it should make perfect sense ??

perhaps you need to log out check and log back in to see it??

Never known someone to defend the price of a playstation so much before. Are you a Sony employee?

comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 38 seconds ago
Never known someone to defend the price of a playstation so much before. Are you a Sony employee?
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Or perhaps its about challenging the validity of the things you have claimed.

you know, claims like you saying you can barely tell the difference in the graphics as being the main reason .... the guy who custom built a gaming PC with a Graphics Card worth almost a grand. you know claims like that and such

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
you know, claims like you saying you can barely tell the difference in the graphics as being the main reason .... the guy who custom built a gaming PC with a Graphics Card worth almost a grand. you know claims like that and such
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Have you had a ps4 pro and a ps5 side by side, on the same model 4k television?

comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
you know, claims like you saying you can barely tell the difference in the graphics as being the main reason .... the guy who custom built a gaming PC with a Graphics Card worth almost a grand. you know claims like that and such
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Have you had a ps4 pro and a ps5 side by side, on the same model 4k television?
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Iv seen them side by side yes if thats what you're asking .... Iv never had both of them myself to answer your question correctly.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
you know, claims like you saying you can barely tell the difference in the graphics as being the main reason .... the guy who custom built a gaming PC with a Graphics Card worth almost a grand. you know claims like that and such
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Have you had a ps4 pro and a ps5 side by side, on the same model 4k television?
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Iv seen them side by side yes if thats what you're asking .... Iv never had both of them myself to answer your question correctly.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdGR3SU4a5U

yeah id say the ray tracing especially is quite noticeable.

.... once more are you saying as someone that custom built a gaming PC with a graphics card worth nearly a grand can barely tell the difference in performance and graphics

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 12 minutes ago
yeah id say the ray tracing especially is quite noticeable.

.... once more are you saying as someone that custom built a gaming PC with a graphics card worth nearly a grand can barely tell the difference in performance and graphics
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Lol come on mate. The difference between the pro and the ps5 is quite minimal. You're just making stuff up if you can see huge differences.

If anything, I believe the ps5 has more potential than what is being shown here.

I'm amazed how good the ps4 looks, for a 10 year old console.

Tbh it's difficult to tell through compressed videos.
I've seen them side by side though, and ps5 does look better. Slightly better textures, smoother gameplay due to higher FPS but ps4 still looks and plays fantastic

comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 12 minutes ago
yeah id say the ray tracing especially is quite noticeable.

.... once more are you saying as someone that custom built a gaming PC with a graphics card worth nearly a grand can barely tell the difference in performance and graphics
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Lol come on mate. The difference between the pro and the ps5 is quite minimal. You're just making stuff up if you can see huge differences.

If anything, I believe the ps5 has more potential than what is being shown here.

I'm amazed how good the ps4 looks, for a 10 year old console.
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I can spot ray tracing a mile off ... are you saying you cant ?

Of course the PS5 has more potential ... see you make so may comments and say so many things that should be common knowledge to a gamer.

As long as they are making games that need to be dumbed down so they are compatible with the PS4, we wont see they true potential unless is a PS5 exclusive game.

You coulda bought a graphics card for half the value (not noticed the difference barely) and bought a PS5 and have change.

I think the point im trying to make is.
I have no need to upgrade to ps5 right now as what I currently have looks and plays brilliant.
Ignore the gaming PC, as its irrelevant in this situation.

My previous gaming pc had a 10 year old GPU that could just about play league of legends

I wanted an upgrade so I could play the latest last of us remake, play a bit of WoW, some warzone 2 all on max settings. I used it for about 4-5 months before being given a laptop and a desktop computer of my choice from work lol

Oh I can't remember who said it but loading times are one of the main things because of the SSD. I play all games on the hardest mode, so without the ps5 I'll be sat on loading screens for fooking ages

Had the same thing with calisto protocol. One death meant over a minutes worth of loading screens.

The loading time stuff is insane really, nowadays it's just a door taking a second or two to open to load a whole new part of the map.

There’s a significant difference between a PS4 Pro & a PS5; you need look no further than next-gen exclusives like Demon’s Souls (which was launch day) and Hogwarts Legacy (which I think is coming out on last gen, if it hasn’t already, but was significantly delayed), and cross-gen games like Elden Ring, which really couldn’t function as a product at the beginning of its time on last gen consoles. In fact, I remember hearing that the only platform it could run fluidly on at launch was the PS5, and that included PC.

If you play games that haven’t really been optimised for or built for next gen consoles, sure, the difference in graphics won’t be huge, but performance certainly will be. That’s more down to lazy development, or simple unfortunate timing of the development process/ next gen crossover.

Irrespective, a YouTube video, which doesn’t stream in native 4K HDR and is most likely watched on your phone which itself does not support 4K HDR, will never elucidate you as to the differences.

Game selection plays a big part in the comparison, but there are a lot of games now that look & perform materially better on PS5 and that divide will only continue to increase.

My biggest gripe with next gen atm is that XBox have pretty much doomed the generation from fulfilling its potential due to the Series S, which is basically a PS4 Pro Pro. Any multi platform next gen game must also be compatible with Series S, which means that developers cannot utilise the hardware of a PS5 or Series X without an entirely bespoke, additional development process, which just isn’t feasible from an economic perspective.

It will be interesting to see how many developers start to take the Larian route, who when developing Balder’s Gate 3 have delayed the XBox release by an undisclosed amount of time (thought to be around a year) specifically due to the S.

For that reason (and several others), the biggest difference you will see is on PlayStation exclusives

comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 5 minutes ago
There’s a significant difference between a PS4 Pro & a PS5; you need look no further than next-gen exclusives like Demon’s Souls (which was launch day) and Hogwarts Legacy (which I think is coming out on last gen, if it hasn’t already, but was significantly delayed), and cross-gen games like Elden Ring, which really couldn’t function as a product at the beginning of its time on last gen consoles. In fact, I remember hearing that the only platform it could run fluidly on at launch was the PS5, and that included PC.

If you play games that haven’t really been optimised for or built for next gen consoles, sure, the difference in graphics won’t be huge, but performance certainly will be. That’s more down to lazy development, or simple unfortunate timing of the development process/ next gen crossover.

Irrespective, a YouTube video, which doesn’t stream in native 4K HDR and is most likely watched on your phone which itself does not support 4K HDR, will never elucidate you as to the differences.

Game selection plays a big part in the comparison, but there are a lot of games now that look & perform materially better on PS5 and that divide will only continue to increase.

My biggest gripe with next gen atm is that XBox have pretty much doomed the generation from fulfilling its potential due to the Series S, which is basically a PS4 Pro Pro. Any multi platform next gen game must also be compatible with Series S, which means that developers cannot utilise the hardware of a PS5 or Series X without an entirely bespoke, additional development process, which just isn’t feasible from an economic perspective.

It will be interesting to see how many developers start to take the Larian route, who when developing Balder’s Gate 3 have delayed the XBox release by an undisclosed amount of time (thought to be around a year) specifically due to the S.

For that reason (and several others), the biggest difference you will see is on PlayStation exclusives
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Well said - though the only thing I would say is a Sereis S isn't even as powerful as PS4 Pro.....it has some modern benefits from being a newer platform, but its generally a last gen console that can just about manage 1080. But yeh keeping stuff cross-gen for so long can really hurt games/franchises (unfortunately this is just as much as the fact that game dev times/cost have more or less doubled over the last 15 years), but if people are happy with subpar products and continue to buy them studios will continue to produce them even if the design teams don't really want to

comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 22 minutes ago
There’s a significant difference between a PS4 Pro & a PS5; you need look no further than next-gen exclusives like Demon’s Souls (which was launch day) and Hogwarts Legacy (which I think is coming out on last gen, if it hasn’t already, but was significantly delayed), and cross-gen games like Elden Ring, which really couldn’t function as a product at the beginning of its time on last gen consoles. In fact, I remember hearing that the only platform it could run fluidly on at launch was the PS5, and that included PC.

If you play games that haven’t really been optimised for or built for next gen consoles, sure, the difference in graphics won’t be huge, but performance certainly will be. That’s more down to lazy development, or simple unfortunate timing of the development process/ next gen crossover.

Irrespective, a YouTube video, which doesn’t stream in native 4K HDR and is most likely watched on your phone which itself does not support 4K HDR, will never elucidate you as to the differences.

Game selection plays a big part in the comparison, but there are a lot of games now that look & perform materially better on PS5 and that divide will only continue to increase.

My biggest gripe with next gen atm is that XBox have pretty much doomed the generation from fulfilling its potential due to the Series S, which is basically a PS4 Pro Pro. Any multi platform next gen game must also be compatible with Series S, which means that developers cannot utilise the hardware of a PS5 or Series X without an entirely bespoke, additional development process, which just isn’t feasible from an economic perspective.

It will be interesting to see how many developers start to take the Larian route, who when developing Balder’s Gate 3 have delayed the XBox release by an undisclosed amount of time (thought to be around a year) specifically due to the S.

For that reason (and several others), the biggest difference you will see is on PlayStation exclusives
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Fair points, although I was watching that video on a 27inch 4k monitor - still it won't show you 100% trueness.