Yeah Havertz is the only bad buy for Arsenal this summer, not quite sure what Arteta is thinking.
Flop.
He’s a good player tbf.
Tall, athletic and whenever I saw him for Germany or Chelsea he always scored a goal.
Willian mark two,what is it with Arsenal buying Chelsea flops,mind baffling.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 4 minutes ago
He’s a good player tbf.
Tall, athletic and whenever I saw him for Germany or Chelsea he always scored a goal.
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How often did you watch Chelsea
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
He’s a good player tbf.
Tall, athletic and whenever I saw him for Germany or Chelsea he always scored a goal.
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You obviously didn’t watch him that much.
Just a strange signing.
Wasn't happy about his signing, but to be fair to him he has surprised me with his physicality. Runs all day, wins the ball back a lot, competes well in the air, presses well.
But that's not what we bought him for. Still has a way to go to justify the price tag.
Personally, I'd switch him to the right side of midfield (with odegaard switching to the left)
Kai Havertz has established his top flight career as a striker. For both club and country.
It's not his fault that we keep shoehorning him into deep-lying midfield positions he hasn't played in since he was 14 years old. You're going to have a very hard time building a midfielder out of a player who can't tackle to save his life.
I thought he showed some promise leading our line against City in the Community shield. Give him a run of games at the tip of our attack and then judge him after a few months.
Really odd signing for me! A tidy player but I couldn't see where he'd fit into our system. Obviously still early doors, and I'd love to be proved wrong, but a couple of games in and struggling to see what his role is in this team.
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kai Havertz has established his top flight career as a striker. For both club and country.
It's not his fault that we keep shoehorning him into deep-lying midfield positions he hasn't played in since he was 14 years old. You're going to have a very hard time building a midfielder out of a player who can't tackle to save his life.
I thought he showed some promise leading our line against City in the Community shield. Give him a run of games at the tip of our attack and then judge him after a few months.
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He's not playing in a deep lying midfielder role
And he wins the ball back fairly well
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kai Havertz has established his top flight career as a striker. For both club and country.
It's not his fault that we keep shoehorning him into deep-lying midfield positions he hasn't played in since he was 14 years old. You're going to have a very hard time building a midfielder out of a player who can't tackle to save his life.
I thought he showed some promise leading our line against City in the Community shield. Give him a run of games at the tip of our attack and then judge him after a few months.
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He's not playing in a deep lying midfielder role
And he wins the ball back fairly well
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We've been playing him in a 4-3-3, on the left side of a flat 3-man midfield. Positioning him behind a winger who generally couldn't be ārsed to track back and support his full back.
Said it at the time, the most Arsenal player ever. Technically very good, will compliment your side in a lot of ways - won’t get 10 league goals though.
Signing Raya was even weirder - it’s good to have strength in depth but in the GK department it seems like overkill
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kai Havertz has established his top flight career as a striker. For both club and country.
It's not his fault that we keep shoehorning him into deep-lying midfield positions he hasn't played in since he was 14 years old. You're going to have a very hard time building a midfielder out of a player who can't tackle to save his life.
I thought he showed some promise leading our line against City in the Community shield. Give him a run of games at the tip of our attack and then judge him after a few months.
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He's not playing in a deep lying midfielder role
And he wins the ball back fairly well
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We've been playing him in a 4-3-3, on the left side of a flat 3-man midfield. Positioning him behind a winger who generally couldn't be ārsed to track back and support his full back.
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That's not a deep lying midfielder role then
Raya signing was worth it alone just so Chelsea/Spurs don’t get him. Although I reckon he will have displaced Ramsdale before the end of the season. His distribution is on another level to any GK in England, even Ederson
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 13 minutes ago
Raya signing was worth it alone just so Chelsea/Spurs don’t get him. Although I reckon he will have displaced Ramsdale before the end of the season. His distribution is on another level to any GK in England, even Ederson
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Spurs had already moved on and bought Vicario as soon as we found out Raya’s price - no way Levy is going above £20m for a keeper.
Chelsea - wouldn’t have made a difference, they are just as likely to offer you £200m next summer for him spread over the remaining life cycle of the sun.
What’s weird about it is that Ramsdale will get displaced and lose value - why not sell him and replace with Raya. I just don’t understand why Arsenal have done business this way - best combo of keepers in the league but you can only ever play one, I just don’t get stock piling quality in this position, they very rarely get injured.
To provide competition for the present time. Whoever wins, gets to stay. Ramsdale won't lose value after one season.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Said it at the time, the most Arsenal player ever. Technically very good, will compliment your side in a lot of ways - won’t get 10 league goals though.
Signing Raya was even weirder - it’s good to have strength in depth but in the GK department it seems like overkill
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Biggest myth in football is havertz is even average technically let alone very good.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Said it at the time, the most Arsenal player ever. Technically very good, will compliment your side in a lot of ways - won’t get 10 league goals though.
Signing Raya was even weirder - it’s good to have strength in depth but in the GK department it seems like overkill
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Biggest myth in football is havertz is even average technically let alone very good.
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I agree with this. This fallacy annoyed me about Marcos Alonso so much too. People saying ‘he’s a good technically..but xyz’. What does it even mean at that point. Being tall, lanky, caucasian and left footed?
I mean alonso was good technically tbf, had the sweetest strike of a ball I’ve seen in any fullback in 30 years watching footy near enough (carlos and co).
Havertz though, awful lackadaisical first touch that pings off him more often than not.
Nah I never got it myself. Alonso equally had as clumsy touch as anyoneand nondescript skills in close control/ vision/passing and one season with us had the worst crossing success rate of any full back in Europe with significant minutes. It’s an ambiguous saying in itself ‘being good technically’ but hitting the ball hard, is that enough? Like Havertz I think it’s turned to a fallacy, one man said it and now it’s just accepted lol, (just my own perception)
Arteta wants him to be inverted
Just like Partey is an inverted right back
He is creating The Invertibles
Another performance today from Havertz today where he showed how ‘technically good’ he is
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posted on 23/8/23
Yeah Havertz is the only bad buy for Arsenal this summer, not quite sure what Arteta is thinking.
Flop.
posted on 23/8/23
Really weird signing.
posted on 23/8/23
Yeah...thanks anyway
posted on 23/8/23
He’s a good player tbf.
Tall, athletic and whenever I saw him for Germany or Chelsea he always scored a goal.
posted on 23/8/23
Willian mark two,what is it with Arsenal buying Chelsea flops,mind baffling.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 4 minutes ago
He’s a good player tbf.
Tall, athletic and whenever I saw him for Germany or Chelsea he always scored a goal.
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How often did you watch Chelsea
posted on 23/8/23
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
He’s a good player tbf.
Tall, athletic and whenever I saw him for Germany or Chelsea he always scored a goal.
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You obviously didn’t watch him that much.
Just a strange signing.
posted on 23/8/23
Wasn't happy about his signing, but to be fair to him he has surprised me with his physicality. Runs all day, wins the ball back a lot, competes well in the air, presses well.
But that's not what we bought him for. Still has a way to go to justify the price tag.
posted on 23/8/23
Personally, I'd switch him to the right side of midfield (with odegaard switching to the left)
posted on 23/8/23
Kai Havertz has established his top flight career as a striker. For both club and country.
It's not his fault that we keep shoehorning him into deep-lying midfield positions he hasn't played in since he was 14 years old. You're going to have a very hard time building a midfielder out of a player who can't tackle to save his life.
I thought he showed some promise leading our line against City in the Community shield. Give him a run of games at the tip of our attack and then judge him after a few months.
posted on 23/8/23
Really odd signing for me! A tidy player but I couldn't see where he'd fit into our system. Obviously still early doors, and I'd love to be proved wrong, but a couple of games in and struggling to see what his role is in this team.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kai Havertz has established his top flight career as a striker. For both club and country.
It's not his fault that we keep shoehorning him into deep-lying midfield positions he hasn't played in since he was 14 years old. You're going to have a very hard time building a midfielder out of a player who can't tackle to save his life.
I thought he showed some promise leading our line against City in the Community shield. Give him a run of games at the tip of our attack and then judge him after a few months.
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He's not playing in a deep lying midfielder role
And he wins the ball back fairly well
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kai Havertz has established his top flight career as a striker. For both club and country.
It's not his fault that we keep shoehorning him into deep-lying midfield positions he hasn't played in since he was 14 years old. You're going to have a very hard time building a midfielder out of a player who can't tackle to save his life.
I thought he showed some promise leading our line against City in the Community shield. Give him a run of games at the tip of our attack and then judge him after a few months.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's not playing in a deep lying midfielder role
And he wins the ball back fairly well
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've been playing him in a 4-3-3, on the left side of a flat 3-man midfield. Positioning him behind a winger who generally couldn't be ārsed to track back and support his full back.
posted on 23/8/23
Said it at the time, the most Arsenal player ever. Technically very good, will compliment your side in a lot of ways - won’t get 10 league goals though.
Signing Raya was even weirder - it’s good to have strength in depth but in the GK department it seems like overkill
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Rd. (U18361)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kai Havertz has established his top flight career as a striker. For both club and country.
It's not his fault that we keep shoehorning him into deep-lying midfield positions he hasn't played in since he was 14 years old. You're going to have a very hard time building a midfielder out of a player who can't tackle to save his life.
I thought he showed some promise leading our line against City in the Community shield. Give him a run of games at the tip of our attack and then judge him after a few months.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's not playing in a deep lying midfielder role
And he wins the ball back fairly well
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've been playing him in a 4-3-3, on the left side of a flat 3-man midfield. Positioning him behind a winger who generally couldn't be ārsed to track back and support his full back.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's not a deep lying midfielder role then
posted on 23/8/23
Raya signing was worth it alone just so Chelsea/Spurs don’t get him. Although I reckon he will have displaced Ramsdale before the end of the season. His distribution is on another level to any GK in England, even Ederson
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 13 minutes ago
Raya signing was worth it alone just so Chelsea/Spurs don’t get him. Although I reckon he will have displaced Ramsdale before the end of the season. His distribution is on another level to any GK in England, even Ederson
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Spurs had already moved on and bought Vicario as soon as we found out Raya’s price - no way Levy is going above £20m for a keeper.
Chelsea - wouldn’t have made a difference, they are just as likely to offer you £200m next summer for him spread over the remaining life cycle of the sun.
What’s weird about it is that Ramsdale will get displaced and lose value - why not sell him and replace with Raya. I just don’t understand why Arsenal have done business this way - best combo of keepers in the league but you can only ever play one, I just don’t get stock piling quality in this position, they very rarely get injured.
posted on 23/8/23
To provide competition for the present time. Whoever wins, gets to stay. Ramsdale won't lose value after one season.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Said it at the time, the most Arsenal player ever. Technically very good, will compliment your side in a lot of ways - won’t get 10 league goals though.
Signing Raya was even weirder - it’s good to have strength in depth but in the GK department it seems like overkill
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Biggest myth in football is havertz is even average technically let alone very good.
posted on 23/8/23
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Said it at the time, the most Arsenal player ever. Technically very good, will compliment your side in a lot of ways - won’t get 10 league goals though.
Signing Raya was even weirder - it’s good to have strength in depth but in the GK department it seems like overkill
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Biggest myth in football is havertz is even average technically let alone very good.
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I agree with this. This fallacy annoyed me about Marcos Alonso so much too. People saying ‘he’s a good technically..but xyz’. What does it even mean at that point. Being tall, lanky, caucasian and left footed?
posted on 23/8/23
I mean alonso was good technically tbf, had the sweetest strike of a ball I’ve seen in any fullback in 30 years watching footy near enough (carlos and co).
Havertz though, awful lackadaisical first touch that pings off him more often than not.
posted on 23/8/23
Nah I never got it myself. Alonso equally had as clumsy touch as anyoneand nondescript skills in close control/ vision/passing and one season with us had the worst crossing success rate of any full back in Europe with significant minutes. It’s an ambiguous saying in itself ‘being good technically’ but hitting the ball hard, is that enough? Like Havertz I think it’s turned to a fallacy, one man said it and now it’s just accepted lol, (just my own perception)
posted on 24/8/23
Arteta wants him to be inverted
Just like Partey is an inverted right back
He is creating The Invertibles
posted on 26/8/23
Another performance today from Havertz today where he showed how ‘technically good’ he is
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