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comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 18 seconds ago
If Ange wanted him signed there must be a reason for that. Better to have one that the manager wants than one who wasn't wanted i.e. Spence.
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I dont think he had a choice
It was an obligation to buy
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Ahh.... I wasn't sure which it was. I wonder why with such recent managerial upheaval and hiring managers with a history of short-term tenures, I don't get why we would do this ? Just creates such imbalanced squad. Add in "Club Signings" that managers don't want to play...... where's the joined-up thinking..... such a mess
As others have said Porro’s numbers at RWB are decent. They would only get better at RF I feel. He has more end product than Kulusevski. Who just dribbles into people. When he does dribble past, he then usually cuts back on to his predictable left foot. Usually loses any momentum he created and delivers an over cooked cross or a tame shot. He was an ok buy for the fee. But I think Levy just didn’t want to not sign at 20 odd million having initially shelled out 10 in a loan fee.
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
even for us, 3 goals and 3 assist in 13 starts from in a really poor side at the end of last season is impressive
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Granted... But playing in formation we no longer use... Not saying he's a bad player But If we were looking for a new RB today, we wouldn't have any interest in someone like him.
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perhaps we wouldn't have, but that doesn't mean he can't be of use. Ange is job is to make use of what he has and get the most out of these players just as much as it is bringing in new players. Porro has obvious limitations but obvious strengths too. there will be games where his creativity wins us points
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 33 seconds ago
As others have said Porro’s numbers at RWB are decent. They would only get better at RF I feel. He has more end product than Kulusevski. Who just dribbles into people. When he does dribble past, he then usually cuts back on to his predictable left foot. Usually loses any momentum he created and delivers an over cooked cross or a tame shot. He was an ok buy for the fee. But I think Levy just didn’t want to not sign at 20 odd million having initially shelled out 10 in a loan fee.
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Yeah thats fair... Just feels like such an odd signing... 40mln quid for a loan to buy, wanted by a manager with one foot out the door with no obvious position in anything other than a back 5
I would actually start him Vs United instead of Kulu. See what he can do while the window is still open and make a statement to Kulu that there's extra pressure on him, Son & Richie with Kane gone.
Our attacking play was so narrow on Sunday because both Kulu and Son ALWAYS cut inside into a congested defense. They never stretch the Back 4 meaning there's never any space for Richie to run into or an early cross from him to attack.... Thats why he was so static.
comment by Phenomenonecoglou (U20037)
posted 21 minutes ago
thought Porro was an obligation not an option
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Because we thought we would be playing 3 at the back for the next 4 years lol.
Porro will come good. He's definitely more of a RM/RW. Needs a RB behind him but if Navas can learn to be a RB so can Porro
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Phenomenonecoglou (U20037)
posted 21 minutes ago
thought Porro was an obligation not an option
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Because we thought we would be playing 3 at the back for the next 4 years lol.
Porro will come good. He's definitely more of a RM/RW. Needs a RB behind him but if Navas can learn to be a RB so can Porro
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????????? This makes no sense
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 18 seconds ago
If Ange wanted him signed there must be a reason for that. Better to have one that the manager wants than one who wasn't wanted i.e. Spence.
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I dont think he had a choice
It was an obligation to buy
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Fair enough. Ange has spoken out to say he likes Porro so maybe he would have gone with it anyway, who knows. The club just need to give Ange their backing and time and get what players he wants so we can avoid this issue going forward (if it is an issue).
Feels like both should end up in a different position to where they're currently being used - Porro on the wing and Kulusevski in the middle. Just on a very basic level that seems to be what their natural attributes would favour.
Managers have access to a heck of a lot more data than we do though. There's clearly a reason Ange isn't playing Porro as a winger and Kulusevski as an 8, and I'm inclined to trust him for the time being
Tbh when the front three start banging them all this chat will go away.
comment by AmAngeda Postecogginkiss (U11574)
posted 11 minutes ago
When
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Porro is one of the best Crossers in Europe. I'll stand by this. Need to know how to use him. I would definitely let him challenge Kulu for RW
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 21 seconds ago
Porro is one of the best Crossers in Europe. I'll stand by this. Need to know how to use him. I would definitely let him challenge Kulu for RW
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crosses too much though tbf
comment by Phenomenonecoglou (U20037)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 21 seconds ago
Porro is one of the best Crossers in Europe. I'll stand by this. Need to know how to use him. I would definitely let him challenge Kulu for RW
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crosses too much though tbf
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I think Ange wants this from wingers. Especially cut backs into dangerous areas. We need a striker that thrives on this
i think so too maybe just not as much from deep
This one's on Levy. Wouldn't cough up for a decent CB but spunkked a load on a WB we didn't need for a manager on the outs.
If I were Ange I'd keep playing him RB to make a point
comment by AmAngeda Postecogginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Feels like both should end up in a different position to where they're currently being used - Porro on the wing and Kulusevski in the middle. Just on a very basic level that seems to be what their natural attributes would favour.
Managers have access to a heck of a lot more data than we do though. There's clearly a reason Ange isn't playing Porro as a winger and Kulusevski as an 8, and I'm inclined to trust him for the time being
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Spot on with Kulu defo not a winger and never will be, Son either
comment by Dave&Danny COYH (U4428)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by AmAngeda Postecogginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Feels like both should end up in a different position to where they're currently being used - Porro on the wing and Kulusevski in the middle. Just on a very basic level that seems to be what their natural attributes would favour.
Managers have access to a heck of a lot more data than we do though. There's clearly a reason Ange isn't playing Porro as a winger and Kulusevski as an 8, and I'm inclined to trust him for the time being
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Spot on with Kulu defo not a winger and never will be, Son either
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Did you say that about Kulu after his first six months?
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny COYH (U4428)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by AmAngeda Postecogginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Feels like both should end up in a different position to where they're currently being used - Porro on the wing and Kulusevski in the middle. Just on a very basic level that seems to be what their natural attributes would favour.
Managers have access to a heck of a lot more data than we do though. There's clearly a reason Ange isn't playing Porro as a winger and Kulusevski as an 8, and I'm inclined to trust him for the time being
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Spot on with Kulu defo not a winger and never will be, Son either
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Did you say that about Kulu after his first six months?
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It probably wasn't clear then what he was about, now it is, no pace to get around defenders, so cuts inside onto left peg, would be better in a more central role
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I was hoping Ange would replace Kulusevski in the 2nd half of the Brentford game, his pace in front of Royal attacking their full back and would love to see it given a go.
Personally, I was hoping we didn't take up the option to buy Kulusevski, had a good half to the season when he joined but nothing since, no pace whatsoever and is never going to put the fear into an opposition defence imo.
comment by Salt Beef Boy (U2699)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
I was hoping Ange would replace Kulusevski in the 2nd half of the Brentford game, his pace in front of Royal attacking their full back and would love to see it given a go.
Personally, I was hoping we didn't take up the option to buy Kulusevski, had a good half to the season when he joined but nothing since, no pace whatsoever and is never going to put the fear into an opposition defence imo.
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Couldn’t agree more. In this league wingers need pace. Kulu started well but either got found out or was just lucky to begin with. Not only does he have no pace but because we all know he has to cut inside he always seems to receive the ball facing our goal and slows our attacks down. Spurs’ transfer record is just so abysmal, Levy haggles over a fiver for Raya but sanctions 30m for Kulu and 40m or whatever it was for Porro
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comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 18 seconds ago
If Ange wanted him signed there must be a reason for that. Better to have one that the manager wants than one who wasn't wanted i.e. Spence.
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I dont think he had a choice
It was an obligation to buy
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Ahh.... I wasn't sure which it was. I wonder why with such recent managerial upheaval and hiring managers with a history of short-term tenures, I don't get why we would do this ? Just creates such imbalanced squad. Add in "Club Signings" that managers don't want to play...... where's the joined-up thinking..... such a mess
posted on 15/8/23
As others have said Porro’s numbers at RWB are decent. They would only get better at RF I feel. He has more end product than Kulusevski. Who just dribbles into people. When he does dribble past, he then usually cuts back on to his predictable left foot. Usually loses any momentum he created and delivers an over cooked cross or a tame shot. He was an ok buy for the fee. But I think Levy just didn’t want to not sign at 20 odd million having initially shelled out 10 in a loan fee.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Christoglou (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
even for us, 3 goals and 3 assist in 13 starts from in a really poor side at the end of last season is impressive
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Granted... But playing in formation we no longer use... Not saying he's a bad player But If we were looking for a new RB today, we wouldn't have any interest in someone like him.
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perhaps we wouldn't have, but that doesn't mean he can't be of use. Ange is job is to make use of what he has and get the most out of these players just as much as it is bringing in new players. Porro has obvious limitations but obvious strengths too. there will be games where his creativity wins us points
posted on 15/8/23
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 33 seconds ago
As others have said Porro’s numbers at RWB are decent. They would only get better at RF I feel. He has more end product than Kulusevski. Who just dribbles into people. When he does dribble past, he then usually cuts back on to his predictable left foot. Usually loses any momentum he created and delivers an over cooked cross or a tame shot. He was an ok buy for the fee. But I think Levy just didn’t want to not sign at 20 odd million having initially shelled out 10 in a loan fee.
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Yeah thats fair... Just feels like such an odd signing... 40mln quid for a loan to buy, wanted by a manager with one foot out the door with no obvious position in anything other than a back 5
I would actually start him Vs United instead of Kulu. See what he can do while the window is still open and make a statement to Kulu that there's extra pressure on him, Son & Richie with Kane gone.
Our attacking play was so narrow on Sunday because both Kulu and Son ALWAYS cut inside into a congested defense. They never stretch the Back 4 meaning there's never any space for Richie to run into or an early cross from him to attack.... Thats why he was so static.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Phenomenonecoglou (U20037)
posted 21 minutes ago
thought Porro was an obligation not an option
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Because we thought we would be playing 3 at the back for the next 4 years lol.
Porro will come good. He's definitely more of a RM/RW. Needs a RB behind him but if Navas can learn to be a RB so can Porro
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Phenomenonecoglou (U20037)
posted 21 minutes ago
thought Porro was an obligation not an option
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Because we thought we would be playing 3 at the back for the next 4 years lol.
Porro will come good. He's definitely more of a RM/RW. Needs a RB behind him but if Navas can learn to be a RB so can Porro
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????????? This makes no sense
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 18 seconds ago
If Ange wanted him signed there must be a reason for that. Better to have one that the manager wants than one who wasn't wanted i.e. Spence.
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I dont think he had a choice
It was an obligation to buy
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Fair enough. Ange has spoken out to say he likes Porro so maybe he would have gone with it anyway, who knows. The club just need to give Ange their backing and time and get what players he wants so we can avoid this issue going forward (if it is an issue).
posted on 15/8/23
Feels like both should end up in a different position to where they're currently being used - Porro on the wing and Kulusevski in the middle. Just on a very basic level that seems to be what their natural attributes would favour.
Managers have access to a heck of a lot more data than we do though. There's clearly a reason Ange isn't playing Porro as a winger and Kulusevski as an 8, and I'm inclined to trust him for the time being
posted on 15/8/23
Tbh when the front three start banging them all this chat will go away.
posted on 15/8/23
When
posted on 15/8/23
comment by AmAngeda Postecogginkiss (U11574)
posted 11 minutes ago
When
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posted on 15/8/23
Porro is one of the best Crossers in Europe. I'll stand by this. Need to know how to use him. I would definitely let him challenge Kulu for RW
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 21 seconds ago
Porro is one of the best Crossers in Europe. I'll stand by this. Need to know how to use him. I would definitely let him challenge Kulu for RW
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crosses too much though tbf
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Phenomenonecoglou (U20037)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 21 seconds ago
Porro is one of the best Crossers in Europe. I'll stand by this. Need to know how to use him. I would definitely let him challenge Kulu for RW
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crosses too much though tbf
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I think Ange wants this from wingers. Especially cut backs into dangerous areas. We need a striker that thrives on this
posted on 15/8/23
i think so too maybe just not as much from deep
posted on 15/8/23
This one's on Levy. Wouldn't cough up for a decent CB but spunkked a load on a WB we didn't need for a manager on the outs.
If I were Ange I'd keep playing him RB to make a point
posted on 15/8/23
comment by AmAngeda Postecogginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Feels like both should end up in a different position to where they're currently being used - Porro on the wing and Kulusevski in the middle. Just on a very basic level that seems to be what their natural attributes would favour.
Managers have access to a heck of a lot more data than we do though. There's clearly a reason Ange isn't playing Porro as a winger and Kulusevski as an 8, and I'm inclined to trust him for the time being
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Spot on with Kulu defo not a winger and never will be, Son either
posted on 15/8/23
Both excellent players
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Dave&Danny COYH (U4428)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by AmAngeda Postecogginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Feels like both should end up in a different position to where they're currently being used - Porro on the wing and Kulusevski in the middle. Just on a very basic level that seems to be what their natural attributes would favour.
Managers have access to a heck of a lot more data than we do though. There's clearly a reason Ange isn't playing Porro as a winger and Kulusevski as an 8, and I'm inclined to trust him for the time being
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Spot on with Kulu defo not a winger and never will be, Son either
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Did you say that about Kulu after his first six months?
posted on 15/8/23
comment by LukaBrasi Ange-r management (U22178)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny COYH (U4428)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by AmAngeda Postecogginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Feels like both should end up in a different position to where they're currently being used - Porro on the wing and Kulusevski in the middle. Just on a very basic level that seems to be what their natural attributes would favour.
Managers have access to a heck of a lot more data than we do though. There's clearly a reason Ange isn't playing Porro as a winger and Kulusevski as an 8, and I'm inclined to trust him for the time being
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Spot on with Kulu defo not a winger and never will be, Son either
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Did you say that about Kulu after his first six months?
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It probably wasn't clear then what he was about, now it is, no pace to get around defenders, so cuts inside onto left peg, would be better in a more central role
posted on 15/8/23
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posted on 15/8/23
I was hoping Ange would replace Kulusevski in the 2nd half of the Brentford game, his pace in front of Royal attacking their full back and would love to see it given a go.
Personally, I was hoping we didn't take up the option to buy Kulusevski, had a good half to the season when he joined but nothing since, no pace whatsoever and is never going to put the fear into an opposition defence imo.
posted on 15/8/23
comment by Salt Beef Boy (U2699)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
I was hoping Ange would replace Kulusevski in the 2nd half of the Brentford game, his pace in front of Royal attacking their full back and would love to see it given a go.
Personally, I was hoping we didn't take up the option to buy Kulusevski, had a good half to the season when he joined but nothing since, no pace whatsoever and is never going to put the fear into an opposition defence imo.
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Couldn’t agree more. In this league wingers need pace. Kulu started well but either got found out or was just lucky to begin with. Not only does he have no pace but because we all know he has to cut inside he always seems to receive the ball facing our goal and slows our attacks down. Spurs’ transfer record is just so abysmal, Levy haggles over a fiver for Raya but sanctions 30m for Kulu and 40m or whatever it was for Porro
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