Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
Been saying this for years
Enic and levy are frauds
The worse thing Levy did was feck us up when we were in good position to challenge. Zero signings windows should never be forgiven. Will take another 22 seasons to get there again.
Will show this to the likes of Sandy etc every time now
So since Levy came we're better in the league but worse in cups. I'm not sure how enlightening this is on either side of the argument really?
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
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Average league finish 8th is crap to where Spurs are now And three of those trophies were won in just four seasons out of the 22.
Also OP forgot to put Spurs reached a CL final for the only time in their history.
Daniel Levy has brought joy to many soccer fans in his tenure at Tottenham. Many including myself consider him to be a huge success and wish this to continue for many more years to come
99.9% of spurs fans would e taken that when Levy took over.
for balance you probably ought to throw in that we almost went bust in those 22 years pre levy......
Ridiculous thing about those stats is our average finish under Levy has been in the European positions but we've still won less in Europe than when our average finish was outside the European positions before he came.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
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Average league finish 8th is crap to where Spurs are now And three of those trophies were won in just four seasons out of the 22.
Also OP forgot to put Spurs reached a CL final for the only time in their history.
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when it’s for the good, it’s good. When it’s for the bad, it’s bad. CL finals, that is
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
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I bet you were there Sandy with your clappers and cuppa bovril
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
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Trying to tell this generation they've never had it so good with one league cup in 20 years while harking back to the older years when only you were alive and telling us how great it was then, doesn't really work does it?
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
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Trying to tell this generation they've never had it so good with one league cup in 20 years while harking back to the older years when only you were alive and telling us how great it was then, doesn't really work does it?
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This
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 2 minutes ago
Filtering Sandy has had zero affect on my experience on here as I still have to suffer the sight of his verbal bollix due to posters responding to him all the time
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
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Average league finish 8th is crap to where Spurs are now And three of those trophies were won in just four seasons out of the 22.
Also OP forgot to put Spurs reached a CL final for the only time in their history.
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I thought we bottled that Sandy? Interesting that you use the CL achievement to underpin a narrative about Levy's success but simply won't accept the same for Pochettino.
Mate, your lack of consistency is laughable.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
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Average league finish 8th is crap to where Spurs are now And three of those trophies were won in just four seasons out of the 22.
Also OP forgot to put Spurs reached a CL final for the only time in their history.
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I thought we bottled that Sandy? Interesting that you use the CL achievement to underpin a narrative about Levy's success but simply won't accept the same for Pochettino.
Mate, your lack of consistency is laughable.
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Sandy forgets a lot
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
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I bet you were there Sandy with your clappers and cuppa bovril
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We used to have rattles back in the day.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
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Trying to tell this generation they've never had it so good with one league cup in 20 years while harking back to the older years when only you were alive and telling us how great it was then, doesn't really work does it?
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Well this generation have not never had it so good. How many CL/European Cup campaigns did supporters get to see in the 22 years prior to ENIC?
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 2 minutes ago
Filtering Sandy has had zero affect on my experience on here as I still have to suffer the sight of his verbal bollix due to posters responding to him all the time
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Serves the pr***ck right.
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trying to tell this generation they've never had it so good with one league cup in 20 years while harking back to the older years when only you were alive and telling us how great it was then, doesn't really work does it?
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Well this generation have not never had it so good. How many CL/European Cup campaigns did supporters get to see in the 22 years prior to ENIC?
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And what have we won under Levy/ENIC Sandy? It’s officially our least successful era in terms of trophies.
These stats, while interesting, only reinforce the rather idiotic polarising of views that most fans are displaying.
Under ENIC/Levy we have a dreadful trophy record, a source of large embarrassment and shame. But we have made numerous finals in this time and managed only 1 win, as well as quite a lot of semi finals.
It is therefore wrong to lay the entire blame with ownership if the team/squad is good enough to get to SFs finals and the top 4, it should be good enough to win. My worry would be if we were nowhere near these trophies, but i have been to a UCL final to watch Spurs so i know as well as any how close and how disappointing it is.
Yes ENIC could have put us in a better position to compete in these latter stages but the fact we have made those latter stages undermines anyone who views their reign as utter neglect and negligence.
The Pre-ENIC era is really a game of 2 halves, broadly 80s/early 90s, and then 90s early 00s. In the latter we were shocking, truly mediocre, winning 1 pot but barely competing at any level...and that is the period and and the crap club that ENIC took over.
Most of those trophies happened from 81 - 91, under a very different regime and in a very different time. The PL changed the landscape and then the likes of Roman changed it again and it is now harder than ever to challenge (just look at who has won the league cup in the last 10 years).
In many respects THFC are in a much much better position than pre-ENIC. A regular trophy would have made a massive difference and the reasons for this failure are not all ENICs, the ownership is a factor but they are also a factor in our much elevated status since their arrival.
Anyone who says they would be fine with 8th and a trophy every 5 years is a liar!
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
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Average league finish 8th is crap to where Spurs are now And three of those trophies were won in just four seasons out of the 22.
Also OP forgot to put Spurs reached a CL final for the only time in their history.
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I thought we bottled that Sandy? Interesting that you use the CL achievement to underpin a narrative about Levy's success but simply won't accept the same for Pochettino.
Mate, your lack of consistency is laughable.
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We did bottle it, but still reached a CL final under ENIC. How many CL finals pre ENIC? Poch was employed by ENIC, so they obviously take the plaudits.
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posted on 31/8/23
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
posted on 31/8/23
Been saying this for years
Enic and levy are frauds
posted on 31/8/23
The worse thing Levy did was feck us up when we were in good position to challenge. Zero signings windows should never be forgiven. Will take another 22 seasons to get there again.
posted on 31/8/23
Will show this to the likes of Sandy etc every time now
posted on 31/8/23
So since Levy came we're better in the league but worse in cups. I'm not sure how enlightening this is on either side of the argument really?
posted on 31/8/23
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Average league finish 8th is crap to where Spurs are now And three of those trophies were won in just four seasons out of the 22.
Also OP forgot to put Spurs reached a CL final for the only time in their history.
posted on 31/8/23
Daniel Levy has brought joy to many soccer fans in his tenure at Tottenham. Many including myself consider him to be a huge success and wish this to continue for many more years to come
posted on 31/8/23
99.9% of spurs fans would e taken that when Levy took over.
posted on 31/8/23
for balance you probably ought to throw in that we almost went bust in those 22 years pre levy......
posted on 31/8/23
Ridiculous thing about those stats is our average finish under Levy has been in the European positions but we've still won less in Europe than when our average finish was outside the European positions before he came.
posted on 31/8/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
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Average league finish 8th is crap to where Spurs are now And three of those trophies were won in just four seasons out of the 22.
Also OP forgot to put Spurs reached a CL final for the only time in their history.
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when it’s for the good, it’s good. When it’s for the bad, it’s bad. CL finals, that is
posted on 31/8/23
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
posted on 31/8/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
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I bet you were there Sandy with your clappers and cuppa bovril
posted on 31/8/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
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Trying to tell this generation they've never had it so good with one league cup in 20 years while harking back to the older years when only you were alive and telling us how great it was then, doesn't really work does it?
posted on 31/8/23
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posted on 31/8/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
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Trying to tell this generation they've never had it so good with one league cup in 20 years while harking back to the older years when only you were alive and telling us how great it was then, doesn't really work does it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This
posted on 31/8/23
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 2 minutes ago
Filtering Sandy has had zero affect on my experience on here as I still have to suffer the sight of his verbal bollix due to posters responding to him all the time
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posted on 31/8/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Average league finish 8th is crap to where Spurs are now And three of those trophies were won in just four seasons out of the 22.
Also OP forgot to put Spurs reached a CL final for the only time in their history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought we bottled that Sandy? Interesting that you use the CL achievement to underpin a narrative about Levy's success but simply won't accept the same for Pochettino.
Mate, your lack of consistency is laughable.
posted on 31/8/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Average league finish 8th is crap to where Spurs are now And three of those trophies were won in just four seasons out of the 22.
Also OP forgot to put Spurs reached a CL final for the only time in their history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought we bottled that Sandy? Interesting that you use the CL achievement to underpin a narrative about Levy's success but simply won't accept the same for Pochettino.
Mate, your lack of consistency is laughable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy forgets a lot
posted on 31/8/23
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
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I bet you were there Sandy with your clappers and cuppa bovril
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We used to have rattles back in the day.
posted on 31/8/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trying to tell this generation they've never had it so good with one league cup in 20 years while harking back to the older years when only you were alive and telling us how great it was then, doesn't really work does it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well this generation have not never had it so good. How many CL/European Cup campaigns did supporters get to see in the 22 years prior to ENIC?
posted on 31/8/23
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Number 8ecoglou (U9729)
posted 2 minutes ago
Filtering Sandy has had zero affect on my experience on here as I still have to suffer the sight of his verbal bollix due to posters responding to him all the time
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Serves the pr***ck right.
posted on 31/8/23
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
Another couple of years and you could have thrown in a relegation pre Levy.
You lot have never had it so good.
Best period to be a Spurs supporter was late 50s, early 60s.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trying to tell this generation they've never had it so good with one league cup in 20 years while harking back to the older years when only you were alive and telling us how great it was then, doesn't really work does it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well this generation have not never had it so good. How many CL/European Cup campaigns did supporters get to see in the 22 years prior to ENIC?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And what have we won under Levy/ENIC Sandy? It’s officially our least successful era in terms of trophies.
posted on 31/8/23
These stats, while interesting, only reinforce the rather idiotic polarising of views that most fans are displaying.
Under ENIC/Levy we have a dreadful trophy record, a source of large embarrassment and shame. But we have made numerous finals in this time and managed only 1 win, as well as quite a lot of semi finals.
It is therefore wrong to lay the entire blame with ownership if the team/squad is good enough to get to SFs finals and the top 4, it should be good enough to win. My worry would be if we were nowhere near these trophies, but i have been to a UCL final to watch Spurs so i know as well as any how close and how disappointing it is.
Yes ENIC could have put us in a better position to compete in these latter stages but the fact we have made those latter stages undermines anyone who views their reign as utter neglect and negligence.
The Pre-ENIC era is really a game of 2 halves, broadly 80s/early 90s, and then 90s early 00s. In the latter we were shocking, truly mediocre, winning 1 pot but barely competing at any level...and that is the period and and the crap club that ENIC took over.
Most of those trophies happened from 81 - 91, under a very different regime and in a very different time. The PL changed the landscape and then the likes of Roman changed it again and it is now harder than ever to challenge (just look at who has won the league cup in the last 10 years).
In many respects THFC are in a much much better position than pre-ENIC. A regular trophy would have made a massive difference and the reasons for this failure are not all ENICs, the ownership is a factor but they are also a factor in our much elevated status since their arrival.
Anyone who says they would be fine with 8th and a trophy every 5 years is a liar!
posted on 31/8/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you. Where are the we were rubbish before Levy took over now?
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Average league finish 8th is crap to where Spurs are now And three of those trophies were won in just four seasons out of the 22.
Also OP forgot to put Spurs reached a CL final for the only time in their history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought we bottled that Sandy? Interesting that you use the CL achievement to underpin a narrative about Levy's success but simply won't accept the same for Pochettino.
Mate, your lack of consistency is laughable.
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We did bottle it, but still reached a CL final under ENIC. How many CL finals pre ENIC? Poch was employed by ENIC, so they obviously take the plaudits.
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