The only positive from all the disappointment in being gazumped by Bournemouth and these rats leaving a sinking ship, although I hope to God we're not literally a sinking ship, is we can all see now the club does have significant funds to play with and that must surely give Farke a very good foundation to build a strong promotion challenging team.... every cloud!
Seems like only yesterday we were talking about "mission accomplished" and Farke having brought about unity at the club. Team building doesn't happen overnight as was suggested. We have got quite a rocky road ahead with others to follow out the door still.
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 40 minutes ago
Told
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Makes sense now. Apologies Jonty
comment by Elsbels - Man of colour (U21658)
posted 1 minute ago
Seems like only yesterday we were talking about "mission accomplished" and Farke having brought about unity at the club. Team building doesn't happen overnight as was suggested. We have got quite a rocky road ahead with others to follow out the door still.
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That was me
I think he has.
We saw it on the pitch Sunday, saw it on the pitch yesterday.
Where do you not see the unity? Gnonto?
We've heard no reports from the club of any issues.
If Gnonto does indeed want out, then I'm not surprised, I dont see it affecting whet Farke is delivering, I'd expect any new manager to be dealing who some who want to leave.
Love the kid, think he has the potential to be a world talent.
get rid if he has refused to play
Love Gnonto but even I think he needs to be sold.
Yes, he’s forcing a move. Just hope 49ers aren’t the
Type to get mad or emotional over what is business.
Sell every player who doesn’t want to be here.
Go buy players that do.
And - I don’t want to see any of the clause loanees
Or the ones who want out, in a Leeds shirt again.
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 2 minutes ago
And - I don’t want to see any of the clause loanees
Or the ones who want out, in a Leeds shirt again.
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One wonders what happens if we get promoted and loanee wants to come back to get his original Prem wages cos it didn't work out elsewhere.
comment by Earl * * Not available in N.I. (U9333)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Remember the times when player loyalty counted for something.
Always sceptical now when seeing players kiss the badge
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Even Coops 'F@ck off' dressing room speech seems a bit hollow now, given that he wants to follow the Saudi dollar (or Riyal...).
comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Earl * * Not available in N.I. (U9333)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Remember the times when player loyalty counted for something.
Always sceptical now when seeing players kiss the badge
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Even Coops 'F@ck off' dressing room speech seems a bit hollow now, given that he wants to follow the Saudi dollar (or Riyal...).
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"he wants to follow"
Where has Cooper actually said this?
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Earl * * Not available in N.I. (U9333)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Remember the times when player loyalty counted for something.
Always sceptical now when seeing players kiss the badge
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Even Coops 'F@ck off' dressing room speech seems a bit hollow now, given that he wants to follow the Saudi dollar (or Riyal...).
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"he wants to follow"
Where has Cooper actually said this?
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Liam has more than paid his dues to Leeds. If he's got an offer, if, then I'd not begrudge him it. We'd all probably do the same.
I've not seen him say anything, just media stuff.
Feel really bad for Liam. 31, possible life changing
Contract, gets injured scoring a goal with no regard
To his own safety or consequences. Great bloke.
He’s a true pro. And great servant of the club.
I don’t agree with what the Saudis are doing. Or
Really anything that they do as an entity. However,
Can’t begrudged or judge Liam.
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 9 minutes ago
Feel really bad for Liam. 31, possible life changing
Contract, gets injured scoring a goal with no regard
To his own safety or consequences. Great bloke.
He’s a true pro. And great servant of the club.
I don’t agree with what the Saudis are doing. Or
Really anything that they do as an entity. However,
Can’t begrudged or judge Liam.
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I've lived and worked in Saudi. A place that really challenges your thoughts .... fascinating, abusive, scenic ... so many descriptions. I can't judge anyone for going to work there, I did. I certainly didn't agree with much of the "norms" there, but I did experience and meet loads of local Saudi's, many of which I found fantastic and friendly.
So, that 's Gnonto gone then
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 7 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پا... (U2805)
posted 42 minutes ago
£30m really? He’s had a few decent games but spends a lot of time whinging and moaning at opposition or ref. Happy to get anything between 15-20m for him
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I think we’ve turned that down already. Everton gone quiet now.
Difficult for the club as he’s an asset we can’t allow to sit and rot. Also if he’s refused to play then he won’t be welcomed by the fans - although Byram seems forgiven.
In todays market he’s got to be worth more than Rutter surely?
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Got to agree, the only thing I would say is don't regard what we paid for Rutter as any indication of a value for a player!
We were royally shafted on that deal
Not really any way back for Gnonto unless he publicly apologises and sends 1 month wages to local charities Other than that he is dead to me and should never be selected again.
Do we know that he refused to play or did the club make him unavailable because a deal has been agreed?
If all of this is based on Farke’s comments it could be either or.
Farke could be frustrated that the club have agreed to sell him.
Either way he’s not going to play for Leeds again is he.
Out of all of this, one feature stands out for me.
Farke.
His management of the situation has been excellent so far. He has refused to get involved at an emotional level, either to castigate Gnonto, or complain about players crying off. He has kept it respectful and professional. Can you imagine how JM would have handled this?
One thing is for sure. We have a tough match on Saturday and we need Gnonto on board. It would be a bad look for him to pull this kind of stunt again.If anyone can get him back in, to toe the line, and to fulfil his professional duties, it's Farke. He will also have to settle down any animosities among his teammates. Everything we have seen so far from Farke suggests he knows the best way to approach this.
Whether Gnonto stays or goes, right now, he is contracted to play for us. So let's see him do his talking on the pitch at the weekend. A winning goal would be a nice way to make his apologies and move on.
Everton have been told by Leeds that Italian striker Wilfried Gnonto, 19, is not for sale and are now on the cusp of signing 19-year-old Portuguese forward Youssef Chermiti from Sporting Lisbon. (Liverpool Echo)
Evidently he did reply to a fan who questioned him on social media with the words “not true”. Then he deleted it for some reason.
If he’s staying he needs to knuckle down, apologise and start playing football again like we know he can.
Apparently Gnonto’s last club has an “extraordinary high” sell on clause. If we might be struggling to make even £10m profit, what’s the point of selling him at all ?
https://twitter.com/ellandback1/status/1689939131873329153?s=46&t=IReUWTp-qujoNkf_Wx4JpQ
I refer back to comment I made elsewhere:
Who has let public know about Gnonto situation, club or Gnonto (and he team).
Has Gnonto let press know he wants to leave, to maybe force a move?
He doesnt seem to have said anything publicly.
Have the club leaked it, in attempt to say he wants to go and se we need to sell him?
I dont know.
But if its true that he's been wanting move away for a while I dont understand why club has not therefore made best efforts to exit him and that does not mean playing him in first team ahead of someone else who needs to develop.
The only person I really trust here is Farke.
Club needed to have identified much earlier who is going, either through volition of Farke saying not needed.
Can't wait for this window to end so that we properly focus on getting on with things.
Worth reading this thread on gnonto agent
https://twitter.com/andrusso_16/status/1689637727963381761?s=46&t=QWljlkFPgzaK3bmQjCL0yA
Gnonto said if a move comes along he'll look at it, but he also said he's happy to stay!..
Said that just after relegation!..
Like been said on other threads about other players, we're not as big as some like to believe, so, any Premier league club is a pull to any player!..
I wonder what would happen if Archie was sought after, would he want out or would he be scared because members off his family would be against it?..
Just seen club statement.
We paid peanuts for him, he'll be win peanuts.
His agent tried same sh at Roma with another player.
In this case, I would let him rot in reserves until he make s a public apology for his behaviour.
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posted on 10/8/23
The only positive from all the disappointment in being gazumped by Bournemouth and these rats leaving a sinking ship, although I hope to God we're not literally a sinking ship, is we can all see now the club does have significant funds to play with and that must surely give Farke a very good foundation to build a strong promotion challenging team.... every cloud!
posted on 10/8/23
Seems like only yesterday we were talking about "mission accomplished" and Farke having brought about unity at the club. Team building doesn't happen overnight as was suggested. We have got quite a rocky road ahead with others to follow out the door still.
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 40 minutes ago
Told
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Makes sense now. Apologies Jonty
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Elsbels - Man of colour (U21658)
posted 1 minute ago
Seems like only yesterday we were talking about "mission accomplished" and Farke having brought about unity at the club. Team building doesn't happen overnight as was suggested. We have got quite a rocky road ahead with others to follow out the door still.
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That was me
I think he has.
We saw it on the pitch Sunday, saw it on the pitch yesterday.
Where do you not see the unity? Gnonto?
We've heard no reports from the club of any issues.
If Gnonto does indeed want out, then I'm not surprised, I dont see it affecting whet Farke is delivering, I'd expect any new manager to be dealing who some who want to leave.
posted on 10/8/23
Love the kid, think he has the potential to be a world talent.
get rid if he has refused to play
posted on 10/8/23
Love Gnonto but even I think he needs to be sold.
Yes, he’s forcing a move. Just hope 49ers aren’t the
Type to get mad or emotional over what is business.
Sell every player who doesn’t want to be here.
Go buy players that do.
posted on 10/8/23
And - I don’t want to see any of the clause loanees
Or the ones who want out, in a Leeds shirt again.
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 2 minutes ago
And - I don’t want to see any of the clause loanees
Or the ones who want out, in a Leeds shirt again.
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One wonders what happens if we get promoted and loanee wants to come back to get his original Prem wages cos it didn't work out elsewhere.
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Earl * * Not available in N.I. (U9333)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Remember the times when player loyalty counted for something.
Always sceptical now when seeing players kiss the badge
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Even Coops 'F@ck off' dressing room speech seems a bit hollow now, given that he wants to follow the Saudi dollar (or Riyal...).
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Earl * * Not available in N.I. (U9333)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Remember the times when player loyalty counted for something.
Always sceptical now when seeing players kiss the badge
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Even Coops 'F@ck off' dressing room speech seems a bit hollow now, given that he wants to follow the Saudi dollar (or Riyal...).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"he wants to follow"
Where has Cooper actually said this?
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Earl * * Not available in N.I. (U9333)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Remember the times when player loyalty counted for something.
Always sceptical now when seeing players kiss the badge
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even Coops 'F@ck off' dressing room speech seems a bit hollow now, given that he wants to follow the Saudi dollar (or Riyal...).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"he wants to follow"
Where has Cooper actually said this?
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Liam has more than paid his dues to Leeds. If he's got an offer, if, then I'd not begrudge him it. We'd all probably do the same.
I've not seen him say anything, just media stuff.
posted on 10/8/23
Feel really bad for Liam. 31, possible life changing
Contract, gets injured scoring a goal with no regard
To his own safety or consequences. Great bloke.
He’s a true pro. And great servant of the club.
I don’t agree with what the Saudis are doing. Or
Really anything that they do as an entity. However,
Can’t begrudged or judge Liam.
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 9 minutes ago
Feel really bad for Liam. 31, possible life changing
Contract, gets injured scoring a goal with no regard
To his own safety or consequences. Great bloke.
He’s a true pro. And great servant of the club.
I don’t agree with what the Saudis are doing. Or
Really anything that they do as an entity. However,
Can’t begrudged or judge Liam.
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I've lived and worked in Saudi. A place that really challenges your thoughts .... fascinating, abusive, scenic ... so many descriptions. I can't judge anyone for going to work there, I did. I certainly didn't agree with much of the "norms" there, but I did experience and meet loads of local Saudi's, many of which I found fantastic and friendly.
posted on 10/8/23
So, that 's Gnonto gone then
posted on 10/8/23
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 7 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پا... (U2805)
posted 42 minutes ago
£30m really? He’s had a few decent games but spends a lot of time whinging and moaning at opposition or ref. Happy to get anything between 15-20m for him
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I think we’ve turned that down already. Everton gone quiet now.
Difficult for the club as he’s an asset we can’t allow to sit and rot. Also if he’s refused to play then he won’t be welcomed by the fans - although Byram seems forgiven.
In todays market he’s got to be worth more than Rutter surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Got to agree, the only thing I would say is don't regard what we paid for Rutter as any indication of a value for a player!
We were royally shafted on that deal
posted on 10/8/23
Not really any way back for Gnonto unless he publicly apologises and sends 1 month wages to local charities Other than that he is dead to me and should never be selected again.
posted on 10/8/23
Do we know that he refused to play or did the club make him unavailable because a deal has been agreed?
If all of this is based on Farke’s comments it could be either or.
Farke could be frustrated that the club have agreed to sell him.
Either way he’s not going to play for Leeds again is he.
posted on 10/8/23
Out of all of this, one feature stands out for me.
Farke.
His management of the situation has been excellent so far. He has refused to get involved at an emotional level, either to castigate Gnonto, or complain about players crying off. He has kept it respectful and professional. Can you imagine how JM would have handled this?
One thing is for sure. We have a tough match on Saturday and we need Gnonto on board. It would be a bad look for him to pull this kind of stunt again.If anyone can get him back in, to toe the line, and to fulfil his professional duties, it's Farke. He will also have to settle down any animosities among his teammates. Everything we have seen so far from Farke suggests he knows the best way to approach this.
Whether Gnonto stays or goes, right now, he is contracted to play for us. So let's see him do his talking on the pitch at the weekend. A winning goal would be a nice way to make his apologies and move on.
posted on 11/8/23
Everton have been told by Leeds that Italian striker Wilfried Gnonto, 19, is not for sale and are now on the cusp of signing 19-year-old Portuguese forward Youssef Chermiti from Sporting Lisbon. (Liverpool Echo)
posted on 11/8/23
Evidently he did reply to a fan who questioned him on social media with the words “not true”. Then he deleted it for some reason.
If he’s staying he needs to knuckle down, apologise and start playing football again like we know he can.
posted on 11/8/23
Apparently Gnonto’s last club has an “extraordinary high” sell on clause. If we might be struggling to make even £10m profit, what’s the point of selling him at all ?
https://twitter.com/ellandback1/status/1689939131873329153?s=46&t=IReUWTp-qujoNkf_Wx4JpQ
posted on 11/8/23
I refer back to comment I made elsewhere:
Who has let public know about Gnonto situation, club or Gnonto (and he team).
Has Gnonto let press know he wants to leave, to maybe force a move?
He doesnt seem to have said anything publicly.
Have the club leaked it, in attempt to say he wants to go and se we need to sell him?
I dont know.
But if its true that he's been wanting move away for a while I dont understand why club has not therefore made best efforts to exit him and that does not mean playing him in first team ahead of someone else who needs to develop.
The only person I really trust here is Farke.
Club needed to have identified much earlier who is going, either through volition of Farke saying not needed.
Can't wait for this window to end so that we properly focus on getting on with things.
posted on 11/8/23
Worth reading this thread on gnonto agent
https://twitter.com/andrusso_16/status/1689637727963381761?s=46&t=QWljlkFPgzaK3bmQjCL0yA
posted on 11/8/23
Gnonto said if a move comes along he'll look at it, but he also said he's happy to stay!..
Said that just after relegation!..
Like been said on other threads about other players, we're not as big as some like to believe, so, any Premier league club is a pull to any player!..
I wonder what would happen if Archie was sought after, would he want out or would he be scared because members off his family would be against it?..
posted on 11/8/23
Just seen club statement.
We paid peanuts for him, he'll be win peanuts.
His agent tried same sh at Roma with another player.
In this case, I would let him rot in reserves until he make s a public apology for his behaviour.
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