of things beyond the league, which as everyone knows is the worlds biggest / richest at present, and therefore going to be hard.
1. The chairman
2. The lazy squad
3. The apparent board of accountants
4. Grass roots development
5. Scouting
6. Fans unrealistic expectations
7. A lack of success, compounded by #5, brings needless pressure
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hopefully he can deal with the step up to an elite league after warming up at lower league level for a few years. He seems to have good ideas but it's still quite a leap. Let's face it, 11 of us being managed by Sandy would have a reasonable chance of winning a few trophies north of the border.
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You think the league is the hard part about managing Spurs?
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God no. Dealing with Levy is the hard part.
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I think there are a number of things beyond the league, which as everyone knows is the worlds biggest / richest at present, and therefore going to be hard.
1. The chairman
2. The lazy squad
3. The apparent board of accountants
4. Grass roots development
5. Scouting
6. Fans unrealistic expectations
7. A lack of success, compounded by #5, brings needless pressure
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1. Correct
2. Incorrect
3. Correct
4. 50/50
5. Correct
6. Correct
7. Correct
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hopefully he can deal with the step up to an elite league after warming up at lower league level for a few years. He seems to have good ideas but it's still quite a leap. Let's face it, 11 of us being managed by Sandy would have a reasonable chance of winning a few trophies north of the border.
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You think the league is the hard part about managing Spurs?
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God no. Dealing with Levy is the hard part.
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I think there are a number of things beyond the league, which as everyone knows is the worlds biggest / richest at present, and therefore going to be hard.
1. The chairman
2. The lazy squad
3. The apparent board of accountants
4. Grass roots development
5. Scouting
6. Fans unrealistic expectations
7. A lack of success, compounded by #5, brings needless pressure
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1. Correct
2. Incorrect
3. Correct
4. 50/50
5. Correct
6. Correct
7. Correct
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I disagree with 6, are spurs fans unrealistic compared to others - is it unrealistic to expect a side with a generational striker, the best Asian player to ever step foot on these shores, the French captain in goal and some expensive signings in between to compete for second rate trophies like the league cup and the Euro farmers cup or the Sevilla cup?
5 I agree with, but we have been very good at this previously in Levy’s era - Modric, Berbatov, Carrick, Defoe, Walker, Lennon, Bale etc - we used to buy these young under the radar players and turn them into absolute beasts - we simply one day decided to stop doing that
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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it's not just about what he's achieved it's about how he's done it, and having confidence in those methods
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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Rangers and Celtic have 6 elite a games a year, then Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen can be half decent, the rest is pub league. Getting top 3 with Spurs now means out doing 4 of Man City, Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle - Rangers and Celtic would be relegation battlers in the Prem, it’s just a different level down here
comment by Chris[topher] (U20930)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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it's not just about what he's achieved it's about how he's done it, and having confidence in those methods
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It’s like Pep though, everyone loves his football and how his teams play others off the park - but Barca, Bayern and City can afford to do that - can Pep do it with Crystal Palace?
Ange has had Japans biggest team and Scotlands - sure you can play teams off the park in that scenario.
Can he replicate that now at a side that finished 8th and is seen as a managers graveyard - 6/7th biggest budget in the league and plays at least a dozen elite level matches a year - i faaaacking hope so, but mark my words, it will be an unbelievable step up for him and he has his work cut out big time - because that’s where he is going to be, in the big time with the worlds smallest chairman
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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Rangers and Celtic have 6 elite a games a year, then Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen can be half decent, the rest is pub league. Getting top 3 with Spurs now means out doing 4 of Man City, Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle - Rangers and Celtic would be relegation battlers in the Prem, it’s just a different level down here
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The bottom half of the English prem is a dire standard, aside from Chelsea's dysfunctional collection of stars. I've no doubt that Rangers and Celtic would finish mid table with their current squads, then quickly build on that (well, Celtic would, we're a bit Spursy behind the scenes at the moment). A team with Joe Worrall and Scott McKenna at the heart of their defence managed to stay up this season ffs you can shiiit talk other countries but there's a reason Man City skelp the wee teams in your league on such a regular basis.
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posted 22 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Chris[topher] (U20930)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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it's not just about what he's achieved it's about how he's done it, and having confidence in those methods
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It’s like Pep though, everyone loves his football and how his teams play others off the park - but Barca, Bayern and City can afford to do that - can Pep do it with Crystal Palace?
Ange has had Japans biggest team and Scotlands - sure you can play teams off the park in that scenario.
Can he replicate that now at a side that finished 8th and is seen as a managers graveyard - 6/7th biggest budget in the league and plays at least a dozen elite level matches a year - i faaaacking hope so, but mark my words, it will be an unbelievable step up for him and he has his work cut out big time - because that’s where he is going to be, in the big time with the worlds smallest chairman
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we won't be winning the league next season but we'll be getting results and playing well - look at Brighton. it's not like for everybody but city you have to choose between good football and results
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
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The risk is that we have been CL regulars, finalists in 2019 - who was the last Scottish club to make the final? Was colour TV around?
We are a club that is capable of being in there and mixing it with the elite sides - we are also capable of being pizz like last season.
Nuno was punted after having us in ninth place after a few months - I can easily see Ange replicating that, we need to start moving forwards again
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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Rangers and Celtic have 6 elite a games a year, then Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen can be half decent, the rest is pub league. Getting top 3 with Spurs now means out doing 4 of Man City, Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle - Rangers and Celtic would be relegation battlers in the Prem, it’s just a different level down here
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The bottom half of the English prem is a dire standard, aside from Chelsea's dysfunctional collection of stars. I've no doubt that Rangers and Celtic would finish mid table with their current squads, then quickly build on that (well, Celtic would, we're a bit Spursy behind the scenes at the moment). A team with Joe Worrall and Scott McKenna at the heart of their defence managed to stay up this season ffsyou can shiiit talk other countries but there's a reason Man City skelp the wee teams in your league on such a regular basis.
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The Prem is 4 leagues within one though - you have utter garbage in the bottom 6, then the next 6 are arguably all better than Celtic and Rnagers, then you have the Champions league challenging clubs - Spurs level, then you have the clubs that can actually win the league, which usually consists of Man City plus 1 or 2 challengers.
These days it’s either an English side or Real Madrid winning the CL - it’s a whole new ball game. It’s a mammoth step up from Inverness in a cup final
comment by Chris[topher] (U20930)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Chris[topher] (U20930)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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it's not just about what he's achieved it's about how he's done it, and having confidence in those methods
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It’s like Pep though, everyone loves his football and how his teams play others off the park - but Barca, Bayern and City can afford to do that - can Pep do it with Crystal Palace?
Ange has had Japans biggest team and Scotlands - sure you can play teams off the park in that scenario.
Can he replicate that now at a side that finished 8th and is seen as a managers graveyard - 6/7th biggest budget in the league and plays at least a dozen elite level matches a year - i faaaacking hope so, but mark my words, it will be an unbelievable step up for him and he has his work cut out big time - because that’s where he is going to be, in the big time with the worlds smallest chairman
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we won't be winning the league next season but we'll be getting results and playing well - look at Brighton. it's not like for everybody but city you have to choose between good football and results
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There is zero guarantee of that. Conte was getting results, if he had stayed until the end of the season there is no doubt in my mind we would be in the Europa at worst next season. No one knows how well Ange will do as he has never managed anywhere near this level before.
I cannot stress what a huge step up this is for him - he has never come up against huge managers like Klopp/Pep/Poch - Beale is who he has come up against, faaack me. Rangers is a big club, but they are dwarfed by the likes of Liverpool and Man United, throw in serious money like City, Chelsea and Newcastle and then add Arsenal. The. You have former European cup winners like Villa with a very capable manager, Forest with a deafening home crowd. European finalists West Ham who have a huge chip on their shoulders about Spurs. Yesterday he got a nice jolly against Inverness in a cup final - those days are long gone
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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Rangers and Celtic have 6 elite a games a year, then Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen can be half decent, the rest is pub league. Getting top 3 with Spurs now means out doing 4 of Man City, Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle - Rangers and Celtic would be relegation battlers in the Prem, it’s just a different level down here
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The bottom half of the English prem is a dire standard, aside from Chelsea's dysfunctional collection of stars. I've no doubt that Rangers and Celtic would finish mid table with their current squads, then quickly build on that (well, Celtic would, we're a bit Spursy behind the scenes at the moment). A team with Joe Worrall and Scott McKenna at the heart of their defence managed to stay up this season ffsyou can shiiit talk other countries but there's a reason Man City skelp the wee teams in your league on such a regular basis.
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The Prem is 4 leagues within one though - you have utter garbage in the bottom 6, then the next 6 are arguably all better than Celtic and Rnagers, then you have the Champions league challenging clubs - Spurs level, then you have the clubs that can actually win the league, which usually consists of Man City plus 1 or 2 challengers.
These days it’s either an English side or Real Madrid winning the CL - it’s a whole new ball game. It’s a mammoth step up from Inverness in a cup final
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You’re talking like he would be replacing Klopp to try and help them close the gap to City again. If he does go he is going to a mid-table team who aren’t expected to win anything. Playing the top 3 would be a big challenge but Spurs should still comfortably be finishing ahead of the likes of West Ham next season.
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 9 minutes ago
The Prem is 4 leagues within one though - you have utter garbage in the bottom 6, then the next 6 are arguably all better than Celtic and Rnagers, then you have the Champions league challenging clubs - Spurs level, then you have the clubs that can actually win the league, which usually consists of Man City plus 1 or 2 challengers.
These days it’s either an English side or Real Madrid winning the CL - it’s a whole new ball game. It’s a mammoth step up from Inverness in a cup final
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I'd fancy our chances against the likes of Wolves and Fulham tbh. Teams full of overpaid journeymen.
The biggest problem for Ange at Spurs would be Kane. He doesn't have the pace and intensity to fit into Ange's system so selling him and investing the money in more suitable players is the sensible move, but would it immediately turn the fans against him? Maybe the reason Spurs have opted for him is because he's told Levy he's OK with him selling Kane.
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posted 57 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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Rangers and Celtic have 6 elite a games a year, then Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen can be half decent, the rest is pub league. Getting top 3 with Spurs now means out doing 4 of Man City, Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle - Rangers and Celtic would be relegation battlers in the Prem, it’s just a different level down here
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Managers don’t bring their old team with them to a new club. In saying that, I would take most of ours over yours, save for the guy up front.
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posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 18 minutes ago
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posted 22 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
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The risk is that we have been CL regulars, finalists in 2019 - who was the last Scottish club to make the final? Was colour TV around?
We are a club that is capable of being in there and mixing it with the elite sides - we are also capable of being pizz like last season.
Nuno was punted after having us in ninth place after a few months - I can easily see Ange replicating that, we need to start moving forwards again
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CL regulars? You’ve only made top 4 once in the last 4 seasons, and that was a scraped 4th on the last day. You can also maybe wum us about your great Euro pedigree when you’ve actually won ol’ big ears, eh?
For what it’s worth, I have doubts that Ange’s all out attacking methods will be successful at Spurs. Pep’s deploying Stones as a nominal RB who’s basically playing central mid. Ange has been doing that since day one up here, but with BOTH FBs playing the inverted role with licence to come inside … while also only playing 2 CBs, who can be left pretty exposed on the counter, as he doesn’t even favour a genuine defensive midfielder, just gets a naturally attacking one (our captain) to sit deeper. Now all that has been great domestically, most of the time … but decent sides exploit that, as we’ve found out in Europe. Maybe Ange will adapt though?
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posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 18 minutes ago
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posted 22 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
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The risk is that we have been CL regulars, finalists in 2019 - who was the last Scottish club to make the final? Was colour TV around?
We are a club that is capable of being in there and mixing it with the elite sides - we are also capable of being pizz like last season.
Nuno was punted after having us in ninth place after a few months - I can easily see Ange replicating that, we need to start moving forwards again
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CL regulars? You’ve only made top 4 once in the last 4 seasons, and that was a scraped 4th on the last day. You can also maybe wum us about your great Euro pedigree when you’ve actually won ol’ big ears, eh?
For what it’s worth, I have doubts that Ange’s all out attacking methods will be successful at Spurs. Pep’s deploying Stones as a nominal RB who’s basically playing central mid. Ange has been doing that since day one up here, but with BOTH FBs playing the inverted role with licence to come inside … while also only playing 2 CBs, who can be left pretty exposed on the counter, as he doesn’t even favour a genuine defensive midfielder, just gets a naturally attacking one (our captain) to sit deeper. Now all that has been great domestically, most of the time … but decent sides exploit that, as we’ve found out in Europe. Maybe Ange will adapt though?
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Spurs have been in transition in the last 4 years, so I am not sure why you chose 4 years maybe to suit the narrative as if you were to say 5 years you would have to mention Spurs being not only in CL, but in the final of CL.
Celtic may have been in many CLs, but how may CL finals have they played in. None
Spurs did win the European trophies first having done the double too.
For me, Ange maybe the best manager yet to be discovered but coming from a very weak league like the scottish league, I have my concerns as that is a very weak league
Ange will find it soonenough how tough it is in the English PL compared with playing against Rangers.
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posted 15 minutes ago
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posted 18 minutes ago
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comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
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The risk is that we have been CL regulars, finalists in 2019 - who was the last Scottish club to make the final? Was colour TV around?
We are a club that is capable of being in there and mixing it with the elite sides - we are also capable of being pizz like last season.
Nuno was punted after having us in ninth place after a few months - I can easily see Ange replicating that, we need to start moving forwards again
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CL regulars? You’ve only made top 4 once in the last 4 seasons, and that was a scraped 4th on the last day. You can also maybe wum us about your great Euro pedigree when you’ve actually won ol’ big ears, eh?
For what it’s worth, I have doubts that Ange’s all out attacking methods will be successful at Spurs. Pep’s deploying Stones as a nominal RB who’s basically playing central mid. Ange has been doing that since day one up here, but with BOTH FBs playing the inverted role with licence to come inside … while also only playing 2 CBs, who can be left pretty exposed on the counter, as he doesn’t even favour a genuine defensive midfielder, just gets a naturally attacking one (our captain) to sit deeper. Now all that has been great domestically, most of the time … but decent sides exploit that, as we’ve found out in Europe. Maybe Ange will adapt though?
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It’s a terrible fit with Spurs squad. Ange will need a whole new 11 to play his style and not get annihilated against attacking teams.
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posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 15 minutes ago
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posted 18 minutes ago
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posted 22 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
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The risk is that we have been CL regulars, finalists in 2019 - who was the last Scottish club to make the final? Was colour TV around?
We are a club that is capable of being in there and mixing it with the elite sides - we are also capable of being pizz like last season.
Nuno was punted after having us in ninth place after a few months - I can easily see Ange replicating that, we need to start moving forwards again
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CL regulars? You’ve only made top 4 once in the last 4 seasons, and that was a scraped 4th on the last day. You can also maybe wum us about your great Euro pedigree when you’ve actually won ol’ big ears, eh?
For what it’s worth, I have doubts that Ange’s all out attacking methods will be successful at Spurs. Pep’s deploying Stones as a nominal RB who’s basically playing central mid. Ange has been doing that since day one up here, but with BOTH FBs playing the inverted role with licence to come inside … while also only playing 2 CBs, who can be left pretty exposed on the counter, as he doesn’t even favour a genuine defensive midfielder, just gets a naturally attacking one (our captain) to sit deeper. Now all that has been great domestically, most of the time … but decent sides exploit that, as we’ve found out in Europe. Maybe Ange will adapt though?
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Spurs have been in transition in the last 4 years, so I am not sure why you chose 4 years maybe to suit the narrative as if you were to say 5 years you would have to mention Spurs being not only in CL, but in the final of CL.
Celtic may have been in many CLs, but how may CL finals have they played in. None
Spurs did win the European trophies first having done the double too.
For me, Ange maybe the best manager yet to be discovered but coming from a very weak league like the scottish league, I have my concerns as that is a very weak league
Ange will find it soonenough how tough it is in the English PL compared with playing against Rangers.
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posted on 4/6/23
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hopefully he can deal with the step up to an elite league after warming up at lower league level for a few years. He seems to have good ideas but it's still quite a leap. Let's face it, 11 of us being managed by Sandy would have a reasonable chance of winning a few trophies north of the border.
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You think the league is the hard part about managing Spurs?
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hopefully he can deal with the step up to an elite league after warming up at lower league level for a few years. He seems to have good ideas but it's still quite a leap. Let's face it, 11 of us being managed by Sandy would have a reasonable chance of winning a few trophies north of the border.
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You think the league is the hard part about managing Spurs?
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God no. Dealing with Levy is the hard part.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hopefully he can deal with the step up to an elite league after warming up at lower league level for a few years. He seems to have good ideas but it's still quite a leap. Let's face it, 11 of us being managed by Sandy would have a reasonable chance of winning a few trophies north of the border.
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You think the league is the hard part about managing Spurs?
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God no. Dealing with Levy is the hard part.
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I think there are a number of things beyond the league, which as everyone knows is the worlds biggest / richest at present, and therefore going to be hard.
1. The chairman
2. The lazy squad
3. The apparent board of accountants
4. Grass roots development
5. Scouting
6. Fans unrealistic expectations
7. A lack of success, compounded by #5, brings needless pressure
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hopefully he can deal with the step up to an elite league after warming up at lower league level for a few years. He seems to have good ideas but it's still quite a leap. Let's face it, 11 of us being managed by Sandy would have a reasonable chance of winning a few trophies north of the border.
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You think the league is the hard part about managing Spurs?
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God no. Dealing with Levy is the hard part.
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I think there are a number of things beyond the league, which as everyone knows is the worlds biggest / richest at present, and therefore going to be hard.
1. The chairman
2. The lazy squad
3. The apparent board of accountants
4. Grass roots development
5. Scouting
6. Fans unrealistic expectations
7. A lack of success, compounded by #5, brings needless pressure
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1. Correct
2. Incorrect
3. Correct
4. 50/50
5. Correct
6. Correct
7. Correct
posted on 4/6/23
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
posted on 4/6/23
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hopefully he can deal with the step up to an elite league after warming up at lower league level for a few years. He seems to have good ideas but it's still quite a leap. Let's face it, 11 of us being managed by Sandy would have a reasonable chance of winning a few trophies north of the border.
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You think the league is the hard part about managing Spurs?
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God no. Dealing with Levy is the hard part.
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I think there are a number of things beyond the league, which as everyone knows is the worlds biggest / richest at present, and therefore going to be hard.
1. The chairman
2. The lazy squad
3. The apparent board of accountants
4. Grass roots development
5. Scouting
6. Fans unrealistic expectations
7. A lack of success, compounded by #5, brings needless pressure
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1. Correct
2. Incorrect
3. Correct
4. 50/50
5. Correct
6. Correct
7. Correct
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I disagree with 6, are spurs fans unrealistic compared to others - is it unrealistic to expect a side with a generational striker, the best Asian player to ever step foot on these shores, the French captain in goal and some expensive signings in between to compete for second rate trophies like the league cup and the Euro farmers cup or the Sevilla cup?
5 I agree with, but we have been very good at this previously in Levy’s era - Modric, Berbatov, Carrick, Defoe, Walker, Lennon, Bale etc - we used to buy these young under the radar players and turn them into absolute beasts - we simply one day decided to stop doing that
posted on 4/6/23
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
posted on 4/6/23
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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it's not just about what he's achieved it's about how he's done it, and having confidence in those methods
posted on 4/6/23
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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Rangers and Celtic have 6 elite a games a year, then Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen can be half decent, the rest is pub league. Getting top 3 with Spurs now means out doing 4 of Man City, Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle - Rangers and Celtic would be relegation battlers in the Prem, it’s just a different level down here
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Chris[topher] (U20930)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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it's not just about what he's achieved it's about how he's done it, and having confidence in those methods
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It’s like Pep though, everyone loves his football and how his teams play others off the park - but Barca, Bayern and City can afford to do that - can Pep do it with Crystal Palace?
Ange has had Japans biggest team and Scotlands - sure you can play teams off the park in that scenario.
Can he replicate that now at a side that finished 8th and is seen as a managers graveyard - 6/7th biggest budget in the league and plays at least a dozen elite level matches a year - i faaaacking hope so, but mark my words, it will be an unbelievable step up for him and he has his work cut out big time - because that’s where he is going to be, in the big time with the worlds smallest chairman
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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Rangers and Celtic have 6 elite a games a year, then Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen can be half decent, the rest is pub league. Getting top 3 with Spurs now means out doing 4 of Man City, Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle - Rangers and Celtic would be relegation battlers in the Prem, it’s just a different level down here
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The bottom half of the English prem is a dire standard, aside from Chelsea's dysfunctional collection of stars. I've no doubt that Rangers and Celtic would finish mid table with their current squads, then quickly build on that (well, Celtic would, we're a bit Spursy behind the scenes at the moment). A team with Joe Worrall and Scott McKenna at the heart of their defence managed to stay up this season ffs you can shiiit talk other countries but there's a reason Man City skelp the wee teams in your league on such a regular basis.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Chris[topher] (U20930)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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it's not just about what he's achieved it's about how he's done it, and having confidence in those methods
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It’s like Pep though, everyone loves his football and how his teams play others off the park - but Barca, Bayern and City can afford to do that - can Pep do it with Crystal Palace?
Ange has had Japans biggest team and Scotlands - sure you can play teams off the park in that scenario.
Can he replicate that now at a side that finished 8th and is seen as a managers graveyard - 6/7th biggest budget in the league and plays at least a dozen elite level matches a year - i faaaacking hope so, but mark my words, it will be an unbelievable step up for him and he has his work cut out big time - because that’s where he is going to be, in the big time with the worlds smallest chairman
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we won't be winning the league next season but we'll be getting results and playing well - look at Brighton. it's not like for everybody but city you have to choose between good football and results
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
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The risk is that we have been CL regulars, finalists in 2019 - who was the last Scottish club to make the final? Was colour TV around?
We are a club that is capable of being in there and mixing it with the elite sides - we are also capable of being pizz like last season.
Nuno was punted after having us in ninth place after a few months - I can easily see Ange replicating that, we need to start moving forwards again
posted on 4/6/23
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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Rangers and Celtic have 6 elite a games a year, then Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen can be half decent, the rest is pub league. Getting top 3 with Spurs now means out doing 4 of Man City, Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle - Rangers and Celtic would be relegation battlers in the Prem, it’s just a different level down here
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The bottom half of the English prem is a dire standard, aside from Chelsea's dysfunctional collection of stars. I've no doubt that Rangers and Celtic would finish mid table with their current squads, then quickly build on that (well, Celtic would, we're a bit Spursy behind the scenes at the moment). A team with Joe Worrall and Scott McKenna at the heart of their defence managed to stay up this season ffsyou can shiiit talk other countries but there's a reason Man City skelp the wee teams in your league on such a regular basis.
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The Prem is 4 leagues within one though - you have utter garbage in the bottom 6, then the next 6 are arguably all better than Celtic and Rnagers, then you have the Champions league challenging clubs - Spurs level, then you have the clubs that can actually win the league, which usually consists of Man City plus 1 or 2 challengers.
These days it’s either an English side or Real Madrid winning the CL - it’s a whole new ball game. It’s a mammoth step up from Inverness in a cup final
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Chris[topher] (U20930)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Chris[topher] (U20930)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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it's not just about what he's achieved it's about how he's done it, and having confidence in those methods
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It’s like Pep though, everyone loves his football and how his teams play others off the park - but Barca, Bayern and City can afford to do that - can Pep do it with Crystal Palace?
Ange has had Japans biggest team and Scotlands - sure you can play teams off the park in that scenario.
Can he replicate that now at a side that finished 8th and is seen as a managers graveyard - 6/7th biggest budget in the league and plays at least a dozen elite level matches a year - i faaaacking hope so, but mark my words, it will be an unbelievable step up for him and he has his work cut out big time - because that’s where he is going to be, in the big time with the worlds smallest chairman
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we won't be winning the league next season but we'll be getting results and playing well - look at Brighton. it's not like for everybody but city you have to choose between good football and results
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There is zero guarantee of that. Conte was getting results, if he had stayed until the end of the season there is no doubt in my mind we would be in the Europa at worst next season. No one knows how well Ange will do as he has never managed anywhere near this level before.
I cannot stress what a huge step up this is for him - he has never come up against huge managers like Klopp/Pep/Poch - Beale is who he has come up against, faaack me. Rangers is a big club, but they are dwarfed by the likes of Liverpool and Man United, throw in serious money like City, Chelsea and Newcastle and then add Arsenal. The. You have former European cup winners like Villa with a very capable manager, Forest with a deafening home crowd. European finalists West Ham who have a huge chip on their shoulders about Spurs. Yesterday he got a nice jolly against Inverness in a cup final - those days are long gone
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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Rangers and Celtic have 6 elite a games a year, then Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen can be half decent, the rest is pub league. Getting top 3 with Spurs now means out doing 4 of Man City, Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle - Rangers and Celtic would be relegation battlers in the Prem, it’s just a different level down here
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The bottom half of the English prem is a dire standard, aside from Chelsea's dysfunctional collection of stars. I've no doubt that Rangers and Celtic would finish mid table with their current squads, then quickly build on that (well, Celtic would, we're a bit Spursy behind the scenes at the moment). A team with Joe Worrall and Scott McKenna at the heart of their defence managed to stay up this season ffsyou can shiiit talk other countries but there's a reason Man City skelp the wee teams in your league on such a regular basis.
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The Prem is 4 leagues within one though - you have utter garbage in the bottom 6, then the next 6 are arguably all better than Celtic and Rnagers, then you have the Champions league challenging clubs - Spurs level, then you have the clubs that can actually win the league, which usually consists of Man City plus 1 or 2 challengers.
These days it’s either an English side or Real Madrid winning the CL - it’s a whole new ball game. It’s a mammoth step up from Inverness in a cup final
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You’re talking like he would be replacing Klopp to try and help them close the gap to City again. If he does go he is going to a mid-table team who aren’t expected to win anything. Playing the top 3 would be a big challenge but Spurs should still comfortably be finishing ahead of the likes of West Ham next season.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
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The Prem is 4 leagues within one though - you have utter garbage in the bottom 6, then the next 6 are arguably all better than Celtic and Rnagers, then you have the Champions league challenging clubs - Spurs level, then you have the clubs that can actually win the league, which usually consists of Man City plus 1 or 2 challengers.
These days it’s either an English side or Real Madrid winning the CL - it’s a whole new ball game. It’s a mammoth step up from Inverness in a cup final
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I'd fancy our chances against the likes of Wolves and Fulham tbh. Teams full of overpaid journeymen.
The biggest problem for Ange at Spurs would be Kane. He doesn't have the pace and intensity to fit into Ange's system so selling him and investing the money in more suitable players is the sensible move, but would it immediately turn the fans against him? Maybe the reason Spurs have opted for him is because he's told Levy he's OK with him selling Kane.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
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comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rangers finished the league on 92 points - more than City won the English prem with - and still only came second. To say beating that total was "easy" for Celtic is disingenuous. There is very, very little margin of error for an Old Firm manager. Finishing top 4 in England at a club with the financial resources of Spurs is a much easier task.
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Rangers and Celtic have 6 elite a games a year, then Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen can be half decent, the rest is pub league. Getting top 3 with Spurs now means out doing 4 of Man City, Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle - Rangers and Celtic would be relegation battlers in the Prem, it’s just a different level down here
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Managers don’t bring their old team with them to a new club. In saying that, I would take most of ours over yours, save for the guy up front.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
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comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
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The risk is that we have been CL regulars, finalists in 2019 - who was the last Scottish club to make the final? Was colour TV around?
We are a club that is capable of being in there and mixing it with the elite sides - we are also capable of being pizz like last season.
Nuno was punted after having us in ninth place after a few months - I can easily see Ange replicating that, we need to start moving forwards again
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CL regulars? You’ve only made top 4 once in the last 4 seasons, and that was a scraped 4th on the last day. You can also maybe wum us about your great Euro pedigree when you’ve actually won ol’ big ears, eh?
For what it’s worth, I have doubts that Ange’s all out attacking methods will be successful at Spurs. Pep’s deploying Stones as a nominal RB who’s basically playing central mid. Ange has been doing that since day one up here, but with BOTH FBs playing the inverted role with licence to come inside … while also only playing 2 CBs, who can be left pretty exposed on the counter, as he doesn’t even favour a genuine defensive midfielder, just gets a naturally attacking one (our captain) to sit deeper. Now all that has been great domestically, most of the time … but decent sides exploit that, as we’ve found out in Europe. Maybe Ange will adapt though?
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
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The risk is that we have been CL regulars, finalists in 2019 - who was the last Scottish club to make the final? Was colour TV around?
We are a club that is capable of being in there and mixing it with the elite sides - we are also capable of being pizz like last season.
Nuno was punted after having us in ninth place after a few months - I can easily see Ange replicating that, we need to start moving forwards again
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CL regulars? You’ve only made top 4 once in the last 4 seasons, and that was a scraped 4th on the last day. You can also maybe wum us about your great Euro pedigree when you’ve actually won ol’ big ears, eh?
For what it’s worth, I have doubts that Ange’s all out attacking methods will be successful at Spurs. Pep’s deploying Stones as a nominal RB who’s basically playing central mid. Ange has been doing that since day one up here, but with BOTH FBs playing the inverted role with licence to come inside … while also only playing 2 CBs, who can be left pretty exposed on the counter, as he doesn’t even favour a genuine defensive midfielder, just gets a naturally attacking one (our captain) to sit deeper. Now all that has been great domestically, most of the time … but decent sides exploit that, as we’ve found out in Europe. Maybe Ange will adapt though?
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Spurs have been in transition in the last 4 years, so I am not sure why you chose 4 years maybe to suit the narrative as if you were to say 5 years you would have to mention Spurs being not only in CL, but in the final of CL.
Celtic may have been in many CLs, but how may CL finals have they played in. None
Spurs did win the European trophies first having done the double too.
For me, Ange maybe the best manager yet to be discovered but coming from a very weak league like the scottish league, I have my concerns as that is a very weak league
Ange will find it soonenough how tough it is in the English PL compared with playing against Rangers.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
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The risk is that we have been CL regulars, finalists in 2019 - who was the last Scottish club to make the final? Was colour TV around?
We are a club that is capable of being in there and mixing it with the elite sides - we are also capable of being pizz like last season.
Nuno was punted after having us in ninth place after a few months - I can easily see Ange replicating that, we need to start moving forwards again
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CL regulars? You’ve only made top 4 once in the last 4 seasons, and that was a scraped 4th on the last day. You can also maybe wum us about your great Euro pedigree when you’ve actually won ol’ big ears, eh?
For what it’s worth, I have doubts that Ange’s all out attacking methods will be successful at Spurs. Pep’s deploying Stones as a nominal RB who’s basically playing central mid. Ange has been doing that since day one up here, but with BOTH FBs playing the inverted role with licence to come inside … while also only playing 2 CBs, who can be left pretty exposed on the counter, as he doesn’t even favour a genuine defensive midfielder, just gets a naturally attacking one (our captain) to sit deeper. Now all that has been great domestically, most of the time … but decent sides exploit that, as we’ve found out in Europe. Maybe Ange will adapt though?
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It’s a terrible fit with Spurs squad. Ange will need a whole new 11 to play his style and not get annihilated against attacking teams.
posted on 4/6/23
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m happy enough if he was appointed. Any fans I know of Celtic tell me we are lucky to be getting him!
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It’s a huge risk though, they won’t like to hear it but winning with Celtic just isn’t an achievement - it’s like having a cheat code with football manager.
Other than that he has had some success with Japans biggest and richest club side and did okay in Australia - he was also relegated one season in Australia.
The good news is that we are the club where the speculation and guessing games will stop - we and he will finally find out if he is cut out for the elite game or not. It’s rubber underpants time but I really hope it works out for us and him
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Genuinely struggling to understand the “huge risk”. You’ve just finished 8th in a 6 horse race, and been abject in the Cups … again. So what’s the risk exactly? Ange would be a risk for teams expecting to win things. No offence, but worst case at Spurs is you’ll still be pash, but at least playing attractive, attacking football in the process.
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The risk is that we have been CL regulars, finalists in 2019 - who was the last Scottish club to make the final? Was colour TV around?
We are a club that is capable of being in there and mixing it with the elite sides - we are also capable of being pizz like last season.
Nuno was punted after having us in ninth place after a few months - I can easily see Ange replicating that, we need to start moving forwards again
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CL regulars? You’ve only made top 4 once in the last 4 seasons, and that was a scraped 4th on the last day. You can also maybe wum us about your great Euro pedigree when you’ve actually won ol’ big ears, eh?
For what it’s worth, I have doubts that Ange’s all out attacking methods will be successful at Spurs. Pep’s deploying Stones as a nominal RB who’s basically playing central mid. Ange has been doing that since day one up here, but with BOTH FBs playing the inverted role with licence to come inside … while also only playing 2 CBs, who can be left pretty exposed on the counter, as he doesn’t even favour a genuine defensive midfielder, just gets a naturally attacking one (our captain) to sit deeper. Now all that has been great domestically, most of the time … but decent sides exploit that, as we’ve found out in Europe. Maybe Ange will adapt though?
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Spurs have been in transition in the last 4 years, so I am not sure why you chose 4 years maybe to suit the narrative as if you were to say 5 years you would have to mention Spurs being not only in CL, but in the final of CL.
Celtic may have been in many CLs, but how may CL finals have they played in. None
Spurs did win the European trophies first having done the double too.
For me, Ange maybe the best manager yet to be discovered but coming from a very weak league like the scottish league, I have my concerns as that is a very weak league
Ange will find it soonenough how tough it is in the English PL compared with playing against Rangers.
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You might want to do some research
posted on 4/6/23
Training should be hoot , Oi Sanchez you facking Drongo , get ya head out of the dunny !
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