comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 minutes ago
I wouldn't spend the £5m on Tillman
I'd expect a return in big games from a player that costs that amount given our budget and where we are as a team....Tillman did very little in the big games we played, done absolutely sod all against Celtic, went missing in games when things didn't go his way in the first 20mins or ao
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I would like I said his numbers in his debut season as a scrub are better than any other in his position for the last couple of decades.
If your judging him on his old firm performances then no player should be kept on from last year. He only does it in the smaller games...do they games not count? he got quite a few winners and opening goals , important goals. If it was so easy to just do it in the smaller games then we wouldnt be sitting here saying his numbers are as good or better than any others that played in the same position.
I think Arfields season about 4 year ago is the only one that gets close to Tillmans numbers.
Tillman got more far goals and assists in his debut season as a pro as the like Aribo... his numbers blow Aribos out the water. I think he is as guaranteed a getter of goals and assists from midfield areas as we can get and those numbers are only gonna improve.
Clarkson is a great wee player , thats a terrific singing for Aberdeen
someone mentioned that Ramsey looks like hes taken his teeth out and i cant unsee it
signing *
you should make a bid for armstrong at Killie - he would be ideal also
looks like a striker from Slovenia, Ester Sokler,close to signing and an AM from Croatia, Tonio Teklić, then must work on a couple of centre halfs, plus Shinnie hopefully
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 minutes ago
I wouldn't spend the £5m on Tillman
I'd expect a return in big games from a player that costs that amount given our budget and where we are as a team....Tillman did very little in the big games we played, done absolutely sod all against Celtic, went missing in games when things didn't go his way in the first 20mins or ao
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I would like I said his numbers in his debut season as a scrub are better than any other in his position for the last couple of decades.
If your judging him on his old firm performances then no player should be kept on from last year. He only does it in the smaller games...do they games not count? he got quite a few winners and opening goals , important goals. If it was so easy to just do it in the smaller games then we wouldnt be sitting here saying his numbers are as good or better than any others that played in the same position.
I think Arfields season about 4 year ago is the only one that gets close to Tillmans numbers.
Tillman got more far goals and assists in his debut season as a pro as the like Aribo... his numbers blow Aribos out the water. I think he is as guaranteed a getter of goals and assists from midfield areas as we can get and those numbers are only gonna improve.
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Take all that on board....but he's £5m
Got EPL teams looking at him.now...remind me of what he did against Liverpool....fck all if I remember rightly, Matondo looked better
Where's the sense in spending £5m.on a player that only does it in the small.games....surely.can get players cheaper than that to do that job
Talking about Arfields number from 4 years ago coming close.to what Tillman produced...Arfield was a free transfer
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 minutes ago
I wouldn't spend the £5m on Tillman
I'd expect a return in big games from a player that costs that amount given our budget and where we are as a team....Tillman did very little in the big games we played, done absolutely sod all against Celtic, went missing in games when things didn't go his way in the first 20mins or ao
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I would like I said his numbers in his debut season as a scrub are better than any other in his position for the last couple of decades.
If your judging him on his old firm performances then no player should be kept on from last year. He only does it in the smaller games...do they games not count? he got quite a few winners and opening goals , important goals. If it was so easy to just do it in the smaller games then we wouldnt be sitting here saying his numbers are as good or better than any others that played in the same position.
I think Arfields season about 4 year ago is the only one that gets close to Tillmans numbers.
Tillman got more far goals and assists in his debut season as a pro as the like Aribo... his numbers blow Aribos out the water. I think he is as guaranteed a getter of goals and assists from midfield areas as we can get and those numbers are only gonna improve.
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Take all that on board....but he's £5m
Got EPL teams looking at him.now...remind me of what he did against Liverpool....fck all if I remember rightly, Matondo looked better
Where's the sense in spending £5m.on a player that only does it in the small.games....surely.can get players cheaper than that to do that job
Talking about Arfields number from 4 years ago coming close.to what Tillman produced...Arfield was a free transfer
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would you have rejected a bid for Aribo for 5m at any time? we sold an older Aribo in the last year of his deal for 6-8m. we paid 7m for kent. 5m is a good price imo. hence why Brighton are being linked for about 8-10m
£7m for Kent was wasted
Of course I would have sold Aribo for £5m, wouldn't have bought him for that though
We have the guts of a team to overhaul, £5m on one man is too much
Clarkson is a great signing for Aberdeen and good for the league too. We need more of the top 6 teams to be competitive against the OF than we've had in recent seasons. Need the league winners to be finishing in the 80-90 point range not both OF teams finishing on 90+ every year.
Tillman is a no brainer of a signing. Get him now, sell him on in January or next summer for a profit. I don't know the details of the option we had on him but surely if it's just a case of Bayern wanting to keep him or accept a better offer from the EPL then we'd have some sort of buy-out clause where they pay us to cancel the option? Not sure what happens if he just flat out rejects us or if that's even an option for him.
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 31 seconds ago
Clarkson reminds me a wee bit of Maddison, so hopefully he kicks on and is even better this season
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I was gonna say similar
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Being at Aberdeen didnt do Maddison any harm!
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Loved putting one in the top pokey against the bears
Am sure Clarkson did it as well
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posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 minutes ago
I wouldn't spend the £5m on Tillman
I'd expect a return in big games from a player that costs that amount given our budget and where we are as a team....Tillman did very little in the big games we played, done absolutely sod all against Celtic, went missing in games when things didn't go his way in the first 20mins or ao
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I would like I said his numbers in his debut season as a scrub are better than any other in his position for the last couple of decades.
If your judging him on his old firm performances then no player should be kept on from last year. He only does it in the smaller games...do they games not count? he got quite a few winners and opening goals , important goals. If it was so easy to just do it in the smaller games then we wouldnt be sitting here saying his numbers are as good or better than any others that played in the same position.
I think Arfields season about 4 year ago is the only one that gets close to Tillmans numbers.
Tillman got more far goals and assists in his debut season as a pro as the like Aribo... his numbers blow Aribos out the water. I think he is as guaranteed a getter of goals and assists from midfield areas as we can get and those numbers are only gonna improve.
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Take all that on board....but he's £5m
Got EPL teams looking at him.now...remind me of what he did against Liverpool....fck all if I remember rightly, Matondo looked better
Where's the sense in spending £5m.on a player that only does it in the small.games....surely.can get players cheaper than that to do that job
Talking about Arfields number from 4 years ago coming close.to what Tillman produced...Arfield was a free transfer
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would you have rejected a bid for Aribo for 5m at any time? we sold an older Aribo in the last year of his deal for 6-8m. we paid 7m for kent. 5m is a good price imo. hence why Brighton are being linked for about 8-10m
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You can’t win as a Rangers player. Excluding this year as he was poor, but for years all we’ve heard is Kent’s stats aren’t good enough, yet he turned up in big games, especially Europe.
Tilman would be a bargain for 5m. He’s 20, folk expecting finished product at that age in his first year as a pro and that can be our best player in small and big games aren’t thinking right. 5m is not a lot for a young player, think Aberdeen got close to that for Ramsay.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 15 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 minutes ago
I wouldn't spend the £5m on Tillman
I'd expect a return in big games from a player that costs that amount given our budget and where we are as a team....Tillman did very little in the big games we played, done absolutely sod all against Celtic, went missing in games when things didn't go his way in the first 20mins or ao
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I would like I said his numbers in his debut season as a scrub are better than any other in his position for the last couple of decades.
If your judging him on his old firm performances then no player should be kept on from last year. He only does it in the smaller games...do they games not count? he got quite a few winners and opening goals , important goals. If it was so easy to just do it in the smaller games then we wouldnt be sitting here saying his numbers are as good or better than any others that played in the same position.
I think Arfields season about 4 year ago is the only one that gets close to Tillmans numbers.
Tillman got more far goals and assists in his debut season as a pro as the like Aribo... his numbers blow Aribos out the water. I think he is as guaranteed a getter of goals and assists from midfield areas as we can get and those numbers are only gonna improve.
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Take all that on board....but he's £5m
Got EPL teams looking at him.now...remind me of what he did against Liverpool....fck all if I remember rightly, Matondo looked better
Where's the sense in spending £5m.on a player that only does it in the small.games....surely.can get players cheaper than that to do that job
Talking about Arfields number from 4 years ago coming close.to what Tillman produced...Arfield was a free transfer
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would you have rejected a bid for Aribo for 5m at any time? we sold an older Aribo in the last year of his deal for 6-8m. we paid 7m for kent. 5m is a good price imo. hence why Brighton are being linked for about 8-10m
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You can’t win as a Rangers player. Excluding this year as he was poor, but for years all we’ve heard is Kent’s stats aren’t good enough, yet he turned up in big games, especially Europe.
Tilman would be a bargain for 5m. He’s 20, folk expecting finished product at that age in his first year as a pro and that can be our best player in small and big games aren’t thinking right. 5m is not a lot for a young player, think Aberdeen got close to that for Ramsay.
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agree anyone saying they woulda accepted 5m for Aribo is wrong as evidenced due to us getting more than that in his last year of contract.
5m is a bargain for Tillman IMO. I feel that after tillman maybe found out about other offers his head woulda been turned.
After Kents loan season the fans were screaming to just pay the 7m and get him in..... Tillmans first season was far more productive than Kents with us .... twice as many goals as Kent. and like you said that was Tillman younger than Kent and also Tillmans debut season in senior football
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 32 seconds ago
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
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tbf that can only be claimed if we know what our budget was/is... Beale said he wanted to keep him so he certainly thought he was worth the spend.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 32 seconds ago
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
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tbf that can only be claimed if we know what our budget was/is... Beale said he wanted to keep him so he certainly thought he was worth the spend.
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We have seen plenty of times that Beale is a motor mouth and says loads of pash that he shouldn't.
He quite quickly as went and added two players that play in his spot so if he did want him he either wasn't prepared to wait for him or wasn't prepared to spend 5m on him.
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 32 seconds ago
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
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tbf that can only be claimed if we know what our budget was/is... Beale said he wanted to keep him so he certainly thought he was worth the spend.
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We have seen plenty of times that Beale is a motor mouth and says loads of pash that he shouldn't.
He quite quickly as went and added two players that play in his spot so if he did want him he either wasn't prepared to wait for him or wasn't prepared to spend 5m on him.
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Tillman also confirmed it .....
Or TIllman didnt want to join ....
or we couldnt offer him good enough terms , there is loads of reasons as to why it may or not go ahead.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 32 seconds ago
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
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tbf that can only be claimed if we know what our budget was/is... Beale said he wanted to keep him so he certainly thought he was worth the spend.
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Tbf that’s easy to say without qualification. Germans not known for reneging on the agreed conditions either. Then there’s personal terms….
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 32 seconds ago
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
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tbf that can only be claimed if we know what our budget was/is... Beale said he wanted to keep him so he certainly thought he was worth the spend.
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Tbf that’s easy to say without qualification. Germans not known for reneging on the agreed conditions either. Then there’s personal terms….
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Im just saying that Beale and the player both confirmed in interviews that we wanted to sign him and he wanted to be here. Beale and the player also confimed that they were gonna meet to discuss it in more detail and Tillman said it was 50/50.
If I were to guess I think his agent has made him aware of what other offers are out there and interested that could pay more than we can and play in a better standard of league.
If they both wanted him to be here and we had the money he would be.
So one or multiple parts of that aren't true. It's no great loss, it would have hamstrung us in regards to making other signings.
Right player, wrong time.
Still, Clarkson is a great signing
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 9 minutes ago
Still, Clarkson is a great signing
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that he is !!
as someone else said the better the likes of aberdeen, hearts and hibs can get the more it will benefit our game.
we could really do with those three clubs playing europe as often as possible so they can actually invest in themselves properly
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 10 minutes ago
Still, Clarkson is a great signing
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Especially when your rivals replace him with Joey Tribiani and Chris Evans. Then it looks even better.
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posted on 15/6/23
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 minutes ago
I wouldn't spend the £5m on Tillman
I'd expect a return in big games from a player that costs that amount given our budget and where we are as a team....Tillman did very little in the big games we played, done absolutely sod all against Celtic, went missing in games when things didn't go his way in the first 20mins or ao
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I would like I said his numbers in his debut season as a scrub are better than any other in his position for the last couple of decades.
If your judging him on his old firm performances then no player should be kept on from last year. He only does it in the smaller games...do they games not count? he got quite a few winners and opening goals , important goals. If it was so easy to just do it in the smaller games then we wouldnt be sitting here saying his numbers are as good or better than any others that played in the same position.
I think Arfields season about 4 year ago is the only one that gets close to Tillmans numbers.
Tillman got more far goals and assists in his debut season as a pro as the like Aribo... his numbers blow Aribos out the water. I think he is as guaranteed a getter of goals and assists from midfield areas as we can get and those numbers are only gonna improve.
posted on 15/6/23
Clarkson is a great wee player , thats a terrific singing for Aberdeen
someone mentioned that Ramsey looks like hes taken his teeth out and i cant unsee it
posted on 15/6/23
signing *
you should make a bid for armstrong at Killie - he would be ideal also
posted on 15/6/23
looks like a striker from Slovenia, Ester Sokler,close to signing and an AM from Croatia, Tonio Teklić, then must work on a couple of centre halfs, plus Shinnie hopefully
posted on 15/6/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 minutes ago
I wouldn't spend the £5m on Tillman
I'd expect a return in big games from a player that costs that amount given our budget and where we are as a team....Tillman did very little in the big games we played, done absolutely sod all against Celtic, went missing in games when things didn't go his way in the first 20mins or ao
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I would like I said his numbers in his debut season as a scrub are better than any other in his position for the last couple of decades.
If your judging him on his old firm performances then no player should be kept on from last year. He only does it in the smaller games...do they games not count? he got quite a few winners and opening goals , important goals. If it was so easy to just do it in the smaller games then we wouldnt be sitting here saying his numbers are as good or better than any others that played in the same position.
I think Arfields season about 4 year ago is the only one that gets close to Tillmans numbers.
Tillman got more far goals and assists in his debut season as a pro as the like Aribo... his numbers blow Aribos out the water. I think he is as guaranteed a getter of goals and assists from midfield areas as we can get and those numbers are only gonna improve.
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Take all that on board....but he's £5m
Got EPL teams looking at him.now...remind me of what he did against Liverpool....fck all if I remember rightly, Matondo looked better
Where's the sense in spending £5m.on a player that only does it in the small.games....surely.can get players cheaper than that to do that job
Talking about Arfields number from 4 years ago coming close.to what Tillman produced...Arfield was a free transfer
posted on 15/6/23
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 minutes ago
I wouldn't spend the £5m on Tillman
I'd expect a return in big games from a player that costs that amount given our budget and where we are as a team....Tillman did very little in the big games we played, done absolutely sod all against Celtic, went missing in games when things didn't go his way in the first 20mins or ao
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I would like I said his numbers in his debut season as a scrub are better than any other in his position for the last couple of decades.
If your judging him on his old firm performances then no player should be kept on from last year. He only does it in the smaller games...do they games not count? he got quite a few winners and opening goals , important goals. If it was so easy to just do it in the smaller games then we wouldnt be sitting here saying his numbers are as good or better than any others that played in the same position.
I think Arfields season about 4 year ago is the only one that gets close to Tillmans numbers.
Tillman got more far goals and assists in his debut season as a pro as the like Aribo... his numbers blow Aribos out the water. I think he is as guaranteed a getter of goals and assists from midfield areas as we can get and those numbers are only gonna improve.
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Take all that on board....but he's £5m
Got EPL teams looking at him.now...remind me of what he did against Liverpool....fck all if I remember rightly, Matondo looked better
Where's the sense in spending £5m.on a player that only does it in the small.games....surely.can get players cheaper than that to do that job
Talking about Arfields number from 4 years ago coming close.to what Tillman produced...Arfield was a free transfer
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would you have rejected a bid for Aribo for 5m at any time? we sold an older Aribo in the last year of his deal for 6-8m. we paid 7m for kent. 5m is a good price imo. hence why Brighton are being linked for about 8-10m
posted on 15/6/23
£7m for Kent was wasted
Of course I would have sold Aribo for £5m, wouldn't have bought him for that though
We have the guts of a team to overhaul, £5m on one man is too much
posted on 15/6/23
Clarkson is a great signing for Aberdeen and good for the league too. We need more of the top 6 teams to be competitive against the OF than we've had in recent seasons. Need the league winners to be finishing in the 80-90 point range not both OF teams finishing on 90+ every year.
Tillman is a no brainer of a signing. Get him now, sell him on in January or next summer for a profit. I don't know the details of the option we had on him but surely if it's just a case of Bayern wanting to keep him or accept a better offer from the EPL then we'd have some sort of buy-out clause where they pay us to cancel the option? Not sure what happens if he just flat out rejects us or if that's even an option for him.
posted on 15/6/23
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 31 seconds ago
Clarkson reminds me a wee bit of Maddison, so hopefully he kicks on and is even better this season
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I was gonna say similar
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Being at Aberdeen didnt do Maddison any harm!
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Loved putting one in the top pokey against the bears
posted on 15/6/23
Am sure Clarkson did it as well
posted on 15/6/23
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posted on 15/6/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 minutes ago
I wouldn't spend the £5m on Tillman
I'd expect a return in big games from a player that costs that amount given our budget and where we are as a team....Tillman did very little in the big games we played, done absolutely sod all against Celtic, went missing in games when things didn't go his way in the first 20mins or ao
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I would like I said his numbers in his debut season as a scrub are better than any other in his position for the last couple of decades.
If your judging him on his old firm performances then no player should be kept on from last year. He only does it in the smaller games...do they games not count? he got quite a few winners and opening goals , important goals. If it was so easy to just do it in the smaller games then we wouldnt be sitting here saying his numbers are as good or better than any others that played in the same position.
I think Arfields season about 4 year ago is the only one that gets close to Tillmans numbers.
Tillman got more far goals and assists in his debut season as a pro as the like Aribo... his numbers blow Aribos out the water. I think he is as guaranteed a getter of goals and assists from midfield areas as we can get and those numbers are only gonna improve.
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Take all that on board....but he's £5m
Got EPL teams looking at him.now...remind me of what he did against Liverpool....fck all if I remember rightly, Matondo looked better
Where's the sense in spending £5m.on a player that only does it in the small.games....surely.can get players cheaper than that to do that job
Talking about Arfields number from 4 years ago coming close.to what Tillman produced...Arfield was a free transfer
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would you have rejected a bid for Aribo for 5m at any time? we sold an older Aribo in the last year of his deal for 6-8m. we paid 7m for kent. 5m is a good price imo. hence why Brighton are being linked for about 8-10m
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You can’t win as a Rangers player. Excluding this year as he was poor, but for years all we’ve heard is Kent’s stats aren’t good enough, yet he turned up in big games, especially Europe.
Tilman would be a bargain for 5m. He’s 20, folk expecting finished product at that age in his first year as a pro and that can be our best player in small and big games aren’t thinking right. 5m is not a lot for a young player, think Aberdeen got close to that for Ramsay.
posted on 16/6/23
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 15 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 minutes ago
I wouldn't spend the £5m on Tillman
I'd expect a return in big games from a player that costs that amount given our budget and where we are as a team....Tillman did very little in the big games we played, done absolutely sod all against Celtic, went missing in games when things didn't go his way in the first 20mins or ao
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I would like I said his numbers in his debut season as a scrub are better than any other in his position for the last couple of decades.
If your judging him on his old firm performances then no player should be kept on from last year. He only does it in the smaller games...do they games not count? he got quite a few winners and opening goals , important goals. If it was so easy to just do it in the smaller games then we wouldnt be sitting here saying his numbers are as good or better than any others that played in the same position.
I think Arfields season about 4 year ago is the only one that gets close to Tillmans numbers.
Tillman got more far goals and assists in his debut season as a pro as the like Aribo... his numbers blow Aribos out the water. I think he is as guaranteed a getter of goals and assists from midfield areas as we can get and those numbers are only gonna improve.
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Take all that on board....but he's £5m
Got EPL teams looking at him.now...remind me of what he did against Liverpool....fck all if I remember rightly, Matondo looked better
Where's the sense in spending £5m.on a player that only does it in the small.games....surely.can get players cheaper than that to do that job
Talking about Arfields number from 4 years ago coming close.to what Tillman produced...Arfield was a free transfer
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would you have rejected a bid for Aribo for 5m at any time? we sold an older Aribo in the last year of his deal for 6-8m. we paid 7m for kent. 5m is a good price imo. hence why Brighton are being linked for about 8-10m
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You can’t win as a Rangers player. Excluding this year as he was poor, but for years all we’ve heard is Kent’s stats aren’t good enough, yet he turned up in big games, especially Europe.
Tilman would be a bargain for 5m. He’s 20, folk expecting finished product at that age in his first year as a pro and that can be our best player in small and big games aren’t thinking right. 5m is not a lot for a young player, think Aberdeen got close to that for Ramsay.
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agree anyone saying they woulda accepted 5m for Aribo is wrong as evidenced due to us getting more than that in his last year of contract.
5m is a bargain for Tillman IMO. I feel that after tillman maybe found out about other offers his head woulda been turned.
After Kents loan season the fans were screaming to just pay the 7m and get him in..... Tillmans first season was far more productive than Kents with us .... twice as many goals as Kent. and like you said that was Tillman younger than Kent and also Tillmans debut season in senior football
posted on 16/6/23
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
posted on 16/6/23
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 32 seconds ago
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
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tbf that can only be claimed if we know what our budget was/is... Beale said he wanted to keep him so he certainly thought he was worth the spend.
posted on 16/6/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 32 seconds ago
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
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tbf that can only be claimed if we know what our budget was/is... Beale said he wanted to keep him so he certainly thought he was worth the spend.
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We have seen plenty of times that Beale is a motor mouth and says loads of pash that he shouldn't.
He quite quickly as went and added two players that play in his spot so if he did want him he either wasn't prepared to wait for him or wasn't prepared to spend 5m on him.
posted on 16/6/23
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 32 seconds ago
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
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tbf that can only be claimed if we know what our budget was/is... Beale said he wanted to keep him so he certainly thought he was worth the spend.
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We have seen plenty of times that Beale is a motor mouth and says loads of pash that he shouldn't.
He quite quickly as went and added two players that play in his spot so if he did want him he either wasn't prepared to wait for him or wasn't prepared to spend 5m on him.
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Tillman also confirmed it .....
posted on 16/6/23
Or TIllman didnt want to join ....
posted on 16/6/23
or we couldnt offer him good enough terms , there is loads of reasons as to why it may or not go ahead.
posted on 16/6/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 32 seconds ago
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
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tbf that can only be claimed if we know what our budget was/is... Beale said he wanted to keep him so he certainly thought he was worth the spend.
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Tbf that’s easy to say without qualification. Germans not known for reneging on the agreed conditions either. Then there’s personal terms….
posted on 16/6/23
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 32 seconds ago
Tillman is a good player but is he worth that much of our budget. Not for me this season, there are priority areas we need to spend on not on a 7th player that can play behind the striker.
If we had a good team and needed a number 10 then yes I would definitely sign him.
I think we've already moved on given the signings we have made, he's not coming.
Someone will get a good player though.
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tbf that can only be claimed if we know what our budget was/is... Beale said he wanted to keep him so he certainly thought he was worth the spend.
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Tbf that’s easy to say without qualification. Germans not known for reneging on the agreed conditions either. Then there’s personal terms….
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Im just saying that Beale and the player both confirmed in interviews that we wanted to sign him and he wanted to be here. Beale and the player also confimed that they were gonna meet to discuss it in more detail and Tillman said it was 50/50.
If I were to guess I think his agent has made him aware of what other offers are out there and interested that could pay more than we can and play in a better standard of league.
posted on 16/6/23
If they both wanted him to be here and we had the money he would be.
So one or multiple parts of that aren't true. It's no great loss, it would have hamstrung us in regards to making other signings.
Right player, wrong time.
posted on 16/6/23
Still, Clarkson is a great signing
posted on 16/6/23
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 9 minutes ago
Still, Clarkson is a great signing
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that he is !!
as someone else said the better the likes of aberdeen, hearts and hibs can get the more it will benefit our game.
we could really do with those three clubs playing europe as often as possible so they can actually invest in themselves properly
posted on 16/6/23
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 10 minutes ago
Still, Clarkson is a great signing
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Especially when your rivals replace him with Joey Tribiani and Chris Evans. Then it looks even better.
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