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posted on 9/6/23

comment by Arsenal's 3G Network (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Leicester actually scored more goals than the rest of the bottom half, it was only their s**** defence that got them relegated, so it wasn't entirely a crap team. Just a team that was ridiculously crap at one side of the game.
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And goalkeeper. They sold their best centre back and only good keeper.

posted on 9/6/23

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Number Post8coglou (U9729)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Number Post8coglou (U9729)
posted 5 seconds ago
Ridiculous price

Honestly, at the risk of sounding like an old fart, this is what's slowly putting me off football

Hes done nothing to warrant that price tag

I remember saying the same thing about Richarlison. Qas rubbish at Everton, and even as a neutral when I watched Everton play with him in the squad, he's frustrated the tiiits off me
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& Spurs Paid it !!!
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Exactly

Ridiculous the way football has gone, celebrating mediocre players and then dressing it up as 'he's worth that to the selling club'
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Maddison, in a very shiiiiit Leicester team managed 10 goals in 30 games from midfield.

He also contributed 9 assists

So that is a contribution to a goal 19 times in 30 appearnces.

He created 60 chances in that time.

In terms of chances per game, he is third behind Bruno F and KDB.

All that in a crap team

The season before it was 12 in 35 games. SO he's a 1 in 3 goal scorer and a 1 in 3 assist maker.

Few can match that level of stats so to call him "mediocre" is not supported by any stats whatsoever.

What i enjoy about him is the spaces he occupies. The holes he finds and when he gets the ball he is often on the half turn. Imagine linking with Kane & Son rather than Iheanacho & Vardy.

Imagine him being in our line up instead of Skipp or PEH.

Many people poo poo'd the proposed signing of Grealish when we were link with him way back when...the same folk now beating Levy with the failure to get that deal done.

Maddison is at the same level. The shining light in a average to crap team and with stats that back up a high valuation.

He will massively improve our team/squad.. He would add goals and assists. That creativity in the middle that we have lacked and craved since Eriksen (2019).

Please explain how this guy is mediocre or overrated
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Not only does this poetical signing massively improve us for all the reasons you mentioned (100% agree) It smacks of a "Pro Harry Kane/ Keep him sweet" signing. A current England International, a proven PL performer... rather than some young player with upside/ resale value or a loan with option on a guy who's talented but seems to have lost his way at a big club.

It would be a statement signing that we want to be an attacking team again.... Id be energized by this kind of player if I were Kane or Son. There's more to paying a premium for Maddison than just an out of control transfer mkt

posted on 9/6/23

comment by Arsenal's 3G Network (U21076)
posted 3 minutes ago
Leicester actually scored more goals than the rest of the bottom half, it was only their s**** defence that got them relegated, so it wasn't entirely a crap team. Just a team that was ridiculously crap at one side of the game.
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Splitting hairs !

posted on 9/6/23

If Kane is being consulted (which it sounds like he is) about how the club moves forwards/ Gets its culture/DNA back... I would bet Maddison would have been his choice.... closest thing we would get to a prime Eriksen. I doubt Ange would have any complaints if he's as attacking as everyone says he is

posted on 9/6/23

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posted on 9/6/23

Leicester are never getting 60 for him

posted on 9/6/23

Hi guys.

Can't believe some of you don't rate Maddison. Devonshire's post makes the case on the stats front, and from a Leicester fan's perspective I can say he was just about the only positive in a very dark season for us.

No-one has mentioned his free kicking taking either which is top drawer.

Not that it's relevant, but he also comes across well on interviews and press talk.

Whilst I obviously don't want to see him leave, I accept it is inevitable and he would be exactly what Spurs need to provide service to Kane and Son, and would probably negate the need for Kane to drop so deep.

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posted on 9/6/23

comment by Number Post8coglou (U9729)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 seconds ago
If Kane is being consulted (which it sounds like he is) about how the club moves forwards/ Gets its culture/DNA back... I would bet Maddison would have been his choice.... closest thing we would get to a prime Eriksen. I doubt Ange would have any complaints if he's as attacking as everyone says he is
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If Ange wants him and it would obviously improve us, then yes bring him in

If Kane is suggesting we sign him without Ange wanting him, then that's a bit shiiit
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Despite the fact we need a new GK and a couple of new CBs, getting Kane to commit is by far the biggest issue we have. Not only is he our best goal scorer and creative player he's a talisman for the team and the club as whole. If he leaves it destroys any credibility Levy has left (not much) I would imagine everything that gets done in the short term (attacking manger & Links to creative players) is being done to show him the direction the club is moving. Signing a keeper and a couple of CBs better than Dier, Sanchez & Hugo can wait... It cant be that hard

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 9/6/23

I don't like the idea that Kane is being consulted on who we should get if that is indeed happening. Is Kane bigger than the club now? Part of the problem with the last few years is that we've tried getting big name managers in to convince Kane to stay.

posted on 9/6/23

comment by Number Post8coglou (U9729)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 seconds ago
If Kane is being consulted (which it sounds like he is) about how the club moves forwards/ Gets its culture/DNA back... I would bet Maddison would have been his choice.... closest thing we would get to a prime Eriksen. I doubt Ange would have any complaints if he's as attacking as everyone says he is
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If Ange wants him and it would obviously improve us, then yes bring him in

If Kane is suggesting we sign him without Ange wanting him, then that's a bit shiiit
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Is Kane the new DoF?

posted on 9/6/23

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Number Post8coglou (U9729)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 seconds ago
If Kane is being consulted (which it sounds like he is) about how the club moves forwards/ Gets its culture/DNA back... I would bet Maddison would have been his choice.... closest thing we would get to a prime Eriksen. I doubt Ange would have any complaints if he's as attacking as everyone says he is
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If Ange wants him and it would obviously improve us, then yes bring him in

If Kane is suggesting we sign him without Ange wanting him, then that's a bit shiiit
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Is Kane the new DoF?
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Coudn't do any worse than the last few

posted on 9/6/23

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 9 minutes ago
I don't like the idea that Kane is being consulted on who we should get if that is indeed happening. Is Kane bigger than the club now? Part of the problem with the last few years is that we've tried getting big name managers in to convince Kane to stay.
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Kane has been bigger than the club for the last 5 years sadly.... Pep was calling us the Harry Kane team years ago, & he was 100% right

posted on 9/6/23

With Maddison, Kane will score more goals and Maddison will see many more of his chances created being put away.

We need that sort of player in the hole, the hole that Kane fills, when he vacates his forward position. This sort of player will be a breath of fresh air to Spurs fans and in an Ange team that looks to attack, its double bubble!!!

I would accept a different player, but i struggle to think of any options that could come in with PL experience, and with stats to back it up.

As for the "same narrative as Richarlison" no one has ever claimed his record to be outstanding (Maddison has a better scoring record from midfield.). We had hoped that he would contribute far more than he has .

In defence of Richy, its been a tough season, where he has been played everywhere and in frequently. I blame Conte for the under performance of many of our players this season, but that said, they could and should have done better !

posted on 9/6/23

£40m take or leave it. Fack Leicester. Every player they have sold recently have all flopped. Chilwell, Maguire and Forfana have all carried over injuries to their new clubs and not worth what their teams paid for.

Only Mahrez and Kante have gone on to do something.

Maddison missed a few games last season on more than one occassion too. Abit injury prone perhaps?

I get Dele Ali vibes from him too. The type to start a fashion label and getting lost in the lights of London.

For him , Newcastle is better fit if he wants to play for England and play at a higher level in the CL.

To the Leicester fan who commented on his interviews, he comes across as cringey gel boy.

posted on 9/6/23

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 minutes ago
With Maddison, Kane will score more goals and Maddison will see many more of his chances created being put away.

We need that sort of player in the hole, the hole that Kane fills, when he vacates his forward position. This sort of player will be a breath of fresh air to Spurs fans and in an Ange team that looks to attack, its double bubble!!!

I would accept a different player, but i struggle to think of any options that could come in with PL experience, and with stats to back it up.

As for the "same narrative as Richarlison" no one has ever claimed his record to be outstanding (Maddison has a better scoring record from midfield.). We had hoped that he would contribute far more than he has .

In defence of Richy, its been a tough season, where he has been played everywhere and in frequently. I blame Conte for the under performance of many of our players this season, but that said, they could and should have done better !
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Maddison has that kind of cocky swagger about his game that we have been missing since Dele, Dembele, Eriksen & Modders before them. He;'s the classic type of Spurs player (Before Jose & conte tried to ruin us). Wants the ball, plays with his head up and tries to do something positive. Spurs need to get back to dominating the ball and playing on the front foot I cant think of a better signing..... I think this would be a lot of money well spent

Levy is under pressure, he needs a statement signing for a ton of different reasons.... This would tick a lot of boxes

posted on 9/6/23

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
£40m take or leave it. Fack Leicester. Every player they have sold recently have all flopped. Chilwell, Maguire and Forfana have all carried over injuries to their new clubs and not worth what their teams paid for.

Only Mahrez and Kante have gone on to do something.

Maddison missed a few games last season on more than one occassion too. Abit injury prone perhaps?

I get Dele Ali vibes from him too. The type to start a fashion label and getting lost in the lights of London.

For him , Newcastle is better fit if he wants to play for England and play at a higher level in the CL.

To the Leicester fan who commented on his interviews, he comes across as cringey gel boy.

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If levy offers 40mln.... He'll end up and at Newcastle and we'll fall further behind. We are more desperate than they are.. There will be plenty of clubs after Maddison

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 9/6/23

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 9 minutes ago
I don't like the idea that Kane is being consulted on who we should get if that is indeed happening. Is Kane bigger than the club now? Part of the problem with the last few years is that we've tried getting big name managers in to convince Kane to stay.
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Kane has been bigger than the club for the last 5 years sadly.... Pep was calling us the Harry Kane team years ago, & he was 100% right
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No player should be bigger than their club. He is our biggest and best player, the fact we have been so reliant on him to the point we might be perceived as "the Harry Kane team" is a true failing of the club. He was our best player back during the peak Poch phase but we were never so reliant on him then and had all sorts of other great players to share the load.

posted on 9/6/23

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
£40m take or leave it. Fack Leicester. Every player they have sold recently have all flopped. Chilwell, Maguire and Forfana have all carried over injuries to their new clubs and not worth what their teams paid for.

Only Mahrez and Kante have gone on to do something.

Maddison missed a few games last season on more than one occassion too. Abit injury prone perhaps?

I get Dele Ali vibes from him too. The type to start a fashion label and getting lost in the lights of London.

For him , Newcastle is better fit if he wants to play for England and play at a higher level in the CL.

To the Leicester fan who commented on his interviews, he comes across as cringey gel boy.

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If levy offers 40mln.... He'll end up and at Newcastle and we'll fall further behind. We are more desperate than they are.. There will be plenty of clubs after Maddison
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There are plenty of other attacking mids out there who would probably cost half the price and be more focused on football.

If the choice is between us and Newcastle, it's a no brainer. Take your Spurs glasses off and the choice should be Newcastle 99 times out of 100 at this moment.

Hatate, Alex Scott, Kang-In are other options. I would rather chuck £50m at Morgan Gibbs-White.

We should be priortising CB's anyway.

posted on 9/6/23

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
£40m take or leave it. Fack Leicester. Every player they have sold recently have all flopped. Chilwell, Maguire and Forfana have all carried over injuries to their new clubs and not worth what their teams paid for.

Only Mahrez and Kante have gone on to do something.

Maddison missed a few games last season on more than one occassion too. Abit injury prone perhaps?

I get Dele Ali vibes from him too. The type to start a fashion label and getting lost in the lights of London.

For him , Newcastle is better fit if he wants to play for England and play at a higher level in the CL.

To the Leicester fan who commented on his interviews, he comes across as cringey gel boy.

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If levy offers 40mln.... He'll end up and at Newcastle and we'll fall further behind. We are more desperate than they are.. There will be plenty of clubs after Maddison
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There are plenty of other attacking mids out there who would probably cost half the price and be more focused on football.

If the choice is between us and Newcastle, it's a no brainer. Take your Spurs glasses off and the choice should be Newcastle 99 times out of 100 at this moment.

Hatate, Alex Scott, Kang-In are other options. I would rather chuck £50m at Morgan Gibbs-White.

We should be priortising CB's anyway.
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Not only is Maddson better than all the players you mentioned, if we signed any of them, it would be the same old Levy, same old message to the fans & same message to Kane..... Take the cheaper/ younger option. Profit before winning

posted on 9/6/23

If we offer the same as Newcastle and he chooses them, can't really blame Levy.

posted on 9/6/23

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
If we offer the same as Newcastle and he chooses them, can't really blame Levy.
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Agreed....But Spurs valuation of players is a joke. If a player chooses someone over us for the same offer.. fair enough but its the same with Raya.... Brentford want 40mln, reports are we've offered 20mln FFS. Put your ego aside Levy and get the right players in early and give our new manager a chance.... How many summer's do we have to fack this up without learning lessons. We spent 3 months pi55ing around over chump change for Spence (a player the manager didnt even want)

posted on 9/6/23

comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
If we offer the same as Newcastle and he chooses them, can't really blame Levy.
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Agreed....But Spurs valuation of players is a joke. If a player chooses someone over us for the same offer.. fair enough but its the same with Raya.... Brentford want 40mln, reports are we've offered 20mln FFS. Put your ego aside Levy and get the right players in early and give our new manager a chance.... How many summer's do we have to fack this up without learning lessons. We spent 3 months pi55ing around over chump change for Spence (a player the manager didnt even want)
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See with the Ange appointment I was hoping his knowledge of the Asian markets would see us sign some unknown players that could fit his system.

For me anytime generally we make marque signings they haven’t worked for one reason or another. That’s not to say I am against us signing proven players. Maddison just isn’t the answer, well certainly not at 50m.

posted on 9/6/23

comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
If we offer the same as Newcastle and he chooses them, can't really blame Levy.
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Agreed....But Spurs valuation of players is a joke. If a player chooses someone over us for the same offer.. fair enough but its the same with Raya.... Brentford want 40mln, reports are we've offered 20mln FFS. Put your ego aside Levy and get the right players in early and give our new manager a chance.... How many summer's do we have to fack this up without learning lessons. We spent 3 months pi55ing around over chump change for Spence (a player the manager didnt even want)
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See with the Ange appointment I was hoping his knowledge of the Asian markets would see us sign some unknown players that could fit his system.

For me anytime generally we make marque signings they haven’t worked for one reason or another. That’s not to say I am against us signing proven players. Maddison just isn’t the answer, well certainly not at 50m.
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I think its about finding the right balance. I'm not suggesting going on a chelsea-eque spender bender but Maddison makes a lot of sense and is a statement signing.... If we end up with little known players that can play their way into squad at CB, another forward, another midfelder etc then fine.. I certainly don't dispute the need for defensive reinforcements !!!

We all know Maddison is for sale, we know Leicester need to sell him, the need for midfielder creativity to change our style of play and to help get more from massively underperforming Son, Richie and Kulu is just as important. If we actually have more of the ball and spend more time in the opposition half then by default our defenders are under less pressure/ will make less mistakes

posted on 9/6/23

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
£40m take or leave it. Fack Leicester. Every player they have sold recently have all flopped. Chilwell, Maguire and Forfana have all carried over injuries to their new clubs and not worth what their teams paid for.

Only Mahrez and Kante have gone on to do something.

Maddison missed a few games last season on more than one occassion too. Abit injury prone perhaps?

I get Dele Ali vibes from him too. The type to start a fashion label and getting lost in the lights of London.

For him , Newcastle is better fit if he wants to play for England and play at a higher level in the CL.

To the Leicester fan who commented on his interviews, he comes across as cringey gel boy.

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If levy offers 40mln.... He'll end up and at Newcastle and we'll fall further behind. We are more desperate than they are.. There will be plenty of clubs after Maddison
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There are plenty of other attacking mids out there who would probably cost half the price and be more focused on football.

If the choice is between us and Newcastle, it's a no brainer. Take your Spurs glasses off and the choice should be Newcastle 99 times out of 100 at this moment.

Hatate, Alex Scott, Kang-In are other options. I would rather chuck £50m at Morgan Gibbs-White.

We should be priortising CB's anyway.
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See you bigging up Gibbs-white now, I suggested him last summer, got very little support

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