The problem with selling players is that most European clubs are broke.
Who will pay £60m for Havertz for example. He's on £160k a week which is top end for most big clubs in Europe. May be Munich is a natural destination but he is the sort of player that is not so good that clubs will be lining up to buy him especially at that value and wages.
I think your values are fair, but you will struggle in this market and this will be made worse by the fact that many are on big wages and everyone knows you need to sell a lot of players. The quality ones will be picked off but the majority will be hard to shift IMO.
Getting rid of even half that list would be a superb effort by any club
Also, and its imo only, some of them won't get the selling price listed, Aubameyang for instance would probs just be let go? and Havertz and Mount 60m? under differing circumstances perhaps but Havertz didn't have a great season (could be wrong, only saw him 5-6 times) and Mount is in the last year of his contract next season?
That said I could be completely wrong but some will also be on eye watering financial deals and enjoy living in London so could be reluctant to leave, still if you can even move on half them that would still be a good close season
I agree getting rid of the whole list will be an achievement.
But i do sense in this window, that there are a lot clubs who do require new players.
These prices are knock down rates, which will be attractive.
I think in the cases of Mount & Havertz the club will hold out for top money, as i assume the club would not be eager to get rid of either.
Yeah they may not get 60m each but it wont far off that!
I'd send youngsters Mount and Loftus Cheek out on loan to the Championship or League 1 to get them some experience instead of selling them. Then in a few years they could be integrated into the first team.
People won't even pay those prices on FIFA
Bit Harsh, do i sense a case of the bitters ?
If this site is even close to being correct then shifting the players on high wages is going to be very challenging. Certainly for anything close to decent fees.
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/chelsea-fc/payroll/
I read interview with Koulibaly he misses Naples n wants return to Napoli
Who the furrrk is Khoudibaly?
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posted 35 seconds ago
Who the furrrk is Khoudibaly?
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He is Militao’s bruther
The wages are the issue, but the prices these players will go for will take this into account.
Decent fees?
RL Cheek going for under 20m is a prime example.
The only players who will command anything near their true value is Mount & Havertz, both of which i believe the club are not in a hurry to sell.
I think at this point, the club are going to take the hit on the fees, getting them off the books is the point.
Clearing the FFP 3 season loss 120m , and after that building up cash to buy.
Even if you knock 100m off the figure , the club will be able to do what they need to do.
I think the biggest issue for the club is getting the players they want, due to the loss of C/L football & the new wage structure.
Mendy - £10-15m
Azpilicueta - £3-5m
Koulibaly - Loan
Chalobah - £25m
Cucurella - Stays
Ruben - £15m
Kovacic - £30-35m
CHO - £10-20m
Mount - £45-60m
Pulisic - £15m
Ziyech - £10m
Havertz £40-60m
Lukaku - Loaned
Aubameyang - £5m or released
TLLl.
I just looked up sportrac .com
Agreed,
Koulibaly > loan > 30m still out on contract.
Cucurella, ? Loan or stays > 45m still out on contract.
Lukaku, > loan> 50m still out on contract.
Pulisic & Ziyech i reckon will get a better fee 20/25m
Azpilicueta & Aubameyang yeah 3/5m or released.
RL Cheek seems to be in the ball park 15/20m
Chalobah & CHO i would like to think that they can command reasonable fees due to homegrown, age, no massive contract outstanding.25/30m
Mount & Havertz, cant see the club releasing either for less than 50m each.
Potential sales of 220m > 250m
Plus with loan fees 20/30m all loanees.
Plus the club will sell fringe players 20m +.
The club has the potential to bring in 250m.
This is an issue with regard to funding 3/4 new players as the club will have to clear the 120m FFP loss.
comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
I agree getting rid of the whole list will be an achievement.
But i do sense in this window, that there are a lot clubs who do require new players.
These prices are knock down rates, which will be attractive.
I think in the cases of Mount & Havertz the club will hold out for top money, as i assume the club would not be eager to get rid of either.
Yeah they may not get 60m each but it wont far off that!
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They are knock down rates on what you paid for them but given the season they have just had, some of their contract positions and age, who will want to take the likes of Ziyech (30) for that sum of money or Pullisic with his injury record. Not many in Europe willing to splash £60m on Havertz and £8m a year wages, and few teams in Europe can afford Lukaku's wages, let alone any transfer fee on top for a 30 year old.
Loads of clubs will look to take these players on loan from you, maybe have you pay some of their wages if they are really high wages.
Yes I agree about the loans being the only way out for two or three of the top earners.
I don’t agree about Havertz, also in the last window PSG made a decent offer for Ziyech.
Mendy 30m and Kepa 10M - I'd have the other way round!
yeah, but one of them will be going!
COY Blues, !
comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 18 hours, 50 minutes ago
Yes I agree about the loans being the only way out for two or three of the top earners.
I don’t agree about Havertz, also in the last window PSG made a decent offer for Ziyech.
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I disagree.
I think you're going to really struggle to off load half of those players on anything but a loan signing.
The other difficulty will be timing. Loans are often a late window thing. You wont want to loan someone out this week if you have a chance of selling them over the next 2 months.
If i am sat here (average fan) thinking that Chelsea will be desperate to off load players and that there will be a deal to be had, then any shrewd owner/DOF will be thinking the same thing, and knowing that the longer it goes on the more desperate CFC will be to get rid.
I may be wrong but i cant help but think that this will be a very difficult window for Poch. Yes he'll want players in and will have the resources to do so but CFC need to off load player to reduce the squad, to reduce the wages and to bring some player trading revenue in. If you buy first then that's an even greater risk and makes you even more desperate to off load players, weakening your negotiation position further.
I agree it will be a difficult window for Poch.
For the club, its really about the size of the hit they are prepared to take to get these players off the wage bill.
This window there is need for players, these will be cheap enough, it is only really Lukaku, Cucherella & Koulidbaly who have huge wage contracts outstanding, they are the first ones who may get loaned.
The others are not poor players, they have just run their time at Cfc.
i do not believe the club are overly eagar to sell Mount or Havertz. There is interest in both if they go they will imo fetch decent money 50m +
comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 5 minutes ago
I agree it will be a difficult window for Poch.
For the club, its really about the size of the hit they are prepared to take to get these players off the wage bill.
This window there is need for players, these will be cheap enough, it is only really Lukaku, Cucherella & Koulidbaly who have huge wage contracts outstanding, they are the first ones who may get loaned.
The others are not poor players, they have just run their time at Cfc.
i do not believe the club are overly eagar to sell Mount or Havertz. There is interest in both if they go they will imo fetch decent money 50m +
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A bit like life for all of us right now, i think a lot of clubs, especially in Europe, are being very careful and considered withtheir spending. Budgets are tight and a lot of Europe look at the bloated premiership and see opportunity to pick up quality cast-offs on loan or cheaply
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posted on 7/6/23
The problem with selling players is that most European clubs are broke.
Who will pay £60m for Havertz for example. He's on £160k a week which is top end for most big clubs in Europe. May be Munich is a natural destination but he is the sort of player that is not so good that clubs will be lining up to buy him especially at that value and wages.
I think your values are fair, but you will struggle in this market and this will be made worse by the fact that many are on big wages and everyone knows you need to sell a lot of players. The quality ones will be picked off but the majority will be hard to shift IMO.
posted on 7/6/23
Getting rid of even half that list would be a superb effort by any club
Also, and its imo only, some of them won't get the selling price listed, Aubameyang for instance would probs just be let go? and Havertz and Mount 60m? under differing circumstances perhaps but Havertz didn't have a great season (could be wrong, only saw him 5-6 times) and Mount is in the last year of his contract next season?
That said I could be completely wrong but some will also be on eye watering financial deals and enjoy living in London so could be reluctant to leave, still if you can even move on half them that would still be a good close season
posted on 7/6/23
I agree getting rid of the whole list will be an achievement.
But i do sense in this window, that there are a lot clubs who do require new players.
These prices are knock down rates, which will be attractive.
I think in the cases of Mount & Havertz the club will hold out for top money, as i assume the club would not be eager to get rid of either.
Yeah they may not get 60m each but it wont far off that!
posted on 7/6/23
I'd send youngsters Mount and Loftus Cheek out on loan to the Championship or League 1 to get them some experience instead of selling them. Then in a few years they could be integrated into the first team.
posted on 7/6/23
Ok, Wow!
posted on 7/6/23
People won't even pay those prices on FIFA
posted on 7/6/23
Bit Harsh, do i sense a case of the bitters ?
posted on 7/6/23
If this site is even close to being correct then shifting the players on high wages is going to be very challenging. Certainly for anything close to decent fees.
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/chelsea-fc/payroll/
posted on 7/6/23
I read interview with Koulibaly he misses Naples n wants return to Napoli
posted on 7/6/23
Who the furrrk is Khoudibaly?
posted on 7/6/23
comment by Wahl Icht Roma (U22997)
posted 35 seconds ago
Who the furrrk is Khoudibaly?
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He is Militao’s bruther
posted on 7/6/23
Those valuations
posted on 7/6/23
The wages are the issue, but the prices these players will go for will take this into account.
Decent fees?
RL Cheek going for under 20m is a prime example.
The only players who will command anything near their true value is Mount & Havertz, both of which i believe the club are not in a hurry to sell.
posted on 7/6/23
I think at this point, the club are going to take the hit on the fees, getting them off the books is the point.
Clearing the FFP 3 season loss 120m , and after that building up cash to buy.
Even if you knock 100m off the figure , the club will be able to do what they need to do.
posted on 7/6/23
I think the biggest issue for the club is getting the players they want, due to the loss of C/L football & the new wage structure.
posted on 7/6/23
Naby8
Cheers mate!
posted on 7/6/23
Mendy - £10-15m
Azpilicueta - £3-5m
Koulibaly - Loan
Chalobah - £25m
Cucurella - Stays
Ruben - £15m
Kovacic - £30-35m
CHO - £10-20m
Mount - £45-60m
Pulisic - £15m
Ziyech - £10m
Havertz £40-60m
Lukaku - Loaned
Aubameyang - £5m or released
posted on 7/6/23
TLLl.
I just looked up sportrac .com
Agreed,
Koulibaly > loan > 30m still out on contract.
Cucurella, ? Loan or stays > 45m still out on contract.
Lukaku, > loan> 50m still out on contract.
Pulisic & Ziyech i reckon will get a better fee 20/25m
Azpilicueta & Aubameyang yeah 3/5m or released.
RL Cheek seems to be in the ball park 15/20m
Chalobah & CHO i would like to think that they can command reasonable fees due to homegrown, age, no massive contract outstanding.25/30m
Mount & Havertz, cant see the club releasing either for less than 50m each.
Potential sales of 220m > 250m
Plus with loan fees 20/30m all loanees.
Plus the club will sell fringe players 20m +.
The club has the potential to bring in 250m.
This is an issue with regard to funding 3/4 new players as the club will have to clear the 120m FFP loss.
posted on 7/6/23
comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
I agree getting rid of the whole list will be an achievement.
But i do sense in this window, that there are a lot clubs who do require new players.
These prices are knock down rates, which will be attractive.
I think in the cases of Mount & Havertz the club will hold out for top money, as i assume the club would not be eager to get rid of either.
Yeah they may not get 60m each but it wont far off that!
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They are knock down rates on what you paid for them but given the season they have just had, some of their contract positions and age, who will want to take the likes of Ziyech (30) for that sum of money or Pullisic with his injury record. Not many in Europe willing to splash £60m on Havertz and £8m a year wages, and few teams in Europe can afford Lukaku's wages, let alone any transfer fee on top for a 30 year old.
Loads of clubs will look to take these players on loan from you, maybe have you pay some of their wages if they are really high wages.
posted on 7/6/23
Yes I agree about the loans being the only way out for two or three of the top earners.
I don’t agree about Havertz, also in the last window PSG made a decent offer for Ziyech.
posted on 7/6/23
Mendy 30m and Kepa 10M - I'd have the other way round!
posted on 7/6/23
yeah, but one of them will be going!
COY Blues, !
posted on 8/6/23
comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 18 hours, 50 minutes ago
Yes I agree about the loans being the only way out for two or three of the top earners.
I don’t agree about Havertz, also in the last window PSG made a decent offer for Ziyech.
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I disagree.
I think you're going to really struggle to off load half of those players on anything but a loan signing.
The other difficulty will be timing. Loans are often a late window thing. You wont want to loan someone out this week if you have a chance of selling them over the next 2 months.
If i am sat here (average fan) thinking that Chelsea will be desperate to off load players and that there will be a deal to be had, then any shrewd owner/DOF will be thinking the same thing, and knowing that the longer it goes on the more desperate CFC will be to get rid.
I may be wrong but i cant help but think that this will be a very difficult window for Poch. Yes he'll want players in and will have the resources to do so but CFC need to off load player to reduce the squad, to reduce the wages and to bring some player trading revenue in. If you buy first then that's an even greater risk and makes you even more desperate to off load players, weakening your negotiation position further.
posted on 8/6/23
I agree it will be a difficult window for Poch.
For the club, its really about the size of the hit they are prepared to take to get these players off the wage bill.
This window there is need for players, these will be cheap enough, it is only really Lukaku, Cucherella & Koulidbaly who have huge wage contracts outstanding, they are the first ones who may get loaned.
The others are not poor players, they have just run their time at Cfc.
i do not believe the club are overly eagar to sell Mount or Havertz. There is interest in both if they go they will imo fetch decent money 50m +
posted on 8/6/23
comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 5 minutes ago
I agree it will be a difficult window for Poch.
For the club, its really about the size of the hit they are prepared to take to get these players off the wage bill.
This window there is need for players, these will be cheap enough, it is only really Lukaku, Cucherella & Koulidbaly who have huge wage contracts outstanding, they are the first ones who may get loaned.
The others are not poor players, they have just run their time at Cfc.
i do not believe the club are overly eagar to sell Mount or Havertz. There is interest in both if they go they will imo fetch decent money 50m +
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A bit like life for all of us right now, i think a lot of clubs, especially in Europe, are being very careful and considered withtheir spending. Budgets are tight and a lot of Europe look at the bloated premiership and see opportunity to pick up quality cast-offs on loan or cheaply
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