comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 15 minutes ago

I haven’t seen it. Perhaps he could surprise me but as a Cavellite I’ve enjoyed watching him extend his range in Man from Uncle and Mission Impossible.
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I don't have an opinion or much interest in who the next Bond is. Just correcting the record on Norton as someone who can only play ineffectual posh characters.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
Warwick Davis would be good.

How can gender not matter to people when that would totally change the character? For a start he couldn't even be called James Bond unless it's a female to male pre-op transgender who calls herself that.
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As long as a new female JB kept seducing the pretty ladies

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 28 seconds ago
Race doesn't really bother me. Although I would say that the James Bond character is a white as the Shaft character is black. But Idris Elba would have done a fine job either way - he's an incredible actor.

Gender would bother me more.

The Bond franchise is a bit tired to be honest. If they want to take it in a new direction then they should look at focusing more on characters within the Bond universe. Introduce a new female agent and have a story about her - maybe crossing over into a case Bond is working on. Perhaps have Elba play Felix Leiter and have all 3 of the characters stories intertwining over the course of a few movies.
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You mean destroy the entire franchise by applying the ridiculous Marvel model?
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I am a bit apathetic to Bond to be honest. Do you think it'd ruin it? Perhaps it would. But how much longer can you keep trotting out the tired old format? The Craig movies mixed things up a bit, but that has been done now. What is next? I think that there has to be something different, otherwise the franchise will become irrelevant.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 15 minutes ago

I haven’t seen it. Perhaps he could surprise me but as a Cavellite I’ve enjoyed watching him extend his range in Man from Uncle and Mission Impossible.
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I don't have an opinion or much interest in who the next Bond is. Just correcting the record on Norton as someone who can only play ineffectual posh characters.
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Noted 🫶

comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● LEVY OUT- ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 3 minutes ago
How the fack can you have a black James Bond, I've never heard such nonsense.

With the nonsense way the world is these days I wouldn't be surprised if the next Bond is some kind of LGBT black female with tourettes, and who identifies as an out of date cucumber.
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The daily mail comments section is over there ——>
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Isn't the guy from peaky blinders one of the favourites for the new Bond

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 28 seconds ago
Race doesn't really bother me. Although I would say that the James Bond character is a white as the Shaft character is black. But Idris Elba would have done a fine job either way - he's an incredible actor.

Gender would bother me more.

The Bond franchise is a bit tired to be honest. If they want to take it in a new direction then they should look at focusing more on characters within the Bond universe. Introduce a new female agent and have a story about her - maybe crossing over into a case Bond is working on. Perhaps have Elba play Felix Leiter and have all 3 of the characters stories intertwining over the course of a few movies.
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You mean destroy the entire franchise by applying the ridiculous Marvel model?
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I am a bit apathetic to Bond to be honest. Do you think it'd ruin it? Perhaps it would. But how much longer can you keep trotting out the tired old format? The Craig movies mixed things up a bit, but that has been done now. What is next? I think that there has to be something different, otherwise the franchise will become irrelevant.
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I'm in the same camp. Bond movies being an authentic cultural force relied on two things that aren't really credible anymore.

The first is outrageous flamboyance based on supervillains in tropical lairs / hollowed out volcanos. Public credulity puts a limit on that today, but the more concessions you make to realism, the less Bond-filmy it becomes.

The second is the conceit that the UK possesses significant geopolitical heft. That was already dwindling in real life in the Connery years, but it takes generations for perception to catch up with reality.

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)

Isn't the guy from peaky blinders one of the favourites for the new Bond
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I was just about to say that, Cilian Murphy is a fantastic actor. Not sure if he's charismatic enough but that might be coloured by him looking so dour in every advert for Oppenheimer at the mo

comment by Dave the Save (U22987)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Should be a Northern, short, bisexual, mixed race person, with Autism and a limp.
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Matth knocked it back.

comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 30 minutes ago
I’m confused. Don’t people realise that they’ll just reboot the whole Bond franchise? The Craig ‘universe’ is over so they’ll just recast everyone and start again.
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No James Bond has ever died before though.

I really hope the Bond franchise dont end up bowing to the pressure of race and gender because god knows what we’ll end up with!

Probably some “person” in a rainbow suit say “the names Bond and I identify as a cat”

Puussy Galore would be well piissed off at that one!

comment by Red Russian (U4715)

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The second is the conceit that the UK possesses significant geopolitical heft. That was already dwindling in real life in the Connery years, but it takes generations for perception to catch up with reality.
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Arguably this doesn't matter too much since it's escapism and also the enemies tend be old ones, but also this particular point is hinted at quite a lot in the recent movies with Felix the CIA dude.

Gone are the days of George Lazenby who had no acting experience and was offered the role of Bond whilst he was having a three some.

Where would we be with Fiction without he willing suspension of disbelief.

comment by The Duality of Van (Dijk) (U21747)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)

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The second is the conceit that the UK possesses significant geopolitical heft. That was already dwindling in real life in the Connery years, but it takes generations for perception to catch up with reality.
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Arguably this doesn't matter too much since it's escapism and also the enemies tend be old ones, but also this particular point is hinted at quite a lot in the recent movies with Felix the CIA dude.
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Yeah, they acknowledge this to an extent just as the franchise (to an extent) dials down the outrageously unrealistic concepts. My point is that both of these things were baked into the premise of what a Bond movie should be. The larger than life thing is still hinted at in the theme music and the John Barry echoes in the scores, but it can't quite live up to that because it would seem ridiculous to a modern audience. And Bond the character still has various affectations of the British gentleman, but the UK simply doesn't have the cultural cachet that it used to.

I suspect the inevitable sinking into irrelevance / a nostalgia act for those who grew up on Connery or Moore has been delayed to an extent by the fact that Craig as an actor was the best Bond in ages (if not best of all).

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 30 minutes ago
I’m confused. Don’t people realise that they’ll just reboot the whole Bond franchise? The Craig ‘universe’ is over so they’ll just recast everyone and start again.
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No James Bond has ever died before though.
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Technically, no one really saw him die.

comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 30 minutes ago
I’m confused. Don’t people realise that they’ll just reboot the whole Bond franchise? The Craig ‘universe’ is over so they’ll just recast everyone and start again.
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No James Bond has ever died before though.
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Technically, no one really saw him die.


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Correct. So whats the plot to get him out alive I wonder.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Duality of Van (Dijk) (U21747)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)

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The second is the conceit that the UK possesses significant geopolitical heft. That was already dwindling in real life in the Connery years, but it takes generations for perception to catch up with reality.
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Arguably this doesn't matter too much since it's escapism and also the enemies tend be old ones, but also this particular point is hinted at quite a lot in the recent movies with Felix the CIA dude.
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Yeah, they acknowledge this to an extent just as the franchise (to an extent) dials down the outrageously unrealistic concepts. My point is that both of these things were baked into the premise of what a Bond movie should be. The larger than life thing is still hinted at in the theme music and the John Barry echoes in the scores, but it can't quite live up to that because it would seem ridiculous to a modern audience. And Bond the character still has various affectations of the British gentleman, but the UK simply doesn't have the cultural cachet that it used to.

I suspect the inevitable sinking into irrelevance / a nostalgia act for those who grew up on Connery or Moore has been delayed to an extent by the fact that Craig as an actor was the best Bond in ages (if not best of all).
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Yeah, fair point and I agree with you. I was surprised how affected I was by the end of the last, hadn't really considered Craig was the Bond I grew up with basically but I think he was the best too.

On that point, I saw a bit of Casino Royale recently and it's aged very well I think, it's a perfect mix of camp and action I think (probably still prefer Skyfall overall though)

Yes, the Craig films have been well made, and I think they've done about as well as they could have at reimagining the formula for today's world.

It was a shame Brosnan had to go out kite surfing on a tsunami, he deserved better.

And Craig was the best Bond by a mile. Which is down to not just to him, although he was brilliant, but also the hugely superior darker screenplays, Zimmeresque music scores, creative art direction, etc than any of the other eras. And not too dependant on busty Bond Girls, Partridge humour and cheese.

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
And Craig was the best Bond by a mile. Which is down to not just to him, although he was brilliant, but also the hugely superior darker screenplays, Zimmeresque music scores, creative art direction, etc than any of the other eras. And not too dependant on busty Bond Girls, Partridge humour and cheese.

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Question of Sport was inarguably one of the very worst Bond movies though.

From start to finish Casino Royale was the very best and I’ll die on that hill. Eva Green 😻

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 30 minutes ago
I’m confused. Don’t people realise that they’ll just reboot the whole Bond franchise? The Craig ‘universe’ is over so they’ll just recast everyone and start again.
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No James Bond has ever died before though.
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Technically, no one really saw him die.


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Correct. So whats the plot to get him out alive I wonder.
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I can't remember all the details, but Ian Fleming wrote a somewhat similar story arc in YOLT.

Bond suffers a blow to the head in an explosion after killing Blofeld, loses his memory, washes up on a beach and settles down to married life as a Japanese fisherman.

His new wife keeps the story hidden, while the rest of the world believes him dead; complete with an obituary appearing in the papers.

Later on, he then reads something about "Vladivostok" which triggers a fuzzy memory. Setting things up for "From Russia with Love".

comment by BraveheartTyke (U6173)
posted 7 minutes ago
It was a shame Brosnan had to go out kite surfing on a tsunami, he deserved better.
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Maybe Craig drove away in that invisible car.

We have had Bond presumed dead and MIA before. He even had a funeral after he took the shot on top of the train.

They couldnt seriously do it again.